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Thanks again for taking time to travel to attend Sifu's workshop and conduct this interview. Hoping to bring him and some senior students over to Thailand regularly.
Seeing this on video does not do it justice. It's so eerie feeling someone in sticky hands take your control of balance away from you. And they have a rock solid foundation.
Thanks for taking the time to interview Sifu. I learned a lot about some things at later levels that I did not understand. It was also good to see Rich, Zoltan, and Sifu's son.
I love his concept of you just walk in and get that contact, meaning you’re not pulling your arms back to deliver a strike, you just strike. It’s similar in some ways to the sticking in Wing Chun in that you use the contact to feel and thus deliver the pain (I like to say). I love too how he explained the difference between being “soft” as opposed to “light”, that was good!
Thank you for the great video. After taking a little time to start learning some of the energy arts it is amazing how open Sifu is in this video. These arts are truly hard to understand without experiencing. - A fellow aiki learner
Loved it! Been a big fan of il liq quan for many years. Very cool to see GM chin in action! Nice one Keiron! Awesome work again! Best wishes from rob O'Shea
I much like the direct experience hands on training approach. Grounded in reality far more than doing prearranged sets, which only promotes good structure and not application. Getting people into the "fight" mindset, and movement, and then cleaning up their structures is truly retro.
I have an amazing Kung Fu studio I train at in Philadelphia that you are welcome to interview. It's an accredited school and lineage Wu Tang System from Taiwan. The Sifu is well known, teaches authentic Chinese martial arts/ structure training and highly skilled in his art and combat. He's taught over 30yrs and runs his acupuncture healing Center there as well. Would be happy to discuss further if you ever travel to that area for filming.
What is authentic martial arts? It's not easy to find good teachers. I am not convinced that what they teach is as important as the ability of the teacher to get it across to the students, especially for the internal. There are some very good teachers that have developed their own version of taiji chuan or whatever they call it. I think that some younger sifus have managed to find better methods because they don't care about authenticity. They only care about results. If you have a great way to get energy flowing then why quibble about the fact that your way is much different than the old Chinese masters. My question is if it is more important that methods are effective or how authentic they are?
he is probably one of the few people who really can do sticky hands, most WC master cannot emulate gm chin...maybe you can comment on how GM chin does sticky hands compared to sifu Sergio and other wc masters you interview...
@@kettlebellsandkungfu3301 true, but that's probably why he mentioned Sergio specifically - that dude clearly done some digging into Chi Sao being much deeper than a game of tag it became in modern pop-WingChun. As much as some other of Sergio's concept felt alien to me, the way he adressed sticky hands and push hands (and other excercises of that type, like spinning hands in ILC) as being basically different aspects of the same method in his second interview for this channel clearly shows he understands it on a level that transcends styles
There is a big difference between being a Teacher, and a Master. Many teachers have very good knowledge to pass on, and they can be mild to excellent in execution. That said.. a Masterclass level fighter, in one that has fully mastered everything that they had learned... and when they execute, its always the 100% maximum potentials, that their bodies are physically capable of. A Master, does not make "Mistakes", nor do they have variances in their output. As for WC in particular... Most WC practitioners are missing the Internal training aspects of the art. For example.. in the first form, the section that is repeated 3x, is called "Three Prayers to Buddha". This single particular section, is supposed to take about 16min to fully complete. Thats at least 60 seconds minimum to fully extend and retract the arm (IE: Fook out, to WU in), in each movement. You do the rest of the form at normal pace... and when the form is completed, you start the form again, without any pause between. You repeat the form 4 times in a row... which is a little over 1hr of time. You then repeat this 1hr form, at least every other day, for like 3 months. Anything less than 1hr forms, and your body will NOT be strained enough to develop Internal Power. (along with many other benefits) Sergio is one of the few whom have a little understanding about what Internal power is. To what level? Ive not paid enough attention to know... and the few short vid clips Ive seen, do not show much. He seems more interested in money, than spreading higher truths. I can understand this to a degree, as many of the masters he seeks out, are likely charging him large sums as well. But ultimately, its one factor in the Traditional arts... potentially ending up extinct, due to misinformation + degradation. All of this said... Sticking to this degree is not always optimal, nor desired. If you are being attacked by multiples.. you want to incapacitate them near instantly.. as you do not have time to "Play" around with each of them. Also, you do not want to simply get them off-balance... as they will simply come back again. And.. you will note that the Martial man was incapable of moving the Sifus arms. Even IF he had the proper training behind him... would he be able to move the Sifus arms.. if the Sifu decided to stonewall him? Basically put: It would seem that this particular method favors superior strength. IE: The larger / stronger OP has the advantages. As such, trying to keep such a fighter from getting that stuck to you, would be better than directly trying to challenge his superior strength. All of these methods have their own unique Advantages, and Disadvantages.
@@Orimthekeyacolite Chi Sao is mainly a closed loop coordination builder drill. One aspect that people often do not get... is that you are supposed to intentionally present "Flaws" into your Chi Sao... and see if the OP feels these flaws, and reacts to them properly... or if he misses the opportunities altogether. The OP is supposed to do the same. In this way, both parties are being challenged to LISTEN... and to be able to feel and find these errors + be able to take advantage of them the INSTANT they are detected. Imagine, if two OPs were doing Chi Sao, and neither presented any flaws? They would be rolling back and forth forever, without any ACTUAL reason... to go beyond that point. It was never meant to be a game to see whom is SUPERIOR. It was never meant to be a Competition. Its a Mutual skill builder, when done properly. Also, Chi Sao is not meant to be a realistic representation of actual combat. For one.. it lacks "ENTRY". In a real fight, the OP is likely going to enter with a long range kick, and go immediately into hand to hand interception, and Trapping. Chi Sao can not replicate this correctly. Also, many other hand techs and methods, can not be fully executed properly, in CS. Again, its Optimized to be a closed loop... so that both OPs get Maximum training time within this sensitivity drill (rather than having an Open-Drill... that Stops and Starts, and needs constant "Resetting"). As a result of the Ignorance about CS's meaning... the OPs tend to use it as if its a combat skill game. They rarely "Listen" to the OPs energy and Intent... and instead, try spend more time trying to brute force their way into a trap and hit. While WC can operate in a brute-force manor... such a person will not fare well when trying to do such a thing against a much larger and stronger OP. That stronger OP, will simply tense up and Stone-Wall the weaker OP... and that weaker OP wont be able to move the stronger OPs limbs. This again, is why its so critical, that you learn how to Listen for structural, positional, and vectoral.. flaws / weaknesses. You might have to be very patient, before an Opportunity presents itself. As for the Internal Aspects of WC... Ive posted part of the info above, in the other reply. The main application of WCs internal methods, is for stability, and power generation (Fajin - explosive power). WCs punches teach the main principle of Fajin (relaxed, until moment of solid impact...then quickly tighten, and just as quickly, release). However... most WC practitioners never fully master this Skill. Most of them would have a very difficult time causing a KO from 6" distance... let alone, to be able to generate lethal forces in less than 2" of runway. Back when I was training, I did learn and master fajin, down to inch distance. It took me maybe 3 months of daily +1hr sessions, to get to that level of expression. I also used some special equipment. After fully mastering it... it was easy to KO fighters from my near fully extended lead guard hand, to their foreheads. Less than 6" of travel, and I never needed more than 15% power levels, for an easy KO. That was with shock-absorbing MMA gloves on. Without gloves, and using even half power levels... would have been lethal at 2". Probably fully lethal at 1" with full power levels... but of course, I was never going to put that to the test. Fajin is not just for Punches either. I used it on a Jut Sao, to deflect an MMA fighter low attack. Unfortunately, he foolishly decided to ramp up to full power, full speed... with true intent to harm. This caused my 15% power levels... to be vastly amplified, at impact. It not only stopped his attack cold... but also, nearly shattered his wristbone. Within about an hrs time, it had nearly doubled in size, and was giving his searing pains... for many nights to follow. While Internal power can be used to make an OP go off balance... the fact is, that WC was designed to be as fast as possible, in taking out OPs. As such, we only stick long enough to know where the OPs limbs are, and then we tend to immediately deflect / pin / attack. Sticking longer, is more in line with standing-Grappling (Chi Na). But WC was designed to take on multiple soldiers... and grappling would have been too slow for that application method. Especially since the fighters they were going up against, would have been highly skilled, and could have put up quite a good fight.
sticky hand is one of the weirdest things out there. you cannot understand it from watching, you just have to find someone who knows this stuff and feel it yourself. in my opinion it is an excellent tool to teach balance and body movement. it is not practical in combat on its own but balance is still the backbone of fighting
@@kingofaikido yep, chi sau is a form of clinch fighting. the point of it being that if you control your opponent then there isnt a lot they can do to attack you or even defend themselves. this style (my cousin is sitting in that room) doesnt work off blocking and striking simultaneously. in fact it doesnt block, you evade and stick with your hands to establish control.... then you lay into them with heavy strikes. its kind of similar to taichi sticking but thats more about appearing vulnerable with a 'square' posture and then deflecting your opponent down the apex of a 'triangle posture' such that they run into a strike. wing chuns approach to sticking is different still so at no point should you really consider this to be chi sau, despite the similarities. sticking is a skill for entering into strking range without making yourself equally vulnerable to strikes. if you cant work your angles and control your opponent then you stand there taking it in turns to hit eachother... thats bad kung fu, and some would say bad fighting in general. chi sau/sticking is useless to people who cant be bothered to learn how to actually fight, some people cant get further than just striking in turn and holding a guard in the most predictable manner possible such that they never bother to learn fundamental defensive skills beyond slapping someones hand away with uncoordinated parries... high level parrying is relaxed and soft, sticking to and following the strike without knocking the hand away where you lose track and just have to cover your head up in anticipation of being punched, instead of being able to proactively defend. anyone who wants to have some skill will first understand that sticking is not a technique, its a very broad concept used predominately by grapplers and clinch fighters whether they realise it or not.
I spin a stick that is my arm length and has weighted ends. It started with strictly grip changes until my thumb and wrist were hurting too much that it led to “no grip” and honestly it’s a very interesting phenomenon. One can close the eyes and be fully connected to that object even while it is not in contact with the body at all (ex. thrown in the air). I train this for entertainment but as I said it is arm length, and while I’d have to somehow find myself in a position of control over an opponents arm, if I did have that I without a doubt control your arm. The little changes in momentum at any part of the stick can be felt throughout the entire stick. I did try something similar with a friend who honestly clearly isn’t practicing his drums when he needs to be. So started slow speed attacking him with 2 rubber covered drum sticks and he blocked instinctively, not always in a good position but when he hit a good blocking point I pushed him a little further by doing sticking hands with the drum sticks. His eyes lit up wide clearly and any excuse of the ego disappeared as his brain was hyper focused on this very small point of contact and how much control it had. It’s a wonderful exercise that demonstrates a lot about energy transfers, pivot points, and control.
I used to do fire-poi and fire-stick as well. I know what you mean. I also have a black belt in Jodo (Shindo Muso-ryu). Been twirling all my life..! They are definitely transferable skills to sticky hands... You're on the right track!
Southern Mantis is a Hakka system. Sifu's family is Hakka. Sifu's father created ILC from other styles he studied earlier. Sifu's system, ZXD reflects the current curriculum
hey I watch many of your videos on martial arts . To me I think it's always a mind game when you let the "kungfu master" show you the moves . It is always a mind game and you will always tend to follow his way , in order words, to be led by him . If you are a martial artist or just an enthusiast then don't be afraid to be a little more aggressive when you do chi sau/ sticky hands or in contact with the teacher . This way you'll know if he is legit . I am not disrespecting anyone or any martial art styles but the only way to learn is to test the teacher. Sticky hand with him as if you are in a fight like you are attacking him to see how he reacts instead of letting him lead you all the way. Anyone can achieve iron palm/hand by practicing. Therefore if the teacher shows you he can hit hard or break something, that doesn't mean he is a winner in a fight or a great teacher. My college friend years ago could cause serious bruises if anyone spar with him or just do chi sau. All he did was hit the small bag he filled with metal steel balls he carried with him everyday! So that's what I would do when I meet a teacher if I want to do the push and pull with him the way I want not the way he wants me to move .
To an extent that's right. Whenever I have trained with a Master, Shifu or student & they say throw a punch, I make it more realistic by throwing it quite fast and straight, aiming for throat, head or chest with intent to hit the target. If they can only show me with a slow haymaker, thats aimed a foot beside their head into space, that's not trying to contact, then I don't want to know about it!
Thank you for the high level insights. I understand know why you can combine this very good to the more softer wing tsun. Absolute Master. To high level for me :) I see also connections with Taikiken.
there's now 4? different styles that use 意 in their name. 形意拳 xingyi quan， 心意拳 xinyi quan，意拳 yiquan， 意力拳 yi li quan (i liq chuan)。The first 3 are related, is this also related to the others?
There are hundreds. Quan just means fist in Chinese and by extension describes a martial art. A vast majority of Chinese martial arts includes the word quan in their name.
@@chenfamilygongfu I was talking about the 意 "yi" character. I know that quan (fist) is used in almost every style, except notably for baguazhang (8 trigrams palm). I was asking because Yi Quan (意拳) is a direct descendant of Xing Yi Quan (形意拳). I forget what the exact relation of the third one Xinyi Quan (心意拳) was, but I think it was related somehow.
Hey Martial Man, Master Sam is also a favorite of mine. He teaches the truth. It takes meditation to understand this. Human beings are all alike, perhaps animals too. Tension, relaxation, yin and yang... these are the cycles of life. It is natural and wonderful. We must train to understand this. Sung will take you a long way. Then apply sung on your mind too and your emotions. In the end, the path only gets deeper and wider until we are one with the universe, as corny as that sounds. It's true. Everyone struggles. The enlightened man does too, but he doesn't worry as much, and he 'knows' in Sam's words The WAY. It is not like MMA. It is nonviolent and contributes to long term health. It isn't for fighting only.
Every now and then you come across a martial art you've never heard of. The song and dance sounds appealing. Mesmerizing. Looks great in demonstrations with students from the same style going with the flow for the sake of the demo. Like Aikido. Or any traditional martial art with flashy moves. How would the art do in a live combat situation when the other guy is trying hard to arm-bar you or knock you out. No punches or attacks pulled. Having fighter with skills from another coach and style. WHere's the body conditioning? The diet. All athletes need both. As do competitive fighters. Otherwise it's just "exercise". If t hat is the goal of studying that art...fine. If it's just a form of aerobic exercise for the student. It's one thing to stand around doing sticky hands with classmates VS stepping into a ring with some one you don't know who isn't going to hold back.
Sam Chin fought successfully for several years in full contact competitions in the late 70's early 80's. As did his training partner and cousin Jimmy Heow. When he became a Selangor State Champion in 79, he moved up a weight category, so as not to have to fight his cousin. They both won their categories, Sam's longest fight lasting 40 seconds. Several of Sam Chin's close students have also fought successfully in several full contact competitions. The top student of his top student, Daria Sergeva, took the world championship title in Muay Thai (WTKA) as well as winning several other titles in Sanda, push hands etc. While ILC is not a sport, the style is well tested.
Not a criticism but simply observation, both GM Chin opponents were locking up their structure in all sort of ways and that is why they were easily outbalanced
As i had the luck to work with the master directly i can tell you it is not intentional. You want to flow, and react, but the master locks your joints with very sublime forces and then takes your balance easily. We were also taught this and this is the fascinating thing about I Liq Chuan, they give you DEEP knowledge and a way to find your center (balance) and it is up to you to find your own balance and also use mindfulness to be more aware in the current moment, which is something that benefits you greatly in all of your life (in a busy supermarket;). And i came from tae kwon do, kickboxing, tai chi (a looot of years of just forms), but only I Liq Chuan started with deep rooted explanations that actually made sense. I recommend:)
According his philosophy if someone push you in the water and you can swim but I Liq Chuan philisophy say stop swiming it is the experience from the past and it is wrong you must drown.Self killing philosophy am i wrong?😁
Being touched by him more like he constantly returns the energy going to his body onto you from whatever contacts points, both hands or one hand? I have been trained by someone who does that
What’s your opinion on this system? The striking etc looks ‘unorthodox’. It’s like you’re crashing in then applying I Lig Chuan principles? Would like to know your opinion. Thanks!
Hi Mark, check out the additional footage from the interview which shows the kicks, Chin na and many more explanations into the system. They are available to watch on my website themartialman.com/members-only-videos/
If you want to see an ILC student/instructor using ILC in multiple situations-teaching, training, sparring, combat sport-- look up Dasha/Daria Sergeeva's channel here on UA-cam. If you want to see more of Sifu from this workshop, you'll have to buy access to Martial Man's website
I attended several of Sam's seminars and trained for a while under a direct student of his. It is very good stuff! Hard to get perhaps from watching a video but once he lays his hands on you, it's over.
The ultimate chinese martial arts "find" is a high level stylist that can actually fight using their style. Yes, their are many other benefits of training traditional martial arts but if they are not proven effective in actual combat then interest will continue to fade and the arts will inevitably die. All we have is stories of combat effectiveness but no proof. Find the proof and youll have a major, game changing story!
hai suo hui li zai jin ya zai she hai she she rong te zai wang she li tang rong wang she san chin hsien wang she hai zhi tong ce te zhong xin dao li shi wang zai wang hai she wang hai she wang wang zai
He Burped in to the mic Thats verry informative I just wish you cut out the burp in 18:40 it just ruined the experience. Thank you for this great video in going to subscribe and like.
It will work against anybody. If you just get knocked out before you do anything how is anything gonna work? Xu Xiadong is no big deal. Only promoted by fight commentary breakdown channel and South China Morning Post newspaper run by white people. He is a fake. Only choose weaker opponents to fight. You may disagree if you don't know about this conspiracy . Last month He turned down a Canadian Wing Chun masters fight proposal just because he is tall and can actually fight.
So the question was "So in combat, your strategy is making contact to control the person..?" His response was "Not necessary (or necessarily)..." "Everything, (in Chinese) Punch, Kick, Throw, Lock/Seize " ....I believe he is clarifying that superior timing, power, and distance/spacing in all ranges/phases of of movement can maintain the same control of the center, not only after contact, ..'everything' bridging, striking, grappling, etc... Cheers 😁
Gosh, so much wise talking, I touch you and you can't move... The proof is in the puding - show the same skill against someone unwilling to help or in UFC -- touch an opponent so he or she can't use their legs to kick your legs or take you down.
the problem with wing chun is that it is very demonstrative through instruction. This is why unless you know a harder style you ae making yourself a target. Bruce found this out the had way. Wing chun is no where near invincible. In fact, it was cultivated by a female so its weaknesses are inherent in her physical body. I mean if wing chun was all that then Bruce would not have had a complaint. But he found out its limitations when it came to real martial artist, like the one that ran him out of Washington state. then when he was brought down from SF by Ed parker, his brown belt beat him. Bruce lee was a phony martial artist but the best movie star martial artist in California. He was not match for what he thoguht he could intercept. That is a fool, ya'll (who died like one)
And do you know bruce open a wingchun school when he arrives in sf? He teached there for 9 years.. his wc even not complete yet because he only learns wc in a year.
@@Linanjaya that cannot be true according to the timeline. Who are you? He was run out of SF by the Northern Traditionalists bc he was running his mouth saying WC was martial arts and theirs was not. This brought about the Jack Man challenge when Bruce was run out of SF and went to Oakland. And he learned wc for two years out of the three-year course. Bruce is in hell ya'll bc he did not believe there was a God Who hated him. Just not as much as the triads who ran him out of Hong Kong. Where do you get your information?
I dont say what u say is wrong, it s just not really complete. And no further i want to discuss this matter. I believe u are a good reader, and an objective one. One day if u search it well, u ll find the path. And more knowledge will be added to u. But what i said earlier is a true history of his. Good luck my friend. God speed
@@maddarkstorm5653 What happens is that it is a mandarin word, romanized using Malay spelling, and then read using English pronunciation that makes it look weird. Those of us from Malaysia are used to this practice. My family name in Mandarin is Yeh, in Cantonese is Yip, but it is written as Yap because the family dialect is Hakka, then romanized using Malay spelling.
Dont get me wrong! I respect the Masters but my question is when they are teaching the sticky hands, your opponent wont be there to do the same thing. They will throw punches, they will go for take downs, kick or grapple. How can you translate what he is teaching when actual fights dont happen like that?
It's for what it is for. If anything doesn't work in one situation you have to learn something that works for that situation. It's all about mixing your art. That's how Wong Fei Hung did. That's how Huo Yuan Jia did.
SH is not the fight, just like one steps are not the fight. These things are avenues to understand the art. Moments in time, that’s all any training should be, a tool to grasp principle and expression. If you’re gonna fight, be neutral and experienced.
Fights start disconnected(punches kicks). But if you have 2 experienced fighters trying to block and counter that’s the beginning of sticky hands. It’s also training the energy of the art
Real martial ARTS are about self improvement, health, and passing on traditional values like respect and manners. Better people make a better society. If the only thing you care about is street fighting, that makes you a thug. If a thug attacks me, I won't waste time and energy fighting. I will shoot him with a gun. Bang Bang, one less thug, no loss to the world.
Yeah.. its all good having people that will comply with what you are teaching..... Its very different when it comes to someone who is punching your head in, train for reality not fantasy, as I always say bullshit doesn't work in a real fight.
was this before or after he joined the EWTO? What he doesn't know yet, sooner or later he will loose eveything to Kernspecht and the name of his Art wil disappear But till then, he ll earn a lot of money like Leung Ting did...
Its great to learn and play with but do they fight? Do they have a proven history of good fighters? Has there been any great and famous boxers in this linage using this. If not can it really be called a martial art? Or is it just a set of skills that could be used in fighting... maybe....just hasnt been proven yet?
Not clear what his father studied....shed did he learn that he later taught in the group?what did the group study,from whom?it certainly had some influence ..does any one here know?
The history of the style is on the website. "Chin Lik Keong is the Founder of the system. He studied martial arts from several masters including Sifu Lee Sum training Lee Style, Sifu Len training Phoenix Eye (the striking of meridian points), and his last Sifu was Lee Kam Chow training Feng Yang Lu Yi. Some people called it Lu Yie Pa Kua, Hsing-I Pa Kua or Liew Mun Pai (nomadic clan)."
No no, you learned everything he seemed to have to teach. When asked about striking his response of "everything" seemed forced & wasn't followed up by any direct demonstrations of the techniques.....because there aren't any, I suspect. Perfect chance to show them wasn't taken. Why?
lots of esoteric talk - unfortunately hoods don't respect these nice philosophies...that beer bottle is coming for your head innit whilst his girlfriend's rottie is chewing your ankle off...
Real martial ARTS are about self improvement, health, and passing on traditional values like respect and manners. Better people make a better society. If the only thing you care about is street fighting, that makes you a thug. If a thug attacks me, I won't waste time and energy fighting. I will shoot him with a gun. Bang Bang, one less thug, no loss to the world.
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Yeah you are from KL ?
Chin Thong ?
I’ve felt him. With the lightest touch he had total control. And such a nice guy. Respect.
This guy is a true master only by the way he speak. Respect from Mozambique!
Greetings from Thailand
Thanks again for taking time to travel to attend Sifu's workshop and conduct this interview. Hoping to bring him and some senior students over to Thailand regularly.
Seeing this on video does not do it justice. It's so eerie feeling someone in sticky hands take your control of balance away from you. And they have a rock solid foundation.
Jim Hane agreed 100%!
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beautifull meeting...im very greatfull about these episode.
thank you!
Thanks for taking the time to interview Sifu. I learned a lot about some things at later levels that I did not understand.
It was also good to see Rich, Zoltan, and Sifu's son.
Urban Acolyte I'm happy you enjoyed the video and it helps with your understanding. Thanks for the comment
I love his concept of you just walk in and get that contact, meaning you’re not pulling your arms back to deliver a strike, you just strike. It’s similar in some ways to the sticking in Wing Chun in that you use the contact to feel and thus deliver the pain (I like to say). I love too how he explained the difference between being “soft” as opposed to “light”, that was good!
What?
I haven't been as lucky to actually find someone this skilled that I can feel what he's talking about. Thank you for sharing!
Wonderful teachings. So freely giving. Reality is the moment you accept the moment. Thank you!
Douglas Newman thank you for the comment
Very insightful indeed. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for the great video. After taking a little time to start learning some of the energy arts it is amazing how open Sifu is in this video. These arts are truly hard to understand without experiencing.
- A fellow aiki learner
Really great insights into this fascinating martial art. Thank you!
Excellent video and extraordinary conclusion at the end; nothing is unbreakable!
Thank you very much! Great video!
True internal stuff. Much gratitude.
Wow!! And yes!! This kind of thing I always wanted to learn!!! I am going to subscribe you, Martial Man!
This is great - Sifu Sam is the real deal!
Loved it! Been a big fan of il liq quan for many years. Very cool to see GM chin in action! Nice one Keiron! Awesome work again! Best wishes from rob O'Shea
I much like the direct experience hands on training approach. Grounded in reality far more than doing prearranged sets, which only promotes good structure and not application. Getting people into the "fight" mindset, and movement, and then cleaning up their structures is truly retro.
I have an amazing Kung Fu studio I train at in Philadelphia that you are welcome to interview. It's an accredited school and lineage Wu Tang System from Taiwan. The Sifu is well known, teaches authentic Chinese martial arts/ structure training and highly skilled in his art and combat. He's taught over 30yrs and runs his acupuncture healing Center there as well. Would be happy to discuss further if you ever travel to that area for filming.
What is authentic martial arts? It's not easy to find good teachers. I am not convinced that what they teach is as important as the ability of the teacher to get it across to the students, especially for the internal. There are some very good teachers that have developed their own version of taiji chuan or whatever they call it. I think that some younger sifus have managed to find better methods because they don't care about authenticity. They only care about results. If you have a great way to get energy flowing then why quibble about the fact that your way is much different than the old Chinese masters. My question is if it is more important that methods are effective or how authentic they are?
Wow this was great!!
This is great!
he is probably one of the few people who really can do sticky hands, most WC master cannot emulate gm chin...maybe you can comment on how GM chin does sticky hands compared to sifu Sergio and other wc masters you interview...
I Liq Chuan sticky hands is not the same as Wing Chun sticky hands
@@kettlebellsandkungfu3301 true, but that's probably why he mentioned Sergio specifically - that dude clearly done some digging into Chi Sao being much deeper than a game of tag it became in modern pop-WingChun. As much as some other of Sergio's concept felt alien to me, the way he adressed sticky hands and push hands (and other excercises of that type, like spinning hands in ILC) as being basically different aspects of the same method in his second interview for this channel clearly shows he understands it on a level that transcends styles
There is a big difference between being a Teacher, and a Master. Many teachers have very good knowledge to pass on, and they can be mild to excellent in execution. That said.. a Masterclass level fighter, in one that has fully mastered everything that they had learned... and when they execute, its always the 100% maximum potentials, that their bodies are physically capable of. A Master, does not make "Mistakes", nor do they have variances in their output.
As for WC in particular... Most WC practitioners are missing the Internal training aspects of the art. For example.. in the first form, the section that is repeated 3x, is called "Three Prayers to Buddha". This single particular section, is supposed to take about 16min to fully complete. Thats at least 60 seconds minimum to fully extend and retract the arm (IE: Fook out, to WU in), in each movement. You do the rest of the form at normal pace... and when the form is completed, you start the form again, without any pause between. You repeat the form 4 times in a row... which is a little over 1hr of time. You then repeat this 1hr form, at least every other day, for like 3 months. Anything less than 1hr forms, and your body will NOT be strained enough to develop Internal Power. (along with many other benefits)
Sergio is one of the few whom have a little understanding about what Internal power is. To what level? Ive not paid enough attention to know... and the few short vid clips Ive seen, do not show much. He seems more interested in money, than spreading higher truths. I can understand this to a degree, as many of the masters he seeks out, are likely charging him large sums as well. But ultimately, its one factor in the Traditional arts... potentially ending up extinct, due to misinformation + degradation.
All of this said... Sticking to this degree is not always optimal, nor desired. If you are being attacked by multiples.. you want to incapacitate them near instantly.. as you do not have time to "Play" around with each of them. Also, you do not want to simply get them off-balance... as they will simply come back again. And.. you will note that the Martial man was incapable of moving the Sifus arms. Even IF he had the proper training behind him... would he be able to move the Sifus arms.. if the Sifu decided to stonewall him? Basically put: It would seem that this particular method favors superior strength. IE: The larger / stronger OP has the advantages. As such, trying to keep such a fighter from getting that stuck to you, would be better than directly trying to challenge his superior strength.
All of these methods have their own unique Advantages, and Disadvantages.
@@Orimthekeyacolite Chi Sao is mainly a closed loop coordination builder drill. One aspect that people often do not get... is that you are supposed to intentionally present "Flaws" into your Chi Sao... and see if the OP feels these flaws, and reacts to them properly... or if he misses the opportunities altogether. The OP is supposed to do the same. In this way, both parties are being challenged to LISTEN... and to be able to feel and find these errors + be able to take advantage of them the INSTANT they are detected.
Imagine, if two OPs were doing Chi Sao, and neither presented any flaws? They would be rolling back and forth forever, without any ACTUAL reason... to go beyond that point.
It was never meant to be a game to see whom is SUPERIOR. It was never meant to be a Competition. Its a Mutual skill builder, when done properly.
Also, Chi Sao is not meant to be a realistic representation of actual combat. For one.. it lacks "ENTRY". In a real fight, the OP is likely going to enter with a long range kick, and go immediately into hand to hand interception, and Trapping. Chi Sao can not replicate this correctly. Also, many other hand techs and methods, can not be fully executed properly, in CS. Again, its Optimized to be a closed loop... so that both OPs get Maximum training time within this sensitivity drill (rather than having an Open-Drill... that Stops and Starts, and needs constant "Resetting").
As a result of the Ignorance about CS's meaning... the OPs tend to use it as if its a combat skill game. They rarely "Listen" to the OPs energy and Intent... and instead, try spend more time trying to brute force their way into a trap and hit. While WC can operate in a brute-force manor... such a person will not fare well when trying to do such a thing against a much larger and stronger OP. That stronger OP, will simply tense up and Stone-Wall the weaker OP... and that weaker OP wont be able to move the stronger OPs limbs. This again, is why its so critical, that you learn how to Listen for structural, positional, and vectoral.. flaws / weaknesses. You might have to be very patient, before an Opportunity presents itself.
As for the Internal Aspects of WC... Ive posted part of the info above, in the other reply. The main application of WCs internal methods, is for stability, and power generation (Fajin - explosive power). WCs punches teach the main principle of Fajin (relaxed, until moment of solid impact...then quickly tighten, and just as quickly, release). However... most WC practitioners never fully master this Skill. Most of them would have a very difficult time causing a KO from 6" distance... let alone, to be able to generate lethal forces in less than 2" of runway.
Back when I was training, I did learn and master fajin, down to inch distance. It took me maybe 3 months of daily +1hr sessions, to get to that level of expression. I also used some special equipment. After fully mastering it... it was easy to KO fighters from my near fully extended lead guard hand, to their foreheads. Less than 6" of travel, and I never needed more than 15% power levels, for an easy KO. That was with shock-absorbing MMA gloves on. Without gloves, and using even half power levels... would have been lethal at 2". Probably fully lethal at 1" with full power levels... but of course, I was never going to put that to the test.
Fajin is not just for Punches either. I used it on a Jut Sao, to deflect an MMA fighter low attack. Unfortunately, he foolishly decided to ramp up to full power, full speed... with true intent to harm. This caused my 15% power levels... to be vastly amplified, at impact. It not only stopped his attack cold... but also, nearly shattered his wristbone. Within about an hrs time, it had nearly doubled in size, and was giving his searing pains... for many nights to follow.
While Internal power can be used to make an OP go off balance... the fact is, that WC was designed to be as fast as possible, in taking out OPs. As such, we only stick long enough to know where the OPs limbs are, and then we tend to immediately deflect / pin / attack. Sticking longer, is more in line with standing-Grappling (Chi Na). But WC was designed to take on multiple soldiers... and grappling would have been too slow for that application method. Especially since the fighters they were going up against, would have been highly skilled, and could have put up quite a good fight.
sticky hand is one of the weirdest things out there. you cannot understand it from watching, you just have to find someone who knows this stuff and feel it yourself. in my opinion it is an excellent tool to teach balance and body movement. it is not practical in combat on its own but balance is still the backbone of fighting
It is a useful skill for combat too. Gloves off, it works. People block reflexively sometimes...then you can take control.
Don't knock grappling or wrestling. In a way, chi sau is grappling, is wrestling. It's a way a clincher would fight in the ring...
@@kingofaikido yep, chi sau is a form of clinch fighting. the point of it being that if you control your opponent then there isnt a lot they can do to attack you or even defend themselves. this style (my cousin is sitting in that room) doesnt work off blocking and striking simultaneously. in fact it doesnt block, you evade and stick with your hands to establish control.... then you lay into them with heavy strikes. its kind of similar to taichi sticking but thats more about appearing vulnerable with a 'square' posture and then deflecting your opponent down the apex of a 'triangle posture' such that they run into a strike. wing chuns approach to sticking is different still so at no point should you really consider this to be chi sau, despite the similarities.
sticking is a skill for entering into strking range without making yourself equally vulnerable to strikes. if you cant work your angles and control your opponent then you stand there taking it in turns to hit eachother... thats bad kung fu, and some would say bad fighting in general.
chi sau/sticking is useless to people who cant be bothered to learn how to actually fight, some people cant get further than just striking in turn and holding a guard in the most predictable manner possible such that they never bother to learn fundamental defensive skills beyond slapping someones hand away with uncoordinated parries... high level parrying is relaxed and soft, sticking to and following the strike without knocking the hand away where you lose track and just have to cover your head up in anticipation of being punched, instead of being able to proactively defend. anyone who wants to have some skill will first understand that sticking is not a technique, its a very broad concept used predominately by grapplers and clinch fighters whether they realise it or not.
I spin a stick that is my arm length and has weighted ends. It started with strictly grip changes until my thumb and wrist were hurting too much that it led to “no grip” and honestly it’s a very interesting phenomenon. One can close the eyes and be fully connected to that object even while it is not in contact with the body at all (ex. thrown in the air). I train this for entertainment but as I said it is arm length, and while I’d have to somehow find myself in a position of control over an opponents arm, if I did have that I without a doubt control your arm. The little changes in momentum at any part of the stick can be felt throughout the entire stick.
I did try something similar with a friend who honestly clearly isn’t practicing his drums when he needs to be. So started slow speed attacking him with 2 rubber covered drum sticks and he blocked instinctively, not always in a good position but when he hit a good blocking point I pushed him a little further by doing sticking hands with the drum sticks. His eyes lit up wide clearly and any excuse of the ego disappeared as his brain was hyper focused on this very small point of contact and how much control it had. It’s a wonderful exercise that demonstrates a lot about energy transfers, pivot points, and control.
I used to do fire-poi and fire-stick as well. I know what you mean. I also have a black belt in Jodo (Shindo Muso-ryu). Been twirling all my life..! They are definitely transferable skills to sticky hands... You're on the right track!
Awesome video, once again!
How was this session different than Jimmy Chow session. They both are I Liq Chuan masters. Thanks!
Great interview. Is Sifu here in the states? I'd love to try a class with him.
thank you for sharing, see so much southern mantis in this system
Are the two related? Southern Mantis and I Liq Chuan? But they look alike.
Southern Mantis is a Hakka system. Sifu's family is Hakka. Sifu's father created ILC from other styles he studied earlier. Sifu's system, ZXD reflects the current curriculum
hey I watch many of your videos on martial arts . To me I think it's always a mind game when you let the "kungfu master" show you the moves . It is always a mind game and you will always tend to follow his way , in order words, to be led by him . If you are a martial artist or just an enthusiast then don't be afraid to be a little more aggressive when you do chi sau/ sticky hands or in contact with the teacher . This way you'll know if he is legit . I am not disrespecting anyone or any martial art styles but the only way to learn is to test the teacher. Sticky hand with him as if you are in a fight like you are attacking him to see how he reacts instead of letting him lead you all the way. Anyone can achieve iron palm/hand by practicing. Therefore if the teacher shows you he can hit hard or break something, that doesn't mean he is a winner in a fight or a great teacher. My college friend years ago could cause serious bruises if anyone spar with him or just do chi sau. All he did was hit the small bag he filled with metal steel balls he carried with him everyday! So that's what I would do when I meet a teacher if I want to do the push and pull with him the way I want not the way he wants me to move .
To an extent that's right.
Whenever I have trained with a Master, Shifu or student & they say throw a punch, I make it more realistic by throwing it quite fast and straight, aiming for throat, head or chest with intent to hit the target.
If they can only show me with a slow haymaker, thats aimed a foot beside their head into space, that's not trying to contact, then I don't want to know about it!
Greeting from Malaysia!
Thank you for the high level insights. I understand know why you can combine this very good to the more softer wing tsun. Absolute Master. To high level for me :) I see also connections with Taikiken.
there's now 4? different styles that use 意 in their name. 形意拳 xingyi quan， 心意拳 xinyi quan，意拳 yiquan， 意力拳 yi li quan (i liq chuan)。The first 3 are related, is this also related to the others?
There are hundreds. Quan just means fist in Chinese and by extension describes a martial art. A vast majority of Chinese martial arts includes the word quan in their name.
No, I Liq Chuan is not closely related to the others. But of course most of the CMA use the same principles.
@@chenfamilygongfu I was talking about the 意 "yi" character. I know that quan (fist) is used in almost every style, except notably for baguazhang (8 trigrams palm). I was asking because Yi Quan (意拳) is a direct descendant of Xing Yi Quan (形意拳). I forget what the exact relation of the third one Xinyi Quan (心意拳) was, but I think it was related somehow.
@@kori228 oops
@@kori228 IIRC Xinyi is what Xingyi used to be called.
Warum erinnert mich das an Wing Chun pushing hands
Hey Martial Man, Master Sam is also a favorite of mine. He teaches the truth. It takes meditation to understand this. Human beings are all alike, perhaps animals too. Tension, relaxation, yin and yang... these are the cycles of life. It is natural and wonderful. We must train to understand this. Sung will take you a long way. Then apply sung on your mind too and your emotions. In the end, the path only gets deeper and wider until we are one with the universe, as corny as that sounds. It's true. Everyone struggles. The enlightened man does too, but he doesn't worry as much, and he 'knows' in Sam's words The WAY. It is not like MMA. It is nonviolent and contributes to long term health. It isn't for fighting only.
Every now and then you come across a martial art you've never heard of. The song and dance sounds appealing. Mesmerizing. Looks great in demonstrations with students from the same style going with the flow for the sake of the demo. Like Aikido. Or any traditional martial art with flashy moves. How would the art do in a live combat situation when the other guy is trying hard to arm-bar you or knock you out. No punches or attacks pulled. Having fighter with skills from another coach and style.
WHere's the body conditioning? The diet. All athletes need both. As do competitive fighters. Otherwise it's just "exercise". If t hat is the goal of studying that art...fine. If it's just a form of aerobic exercise for the student.
It's one thing to stand around doing sticky hands with classmates VS stepping into a ring with some one you don't know who isn't going to hold back.
Sam Chin fought successfully for several years in full contact competitions in the late 70's early 80's. As did his training partner and cousin Jimmy Heow. When he became a Selangor State Champion in 79, he moved up a weight category, so as not to have to fight his cousin. They both won their categories, Sam's longest fight lasting 40 seconds. Several of Sam Chin's close students have also fought successfully in several full contact competitions. The top student of his top student, Daria Sergeva, took the world championship title in Muay Thai (WTKA) as well as winning several other titles in Sanda, push hands etc. While ILC is not a sport, the style is well tested.
And so you've completely missed the point...
Na Ging is clear. This sifu is extraordinary.
Very interesting 🤔
Not a criticism but simply observation, both GM Chin opponents were locking up their structure in all sort of ways and that is why they were easily outbalanced
As i had the luck to work with the master directly i can tell you it is not intentional. You want to flow, and react, but the master locks your joints with very sublime forces and then takes your balance easily. We were also taught this and this is the fascinating thing about I Liq Chuan, they give you DEEP knowledge and a way to find your center (balance) and it is up to you to find your own balance and also use mindfulness to be more aware in the current moment, which is something that benefits you greatly in all of your life (in a busy supermarket;). And i came from tae kwon do, kickboxing, tai chi (a looot of years of just forms), but only I Liq Chuan started with deep rooted explanations that actually made sense. I recommend:)
According his philosophy if someone push you in the water and you can swim but I Liq Chuan philisophy say stop swiming it is the experience from the past and it is wrong you must drown.Self killing philosophy am i wrong?😁
Being touched by him more like he constantly returns the energy going to his body onto you from whatever contacts points, both hands or one hand?
I have been trained by someone who does that
Need to learn this. Where?
You can find all schools on iliqchuan.com/worldwide-classes/
You are the Bernardo Faria of the Kung Fu universe ! Great !
Hey maybe it’s possible to make an interview with Roy Goldberg?
this is more realistic about yin and young and internal chi energi...this master is a real one not showing
What’s your opinion on this system? The striking etc looks ‘unorthodox’. It’s like you’re crashing in then applying I Lig Chuan principles? Would like to know your opinion. Thanks!
Hi Mark, check out the additional footage from the interview which shows the kicks, Chin na and many more explanations into the system. They are available to watch on my website themartialman.com/members-only-videos/
THE MARTIAL MAN thanks but I have to pay to see the videos? Anyway what’s your opinion on the system. Pros and cons. Thanks!
Marc Possoff
You should check out the website and pay to become a member.
If you want to see an ILC student/instructor using ILC in multiple situations-teaching, training, sparring, combat sport-- look up Dasha/Daria Sergeeva's channel here on UA-cam. If you want to see more of Sifu from this workshop, you'll have to buy access to Martial Man's website
I attended several of Sam's seminars and trained for a while under a direct student of his. It is very good stuff! Hard to get perhaps from watching a video but once he lays his hands on you, it's over.
Well done.
How you call this force? But what happen if you use legs gravity control again it?
Very nice techniques
Him vs Adam Mizner- who wins?
Jmac is into martial arts?
Absolutely wonderful technique
does sifu ever cross legs?
The ultimate chinese martial arts "find" is a high level stylist that can actually fight using their style. Yes, their are many other benefits of training traditional martial arts but if they are not proven effective in actual combat then interest will continue to fade and the arts will inevitably die. All we have is stories of combat effectiveness but no proof. Find the proof and youll have a major, game changing story!
Deep understanding of martial art
hai suo hui li zai jin ya zai she hai she she rong te zai wang she li tang rong wang she san chin hsien wang she hai zhi tong ce te zhong xin dao li shi wang zai wang hai she wang hai she wang wang zai
true story.
I wish they demonstrate a 2 leg or one leg shoot. Or a kick towards the nuts and a boxing 1 - 2.
Kick the nuts of Sam
He Burped in to the mic
Thats verry informative I just wish you cut out the burp in 18:40 it just ruined the experience.
Thank you for this great video in going to subscribe and like.
Lol, that is your comment? Are you really that sensitive ( : Chinese have a different culture when it comes to burping etc. (:
@@Gringorn 😂 Im glad you get it… great work man 👍🏽
Will this work against Mr. Xu Xiadong?
It will work against anybody. If you just get knocked out before you do anything how is anything gonna work? Xu Xiadong is no big deal. Only promoted by fight commentary breakdown channel and South China Morning Post newspaper run by white people. He is a fake. Only choose weaker opponents to fight. You may disagree if you don't know about this conspiracy . Last month He turned down a Canadian Wing Chun masters fight proposal just because he is tall and can actually fight.
Moynul Hassan the hell do white people got to do with every god damn conspiracy theory? Look within.
What did he say at 15:05 "Not necessary everything....????
So the question was "So in combat, your strategy is making contact to control the person..?" His response was "Not necessary (or necessarily)..." "Everything, (in Chinese) Punch, Kick, Throw, Lock/Seize " ....I believe he is clarifying that superior timing, power, and distance/spacing in all ranges/phases of of movement can maintain the same control of the center, not only after contact, ..'everything' bridging, striking, grappling, etc...
Cheers 😁
It's reminds strongly to Yi Quan, although there is no grabbing in the second one when doing sticky hands
Traducir en español también soy de América gracias
Techniques to fight off a hug from a clingy person. 10 outta 10 lesson.
People tend to cling when we fight.
Grab arm, lapel etc
What is the follow up after the off balancing?
You hit them
If you can unbalance them at touch, you translate that to kicks, punches, strikes, etc. So that you destroy their structure as soon as you hit them.
意力拳 is Malay??
Now my question martial iLiq Chaun does it have communication with Wing chun Kung Fu yes or no.
I train in this art, there are WC stylists at some seminars, they seem to enjoy the exchange.
Gosh, so much wise talking, I touch you and you can't move... The proof is in the puding - show the same skill against someone unwilling to help or in UFC -- touch an opponent so he or she can't use their legs to kick your legs or take you down.
In Indonesia ( pencak silat / maenpo)..that is Ulin Mapel or Cikalong style or syahbandar
great master
"You are already boom."
I approve of this message XD
Not soft not tense but in between its called fong sau.
The Force is strong .
the problem with wing chun is that it is very demonstrative through instruction. This is why unless you know a harder style you ae making yourself a target. Bruce found this out the had way. Wing chun is no where near invincible. In fact, it was cultivated by a female so its weaknesses are inherent in her physical body. I mean if wing chun was all that then Bruce would not have had a complaint. But he found out its limitations when it came to real martial artist, like the one that ran him out of Washington state. then when he was brought down from SF by Ed parker, his brown belt beat him. Bruce lee was a phony martial artist but the best movie star martial artist in California. He was not match for what he thoguht he could intercept. That is a fool, ya'll (who died like one)
Zhong Xin Dao I Liq Chuan is not related to Wing Chun.
And do you know bruce open a wingchun school when he arrives in sf? He teached there for 9 years.. his wc even not complete yet because he only learns wc in a year.
@@Linanjaya that cannot be true according to the timeline. Who are you? He was run out of SF by the Northern Traditionalists bc he was running his mouth saying WC was martial arts and theirs was not.
This brought about the Jack Man challenge when Bruce was run out of SF and went to Oakland. And he learned wc for two years out of the three-year course.
Bruce is in hell ya'll bc he did not believe there was a God Who hated him. Just not as much as the triads who ran him out of Hong Kong. Where do you get your information?
I dont say what u say is wrong, it s just not really complete.
And no further i want to discuss this matter.
I believe u are a good reader, and an objective one.
One day if u search it well, u ll find the path.
And more knowledge will be added to u.
But what i said earlier is a true history of his.
Good luck my friend.
God speed
Interesting
Philosophy theory of martial art
It's high level Yi Quan (Da Cheng Quan) by a different name originally taught by Master Wang Xiang Zhai.
It isn't Yi Quan! They look pretty close to each other but they aren't related at all. Completely different origin and philosophie.
The pronunciation is malay?
Yes!
@@Lubaka77 what's the meaning in malay?
@@maddarkstorm5653 What happens is that it is a mandarin word, romanized using Malay spelling, and then read using English pronunciation that makes it look weird. Those of us from Malaysia are used to this practice. My family name in Mandarin is Yeh, in Cantonese is Yip, but it is written as Yap because the family dialect is Hakka, then romanized using Malay spelling.
Dont get me wrong! I respect the Masters but my question is when they are teaching the sticky hands, your opponent wont be there to do the same thing.
They will throw punches, they will go for take downs, kick or grapple. How can you translate what he is teaching when actual fights dont happen like that?
It's for what it is for. If anything doesn't work in one situation you have to learn something that works for that situation. It's all about mixing your art. That's how Wong Fei Hung did. That's how Huo Yuan Jia did.
SH is not the fight, just like one steps are not the fight. These things are avenues to understand the art. Moments in time, that’s all any training should be, a tool to grasp principle and expression. If you’re gonna fight, be neutral and experienced.
Fights start disconnected(punches kicks). But if you have 2 experienced fighters trying to block and counter that’s the beginning of sticky hands. It’s also training the energy of the art
And even non experienced fighters get kinda tangled up which is where sticky hands would would help you destroy the opponent
ZXD-ILC is not Wing Chun. The sticky hands practice is not the same
Looks a lot like Yi Qaun. Heavily influenced at least.
Sounds like Tai Chi.
God he sounded like he was talking shit, and then he touched your hands and it was obvious he doesn't walking shit! X
It is good exercise for the senior, impractical in the street
In the street fight where anything can happen, what will you do if you found yourself in this particular position?
Real martial ARTS are about self improvement, health, and passing on traditional values like respect and manners. Better people make a better society. If the only thing you care about is street fighting, that makes you a thug. If a thug attacks me, I won't waste time and energy fighting. I will shoot him with a gun. Bang Bang, one less thug, no loss to the world.
True internal stuff, and true internal burp at 18:42 !!!
so much of talented Malaysia sifu has run to USA very saddddd
lmao. More Ramlin' Fu begins @7:15
Excellent...just go forward and knock em out...very direct...not xingyi , not bagua. A bit like a taiji- xingyi combo, sort of. Very interesting.
Yes, it's a great style!
Yeah.. its all good having people that will comply with what you are teaching..... Its very different when it comes to someone who is punching your head in, train for reality not fantasy, as I always say bullshit doesn't work in a real fight.
You have not met this man, in many cases you are correct. You are very wrong this time and I do not care that you are so smug and mistaken.
The present moment is nothing and everything
James Keating brought me here
was this before or after he joined the EWTO?
What he doesn't know yet, sooner or later he will loose eveything to Kernspecht and the name of his Art wil disappear
But till then, he ll earn a lot of money like Leung Ting did...
Совсем наоборот. Это EWTO присоединилось к Илицюань. А Кернспехт является учеником Сэма. =)
I had 1 Minute Chi Sao with GM Sam Chin last week 🎉 Nice Guy 😆 ua-cam.com/users/shorts-PM_lMJOGz4?feature=share
Only footwork helps against knife . Don’t show your back and be ready to give an arm . No recipe against knife .
This similar to wing chun near enough the same
A good Kung Fu lesson video
Its great to learn and play with but do they fight? Do they have a proven history of good fighters? Has there been any great and famous boxers in this linage using this. If not can it really be called a martial art? Or is it just a set of skills that could be used in fighting... maybe....just hasnt been proven yet?
Not clear what his father studied....shed did he learn that he later taught in the group?what did the group study,from whom?it certainly had some influence ..does any one here know?
The history of the style is on the website.
"Chin Lik Keong is the Founder of the system. He studied martial arts from several masters including Sifu Lee Sum training Lee Style, Sifu Len training Phoenix Eye (the striking of meridian points), and his last Sifu was Lee Kam Chow training Feng Yang Lu Yi. Some people called it Lu Yie Pa Kua, Hsing-I Pa Kua or Liew Mun Pai (nomadic clan)."
I don't think that I could learn from this guy. He has sone good skills but I can't understand anything he says. Too bad.
No no, you learned everything he seemed to have to teach. When asked about striking his response of "everything" seemed forced & wasn't followed up by any direct demonstrations of the techniques.....because there aren't any, I suspect. Perfect chance to show them wasn't taken. Why?
lots of esoteric talk - unfortunately hoods don't respect these nice philosophies...that beer bottle is coming for your head innit whilst his girlfriend's rottie is chewing your ankle off...
Real martial ARTS are about self improvement, health, and passing on traditional values like respect and manners. Better people make a better society. If the only thing you care about is street fighting, that makes you a thug. If a thug attacks me, I won't waste time and energy fighting. I will shoot him with a gun. Bang Bang, one less thug, no loss to the world.