simply put - this GA stuff needs to be taken out of the players hands. it's been abused for years - there needs to be a neutral committee doing the GA's
100% should be run by people like Tom, Zin, Seth, Sam, etc. these guys are scared of anything being different because they don’t know how it will affect them. It’s just pathetic. Y’all have a franchise league but want the players to control it. That’s not how a franchise league works. NFL, NBA, NHL, etc. ALL ARE NOT RUN BY THE PLAYERS. Use fucking pistols only at this point it’s ridiculous
it’s a gentlemen’s agreement not real rules, there’s no rules or anyway that it could ever be regulated. the players are agreeing to not use certain things between themselves. the CDL can stop that in anyway. like i get what you’re saying but there’s no way they could ever stop players from all agreeing to not use something.
Or when they say only three people cared enough to vote on the sniper and that people who don't care should just auto-ban it. Surely if they don't care enough, it should be auto-in?? Just banning to ban at this point lmao
Seriously. And at that the Saug is crazy on MnK, it's just mid on controller. Having a few dumb biased console players depicting GAs for everyone is completely idiotic.
actually so braindead lol the dlc guns if balanced can add much needed variety to the game. like no one wants the krig in but the saug would be pulled out on the few hills... adding variety
Where did I say that? I only use that to the argument that people call the game stale without these guns? While my point is that even if it’s in it would be used…
@@KuavoKenny you say that till someone does and changes the game. in Bo3 no one used anything but the m8 for months. Then someone started using the Man o war as flex players and it became a viable pick even when the m8 wasn't banned. Yall literally kill any sort of creativity cod comp used to have. Like Phizzurp trying different shit in SnD and in tourneys was the reason I fell in love with cod comp and yall are legit killing it because yall basically just want the most bar bones version of cod.
That’s a poor argument though. The entire purpose of GA’ing any weapon is bc it “should not” be allowed. If it’s not good, simply do not ban it and if someone randomly chooses to situationally use it then great, if not then also fine. But the purpose should be to prevent unfair weaponry from being used.
that *is* kenny’s argument, though - and he admits he made a mistake w/ the Saug. but in a game where everyone’s looking for the advantage, it ends up being a small pool of weapons anyway because they cannot compete w/ the meta (sniper argument ♻️)
Players should not be allowed to set the rules for the games they are playing. That is insane. Imagine the NFL teams with bad O Lines banning the other teams from blitzing. Its insane
Need a GA board that listens to both the community and the pros. Krig is nuts OP, snipes aren’t OP especially with no attachments except for Protocol, but 1 snipe for 1 round is genius and should be tried for scrims
Yes OpTic was the only team who didn't think it was good enough so they were undecided. Every other team voted it out meaning there was really no point in OpTic voting against it. Ken should've cleared that up
Zerostein, he LITERALLY said that it was a mistake and the only reason they did it was bc its a DLC weapon. Room temperature IQ dont get it is not a surprise😂
Keep sniping, it's soooooo entertaining to watch. Sniper locks down half of the map? Throw a damn smoke grenade like tf, learn a nade spot idk. You are the pros find a work around don't just ban an entire play style that allows for awesome highlights because ONE bomb site on a map is op.
They already voted it out with Zoomaa, shits chalked. 2nd year of no sniping highlights that have the possibility of being clipped for social media marketing purposes, pros are too deep in their bubble to differentiate what is best for viewership & the CDL in the long run vs their own personal short term bias
Here’s the thing though. This is the worst sniper season we’ve probably ever had. The ads isn’t that good compared to other years, some of the worst hit markers of all time, the flinch is terrible, and the movement is wild. Yes I understand that smokes are OP. I see that point. But part of me feels like even if we had smokes we wouldn’t get the sniper back. The guys who decide these just say stuff to make the community not as mad. The sniper in mw2 was way better than bo6 and people half the time didn’t even use smokes properly. They used them for hitting routes anyway. Some more food for thought.. Sniping is massive for the cod community. There’s people who only snipe. Having this in comp and having younger generations find the move for competitive and sniping is huge. I know it doesn’t matter to overall viewership but imagine how crazy the clips would go, and how many people won’t get bored in S&D. We already have to watch control. Half the time the S&D matches are super boring too. As always love you Ken and the Green wall. Just my thoughts. As someone who has been playing since cod 4 I just wish we’d have seasoned vets or retired pros in charge of this instead of a lot of the younger players. Let’s get another ring this year #GreenWall
Shotzzy used the grav DLC gun at the end of MW2019, specifically on azher cave. Until the cdl makes the GA list not the pros there will always be bias.
There should be retired pros being the ones to decide what gets GA'd. However, I definitely believe current pros should have like a panel where they can give their opinions and arguments, but at the end of the day current players shouldn't be voting. My only fear is that even if its retired pros voting, I hope they can remain neutral and not vote in favor for people they like.
Why shouldn’t the current pro vote if there the ones that are playing professionally, why would they not be allowed to make the choice on what they want to use
@@BrandonMedeiros-px2cv because at the end of the day, its mostly for entertainment/for the viewers. Its like in sports how players dont make the rules but can have a large influence on them. Also because there would be a big bias from players and they would vote for what benefits their team instead of what is actually broken (like how they did with the snipers)
I don’t buy it, if the GPR was good enough to be a flex gun in the meta it would get GA’d almost immediately. And pros would say there’s 8 of them on the map even though that’s not the optimal way to play the game
What's the difference between the saug & the other weapons that are allowed & people don't use because they are bad? If it's bad, it doesn't need to be GA'd, run it & lose. If we GA all the bad guns, we will never have another iconic nade HBR moment 😂
the difference between a 'dlc gun' and them buffing and nerfing guns with every update is basically nothing - same with the 'guns no one is using'. There is no reason for the results of the GA votes not to be public. Not allowing the 'community to sway you' is also bs and a real reason why the cod scene is shrinking. Not hating but i expected a lot more from such a great player.
If weapons aren’t being used, it makes no sense to GA. You take away those rare occurrences of variety or strats, I do agree that ranked and scrim should be separate. There does need to be weapon buffs tho so we can see more variety in these matches
They need to find the best balance for making it as competitive as possible while also entertaining for the viewers and growing the scene. Everyone i try to get into watching the competitive side of cod all complain that they watch the same thing every game with no variety.
this is why i think pick and ban should come back. i know people didn’t like it when it was in bo3 but if you really don’t want to deal with something you just ban it for the match. it also makes people actually get good with multiple ars and smgs. i know it’s an unpopular opinion but it just makes too much sense if there’s gonna be this much of an argument for ga’s
I agree with the smokes thing because that's how smokes should be used and snipes should always be in, if possible. The problem is that, even when smokes have been decent, pros rarely use them to make a cross they end up at their feet to play their life. So just put the snipes in lmao
Respectfully Ken, you’re wrong about pros not using DLC guns. I vividly remember Dylan Envoy using the RAM on Gun Runner back in MW19. I also remember when Scump played Warzone with Swagg, he said pros tested the grau in scrims. Those were BOTH DLC guns
Cod be focusing on SMG's and AR's to much that they be forgetting to buff the Snipers to Snipe in even longer range then AR's. just wish they brought Snipers back. they be Nerfing Reloading and Utility use to much that makes Trading to common in game. something unique is that they should bring back Crit damages like from MW2 but allow AR's to do it mid range while SMG's do it in close Range.
I don't really understand the point of GA's personally. People agree a gun is OP so GA it, then everyone just uses the next best sub/ar. It seems more like players preference is one meta gun, instead of just appreciating the meta as is. The knife GA I've heard about is crazy though. Snipers out also doesn't really make sense to me either, if there's one thing that I think would be better, it would be to GA aim assist out, maybe even kbm if it's gonna be too much of an issue, or take a leaf out of Rainbow 6's ranked and have everything allowed with each player having 1 vote to ban each. Make for some super interesting counters and strats giving the entire scene another dimension to it.
What needs to happen, is they need to bring back the voting system that they had in Black ops 3. Imo, Blops 3 was goated with ranked play, being able to choose what map to veto, which weapon to veto, tacts. Like come on. This is the only game that I know of, where you have a limited choice for the weapons to use in order to play ranked.
The point is even if one person uses it then it's enough to not ban it, especially if it's bad and we don't see it a lot GAs aren't entirely on devs Xm4 and krig made sense Saug, knife, hell even ordinance gloves just because skyz was nasty with a grenade is crazy
GA’s should be allowed in very rare circumstances. Strats and counters SHOULD be a prominent part of the game. All of these GA’s are dummying down the game .
Ban OP weapons, not scenario weapons. If keeping a gun in would result in 8 players using the gun at all times, ban it. Otherwise, it is a ‘scenario weapon’ which can be OP but only in certain scenarios. Example, If a Saug is trash in all situations except 1 hill, and everyone uses the Saug on that hill, that is a good thing. It requires players to know when a gun is favorable and also requires them to be good with said gun. Competitive has taken out all situational decision making and banned them under the guise of ‘skill gap’. Additionally, GA’s should be handled by the CDL and players should only be able to overrule a weapon ban if ALL players vote to do so. That’s my two cents.
The only thing that I want to comment on is he says other guns aren’t being used because they’re not good enough but then if a gun is good enough it gets GAd. So what then
The amount of double talk from the pros including Kenny who constantly lies to protect his team he originally said optic didn’t even vote on the saug then admitted that his team didn’t care and since it wasn’t helping them he voted it out optic is playing the same game the rest and it’s going to ruin the scene
Why is GAs not live so the community can hear what’s going on we don’t want to find out out from X what’s GAd the GA system should not be in the hands of the pros as well it should in the hands of the coach’s and retired pros it’s that simple every dam year we getting the same old format like if the movement wasn’t in the game the would definitely hit the lowest it’s ever been
Players GAing things has been a mistake every year there’s no sniper in the game. A bunch of kids who haven’t touched grass or seen the real world crying about fairness is insane. This year is even worse with the obvious targeted GAs. Embarrassing league.
If the viewers are becoming disinterested in the ban choices then it needs to be taken out of the pro players choice/control. I’m sorry but this is entertainment, not pure competition. If we can’t see certain guns that the community loves from their favorite players then what’s the point. Unless you have the majority comp fanbase community supporting a GA, it shouldn’t be allowed by the teams.
I hope the CDL just mandates that snipers are allowed idk why people are just terrified of dashy or simp or beans pulling out a sniper just because they don't have any good snipers on their team then it isn't fair for teams that have good snipers to use it all, Teej's only argument was beans is a shit player but he's too good with a sniper and he doesn't want to be killed by shit players
Kenny, smokes and snipers go hand in hand????? We had smokes last year in mw3?! Where were the snipers at?! Nah, pro credibility is at it's lowest point it's ever been. I as a casual hated it last year in ranked because I saw 6 snipers in a map. CDL, you ain't going to see 6 snipers on a map. You guys can work around 1 sniper!
“it was a step in the right direction that we tried DLC guns” “They shouldn’t be allowed regardless because they’re DLC” Doesn’t sound like you made any progress there mate as you’ve just said we tried it but we shouldn’t really bother or allow it because it’s DLC Times change, stop living in the past - there’s no good logic to say all dlc guns should be GA’d gameplay wise
Ars arent op its just that way when the game drops cuz ppl are getting used to movement. Then by the time ppl get good w subs everything is ga already. Like xm4 isnt that op if the good subs are allowed too
Why are dlc guns out every year when we’re playing with DLC maps that are coming in, regardless of jt they’re old maps. It’s 100p better to add old maps when they come in so some guns could be good. Not the krig tho lmao Snipes should be in for sure
You dont think there is any value in keeping comp as close to the normal game as possible? Why are you BANNING guns that arent viable in the first place? It sounds like you have a fix for the sniper but you still want it gone for no reason...
Its crazy how no other esport has its rules decided by the "pros" but this one feels like its special in someway. Its wild how they gatekeep the scene to their own little skill sets lmfao. Kenny is legit one of the few chill and reasonable pro's with decent takes on this BS. HOWEVER 2 gun meta because you banned all the other good guns. Acting like theres only 2 good guns and the rest are ass when you've banned 90% of the game is frankly hilarious
im fine with them GA'ing shit but bad weapons shouldnt be GA'd only things that are unfair, also GA's shouldnt transfer over to ranked unless its a broken gun like the krig etc
Legitimately brain dead pro’s at the minute. By default everything is in. Only if something is god like and dominating games should it go to vote. To get it out takes majority vote. If a gun if not good. Banning it is honestly mind blowing. Also you’re playing for entertainment, without viewers and fans you get no salary, have no careers. Make the game play interesting. The devs aren’t helping with the maps but the pros aren’t helping just as much
One thing i disagree with is when ken says "DLC guns shouldn't even be allowed", Ok so are the maps. The guns would've been in the game from the start, but cause they need content to add to the games life cycle, they bring them in at a later date. The mindset that a gun being added to the game shouldn't be allowed is crazy work. Guns shouldn't be allowed, but yall will use "DLC" maps 🤔🤔 A lot of guns should be used in this game. Even guns like the swat and Tsarkov 7.62 should be used. Hell Y'all should be using sprint assist. A lot of talk about "skill gap" but honestly, it's a cover up for those that can't use sprint assist, cause their is a skill gap using that as well. One thing i do agree is smokes being ass. They have always been ass. Even just the fucking smoke in game from stuff that blow up is ass cause the other team can see you through it, and you can't see them through it. The amount of times i've died in bo6 cause of that is crazy, but alwasy been in these newer cod titles
Someone else should be responsible for Banned Stuff. You guys are just banning EVERYTHING. Back in the Day we played with the one Burst M8 and stuff and everything worked just fine
Long story short ban guns cos apparently they’re trash & let pros influence what needs to be GA’d and keep playing the same generic guns and game style with no variety GGS cod community.
We want to see great snipes. That's all there is to it. The fans want it. It gets the people going. League is going to go to crap if they keep GA'ing everything and fans get bored.
quick ttk and sbmm, nerf algorithms is ruining the game, and the players, and community, and metas, and gunplay . Krig was so average in its original state. its only good in this game. Activision ruined cod
the fact that the SAUG is considered OP by half of the league and the other half thinks the opposite means the game is broken, I think on very low latency, the SAUG is ass, for teams that aren't in the same level field in terms of internet he SAUG is op, this game in my opinion has the worst netcode and servers ever, and mark my words since the start of the season is in 2 weeks it will show for sure.
Can't kill a sniper better find one or become one lmao are we just all not gonna accept the fact a sniper is a gun that is used in real war and we all grow up wanting to hit sick trick shots and quick scopes so how are "pros" not good with a sniper holy fk
its ass outside of like 15 feet. thats why the pros say its ass. if you only get into super close range fights its fine but you cant kill anything outside of 15ft away from you
you guys have 4 players who like running AR's... maybe you guys should veto all SMG's... since everyone only think of themselves and team and not the community or viewing experience which brings in the money to pay their bloated salaries.
Most pro's are actually braindead, its a good thing they are good at COD, because jfc, kenny is really the only one who has an adult mentality, talking about how some don't know how too communicate outside of game is cringe af, like get serious.
simply put - this GA stuff needs to be taken out of the players hands. it's been abused for years - there needs to be a neutral committee doing the GA's
Facts. Why are we letting the pros run the league? That’s a conflict of interest all the way around. This talk was soooooo needed.
Retired pro's ?
100% should be run by people like Tom, Zin, Seth, Sam, etc.
these guys are scared of anything being different because they don’t know how it will affect them. It’s just pathetic.
Y’all have a franchise league but want the players to control it. That’s not how a franchise league works. NFL, NBA, NHL, etc. ALL ARE NOT RUN BY THE PLAYERS.
Use fucking pistols only at this point it’s ridiculous
exactly like EVERY other professional sports league
it’s a gentlemen’s agreement not real rules, there’s no rules or anyway that it could ever be regulated. the players are agreeing to not use certain things between themselves. the CDL can stop that in anyway. like i get what you’re saying but there’s no way they could ever stop players from all agreeing to not use something.
My GOAT being transparent, thats why hes the goat
Glaze
@ intentional glaze. You lack brain cells my guy😂
Swallowing
Saying "no ones gonna use it anyway so GA it" is so illogical I can't even listen to the rest of this.
Or when they say only three people cared enough to vote on the sniper and that people who don't care should just auto-ban it. Surely if they don't care enough, it should be auto-in?? Just banning to ban at this point lmao
Seriously. And at that the Saug is crazy on MnK, it's just mid on controller. Having a few dumb biased console players depicting GAs for everyone is completely idiotic.
actually so braindead lol the dlc guns if balanced can add much needed variety to the game. like no one wants the krig in but the saug would be pulled out on the few hills... adding variety
Where did I say that?
I only use that to the argument that people call the game stale without these guns? While my point is that even if it’s in it would be used…
@@KuavoKenny you say that till someone does and changes the game. in Bo3 no one used anything but the m8 for months. Then someone started using the Man o war as flex players and it became a viable pick even when the m8 wasn't banned. Yall literally kill any sort of creativity cod comp used to have. Like Phizzurp trying different shit in SnD and in tourneys was the reason I fell in love with cod comp and yall are legit killing it because yall basically just want the most bar bones version of cod.
That’s a poor argument though. The entire purpose of GA’ing any weapon is bc it “should not” be allowed. If it’s not good, simply do not ban it and if someone randomly chooses to situationally use it then great, if not then also fine. But the purpose should be to prevent unfair weaponry from being used.
that *is* kenny’s argument, though - and he admits he made a mistake w/ the Saug. but in a game where everyone’s looking for the advantage, it ends up being a small pool of weapons anyway because they cannot compete w/ the meta (sniper argument ♻️)
Players should not be allowed to set the rules for the games they are playing. That is insane. Imagine the NFL teams with bad O Lines banning the other teams from blitzing. Its insane
Truth
Exactly
We pay 75 dollars to just be told what guns we can and can’t use. Crazy how this is a thing.
Then dont play ranked then?
Yea for sure nobody telling you to play ranked, also ranked is based on the CDL league
You don't have to play Ranked if you don't like the rules. It's that simple.
@@kianleetch9082simp
Brother grow a brain
Need a GA board that listens to both the community and the pros. Krig is nuts OP, snipes aren’t OP especially with no attachments except for Protocol, but 1 snipe for 1 round is genius and should be tried for scrims
The Krig is definitely cracked 😭😂 I was using that mf last night
"we voted out the Saug"
"We didnt think it was good"
^ 🤔🧐
make it make sense
Yes OpTic was the only team who didn't think it was good enough so they were undecided. Every other team voted it out meaning there was really no point in OpTic voting against it. Ken should've cleared that up
he says because it's a dlc weapon. and most of the time dlc weapons are a doozy in comp. really a no brainer here
Zerostein, he LITERALLY said that it was a mistake and the only reason they did it was bc its a DLC weapon. Room temperature IQ dont get it is not a surprise😂
Keep sniping, it's soooooo entertaining to watch. Sniper locks down half of the map? Throw a damn smoke grenade like tf, learn a nade spot idk. You are the pros find a work around don't just ban an entire play style that allows for awesome highlights because ONE bomb site on a map is op.
That’s a part of the issue smokes are GA,d
They already voted it out with Zoomaa, shits chalked. 2nd year of no sniping highlights that have the possibility of being clipped for social media marketing purposes, pros are too deep in their bubble to differentiate what is best for viewership & the CDL in the long run vs their own personal short term bias
@@ABeastlybigtoepros don’t use smokes to counter snipers.
@@alextv293 yes that's absolutely dumb tho
Ur dumb lol
Come on bro you cant have SnD without snipers.. tell the crybaby pros that you are just gonna get picked off sometimes
0M45s DLC guns have been used before. Dallas Empire won a world championship with Shotzzy using the Grau in MW19. It has worked in the past
“Mom why is the Cheeto saying crazy things about my favorite game?”
Here’s the thing though. This is the worst sniper season we’ve probably ever had. The ads isn’t that good compared to other years, some of the worst hit markers of all time, the flinch is terrible, and the movement is wild.
Yes I understand that smokes are OP. I see that point. But part of me feels like even if we had smokes we wouldn’t get the sniper back. The guys who decide these just say stuff to make the community not as mad.
The sniper in mw2 was way better than bo6 and people half the time didn’t even use smokes properly. They used them for hitting routes anyway.
Some more food for thought.. Sniping is massive for the cod community. There’s people who only snipe. Having this in comp and having younger generations find the move for competitive and sniping is huge. I know it doesn’t matter to overall viewership but imagine how crazy the clips would go, and how many people won’t get bored in S&D. We already have to watch control. Half the time the S&D matches are super boring too.
As always love you Ken and the Green wall. Just my thoughts. As someone who has been playing since cod 4 I just wish we’d have seasoned vets or retired pros in charge of this instead of a lot of the younger players. Let’s get another ring this year #GreenWall
Lol when Eunited said screw the GAs and won an event with the DLC gun the X Eon in IW
Shotzzy used the grav DLC gun at the end of MW2019, specifically on azher cave. Until the cdl makes the GA list not the pros there will always be bias.
There should be retired pros being the ones to decide what gets GA'd. However, I definitely believe current pros should have like a panel where they can give their opinions and arguments, but at the end of the day current players shouldn't be voting. My only fear is that even if its retired pros voting, I hope they can remain neutral and not vote in favor for people they like.
Why shouldn’t the current pro vote if there the ones that are playing professionally, why would they not be allowed to make the choice on what they want to use
@@BrandonMedeiros-px2cv because at the end of the day, its mostly for entertainment/for the viewers. Its like in sports how players dont make the rules but can have a large influence on them. Also because there would be a big bias from players and they would vote for what benefits their team instead of what is actually broken (like how they did with the snipers)
Model, Krig, Saug, AMES, Jackal. All seem like solid weapons ngl.
If every other sub is allowed and dlc weapon are bad. Why GA those guns at all if bad. Im so confused.
I don’t buy it, if the GPR was good enough to be a flex gun in the meta it would get GA’d almost immediately. And pros would say there’s 8 of them on the map even though that’s not the optimal way to play the game
Back to back ken, lets go!❤
What's the difference between the saug & the other weapons that are allowed & people don't use because they are bad? If it's bad, it doesn't need to be GA'd, run it & lose. If we GA all the bad guns, we will never have another iconic nade HBR moment 😂
New listen in ep after next weekends matches?
We want snipers in this year for S&D they are not broken and it's good to see that you are involved more in the GA chat
if the sniper without attachments are so ass then why not let it in? Lol.
Grau was in mw19 comp that was a dlc gun
the difference between a 'dlc gun' and them buffing and nerfing guns with every update is basically nothing - same with the 'guns no one is using'. There is no reason for the results of the GA votes not to be public. Not allowing the 'community to sway you' is also bs and a real reason why the cod scene is shrinking. Not hating but i expected a lot more from such a great player.
we used the ram 7 in mw 19 and it was dlc. if we use dlc maps, we should be able to use dlc weapons if they are balanced
Idk if this was made yesterday but they literally GAd the knife as of me typing this you know shits bad when you have Shotzzy crashing out shits sad
How do you get a smoke right?? Its a smoke grenade its been the same past like 15 years lol
If weapons aren’t being used, it makes no sense to GA. You take away those rare occurrences of variety or strats, I do agree that ranked and scrim should be separate. There does need to be weapon buffs tho so we can see more variety in these matches
They need to find the best balance for making it as competitive as possible while also entertaining for the viewers and growing the scene. Everyone i try to get into watching the competitive side of cod all complain that they watch the same thing every game with no variety.
Kenny seems to be the only adult using his logic here.
this is why i think pick and ban should come back. i know people didn’t like it when it was in bo3 but if you really don’t want to deal with something you just ban it for the match. it also makes people actually get good with multiple ars and smgs. i know it’s an unpopular opinion but it just makes too much sense if there’s gonna be this much of an argument for ga’s
not enough things to ban especially with have the weapons GA, ranked play will follow the GA’s
Love you Kenny. God's work. Stay on OpTic please.
I agree with the smokes thing because that's how smokes should be used and snipes should always be in, if possible. The problem is that, even when smokes have been decent, pros rarely use them to make a cross they end up at their feet to play their life. So just put the snipes in lmao
Respectfully Ken, you’re wrong about pros not using DLC guns. I vividly remember Dylan Envoy using the RAM on Gun Runner back in MW19. I also remember when Scump played Warzone with Swagg, he said pros tested the grau in scrims. Those were BOTH DLC guns
which never became meta, they tested it, thats why he said they have never once been the comp gun of the year
Shotzzy used the GRAU in a CDL match. there was a post on reddit.
it's not about whether its good .....I get it for CDL but for ranked...it gets hella boring, I like options...even it's not "optimal"
Cod be focusing on SMG's and AR's to much that they be forgetting to buff the Snipers to Snipe in even longer range then AR's. just wish they brought Snipers back. they be Nerfing Reloading and Utility use to much that makes Trading to common in game. something unique is that they should bring back Crit damages like from MW2 but allow AR's to do it mid range while SMG's do it in close Range.
I don't really understand the point of GA's personally. People agree a gun is OP so GA it, then everyone just uses the next best sub/ar. It seems more like players preference is one meta gun, instead of just appreciating the meta as is. The knife GA I've heard about is crazy though. Snipers out also doesn't really make sense to me either, if there's one thing that I think would be better, it would be to GA aim assist out, maybe even kbm if it's gonna be too much of an issue, or take a leaf out of Rainbow 6's ranked and have everything allowed with each player having 1 vote to ban each. Make for some super interesting counters and strats giving the entire scene another dimension to it.
What needs to happen, is they need to bring back the voting system that they had in Black ops 3. Imo, Blops 3 was goated with ranked play, being able to choose what map to veto, which weapon to veto, tacts. Like come on. This is the only game that I know of, where you have a limited choice for the weapons to use in order to play ranked.
The point is even if one person uses it then it's enough to not ban it, especially if it's bad and we don't see it a lot
GAs aren't entirely on devs
Xm4 and krig made sense
Saug, knife, hell even ordinance gloves just because skyz was nasty with a grenade is crazy
I miss seeing different strats every series w all the guns 😭 like why won’t yall use the AEK 😭 “It’s too busted” man what ab the M8 or IMR 😭
Didnt bo2 comp have the peacekeeper
Honestly today’s pros would ban the bo2 m8a1 due to the potential one burst.
GA’s should be allowed in very rare circumstances. Strats and counters SHOULD be a prominent part of the game. All of these GA’s are dummying down the game .
TJ gaslit the ell outta that call last night.
Ban OP weapons, not scenario weapons.
If keeping a gun in would result in 8 players using the gun at all times, ban it.
Otherwise, it is a ‘scenario weapon’ which can be OP but only in certain scenarios.
Example, If a Saug is trash in all situations except 1 hill, and everyone uses the Saug on that hill, that is a good thing. It requires players to know when a gun is favorable and also requires them to be good with said gun.
Competitive has taken out all situational decision making and banned them under the guise of ‘skill gap’.
Additionally, GA’s should be handled by the CDL and players should only be able to overrule a weapon ban if ALL players vote to do so.
That’s my two cents.
People aren’t using it but give minutes before that he’s saying the sniper is op
Krig or xm4?
pro rasberry dis what is supposed to be 😂😂
No DLC guns in comp? wasn't the grau a DLC gun and was used for a good while or am i tripping?
Warzone
They only used m4/mp5 in mp in the cdl
Never used dat gun lmao
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Kenny needs to bench press chall pros that want snipers out, winner gets their way
M4 op irl that’s why we run it irl
The only thing that I want to comment on is he says other guns aren’t being used because they’re not good enough but then if a gun is good enough it gets GAd. So what then
Saug is op outside of like nuketown? Huh
The amount of double talk from the pros including Kenny who constantly lies to protect his team he originally said optic didn’t even vote on the saug then admitted that his team didn’t care and since it wasn’t helping them he voted it out optic is playing the same game the rest and it’s going to ruin the scene
Sniper flinch makes sniping so bad tho
Can someone tell me why they GA stuff? If everyone has it its fair yes?
You can do it too, Faze up
Why is GAs not live so the community can hear what’s going on we don’t want to find out out from X what’s GAd the GA system should not be in the hands of the pros as well it should in the hands of the coach’s and retired pros it’s that simple every dam year we getting the same old format like if the movement wasn’t in the game the would definitely hit the lowest it’s ever been
Players GAing things has been a mistake every year there’s no sniper in the game. A bunch of kids who haven’t touched grass or seen the real world crying about fairness is insane.
This year is even worse with the obvious targeted GAs. Embarrassing league.
If the viewers are becoming disinterested in the ban choices then it needs to be taken out of the pro players choice/control. I’m sorry but this is entertainment, not pure competition. If we can’t see certain guns that the community loves from their favorite players then what’s the point. Unless you have the majority comp fanbase community supporting a GA, it shouldn’t be allowed by the teams.
I hope the CDL just mandates that snipers are allowed idk why people are just terrified of dashy or simp or beans pulling out a sniper just because they don't have any good snipers on their team then it isn't fair for teams that have good snipers to use it all, Teej's only argument was beans is a shit player but he's too good with a sniper and he doesn't want to be killed by shit players
Kenny, smokes and snipers go hand in hand????? We had smokes last year in mw3?! Where were the snipers at?! Nah, pro credibility is at it's lowest point it's ever been. I as a casual hated it last year in ranked because I saw 6 snipers in a map. CDL, you ain't going to see 6 snipers on a map. You guys can work around 1 sniper!
some guns really dont need to be used…
“it was a step in the right direction that we tried DLC guns”
“They shouldn’t be allowed regardless because they’re DLC”
Doesn’t sound like you made any progress there mate as you’ve just said we tried it but we shouldn’t really bother or allow it because it’s DLC
Times change, stop living in the past - there’s no good logic to say all dlc guns should be GA’d gameplay wise
Ars arent op its just that way when the game drops cuz ppl are getting used to movement. Then by the time ppl get good w subs everything is ga already. Like xm4 isnt that op if the good subs are allowed too
Why are dlc guns out every year when we’re playing with DLC maps that are coming in, regardless of jt they’re old maps. It’s 100p better to add old maps when they come in so some guns could be good. Not the krig tho lmao Snipes should be in for sure
You dont think there is any value in keeping comp as close to the normal game as possible? Why are you BANNING guns that arent viable in the first place? It sounds like you have a fix for the sniper but you still want it gone for no reason...
Its crazy how no other esport has its rules decided by the "pros" but this one feels like its special in someway. Its wild how they gatekeep the scene to their own little skill sets lmfao.
Kenny is legit one of the few chill and reasonable pro's with decent takes on this BS. HOWEVER
2 gun meta because you banned all the other good guns. Acting like theres only 2 good guns and the rest are ass when you've banned 90% of the game is frankly hilarious
Halo Infinite had GAs
are yall actually saying the SAUG is not good😮😮😮😮😮why are yall capping????
im fine with them GA'ing shit but bad weapons shouldnt be GA'd only things that are unfair, also GA's shouldnt transfer over to ranked unless its a broken gun like the krig etc
just allow all of the guns like every other competitive game
GAs gonna KILLLLL viewership
Y’all just gotta keep the sniping for the fans
“i agree it shouldn’t be out if everyone agrees it’s not good” My bro says this not even 3 mins into the video and yall in the comments braindead 😂
Ga's are trash, ban 100 guns and every player still using only 2 guns
Legitimately brain dead pro’s at the minute. By default everything is in. Only if something is god like and dominating games should it go to vote. To get it out takes majority vote. If a gun if not good. Banning it is honestly mind blowing.
Also you’re playing for entertainment, without viewers and fans you get no salary, have no careers. Make the game play interesting. The devs aren’t helping with the maps but the pros aren’t helping just as much
Pros are too good everything can be GA'd. Just make weapons random for each match for both teams and see who really is gun skill or player skill.
The as val should be in ranked
One thing i disagree with is when ken says "DLC guns shouldn't even be allowed", Ok so are the maps. The guns would've been in the game from the start, but cause they need content to add to the games life cycle, they bring them in at a later date. The mindset that a gun being added to the game shouldn't be allowed is crazy work. Guns shouldn't be allowed, but yall will use "DLC" maps 🤔🤔 A lot of guns should be used in this game. Even guns like the swat and Tsarkov 7.62 should be used. Hell Y'all should be using sprint assist. A lot of talk about "skill gap" but honestly, it's a cover up for those that can't use sprint assist, cause their is a skill gap using that as well. One thing i do agree is smokes being ass. They have always been ass. Even just the fucking smoke in game from stuff that blow up is ass cause the other team can see you through it, and you can't see them through it. The amount of times i've died in bo6 cause of that is crazy, but alwasy been in these newer cod titles
nah bc the dlc weapons are usually way better as soon as they drop
Nice.
Someone else should be responsible for Banned Stuff. You guys are just banning EVERYTHING.
Back in the Day we played with the one Burst M8 and stuff and everything worked just fine
Long story short ban guns cos apparently they’re trash & let pros influence what needs to be GA’d and keep playing the same generic guns and game style with no variety GGS cod community.
Defo valid takes, but snipers do not need to be ga’d man cmon
Guns Shouldn’t be banned for “it’s ass anyway so no point” tho cuz we all remember the mp7 in bo2
Ur basically saying u don’t care what the community thinks
Mw19 shotzzy used dlc gun
We want to see great snipes. That's all there is to it. The fans want it. It gets the people going. League is going to go to crap if they keep GA'ing everything and fans get bored.
The sniper is not op they are lying to us
quick ttk and sbmm, nerf algorithms is ruining the game, and the players, and community, and metas, and gunplay . Krig was so average in its original state. its only good in this game. Activision ruined cod
the fact that the SAUG is considered OP by half of the league and the other half thinks the opposite means the game is broken, I think on very low latency, the SAUG is ass, for teams that aren't in the same level field in terms of internet he SAUG is op, this game in my opinion has the worst netcode and servers ever, and mark my words since the start of the season is in 2 weeks it will show for sure.
Saug is the same as the wsp
Can't kill a sniper better find one or become one lmao are we just all not gonna accept the fact a sniper is a gun that is used in real war and we all grow up wanting to hit sick trick shots and quick scopes so how are "pros" not good with a sniper holy fk
Has to be a 3rd party doing the GA stuff because it's getting out of hand now because mfers will only win majors with a baseball bat at this point
Don't GA bad shit. Let someone make HBR 2.0
You might be a pro but the saug is not ass
its ass outside of like 15 feet. thats why the pros say its ass. if you only get into super close range fights its fine but you cant kill anything outside of 15ft away from you
you guys have 4 players who like running AR's... maybe you guys should veto all SMG's... since everyone only think of themselves and team and not the community or viewing experience which brings in the money to pay their bloated salaries.
What?
These players are soft ….
@@SeriouslyNotMichaelJordan it's a joke because the GA's and players are a joke...
Dude you just yapping 🤣
@@user-ir3ch4lc5q usually what people do... they talk... great input you bring with your 10 IQ
Most pro's are actually braindead, its a good thing they are good at COD, because jfc, kenny is really the only one who has an adult mentality, talking about how some don't know how too communicate outside of game is cringe af, like get serious.