Give a lot of credit to TechIngredients channel for showing this setup. That guy went through a lot of hard work and experimentation to show us how to build this properly and the best materials to use for it. If it wasn't for him, people would still be using plywood and shitty materials that sound like garbage.
Friend of mine watched a video a while back about a company that designed sound systems for cars using this principle. He decided to try it himself. It took some trial and error but the results were truly amazing. He had exciters that turned the dashboard into midrange, the headliner into another frequency ( I think it was the bass), even the door panels were done up and even under the seats and in the trunk ( sub woofers). Pretty much the whole interior was utilized. I got to listen to the project along the way during the whole process. When he was finished and had it dialed in it was crazy awesome sounding. One of the best sounding sound systems I have ever heard in a vehicle.
Was going to do this a couple of years ago but got sidetracked with my other crafts. I make infinity mirrors, lamps out of sewer pipe and clocks from LP albums and the list goes on. I am going to put all my other stuff and do this sometime in the next week. Totally awesome
Good video tutorial and you did a nice job of sharing your knowledge. I found your channel through a trail of e-breadcrumbs after watching the Tech Ingredients video that you mention. You have earned another subscriber both for your video here and for being a good guy and crediting Tech Ingredients. Keep up the good job!
Hey! I screwed around with these and bass shakers all threw high school. I remember getting the Parts Express catalogs and be busy for hours planning and building dozens of projects with DA stuff. Kinda crazy how far things have come even in the last 10 years.
Dayton Audio is NOT a Chinese company. It's headquarters is in Springboro, Ohio, USA! They only manufacture their goods in North America, Europe and China.
I agree with all that you said, great advice but rather than using dual exciters per panel I would (and do) use a single quad exciter > Dayton Audio DAEX25X4-4 Bullfrog Vented Disc Spider 25mm x 4 Exciter. Cheers
Great video and am curious too about a more bass devoted shape of foam piece. I am wanting to put these in my garage for speakers. Cant wait to see some more videos about these exciters!
With bass you need reverberation which these style panels dont give a lot of. Best sound you can get for the money is the mids pushing through the left and right channel panels with 2 exciters on each panel and a separate amp and low pass filter for a center sub, with a set of tweeters with a high pass on them..
DIYDAD here building myself a few of these along with two 12” subwoofers and four 5” speakers and 2 tweets for my garage lol it has my old 70” tv in it and a wall mounted glass electric fireplace 73”icon toolbox with govee rgb lights that respond to sound big nerd moments shared! Love it man subbed
they sound way better if the width of the panels are 90% the length and one exciter is in the center and the other is off to one side and down a little bit.
Placing the exciters in different places on a stereo signal will defeat much of what the original audio engineer was trying to accomplish. If you use different configurations on different panels you should use a mono output and place the panels adjacent to each other. All of the audio will be sent to both speakers and the “EQing" you are doing with exciter placement should have better results. If you retain the original stereo output it would be better to use two exciters per panel (center and 2/5) or a set of the differentiated panels per channel.
Make them longer. Did it as well. Pkace them in the top half. The longer end will move alot. And produce deep bass. Used this kind of setup as well. Went pretty low and loud
I've been watching a few of these. I was thinking, could you build them and have them in a box? Like say it's a 24" panel, then build a wooden box say 27x27 with a 4" or so deep wall around it. Then suspend the panel in the center so you have a 1.5" gap around the panel and air gab behind it. Then you could mount the box or sit it wherever. Maybe even make smaller bookshelf ones?
I think the drywall in front would almost negate anything from these speakers, but I think it'd be cool to create a pocket in the wall with these suspended and flush mounted within and barely a 1/8th to 1/4 inch gap around the sides of it would be really cool!
I’m wondering if a 4x8 panel would be enough. I’ve entertained the thought of taking half inch and gluing together to make a 20’ long one since wave length of low frequencies is about 20’ Over the top, yeah but why not.
To get Bass you have to move air at low frequency’s, these won’t do that but you could experiment with a open baffle subwoofer if you want to keep with the simple diy.
Every time I watch US guys they are all so afraid they wil get blocked or punished for 30 seconds of pop music etc. It is cray how you are all felt there under big brothers watching you around the clock everywhere. Be bolder, foock 'em all, live your free life, folks!!!
Fisher was making these in the 1960s I STILL HAVE a pair ! They are novel but not hi fidelity even w new technology , do not use foam board use corollas works 10x better!
@@georgemiller8329 I'm using Coroplast George with excellent results. For my next iteration I'm thinking of using these pink boards. Blue in my part of the world...
Give a lot of credit to TechIngredients channel for showing this setup. That guy went through a lot of hard work and experimentation to show us how to build this properly and the best materials to use for it. If it wasn't for him, people would still be using plywood and shitty materials that sound like garbage.
I had a pair about 50 yrs. ago; BES (Bertagni elecroacoustical systems) that was a foam element with a voice coil within an aluminum frame.
Friend of mine watched a video a while back about a company that designed sound systems for cars using this principle. He decided to try it himself. It took some trial and error but the results were truly amazing. He had exciters that turned the dashboard into midrange, the headliner into another frequency ( I think it was the bass), even the door panels were done up and even under the seats and in the trunk ( sub woofers). Pretty much the whole interior was utilized. I got to listen to the project along the way during the whole process. When he was finished and had it dialed in it was crazy awesome sounding. One of the best sounding sound systems I have ever heard in a vehicle.
Link please
Yes I wanted to do this
Was going to do this a couple of years ago but got sidetracked with my other crafts. I make infinity mirrors, lamps out of sewer pipe and clocks from LP albums and the list goes on. I am going to put all my other stuff and do this sometime in the next week. Totally awesome
Good video tutorial and you did a nice job of sharing your knowledge. I found your channel through a trail of e-breadcrumbs after watching the Tech Ingredients video that you mention. You have earned another subscriber both for your video here and for being a good guy and crediting Tech Ingredients. Keep up the good job!
Hey! I screwed around with these and bass shakers all threw high school. I remember getting the Parts Express catalogs and be busy for hours planning and building dozens of projects with DA stuff. Kinda crazy how far things have come even in the last 10 years.
Dayton Audio is NOT a Chinese company. It's headquarters is in Springboro, Ohio, USA! They only manufacture their goods in North America, Europe and China.
I'm wondering what it would sound like if someone used two full sheets as speakers. Wonder what that would sound like🤔
We'll call you Jimmy two times...
Sand the outer layer off and use dual exciters. Add a sub for the bass.
I agree with all that you said, great advice but rather than using dual exciters per panel I would (and do) use a single quad exciter > Dayton Audio DAEX25X4-4 Bullfrog Vented Disc Spider 25mm x 4 Exciter. Cheers
Saw a video where you could hear sanded with unsanded amd many preferred unsanded sound
Great video and am curious too about a more bass devoted shape of foam piece. I am wanting to put these in my garage for speakers. Cant wait to see some more videos about these exciters!
Did you get any info on bass ones? I want to make a storage closet into a bass cave
With bass you need reverberation which these style panels dont give a lot of. Best sound you can get for the money is the mids pushing through the left and right channel panels with 2 exciters on each panel and a separate amp and low pass filter for a center sub, with a set of tweeters with a high pass on them..
DIYDAD here building myself a few of these along with two 12” subwoofers and four 5” speakers and 2 tweets for my garage lol it has my old 70” tv in it and a wall mounted glass electric fireplace 73”icon toolbox with govee rgb lights that respond to sound big nerd moments shared! Love it man subbed
they sound way better if the width of the panels are 90% the length and one exciter is in the center and the other is off to one side and down a little bit.
Placing the exciters in different places on a stereo signal will defeat much of what the original audio engineer was trying to accomplish. If you use different configurations on different panels you should use a mono output and place the panels adjacent to each other. All of the audio will be sent to both speakers and the “EQing" you are doing with exciter placement should have better results. If you retain the original stereo output it would be better to use two exciters per panel (center and 2/5) or a set of the differentiated panels per channel.
This is totally new to me. This is cool. Thank you for sharing this.
That was damn cool, great mixing things up with the content.
Make them longer. Did it as well. Pkace them in the top half. The longer end will move alot. And produce deep bass. Used this kind of setup as well. Went pretty low and loud
Awesome. I’ll have to give that a try!
Wish you showed the wiring setup. Would have loved to see how that works.
I get what you're saying, I just built my own set today and was blown away
I wonder if putting a slight radius on the long edges would help with the sound.
Mind blown 🤯 that sounds great nice job thank you I’m going to try it out 🔥👍 😊
What in the world!? I love it!
Nice video and nice cheap sound that doesn't need a lot of space. I'll replace my desktop speakers
Has anyone produced any frequency response curves for these type of speakers?
tech ingredients which this video draws from has frequency response curves
Is that bass kick coming from the panels, or you have a sub connected?
It’s a small computer subwoofer. The panels don’t make very much low end.
I've been watching a few of these. I was thinking, could you build them and have them in a box? Like say it's a 24" panel, then build a wooden box say 27x27 with a 4" or so deep wall around it. Then suspend the panel in the center so you have a 1.5" gap around the panel and air gab behind it. Then you could mount the box or sit it wherever. Maybe even make smaller bookshelf ones?
thats what i was thinking
These produce 360 sound.
If you think that blows your mind, hook up a sub woofer with the DML's and prepare to be utterly shocked.
Dayton Audio stuff is made in China.
I'm gonna build some.
Every lady says”wire these up.” Can you do a video on the wiring?
Good job, man. Great video!
Do the vibrations affect the durability of the panels?
Are those foam boards PS or PE?
I wonder if i can install some of those behind the drywall hidden in the wall
You can but the sound quality will be a fight.
I think the drywall in front would almost negate anything from these speakers, but I think it'd be cool to create a pocket in the wall with these suspended and flush mounted within and barely a 1/8th to 1/4 inch gap around the sides of it would be really cool!
I would love to see what you come up with to get more bass out of them.
I’m wondering if a 4x8 panel would be enough. I’ve entertained the thought of taking half inch and gluing together to make a 20’ long one since wave length of low frequencies is about 20’ Over the top, yeah but why not.
But highs and mids are the best IMO. I’ll sit frozen in place listening to music I normally wouldn’t just transfixed.
If you gave a piano put one of these on the back of the sound board
To get Bass you have to move air at low frequency’s, these won’t do that but you could experiment with a open baffle subwoofer if you want to keep with the simple diy.
Using a lot of "tech ingredients" :)
I wonder how they measure
The exciters were made in China. Dayton Audio is based in Ohio.
The amplifier is way too expensive. Just get the amplifier board from aliexpress and a decent DC power adapter.
Every time I watch US guys they are all so afraid they wil get blocked or punished for 30 seconds of pop music etc. It is cray how you are all felt there under big brothers watching you around the clock everywhere. Be bolder, foock 'em all, live your free life, folks!!!
Dude, some backroom AI just flips a switch, N its over, gone--------
This is based on Tesla's Mechanical Resonance
❤💪🔥 Love your Vids
Why are you chasing your breath?
The music is lacking
It's because of copyright infringement....pretty sure that's not his choice haha
@@maxmuller542 oh... Ok
Fisher was making these in the 1960s I STILL HAVE a pair ! They are novel but not hi fidelity even w new technology , do not use foam board use corollas works 10x better!
COROPLAST sorry
@@georgemiller8329 I'm using Coroplast George with excellent results. For my next iteration I'm thinking of using these pink boards. Blue in my part of the world...
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Lol there's a black speaker on rafter between foam board
There isn't. But the only way you'll know for sure, is to do it yourself 😉
So there is no mention of Techingredients channel?
Smells like a 🖨️🐅 in here...