C-17 Globemaster III Air-to-Air Refueling Mission (Tactical Takeoff/Landing)
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- I had the honor of documenting a C-17/KC-135 air-to-air refueling mission performed by a very knowledgeable, friendly, and dedicated flight crew based in March Air Reserve Base located in Riverside County, California (452nd Air Mobility Wing). This video demonstrates the basic functions of the C-17 and what it takes to refuel such a large aircraft in-flight. Aircraft data is as follows:
US Air Force Boeing C-17 Globemaster III Nr. 55139 - 452nd AMW
Many thanks to the men and women of the United States Air Force and especially the wonderful people at March Air Reserve Base for making this video possible. I hope to bring inspiration to the aviation community and demonstrate the hard work and efforts of our armed forces.
Ryan Bomar who runs an amazing Aviation UA-cam Channel was covering footage in the KC-135 during this mission. You can see his footage here:
• KC-135R Flight Experie...
Click here to see the C-17 getting refueled from the KC-135 perspective: ua-cam.com/video/tThbylucPA0/v-deo.html
Thanks for that. Was looking for one
@@lordnarzi4503 No problem :)
I got laid off in June 11, I was CENTER build parts cage.i was a parts person for this BIG BIRD. I ENJOYED my time helping to get this big girl made and all of TLC that I had to give her. USAF vet
Michael Homchick That’s so cool you had a hand in keeping her in operation.
Proud to say I helped build the C17 . Helped deliver the last ship Delivery Ramp Support 2015 Nov 15 , production doors closed 2015 Nov 30
Paul Rees That’s so awesome! What an honor to have a hand in making such an awesome aircraft. Sadly I missed out on all the fanfare with the last C-17 leaving LGB.
And I love it, I love it, I love it so very much! You and your folks did an amazing job and you can be very proud of yourself and your folks at Boeing and this aircraft is simply one of the best aircraft's in the world! Sure I don't fly it personally but I fly the legendary and most majestic aircraft ever in the world - the Boeing 747-400F/747-400BCF but to see this gorgeous aircraft flying is really fascinating and astonishing and - in a manner of speaking - I am a bit jealous of people who can fly this aircraft! So much for this and have a great day and enjoy the time and stay safe out there and take care of yourself and your family and lovely greetings from Captain Sarah Sutter 🙋💖✈️👍😍
I was stationed in Charleston and have a video on my channel of the last jet being flew in to jb Charleston from long beach
Worked as a Flight Dispatcher at LGB (1987-2002) an was a part of some of the flight test and deliveries.
@@sarahivsutterb747 - Captain...congrats on you flying the Queen of the Skies! I wish I could fly a plane! The only thing that I can fly...is a kite, if that!!
Brings back memories of Loadmastering on C141's out of Norton in the 80's and 90's. And my wife was a nurse at March back then. Now our son is a boomer on the new KC-46 and loving it! Keep passing the torch!
I never got to fly on the C-17. I spent over 3yrs on C-130 (Little Rock AFB), 15yrs C-141 (Charleston, Norton, & Travis AFB's), then 5yrs the KC-10's out of Travis. All as a Flight Engineer. Big time memories air refueling. God Bless them all...
Renaissance Man Wow you have a very nice portfolio of aircraft you worked on. Those KC-10s are really sharp looking aircraft. The tri-jets are hard to come by these days. Thanks for your service.
My younger brother was a pilot on C-130 out of Little Rock I'm the mid 70's. Also flew C-17's and KC-10's and C-5A's. Retired Lt General C. A. Kelly. You might know him.
@@kevinkelly1523 I knew a LTC Kelly, but can you tell me what squadron he belonged to & years? I was at Little Rock AFB from '78-'81, Charleston '81-83, Norton '83-'88, Travis '88-'98. Thx
@@bodega01 Christopher was at Little Rock, Oct ‘75. - July ‘81, he was with the 61st. Tactical Airlift Squadron, later, tactics officer, 314th Tactical Airlift Wing.
@@kevinkelly1523 I was a Flight Engineer with the 62nd. 61st (Basic) & 62nd (Advance) were Tac training on the C-130. I then went on to the 50th (Red Devils) where I started my TDY's. Miss those days.
*YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME...SO MANY OF US WATCH THESE VIDEOS WITH THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE AND THE LIKE... WE LOVE YOU GUYS!!!*
Man,I remember those combat landings and take off in Baghdad! I like the Tactical Landings, but that take-off were WHEWWW!! Felt it in the Belly!
Rode in the C-17 from FT Bliss/Biggs AAF back in 2003 to Kuwait for OIF. The long ride like that was cold and boring but kinda fun! GREAT VIDEO, thanks for sharing!!!
armypilot71 I would imagine not as pristine insulation between the outside and the cabin compared to conventional passenger jets. Although a drawn out flight, sounds like you had some quality time with the C-17 :) Glad you enjoyed the vid.
Truly one of our greatest sport planes in the heavy lift category in my opinion, must be an awesome flying machine...
johnnylogan22 I agree! One of the most agile planes for its size that I know.
Love this video! I live about 12 miles south of March ARB and I see these guys going overhead on their final all the time. It never gets old for me.
468string Glad you enjoyed the vid! You’re lucky to see these birds flying over your house. Not as much luck in the “valley” here except for the few that come into BUR.
Charlotte NC airport just recently took on 5 C-17s. I live under the flight path of the runways and this plane is an amazing sight. I love how big and fat its is when the dirty the aircraft up for landing.
The C-17 Globemaster III is a great aircraft and the crews who fly them have to be the best in the world as they maneuver their aircraft to their destinations and refuel in midair. I worked on and flew on the C-141's while stationed at the old Norton AFB, and also on the C-130's and C-5's. I even got to work on a DC-8 while stationed in South Korea and some Navy C-130's.
Sidney Mathious You definitely have a cool portfolio of aircraft you worked on. How cool is it that you got to work on a DC-8. Those engines could really scream.
@@LoveJT8D They was really nice airplanes and I enjoyed working on them and the Boeing 747's.
Sidney mathious you have such a rich career
I grew up going to MAFB as a dependent and then was stationed there in the 90s before it closed and became MARB. Later served in the Reserves. Great basse. Great people and great times!
just love this aircraft.
had the pleasure to watch it take off at the end of AeroIndia 2017 very close to the end of the runway.and it was one of the best feelings I ever had.. the roar of the F117 engines was amazing.wish I could have gone inside it and see it up close
Anant Gautam Awesome! Those engines sure pack a punch. End of the runway is the perfect location :)
Brings back memories from years ago. Spent time with the 146th Airlift Wing out of Channel Islands. California Air National Guard baby!!!
Leo Ibanez Awesome!
ANG . . . Initially went active . . . based - Minot AFB. After a 7 year break, enlisted Mass NG. Went to college, 3 miles away. Infantry however, much different mission than the Air Force ! 🇺🇸
Great admiration to the men and women of the US military airforce.
Norma Mimosa Absolutely! I’m glad to see this video project bringing joy and insight to the public to see all of the practice these crew members go through to keep our Air Force at its best.
My favorite plane of all time. When ask if you could fly any plane in the world, most would say a F-22 or F-14 or Mig 29 or even a the SR71. Not me. It would be this, followed by a 747-8 then the Antonov An-225 and so forth. Size and power with high performance is my thing. Great job on this video
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed the video. The larger passenger/cargo jets are definitely majestic birds to watch.
Dimebag Dio Kilmister we have the same list. Haha. I fly a 777-300er now, but the c17 is awesome.
@@LoveJT8D imagine putting the ge genx on this bad boy …
Just another day at the office !
Stay safe guys and THANK YOU for your service and sacrifices .🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Absolutely amazingly awesome production! What a great ride, but also what a great job of editing and all on your part to make this mega-production happen. Man, that was a great day!
Thanks! it was definitely a most awesome day and still seems surreal seeing your plane floating along right next to ours.
Always love coming back to watch videos in my favorites. Wonderful job on this one, still a great watch
Hey man, much appreciated! Such excellent memories on that project. Gotta get back into a rhythm of posting some content here. Even in quarantine, it's easy to lose motivation haha. Hope all is well with you.
LoveJT8D so far, so good. Still getting out there to film every now and then..
Drivers really working the stick kinda surprised how much motion was input. Thanx, Great bird. GO AIR FORCE. 👍👍😎
Bob P Can only imagine the level of concentration going on at that point.
I would of LOVED to have that opportunity... Absolutely, amazing! Thank you for this!
Daniel Hill No problem, and thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Great to see and hear about the C-17 Globe Master and I just wanted to say that I have a friend of mine who's son is flying the C-17 in the Airforce and he loves his job flying and serving his country as a Pilot. I love the Veiws from the cockpit and it's great to be aboard flight and I'm going to be enjoying it all
Bernard Anderson That’s awesome! Your friend’s son must really enjoy flying this plane.
I saw this glorious playing at an airshow and it has been my favorite ever since.
Karen have a look at the difference between the C17 and the Antinov there is so much more work to do with the Antinov
Karen Ahmed Glad you’re a fan of the C-17. They are remarkable aircraft 🙂
Showing off his STOL, huh? I like the bug scrambling to find his seat.... banzai into that landing..... landing smooth as a baby's behind..... Great work USAF, and great filming, LoveJT8D!
Indeed. A seat harness was definitely necessary on this ride ;) As soon as I saw that bug in my frame, I knew instantly it would add some suspense!
I know it probably doesn't seem like a big deal to fly for them, but these pilots are so skilled.
Dusty O'Meara Agreed 100%! Such cool maneuvers they can perform with this bird.
That KC got closer pretty fast! Kudos. Best regards
Daniel Carneiro I think I sped up that part ;) Glad you enjoyed the vid.
Absolutely fantastic Flight and I'll be back on the next flight
Bernard Anderson Thanks! Glad you enjoyed.
In 1991 I flew into Kuwait with TWO D-10 Caterpillar Dozers in the belly of the C-17, Just an amazing aircraft and Air crew.
Mike Youngblood That’s really awesome. I bet you can just feel the sheer power of this bird when it’s loaded with cargo like that. Did you pilot the flight?
3:49 Yakking on the loudspeaker through the headset microphone. Awesome!
Incredible aircraft.
J RA Absolutely! Such an agile bird for its size.
March AFB was my first duty base from 1973 - 1975. They had B-52s and 135s back then.
Keith McFaul Awesome! Those B-52s are absolute beasts.
I’ve put a lot of work into this very aircraft over the years!
Awesome! Glad you had an opportunity to work with this aircraft. For a cargo bird, it’s a unique one.
@@LoveJT8D I work KC-135s now.
Awesome video ! Can't believe how quick it stopped !!
david hunt Same! Those brakes are beasts.
Great edit 👍 March AFRB has gone through so many changes and I’m happy they didn’t close this base. Thank you to all the Men. And women that service in the armed forces.
Whooaaa. You stopped so fast. Wow
BluSki I believe within 1000 feet was the target. Very fast stop indeed.
Incredible machine.
Absolutely! So agile for it's size.
Thanks very so much. Very great video. The sound is fantastic. Its one of my favorite videos.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Holy smokes what a machine!
Old Timer It’s a beast 😎
Awesome! Did anybody else notice the audible warnings sound a lot like that of the MD-11?
incheon yeah! Because this aircraft was builded by McDonnell Douglas :)
We did a summer stint at March w this unit, back in 84 , 507th comm from Tinker
I love how that giant thing has a rollout that looks about as long as a C-172
Brent Taylor Art The power and performance these planes have for their size is just amazing.
A TRULY AMAZING VIDEO! Thanks very much.
cherifbar Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the vid.
Great video! One of your best!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
I find military cargo airplanes fascinating. They're part of both worlds - many things are very military-style, while at the same time many things remind you very much of civilian big airplanes. Like having a HUD and a standard set of Boing autopilot controls at the same time. Do they use paper charts in 2020 or did the military transition to electronic flight bags like their civilian counterparts did in the last few years?
GeFlixes As far as I can tell it’s a mix, but I can say that paper charts still seem to be an essential tool. I filmed the briefing of another C-17 mission which involved Veterans Day ceremonial flyovers, and all crew were reviewing paper charts prior to the flight. That’s the reason why I like military cargo because I’m such a big enthusiast on passenger airliners. It really seems to fit the category.
I refueled many C17s. The jet is fast and can move quickly in the AR envelope. Fun times had by all.
Fantastic video. Travelling 737 today in Australia had the recording on back of seat Groundspeed, altitude, degrees outside etc...interesting
Nancy Hobson Thank you! Glad you liked the video. Sounds like the camera view on the 737 seat back made your flight a little more interesting.
@@LoveJT8D Yes it did. But the people on the flight were interesting too. Mainly geriatrics and the young. All returning to Queensland JUST BEFORE the border was closed.
Nancy Hobson Stay safe out there!
@@LoveJT8D Will do - between dodging viruses!
Really interesting film. I was surprised how many bits of paper they still use. I understand they probably need to practice with bits of paper but you would think stuff like that would be on a tablet etc.
Every Huey pilot in the world is smiling. They finally put a stick in the wing wipers hands!
nvdwarriorLtc Haha, I didn’t think about it that way but true!
@@LoveJT8D Great video sir, we old Huey drivers just can't resist teasing the gas station aviators along with the U-Haul C-17 jocks. I think the Air Force gave them a stick so all those F-16 jocks would feel at home when they transferred them over...ouch...that hurt. Thanks again, a high quality video is always great to watch.
Great job Philip! You are a true artiste when it comes to film making. :-)
Thanks so much! Hopefully entertaining the AV crowd one video at a time :)
Üpppüä
Ain't nothing like jumping out of a C17 and getting hit by the blast of those massive turbines.
Chad Nordstrom I bet that’s quite a rush to get that extra boost after jumping.
Approaching like a charm 👍
Huh, was this some sort of media event or something ? What an interesting experience.
Also bonus points for the co-pilot at 8:30, dude's controlling the plane using The Force.
Ramash440 Haha, yeah you can even use The Force with those flight sticks. Yes, this was a media event.
great another big plane that I will daydream of flying
Go make it happen!
just awesome video
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.
my pleasure
Я как понимаю это был тренировочный полёт ?
What a amazing military Aircraft that can carry so much weight and fuel load and I would love to know how many pounds of fuel on taxi and takeoff to climb cruise power settings before leveling off to get there top Cruise speed at FLIGHT LEVEL and is the flight controls more sensitive than the yoke
Bernard Anderson I’m not very familiar with those specifications but hopefully someone can jump in and answer. Thanks for watching.
Also the C-17 has short -Field landing at its best because I've seen this happen
Bernard Anderson I saw one do a short landing and it really scared the hell out of me as it did a big dive just before landing perfectly. I thought it was crashing !
I'm amazed at the speed and volume of fuel that is dispensed through that fuel line...
Yeah the process is quite efficient on time. During this mission I believe it was just quick connects for practice and not sure if actual fuel was actually going through the line. Quite possible there was some fuel passing through though.
How long would a refueling usually take? I realize it would depend on the volume. Is the process automated in anyway.
I'm guessing that in order to get a ride like this, they must be of significance.
Love that aeroplane
Rob Cross Definitely an awesome aircraft.
4:35 - I wonder how long the bug held on?!
Crooked Halo Haha, probably aborted the mission without clearing the runway :)
That was pretty awesome.
I want to do that ... been a childhood dream
8:35 That guy has to be a magician
@Yazeed Alzahrani if the captain moves his joystick or whatever, the first officer's stick will also move. That's why its moving even though he's not touching it
@@tine2115 wooosh
I thought the area looked familar. i am originaly from Riverdide city whicb is close March air base which is now an air reserve base. MFAB used ti be SAC base with B52's based there in the pasf.
Oh awesome! I'm sure those B52s made for some great plane spotting in the area.
@@LoveJT8D yeah it was awesome to see and hear those b52's. I wS in elementry school during tbe vietnam war and the b52 activity at march was busy. anx then Norton air base wzs about 25 miles from marcb. norton wD Mac base so i saw msny c141 cargo planes and sometimes some C5a planes there. in the 90's i usex to fix fax machines and was always going to norton to fix the fax machines on base.
Wow, flying with only one PFD must be fun ;)
Actually there's more than one PFD. The pilot and copilot each have their own full-time stowable HUD PFD mounted on top of the glareshield. Each of the four Multifunction Displays (MFD) below the glareshield can also display the same PFD information on a selectable format.
Interesting note too is the callouts sound like theyre from a mcdonnell flightdeck
A Nelson McDonnell Douglas was the original manufacturer of this aircraft until Boeing bought them out. 👍
Hmmm! Positive rate of climb, no runway remaining? Anyway, I do appreciate the footage.
No runway remaining is single engine mentality. When you've got more than one engine you normally bring it up as soon as a positive rate is established. There are times when we intentionally leave the gear down for brake or strut cooling but it appears that they forgot. It's like Pavlov's dog, if no one ever calls positive rate then no one calls gear up. That would never ever happen to us would it...🤫😎
Those are some serious bank angles
Joshua Diaz The C-17 can practically simulate moves from a Red Bull Air Race 😎
Awesome video! Got 2 questions ahah:
- You left the gear down during the initial accel before pitching up again, what's the purpose of that?
- I noticed but I might be wrong, the airspeed on your (middle shared PFD) is increasing from below rather than from above, right ?
Thanks and safe flight guys!
Thomas Jn I'm just the camera guy so nowhere near as knowledgeable as the crew here to answer your questions. I heard there is a reason for the gear down but not sure what that is. Hope someone can jump in and answer. I filmed another C-17 flight where the gear was left down for a while as well.
Any idea what the vertical rate was on the initial climb out? Looked like a lot more than 1800fpm. Impressive!!!!
John Mullen Not sure of the exact vertical rate. There were a couple G's to be felt but I'll let someone else weigh in who knows the C-17 climbing limits (mostly empty). Definitely impressive!
Rgr, I know they're spec'ed for an 1800fpm climb so that has me pretty curious. Definitely one impressive aircraft and awesome job on the footage!
Most of the bigger cargo and bomber planes
have a yoke. Why does the C-17 have a stick?
Paul Specht It’s a lengthy forum but some of the responses in this link provide some insight as to why the C-17 may have been designed with the stick: www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1026217
Wow good 👍
From a operations standpoint, how does this aircraft compare to its C5 big brother?
orgcoast You know I’m not sure, but hopefully someone can weigh in who has worked on both. My guess is the C-17 is more agile than the C-5 in its maneuvering capabilities.
Ain't nuttin better than flying, leaving the earth and manipulating a beautiful machine that is there for your beckon and call.. She, the ship, will treat you well if you treat her the same.!! GO Air Force.. Heavy Lift!!
Scott Utah Well said!
@@LoveJT8D Pilot to a Pilot I suppose.. TY for the thumbs up
What was the glide slope , landing was so high
ASHWATH ASTHANA I’m not sure about the glide slope. The descent was tactical in nature and most likely VFR at that point. I’m not sure how much they were relying on a glide slope indicator at that point.
Serious brakes. they are not playing.
Yeah, the braking performance was out of this world! Enough braking to make a car do somersaults for miles.
They left the gear down for quite a while on T/O, is this standard?
j16out I’m pretty sure there’s a reason for it. I filmed another C-17 flight where the gear was left down slightly longer.
@@LoveJT8D i think the pilot forgot retract the gear, is almost mandotory "positive climb and gear up".
@@LoveJT8D Fair enough, thanks
ooooppppsssss.........raise that gear dude!
maxjet38 I could be wrong, but I believe there was a reason they let the gear hang down a while. In another C-17 mission I documented, there was a similar delay in raising the gear.
@@LoveJT8D Maybe, but the title is "tactical T/O", which implies once you have positive rate, clean the aircraft from any forms of drag. Looking at the video one more time, it's very obvious. I guess we will never know. Great video still.
Remember when, shortly, after 9/11, Taliban and al Qaeda prisoners were transported on one of these beasts to Guantanamo Bay? Ha! They had to sit there for about 30 hours and stare at Ol' Glory!! SERVED THEM RIGHT!! BTW, lucky camera man who got to sit on the flight deck!!
Niklas Enblom Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. Never dawned on me that it was a C-17 that flew that mission to Guantanamo. Definitely a fitting decision with the location of the flag and all!
Respect!
Павел Овчинников Absolutely!
Sweet video. You ever been in a C-130?
Ryan World War II History Buff Guy 582 Thanks! Never been in a C-130 before but would love to document one someday. Such an awesome looking aircraft.
0:27
as a c-130 load master, this makes me feel pretty damn small lol.
reyco1987 😆
Nice video! Does anyone know why the gear retraction was so late? Hot brakes?
Thanks for watching! I can only assume the gear went up when it did, as part of the tactical takeoff procedure.
Josh good point . Seems to just raised it late. good eye . I noticed that too . Usually its raised right on take off
So maybe they just forgot, a little out of routine?
+Josh McCorquodale you need to have it up by a certain speed . They had plenty of time .but it was a late raise .
Yeah, I was just thinking about the drag and therefore inefficiency created from it
Did they ever connect for refueling, or was it just practice?
wfdix1 I believe most of the connects were practice. It’s possible the last connect was wet but not 100% sure.
What style Oakleys are those ?
Any "Disco cockpit" happenings in you're part of the world?
Mick Martin Hmm. Not quite familiar with that term. Something to do with the cockpit instruments?
@@LoveJT8D Yeah an Aussie RAAF crew over Baghdad had a complete glass display failure whcih caused all the panels to flick through all the display pages at rapid succession. Crew had to fly by i Pad at night and without brakes! The Oz Capt recently received a citation for his and the crew's stellar work.
Mick Martin Whoa! That’s a crazy series of events. Talk about true improvisational flying.
👑 man
Malik Nhoeh 💪😎✈️
5:17 sound buzzsaw vs four engines A340-300 👍😊👂🏻🎶🎶🎶🎶
There can never be too many engines and buzzsaw :)
They are the same used on the 757
remember to thank the big plane for giving the extra fuel
anyone knows what's the model of pilot sunglasses?
saeed ahadzadeh I actually don’t but hopefully someone can weigh in for you. Thanks for checking out the vid!
Love jt8D thank you
A little late on the gear?
Why some aircraft are using flying boom instead of hose and drogue. Some of the adv of hose and drogue would be it is easy to connect, distancing itself from the tanker, and no physical touch of the boom to the aircraft body.
Lots of experience (brass) up front.
orgcoast Absolutely!
Damn, that was short stop.
OsiTech O Some of the drivers in SoCal could use those brakes too :)
Why so late after take off did they retract the gear?
thats the same voice from the MD-80 series!
Awesome! I believe McDonnell Douglas starting producing these planes in the 1990's, so definitely a lot of Douglas influence even though the aircraft wears Boeing's name now.
Boeing #1
Maykel De la torre Yes and Yes!
Built by McDonnell Douglas in Long Beach CA
That was all hand flying?
Hi Noel, I think for the most part it was mostly hand flying. There may have been a stretch during our cruise out to the coast where the autopilot was engaged but I'm not 100% certain. It is definitely refreshing to see hand flying on larger modern aircraft.