I bought a new thicker balaclava and it made my helmet fit real tight. Just something to think about. Maybe try one on with whatever you will be wearing underneath.
Fit is king! I went to pick up my new Shoei RF-1400 yesterday. I had to order the color I wanted (Balast Grey) in Large. The Large was somewhat too loose and we explored ordering thicker liners, however they had a Medium helmet in stock that I was able to try on and it was a much better fit. So I returned the Large and ordered the Medium in the color I wanted. It’s best to wait for the right fit, then to walk out of the store with an ill fitting lid that you can’t return later. Trust me…. Been there, done that!
Hey I need help lol just bought my first helmet. Seems snug but offer 15 minutes I can feel it losing slightly . One question is the chin / jaw line . The helmet i have seems to be in line with me chin so when I relax my jaw my chin is lower than the helmet : I'm a 57cm head and the helmet is 57/58
Thanks for the Helmet fitting just spent £500 on an Arai helmet and with the help of the video made sure I have the right fit. Cheers mate keep up the good work.
Ordered my first helmet online, and I guess I was lucky. Even though I was just on the edge measurements between two sizes, it seems I ended up with a good fit. Unfortunately, I cannot get other padding if I wanted to any easy way as it is from halfway across the world (Canada to Greece), and I ended up paying almost the same for the customs handling as for the helmet because FedEx uses some insane scam company that takes out made up fees to do their customs handling in Greece.. and, the brand is not sold here in Greece.
I would kill for someone to actually help me with fitment like this. I can’t get a helmet to fit me to save my life and all the local stores are useless.
This is great. I’m also a large in most Shoei and they’re pretty snug on me but never painful. In my Arai XD4 or tour x4 I had to size up to a n x-large and get one size thicker cheek pads. I only just noticed that in the US we get 15mm cheek pads as standard. I feel like I can go even thicker cheek pads like the 25mm you have. Arai really should have a trade in program for liners to allow us to get the perfect fit. Great video. Thank you.
Thanks, one thing we didn't mention is that Arai make helmets for different head shapes for different markets. The domestic and Asian helmets tend to be rounder, Europeans more oval and North American a touch more oval.
I tried multiple helmets and those fit perfectly, but when i press the the helmet toward my face, it touches my chin and I think it is not safe as it is seems it will pass the impact to my chin if I fall toward my face. I watched multiple video and no one talk about it. Should i go for a bigger shell or it’s ok?
Just received my new XD4 and found the information quite helpful. I measure 60.5 cm and ordered the XL which fit well at the forehead but a little loose at the cheek pads. This video helped me fine tune the fit. Thank you for an excellent fitment video.
That was the best, most comprehensive helmet video I've seen. Well done. I've made several expensive mistakes with buying a size too small then hoping it would break in. It never did. I had measured my head when I was younger at 58cm but never measured it again. After a few wrong choices and horrible forehead headaches, I realised I should measure my head again. I was getting 61.5cm which shocked me. So I needed an XL in most brands. I chose Bell for their great Sharp results (and other test results) and my Bell Race Star fits like a dream. I tried some of the tests suggested in this video and it fits well. I'd like the option of different size liners but I'm not sure if Bell offers them. Anybody know?
Thank you. Same here, getting the help of an expert was brilliant. Bell do offer replacement liners and cheek pads, but it doesnt look like they are available in different thicknesses
@@bobbyb7127 each manufacturer will give a letter size S, M, L, etc and a range of actual sizes in centimeter and inches. I think you can count on that.
Very well put together & especially informative video, I also bought some KEIS 601 gloves because of your very well informed video cheers Fella keep up the good work!! 👌🏻👍🏻
Cheers guys. The thing I dont like about Arais fitting service is that I constantly get refused the ability to swap out cheek pads and caps for something I know fits me, for example I know an M RX7V fits me nice for a few weeks until the pads break in, then it becomes too loose but an S wont fit me- but the shops ive spoken to all tell me I have to buy the cheek pads separately, incurring more cost to me, and leaving me with brand new cheek pads I have to eBay at a competitive used price to get rid of, then have to ship and faff etc. Alternatively the Shoei fitting comes with the ability to change interior for free.
I like the helmet at the end lol ...... I have an Arai, love it. Same colour modern grey, but trying to locate a code or ral/pantone or whatever is impossible. Bet Joe knows
@@mancavemoto Thanks matey, i’m currently In Northwich, UK (next to Chester)- We have a J&S here ar oakmere that have swore blond nownits not oart of the service and only do so with Shoei lids. Also tried Places online like Helmet city and Infinity (possible SBS, I cant fully recall now) online and had the same last year.
@@mancavemoto I spoke to Arai uk and they said arai japan will not give them that info. A car paint shop should be able to scan/match near enough. I'm in Lincolnshire (grantham) for the last 15 years but originally from North London.
This is the best fitment guide on UA-cam. My head is exactly 57 cm in circumference. I’ve measured in different ways, different parts, loosely, tightly, and I always get either 57 cm or darn close to it. This puts me in a medium shell in nearly every manufacturer. However, in the few helmets I’ve used, I’ve had differing results. Biltwell’s medium just chokes my head out, but their large is just too large. I think it’s because the Biltwell Gringo is just so stiff and has very little padding. It was like I was wearing just the eps shell and nothing else. So now I’ve just purchased a medium Shoei RF1400 and it feels quite nice, but spending that much on my helmet has me worried that I didn’t buy the right size. I’ve tried on many different ones now and even a large in the Shoeis but it’s the same thing, the large just seems too big, I’m just terrified that I’m going to run into the same problem with the medium Shoei I just bought that I had with the Biltwell. Ugh. I think maybe I need to get some thinner cheek pads or something.
@@basantalamichhane4804 I ended up staying with the medium in my shoei. It feels a bit snug if I don’t wear it for awhile but it eventually loosens up and fits quite well. I dread having to buy another helmet eventually lol.
They say most are wearing 1 or 2 sizes too big....like a really snug fit on almost everything cept fir street jeans.....learned from MX that helmet should be as tight as you can tolerate
Hello, The problem to go to a dealer is there is no dealer heaving Arai xd4 helmet at ALL. I live in France near STRASBOURG and there's lot of motorcycle/helmet dealer, perhaps 20 or 30, 50km around. Only one can sold Arai helmet. I have waiting 1 year to this Arai "official" dealer to test one and buy it more then on internet, i play the game. After one year he has one, far not my size of course. There is a business problem. Dealer sell 600 or 700e helmet like 1e pins, no measurement nothing to adapt, it's ridiculous. Arai have to select one good dealer every 100km and be sure they have helmet to try, and don't sell to internet website then they dealer can live. 2 weeks ago i have buy a Klim Krios pro on internet, approximatively loto bingo size. I've take the Klim because my Arai dealer pissed me off. Some people would buy Arai and just can't because there is NO dealer. This is the claim of a simple and honest person. Thank's to Joe for explanation.
I have a long oval head. I had to travel over 300 miles to find a dealer that stocked the sizes that I was interested in (L and XL). I had measured my head and got 62cm which corresponds to an XL. Like you, I must not have measured the largest part of my head because it created a pressure point on my forehead. The XXL (63-64cm) did not, so I wore it for an hour. After purchasing the helmet, I drove the 300 miles back home. I felt like the cheek pads were a little bit loose and wanted to try the next size thicker pads which were out of stock. I have the next two sizes thicker pads and the 10mm liner on order and will try them to see if they provide a better fit. If they do, I will keep them. If they don’t, I will return them. Arai always suggests that riders go down a size or two when properly fitted. I guess that we don’t go for the roomy fit like most people do. It definitely fits me better than my Neotec does. It will take some time to get used to a full face helmet again.
How can I find a Helmet for me?! My crown head is 51 cm... I want a full helmet like ILM double, its not that big on the front. S will be too big, XS is big too right?
Very Very informative video. I learned more in this video than I care to admit. I first and foremost found out I don't know how to use my tape measure and I sew, 😂😂. I am a large not a medium like I thought. Best video on helmet sizing I have found. Thank you
Very interesting I always buy Shoei because a large fits perfectly however I did buy a Arai in large and gave up in the end obviously after watching this I needed a XL 😊
I’m not sure what he means when conducting the crown fitment test. He notes that the first helmet he can’t get his finger under the “skull cap” and can just barely fit a finger under the “eps liner”. What do they mean by “skull cap” here?
Here's my problem: my head measures 58.5cm, but the helmet I bought lists M as 57-58cm. For L it lists 59-60. I bought the M, couldn't get it on my head. Bought the L, can get it on, but seems like it might be too big, only side to side. Crown is perfect. Temples perfect. In this case... should I buy thicker cheek pads for the L, or get the M and then get thinner cheek pads? I guess my question is: what if the crown is tight (can't fit fingers up there) but there is still a tiny bit of movement L to R?
If it fits well everywhere else I would suggest going to a premium Arai dealer and have them add some extra foam inserts to the side. sounds like if you went for the medium it would be too tight on the crown or forehead?
Sir how tight should the helmet strap be(quick release/eu rachet)? It seems uncomfortable when I tie it snugly & when I loose it a little, the strap comes out(with struggle) over the chin, when I try removing it out with hands.
It should be tight enough to hold the helmet securely on your head. if you can pull the strap over your chin, I would suggest that the helmet itself is too big
Thank you 🙏 I do have question tho by measures I’m medium but crown fit uncomfortable large on the other hand is good feel. How often riders go one size up ? Or crown pudding can be adjusted as well ?
Great video! 👏🏻👌🏻 I have the EXACT same situation, same measurement and I’m between the two sizes(both with the 20mm pads). Interestingly , I have an old Tour X2 in large, which fits me great, with the exception that mouth and nose almost touch the chin guard. This is even worse on the X4, it seems they changed the overall fit a little bit(thicker protection on the back of the head maybe). When I put on the XL X4, I have a little wiggle and jt feels as if the helmet would come down a little bit too much. I hope I can get this sorted out because i really like the Arai, especially its great, wide view and comfort.
I think its a helmet with a bit more of a rounder headform? I wear the Quantic and Profile V in Large (with the thinner pad) and they are excellent. Not all Arais fit the same head shape
Very helpful video - and I've been fitted by Arai reps at shows in the past here in the U.S. They didn't check the forehead or temples like he did. Thank you Tony.
I have a RX7v. My head size measurement in 57in which is a medium for Arai. But it’s weird I find a small fits me better which is 56 inches. Weird but true.
Yes, it can all depend on the head form of the helmet. Contrary to popular belief not all Arai helmets are the same! A large in the Quantic and Profile V are perfect for me, but not in the Tour X4, RX7v or Rapide. If you buy one from Japan they are different again
I measured my head three times to make sure I got the right fit. Then after the sizing, you need to consider head shape as well. Round Oval, Intermediate Oval, and Long Oval. The majority of people are Intermediate Oval, but the other shapes are something to consider. Just from watching this video, I would guess that your head shape is long oval. When you tried a helmet according to your head size, and the front and back was to tight in a Intermediate Oval helmet, it would indicate that you have a long oval head shape.
Yep, its handy to get someone else to do it too. We didnt touch on head shape because as you say the majority of people are intermediate oval. Going on to cover that subject would have made the video too long. My head shape is intermediate oval. The first helmet I tried was the size based on the measurement that I took, making the point that you have to get that bit right. Arai Size Large is 59-60cm, so although I could get it on my head it was no good. Joe measured my head at 61cm, hence the jump up to XL with some additional padding. The ability for Arai to tailor the interiors in many ways means that they can accomodate many head shapes as long as hey are not too extreme.
Should all helmet dealers that stock arai's be able to help with this? Or how do I find the closest one to me? I'm keen to buy an arai next because of their dedication to safety but feel like I could do with some help adjusting the cheek pads. Two dealers I've been to have been a bit dismissive saying that maybe I should just go for another brand. Any help is much appreciated!!
All authorised Arai dealers should be able to offer a proper fitting. There is a dealer locator on the whyarai.co.uk website. Those dealers don’t sound great, and should be doing a bit of work if selling a premium helmet!
Because as I mentioned at 02:28 when I measured my head myself I measured at under 60cm, but it was when I had it measured properly for the video, Joe made a more accurate measurement.
Good job, it's really hard to find this information, thanks for this, I measured my cranium at a 60 I thought the same as you the forehead area , I will do the helmet push finger space check. Sometimes I think I need a shoe horn to get it on but when it is on it feels great. I know I have to grab the straps and spread it open some, I guess that's normal? The biggest thing I like is the visual field is really good.
I don’t have a helmet friendly head, an XL was too small and the XXL was just a tad loose, but okay. I took pickup bed tape, the real dense type, and cut three lengths to wrap around the sides and back… self adhesive, so I stacked them, each one onto the helmet, under the liner. Plus I cut a sheet of thin, heavy duty shipping liner, to fit right into the bowl right along the original padding. I have never had a better fitting helmet!
I'm not sure how that is going to effect the protective nature of the helmet. The eps lining is designed to absorb the impact and slow down the deceleration of the skull. Introducing another material could well interfere with that process.
Thanks for this! I ordered a Medium Ruroc since I barely measured for a large at 22.875 and it is extremely painful to wear and afterwards my head still hurts! I am sending it back for a Large tomorrow. Good to know it shouldn't be that tight.
Just watched the Helmet fit video, found it extremely informative and enlightening am in the process of buying a new helmet and I now feel I have the right information to get the right fit and it is great to hear from an expert on the dynamics of helmet fitting. I would like to think now when I buy a helmet for £500 I know what the bloody hell I am talking about. Really enjoy the channel keep up the good work. Robin White
How do I know that when I go into a shop they will make sure I have the correct size helmet? Your making a video with an expert , but the shop might just want to get a sale. I’m not sure I trust any shop employee to help me correctly?
That very much depends on what shop you go to. Its worth checking out reviews and talking to other riders for recommendations. I know that Arai make sure they they train staff in their stockists, i'm guessing the other big brands do the same? Hopefully this video has given you some ideas of what they should be checking
Helmet colour is also a big factor, with a white helmet you are less likely to be in an accident in the first place, thanks for this, ,my head is the same size as yours, so I'm going to try an Arai x tour in xl with the larger linings.
I always say buying a helmet is like buying shoes , you have to try it on , take the time to go to dealer , line a few up that you like and within your budget and try them on , do the little checks as outlined in the video and see what fits the best ( there's a few new checks that I will be doing now because of this video ) Great idea getting an expert in to show us all how to do this , and not trying to do it yourself and maybe not outlining these checks and ( with the best intentions ) misguiding people to a degree without even realising it , Personally I would not recommend buying a helmet online , always try them on in a shop when ever possible .
Very good. I have just bought a new Shoei J Cruise 2 helmet and the guy at the shop did the same as in the video, result is that it's a very good fit for my head.
In reality any authorised Arai dealer should be able to take a customer through this process. But it seems that may not always be the case based on some comments i've seen
i ride with an Arai medium. It feels great but around freeway speeds it was pushing off my head. got the thickest cheek pads and now its better... but i still feel like its shifting around my head on the highway. The small feels way too tight tho. Should I swap out the inner liner on a small to a thinner crown pad size or swap out to a larger crown size in the medium? I feel like a gumball head in my medium. I measure between 56.5-57cm.
I use the tour x4 for my daily commute i find it fogs really bad and I did have a fog insert but doesn't fit very well causing air bubbles very terrible. I still use it and the fit is a little odd compared to my arai rx7v the tour xd4 seems very big and doesn't seem to fit on my head in the position that it should
The visor has quite a sharp curve which makes it tricky for the pinlock to seat properly. The tour x4 and RX7v have slightly different head forms. Despite what people believe Arai helmets differ from model to model,
@@mancavemoto that explains why the fog insert doesn’t work and also why the helmet itself doesn't fit very well. Might go back to old helmet as it also has a chin curtain. I am wearing the wrong helmet for the type of motorcycles I'm riding. I ride a sport tourer and a suzuki gladius. I like the look of the tour xd4 because it looks mature especially in the modern grey but just have issue with the fitment, fog and lot's of wind getting up the helmet or when doing blind spot checks the peak because a huge problem.
Apart from an Arai, the Condor from 2005, the best-fitting helmet I have had has been a Caberg Stunt. Caberg's open face helmet fits me just as well, too. Excellent video. And Joe seems a very nice bloke.
Thanks Tony Shoei XL ryd fits me spot on, similarly caberg XL fits. Just can't get on with an agv system XL, catches me on the chin. Had to go for a XXL in an LS2.
Tony, any thoughts on buying (in US) a new but heavily discounted Arai Vector 2 in 2022? Probably a five year old helmet sitting on the shelf, but reduced price makes thus Arai affordable. Better to go new?
This may be not the subject of this vodeo, but it's worth mentioning the new scam in helmet business : DoubleD-rings. They may be slightly safer at extreme speeds, but they cost almost NOTHING to produce, while the price customers pay is same as for propper Quick release - that is far more user friendly and complicated, as a system.
New Scam? Double d ring fastenings have been around for donkeys years. They are simple and more importantly efficient, when a solution works so well theres no need to change it. i've found that quick release fastenings are often much more bulky
@@mancavemoto U do realize that 2 simle pieces of metal MUST be much cheaper to produce, than a reliable quick release ❓- Im pissed by the fact, that this choice is rapidly taken away, and only the CHEAPEST for the helmet makers, remains, while the users must put out, at least same 💰💰💰
Of course it’s cheaper, but probably no by much in the whole scheme of things. Manufacturers are not charging you more to fit a double d ring. I can understand if you prefer a quick release, but I don’t understand the argument around cost. Some people won’t buy a helmet if it HAS a quick release strap
There usually is an additional cost for different cheek pads etc, it really just depends on what you need. Most Arai dealers will have a little kit of 'extras' they can use for a custom fit that usually doesn't incur a charge (at least we wouldn't charge for that) but once you get into cheek pads etc they're extra.. Arai are the best for this type of thing, Bell, OMP, Sparco etc don't offer it to their dealers. It's the most important piece of kit so you need to ensure it fits properly and authorised dealer is best placed to do that for you
Now that's how you do a helmet fitment video, clear and very easy to understand!! 👍
Thanks! 👍
One of the best helmet fitment videos on UA-cam!
Appreciate that
Of all of the helmet fittings I have seen, Wish Motorcycle shops would have a lounge for coffee and watch such a video.
I bought a new thicker balaclava and it made my helmet fit real tight. Just something to think about. Maybe try one on with whatever you will be wearing underneath.
smart move to bring fitter and explain what and why to do when purchasing new lid, excellent, cheers V!
Fit is king! I went to pick up my new Shoei RF-1400 yesterday. I had to order the color I wanted (Balast Grey) in Large. The Large was somewhat too loose and we explored ordering thicker liners, however they had a Medium helmet in stock that I was able to try on and it was a much better fit. So I returned the Large and ordered the Medium in the color I wanted. It’s best to wait for the right fit, then to walk out of the store with an ill fitting lid that you can’t return later. Trust me…. Been there, done that!
Man, this guy knows his stuff. I've seen bunch of videos on helmet sizings and fitings, this one is one of the best, if not the best! Cheers guys!
Glad to help!
Anyone here wear corrective lenses? How do you wear a full face with spectacles??
Some brands are labeled as compatible with glasses
I’m so pleased Tony that you have taken the time to put this together with an expert helping to further explain this. Thank you. 👍😎🇦🇺
Glad you enjoyed it
Looks like I've been buying the wrong helmet size my whole biking life and I've literally just ordered another before watching this!!
Great video Tony. I often have simular problems and end up with about 3-4 helmets before I get one that fits, and then still go back to my old Shoei.
Hey I need help lol just bought my first helmet. Seems snug but offer 15 minutes I can feel it losing slightly . One question is the chin / jaw line . The helmet i have seems to be in line with me chin so when I relax my jaw my chin is lower than the helmet : I'm a 57cm head and the helmet is 57/58
Thanks for the Helmet fitting just spent £500 on an Arai helmet and with the help of the video made sure I have the right fit. Cheers mate keep up the good work.
Ordered my first helmet online, and I guess I was lucky. Even though I was just on the edge measurements between two sizes, it seems I ended up with a good fit. Unfortunately, I cannot get other padding if I wanted to any easy way as it is from halfway across the world (Canada to Greece), and I ended up paying almost the same for the customs handling as for the helmet because FedEx uses some insane scam company that takes out made up fees to do their customs handling in Greece.. and, the brand is not sold here in Greece.
I would kill for someone to actually help me with fitment like this. I can’t get a helmet to fit me to save my life and all the local stores are useless.
Now this is what I call a detailed fitment review. I love Arai and wouldn't wear any other lid
This is great. I’m also a large in most Shoei and they’re pretty snug on me but never painful. In my Arai XD4 or tour x4 I had to size up to a n x-large and get one size thicker cheek pads. I only just noticed that in the US we get 15mm cheek pads as standard. I feel like I can go even thicker cheek pads like the 25mm you have. Arai really should have a trade in program for liners to allow us to get the perfect fit. Great video. Thank you.
Thanks, one thing we didn't mention is that Arai make helmets for different head shapes for different markets. The domestic and Asian helmets tend to be rounder, Europeans more oval and North American a touch more oval.
What a great video. Some really interesting points raised on what to check for when buying a new lid. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I tried multiple helmets and those fit perfectly, but when i press the the helmet toward my face, it touches my chin and I think it is not safe as it is seems it will pass the impact to my chin if I fall toward my face. I watched multiple video and no one talk about it. Should i go for a bigger shell or it’s ok?
It sounds like the helmet may the correct size for the skull, but not enough room in the chin
Great great great, thx Bob Belgium
Lool store employees dont such extensive tests.
Just received my new XD4 and found the information quite helpful. I measure 60.5 cm and ordered the XL which fit well at the forehead but a little loose at the cheek pads. This video helped me fine tune the fit. Thank you for an excellent fitment video.
Glad it helped!
hm the same as my 60,5, but i would look at L first
Best video I could find on this topic! Really helped a lot, thank you
Glad it helped!
That was the best, most comprehensive helmet video I've seen. Well done. I've made several expensive mistakes with buying a size too small then hoping it would break in. It never did. I had measured my head when I was younger at 58cm but never measured it again. After a few wrong choices and horrible forehead headaches, I realised I should measure my head again. I was getting 61.5cm which shocked me. So I needed an XL in most brands. I chose Bell for their great Sharp results (and other test results) and my Bell Race Star fits like a dream. I tried some of the tests suggested in this video and it fits well. I'd like the option of different size liners but I'm not sure if Bell offers them. Anybody know?
Thank you. Same here, getting the help of an expert was brilliant. Bell do offer replacement liners and cheek pads, but it doesnt look like they are available in different thicknesses
When you were a 58cm what size did you wear? I'm a 57.5cm and the salesman said I needed a medium but they were so tight.
@@bobbyb7127 each manufacturer will give a letter size S, M, L, etc and a range of actual sizes in centimeter and inches. I think you can count on that.
Man I am 61.5cm but no XL helmet fits my head, I have a problem with XXL full face helmets too so I usually get dual sport helmets :(
Very well put together & especially informative video, I also bought some KEIS 601 gloves because of your very well informed video cheers Fella keep up the good work!! 👌🏻👍🏻
Glad it was helpful Dave
@@mancavemoto yes was very helpful thanks fella!! 👌🏻👍🏻
Cheers guys. The thing I dont like about Arais fitting service is that I constantly get refused the ability to swap out cheek pads and caps for something I know fits me, for example I know an M RX7V fits me nice for a few weeks until the pads break in, then it becomes too loose but an S wont fit me- but the shops ive spoken to all tell me I have to buy the cheek pads separately, incurring more cost to me, and leaving me with brand new cheek pads I have to eBay at a competitive used price to get rid of, then have to ship and faff etc.
Alternatively the Shoei fitting comes with the ability to change interior for free.
I like the helmet at the end lol ...... I have an Arai, love it. Same colour modern grey, but trying to locate a code or ral/pantone or whatever is impossible. Bet Joe knows
Interesting, i'll ask them what the situation is with that. Where are you based out of interest?
I'll ask him ;)
@@mancavemoto Thanks matey, i’m currently In Northwich, UK (next to Chester)- We have a J&S here ar oakmere that have swore blond nownits not oart of the service and only do so with Shoei lids. Also tried Places online like Helmet city and Infinity (possible SBS, I cant fully recall now) online and had the same last year.
@@mancavemoto I spoke to Arai uk and they said arai japan will not give them that info. A car paint shop should be able to scan/match near enough. I'm in Lincolnshire (grantham) for the last 15 years but originally from North London.
This is the best fitment guide on UA-cam. My head is exactly 57 cm in circumference. I’ve measured in different ways, different parts, loosely, tightly, and I always get either 57 cm or darn close to it. This puts me in a medium shell in nearly every manufacturer. However, in the few helmets I’ve used, I’ve had differing results. Biltwell’s medium just chokes my head out, but their large is just too large. I think it’s because the Biltwell Gringo is just so stiff and has very little padding. It was like I was wearing just the eps shell and nothing else. So now I’ve just purchased a medium Shoei RF1400 and it feels quite nice, but spending that much on my helmet has me worried that I didn’t buy the right size. I’ve tried on many different ones now and even a large in the Shoeis but it’s the same thing, the large just seems too big, I’m just terrified that I’m going to run into the same problem with the medium Shoei I just bought that I had with the Biltwell. Ugh. I think maybe I need to get some thinner cheek pads or something.
Im having similar problems, but shark small fit me alright bit of snug side ... you should give it a go, see how you feel
@@basantalamichhane4804 I ended up staying with the medium in my shoei. It feels a bit snug if I don’t wear it for awhile but it eventually loosens up and fits quite well. I dread having to buy another helmet eventually lol.
They say most are wearing 1 or 2 sizes too big....like a really snug fit on almost everything cept fir street jeans.....learned from MX that helmet should be as tight as you can tolerate
Hello,
The problem to go to a dealer is there is no dealer heaving Arai xd4 helmet at ALL.
I live in France near STRASBOURG and there's lot of motorcycle/helmet dealer, perhaps 20 or 30, 50km around.
Only one can sold Arai helmet.
I have waiting 1 year to this Arai "official" dealer to test one and buy it more then on internet, i play the game.
After one year he has one, far not my size of course.
There is a business problem.
Dealer sell 600 or 700e helmet like 1e pins, no measurement nothing to adapt, it's ridiculous.
Arai have to select one good dealer every 100km and be sure they have helmet to try, and don't sell to internet website then they dealer can live.
2 weeks ago i have buy a Klim Krios pro on internet, approximatively loto bingo size.
I've take the Klim because my Arai dealer pissed me off.
Some people would buy Arai and just can't because there is NO dealer.
This is the claim of a simple and honest person.
Thank's to Joe for explanation.
I have a long oval head. I had to travel over 300 miles to find a dealer that stocked the sizes that I was interested in (L and XL). I had measured my head and got 62cm which corresponds to an XL. Like you, I must not have measured the largest part of my head because it created a pressure point on my forehead. The XXL (63-64cm) did not, so I wore it for an hour. After purchasing the helmet, I drove the 300 miles back home. I felt like the cheek pads were a little bit loose and wanted to try the next size thicker pads which were out of stock. I have the next two sizes thicker pads and the 10mm liner on order and will try them to see if they provide a better fit. If they do, I will keep them. If they don’t, I will return them. Arai always suggests that riders go down a size or two when properly fitted. I guess that we don’t go for the roomy fit like most people do. It definitely fits me better than my Neotec does. It will take some time to get used to a full face helmet again.
Should your chin touch the front of a modular helmet?
Not ideally
How can I find a Helmet for me?! My crown head is 51 cm... I want a full helmet like ILM double, its not that big on the front. S will be too big, XS is big too right?
Very Very informative video. I learned more in this video than I care to admit. I first and foremost found out I don't know how to use my tape measure and I sew, 😂😂. I am a large not a medium like I thought. Best video on helmet sizing I have found. Thank you
Very interesting I always buy Shoei because a large fits perfectly however I did buy a Arai in large and gave up in the end obviously after watching this I needed a XL 😊
Nobody wants to be a walking bobble head, so opt for the smallest size.
But comfort in fitment should be a #1 priority.
I’m not sure what he means when conducting the crown fitment test. He notes that the first helmet he can’t get his finger under the “skull cap” and can just barely fit a finger under the “eps liner”. What do they mean by “skull cap” here?
When he says skull cap, he is referring the helmet liner
@@mancavemoto how is that different than the EPS liner? He specifically contrasts the two in his statement
@@mancavemoto I wonder if that’s a MIPS helmet. In those there’s a floating fabric liner that is separate from the EPS layer
The eps liner is the shock absorption part of the construction of the helmet, the skull cap is the removable comfort liner that sits next to the head.
I been using arai lids for this reason for last 3 lids. My latest is arai quantic. But great video and advice.
Good video. I wish you would have discussed fitment for riders who wear glasses.
Here's my problem: my head measures 58.5cm, but the helmet I bought lists M as 57-58cm. For L it lists 59-60. I bought the M, couldn't get it on my head. Bought the L, can get it on, but seems like it might be too big, only side to side. Crown is perfect. Temples perfect. In this case... should I buy thicker cheek pads for the L, or get the M and then get thinner cheek pads? I guess my question is: what if the crown is tight (can't fit fingers up there) but there is still a tiny bit of movement L to R?
If it fits well everywhere else I would suggest going to a premium Arai dealer and have them add some extra foam inserts to the side. sounds like if you went for the medium it would be too tight on the crown or forehead?
I LOVE my Arai Corsair X and recently put in slightly thicker cheek pads, was unaware you could get the upper liner a bit thicker as well... Thanks!!!
No problem
i got a slight pressure point on the crown of my head, around the sides. any suggestions?
Sir how tight should the helmet strap be(quick release/eu rachet)?
It seems uncomfortable when I tie it snugly & when I loose it a little, the strap comes out(with struggle) over the chin, when I try removing it out with hands.
It should be tight enough to hold the helmet securely on your head. if you can pull the strap over your chin, I would suggest that the helmet itself is too big
Thank you 🙏 I do have question tho by measures I’m medium but crown fit uncomfortable large on the other hand is good feel. How often riders go one size up ? Or crown pudding can be adjusted as well ?
Yes you can adjust the crown padding too
Great video! 👏🏻👌🏻
I have the EXACT same situation, same measurement and I’m between the two sizes(both with the 20mm pads). Interestingly , I have an old Tour X2 in large, which fits me great, with the exception that mouth and nose almost touch the chin guard. This is even worse on the X4, it seems they changed the overall fit a little bit(thicker protection on the back of the head maybe). When I put on the XL X4, I have a little wiggle and jt feels as if
the helmet would come down a little bit too much.
I hope I can get this sorted out because i really like the Arai, especially its great, wide view and comfort.
I think its a helmet with a bit more of a rounder headform? I wear the Quantic and Profile V in Large (with the thinner pad) and they are excellent. Not all Arais fit the same head shape
Very helpful video - and I've been fitted by Arai reps at shows in the past here in the U.S. They didn't check the forehead or temples like he did. Thank you Tony.
Glad it was helpful!
I have a RX7v. My head size measurement in 57in which is a medium for Arai. But it’s weird I find a small fits me better which is 56 inches. Weird but true.
Yes, it can all depend on the head form of the helmet. Contrary to popular belief not all Arai helmets are the same! A large in the Quantic and Profile V are perfect for me, but not in the Tour X4, RX7v or Rapide. If you buy one from Japan they are different again
Great vid Tony! 👍🏻 I'm looking to move away from my Shoei collection! Really think they just dont fit anymore! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Cheers, maybe its time to try another brand? Having Joe go through the process opened my eyes to quite a few things
I measured my head three times to make sure I got the right fit.
Then after the sizing, you need to consider head shape as well. Round Oval, Intermediate Oval, and Long Oval. The majority of people are Intermediate Oval, but the other shapes are something to consider. Just from watching this video, I would guess that your head shape is long oval. When you tried a helmet according to your head size, and the front and back was to tight in a Intermediate Oval helmet, it would indicate that you have a long oval head shape.
Yep, its handy to get someone else to do it too. We didnt touch on head shape because as you say the majority of people are intermediate oval. Going on to cover that subject would have made the video too long. My head shape is intermediate oval. The first helmet I tried was the size based on the measurement that I took, making the point that you have to get that bit right. Arai Size Large is 59-60cm, so although I could get it on my head it was no good. Joe measured my head at 61cm, hence the jump up to XL with some additional padding. The ability for Arai to tailor the interiors in many ways means that they can accomodate many head shapes as long as hey are not too extreme.
Great tips! Nice collection of plates in the background, too. I have lived in FL, SC, & OR :)
Thanks for watching!
Should all helmet dealers that stock arai's be able to help with this? Or how do I find the closest one to me? I'm keen to buy an arai next because of their dedication to safety but feel like I could do with some help adjusting the cheek pads. Two dealers I've been to have been a bit dismissive saying that maybe I should just go for another brand. Any help is much appreciated!!
All authorised Arai dealers should be able to offer a proper fitting. There is a dealer locator on the whyarai.co.uk website. Those dealers don’t sound great, and should be doing a bit of work if selling a premium helmet!
If you measured 61cm to begin with, why would you choose a large Arai that specifically states 59-60 cm ?
Because as I mentioned at 02:28 when I measured my head myself I measured at under 60cm, but it was when I had it measured properly for the video, Joe made a more accurate measurement.
Good job, it's really hard to find this information, thanks for this, I measured my cranium at a 60 I thought the same as you the forehead area , I will do the helmet push finger space check. Sometimes I think I need a shoe horn to get it on but when it is on it feels great. I know I have to grab the straps and spread it open some, I guess that's normal? The biggest thing I like is the visual field is really good.
Thanks Wayne, glad it helped.
I don’t have a helmet friendly head, an XL was too small and the XXL was just a tad loose, but okay. I took pickup bed tape, the real dense type, and cut three lengths to wrap around the sides and back… self adhesive, so I stacked them, each one onto the helmet, under the liner. Plus I cut a sheet of thin, heavy duty shipping liner, to fit right into the bowl right along the original padding. I have never had a better fitting helmet!
I'm not sure how that is going to effect the protective nature of the helmet. The eps lining is designed to absorb the impact and slow down the deceleration of the skull. Introducing another material could well interfere with that process.
Thanks for this! I ordered a Medium Ruroc since I barely measured for a large at 22.875 and it is extremely painful to wear and afterwards my head still hurts! I am sending it back for a Large tomorrow. Good to know it shouldn't be that tight.
Glad it was helpful!
Just watched the Helmet fit video, found it extremely informative and enlightening am in the process of buying a new helmet and I now feel I have the right information to get the right fit and it is great to hear from an expert on the dynamics of helmet fitting. I would like to think now when I buy a helmet for £500 I know what the bloody hell I am talking about. Really enjoy the channel keep up the good work. Robin White
Thanks Robin, I definitely learned a lot from Joe too. Glad it was helpful
How do I know that when I go into a shop they will make sure I have the correct size helmet? Your making a video with an expert , but the shop might just want to get a sale. I’m not sure I trust any shop employee to help me correctly?
That very much depends on what shop you go to. Its worth checking out reviews and talking to other riders for recommendations. I know that Arai make sure they they train staff in their stockists, i'm guessing the other big brands do the same? Hopefully this video has given you some ideas of what they should be checking
Helmet colour is also a big factor, with a white helmet you are less likely to be in an accident in the first place, thanks for this, ,my head is the same size as yours, so I'm going to try an Arai x tour in xl with the larger linings.
Indeed, I do quite like white helmets, they are a lot cooler in the summer too.
I always say buying a helmet is like buying shoes , you have to try it on , take the time to go to dealer , line a few up that you like and within your budget and try them on , do the little checks as outlined in the video and see what fits the best ( there's a few new checks that I will be doing now because of this video ) Great idea getting an expert in to show us all how to do this , and not trying to do it yourself and maybe not outlining these checks and ( with the best intentions ) misguiding people to a degree without even realising it , Personally I would not recommend buying a helmet online , always try them on in a shop when ever possible .
Exactly Gary, and thats one reason why I waited to make this video until I could get a trained expert in to cover it
Good info! What jacket are you wearing during the segments where you're riding your motorcycle?
It’s a Klim Drifter jacket
Very good. I have just bought a new Shoei J Cruise 2 helmet and the guy at the shop did the same as in the video, result is that it's a very good fit for my head.
Great to hear!
So I have my first helmet the only issue I have is taking it off its so tight getting on seems OK.. but that there's no space on the fore head
It may be worth looking to see if there is a thinner liner for it?
WoW if only we could get a pro fitting when we buy helmets... those general sells-people aren’t cutting it
In reality any authorised Arai dealer should be able to take a customer through this process. But it seems that may not always be the case based on some comments i've seen
A brilliantly instructive informative piece Tony. One which I have shared with my biking mates. Cheers 🍻
Awesome, thank you!
How should it fit on the jaw line and chin? I tried a couple on but seems like my jaw line is out and also my chin when I talk.
Hey did you find a resolve to this. I have the same issue and I'm new to motor bike helmet fitment
Great video. Best helmet fitting video in my opinion, especially for those who owns or wants an arai helmet.
Glad you think so!
Great video! Do you have some tips for riding with glasses???
Unfortunately not, I don’t wear glasses so can’t offer any useful information.
Great vid, and nice to get a professional opinion too, think I will steer clear of buying online then
Yep it was great to have Joe's expertise
Thanks for covering such an important issue so well. This must be the thinking man's channel. 😉
Thanks Jim
i ride with an Arai medium. It feels great but around freeway speeds it was pushing off my head. got the thickest cheek pads and now its better... but i still feel like its shifting around my head on the highway. The small feels way too tight tho. Should I swap out the inner liner on a small to a thinner crown pad size or swap out to a larger crown size in the medium? I feel like a gumball head in my medium. I measure between 56.5-57cm.
Sounds like you maybe need to go with a thicker skull cap, it’s amazing what a couple of millimetres make
@@mancavemoto Ill try a small with a thinner liner. Hate having to carry around the same shell size of a large
Good vid,got a better idea of how to get a better fitting lid,also do like the colour of that helmet.cheers
No problem Tony, yes its a really nice colour, very smart 👍
Super helpful my man. That is really helpful to know! Thank you
Happy to help!
I use the tour x4 for my daily commute i find it fogs really bad and I did have a fog insert but doesn't fit very well causing air bubbles very terrible. I still use it and the fit is a little odd compared to my arai rx7v the tour xd4 seems very big and doesn't seem to fit on my head in the position that it should
The visor has quite a sharp curve which makes it tricky for the pinlock to seat properly. The tour x4 and RX7v have slightly different head forms. Despite what people believe Arai helmets differ from model to model,
@@mancavemoto that explains why the fog insert doesn’t work and also why the helmet itself doesn't fit very well. Might go back to old helmet as it also has a chin curtain.
I am wearing the wrong helmet for the type of motorcycles I'm riding. I ride a sport tourer and a suzuki gladius. I like the look of the tour xd4 because it looks mature especially in the modern grey but just have issue with the fitment, fog and lot's of wind getting up the helmet or when doing blind spot checks the peak because a huge problem.
Will 30mm cheek pad fits in Arai rx7v medium size
Yes they will, all of the RX7v cheek pads work with all size helmets
Apart from an Arai, the Condor from 2005, the best-fitting helmet I have had has been a Caberg Stunt. Caberg's open face helmet fits me just as well, too.
Excellent video. And Joe seems a very nice bloke.
Yep, and the safest helmet is often the one that fits you best. Joe is a top lad
Now, where is the tape measure?
Excellent vid thanks
ha! Cheers Whitty
No audio
Turn your volume up maybe? There’s audio
Thanks Tony
Shoei XL ryd fits me spot on, similarly caberg XL fits. Just can't get on with an agv system XL, catches me on the chin. Had to go for a XXL in an LS2.
No problem. Yep theres quite a bit of variation, sometimes even with the same brand.
I found that very interesting and helpful, so thank you Tony and Joe.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thats a great looking helmet. Might have to go and check them out.
I think its excellent, looks great, very safe and really well ventilated
A very professional video, it just makes me feel what I am amateur !
Thanks
Excellent video and really helpful, thank you.
You're very welcome!
great video, very informative. Thanks!
No problem
As helpful a helmet video as I remember watching. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Tony, any thoughts on buying (in US) a new but heavily discounted Arai Vector 2 in 2022? Probably a five year old helmet sitting on the shelf, but reduced price makes thus Arai affordable. Better to go new?
This may be not the subject of this vodeo, but it's worth mentioning the new scam in helmet business : DoubleD-rings. They may be slightly safer at extreme speeds, but they cost almost NOTHING to produce, while the price customers pay is same as for propper Quick release - that is far more user friendly and complicated, as a system.
New Scam? Double d ring fastenings have been around for donkeys years. They are simple and more importantly efficient, when a solution works so well theres no need to change it. i've found that quick release fastenings are often much more bulky
@@mancavemoto
U do realize that 2 simle pieces of metal MUST be much cheaper to produce, than a reliable quick release ❓- Im pissed by the fact, that this choice is rapidly taken away, and only the CHEAPEST for the helmet makers, remains, while the users must put out, at least same 💰💰💰
Of course it’s cheaper, but probably no by much in the whole scheme of things. Manufacturers are not charging you more to fit a double d ring. I can understand if you prefer a quick release, but I don’t understand the argument around cost. Some people won’t buy a helmet if it HAS a quick release strap
@@mancavemoto 😖😖😖😖😖 .... please - READ what I've written.
Head too big🤣👍
Thorough video. Earned a subscriber.
Thank you
I struggle with this ,great useful vid
Glad it helped!
Excellent. Thanks for this.
My pleasure!
Very useful. Thanks for that
Glad it was helpful!
Do they charge for different liners?
There usually is an additional cost for different cheek pads etc, it really just depends on what you need. Most Arai dealers will have a little kit of 'extras' they can use for a custom fit that usually doesn't incur a charge (at least we wouldn't charge for that) but once you get into cheek pads etc they're extra.. Arai are the best for this type of thing, Bell, OMP, Sparco etc don't offer it to their dealers. It's the most important piece of kit so you need to ensure it fits properly and authorised dealer is best placed to do that for you
Good video. Thanks, Big 'ead
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Thank you. Very helpful 👍
No problem
Great video. New sub
Cheers
Excellent products …
Yes they are!
Good tips, thank you!
No problem!
Great video as always Tony!
I appreciate that Sam, hope you're keeping well
Cheers from Virginia....
Thanks Kenny
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Thank you
Thanks big guy!
Any time!
Man I got a big ol head
Me too