WHY YOU SUCK AT MANUALS | HOW TO MANUAL YOUR BIKE

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  • @bcarle86
    @bcarle86 3 роки тому +89

    “Get your weight behind the axle by pushing the bike forward” has made such a difference in my manuals since watching this. Even though it’s really kind of the same motion, I feel so much more in control vs throwing my weight back and hoping I don’t loop out. Great tip Jeff.

  • @JimmyChenFlores
    @JimmyChenFlores 3 роки тому +4

    Too much hinge is a game changing advice. I got in my head after looping a manny months ago. Started unconsciously hinging and wondering why I couldn't hold any distance like I used to. You feel like you're getting far enough back, but you're not really commiting. Shoulders squared up is invaluable. Thanks for this, Jeff.

  • @gmanmtb
    @gmanmtb 3 роки тому +32

    For over 18 months I've been concentrating on the whole down and back L shape technique.
    Without too much success. But now I concentrate on pushing the bike out in front of me.
    That's how I see or visualize it now. Exactly what you said!
    Huuuuge difference with massive results!!

  • @fadecomic
    @fadecomic Рік тому +1

    This was really helpful. Hinging at the waist was my issue, and I didn't even realize it. I understood the "down and back" and "don't lift with your arms", but it still wasn't working. I realize now that I'm compressing myself at the waist, and I can see that basically undoes the down and back motion.

  • @concrerto
    @concrerto 3 роки тому +8

    I can hold one for a good distance and have gotten pretty decent at them but this tutorial still helped me realize some mistakes, especially rounding the back, I do that when I’m tired and sloppy. Now I can pick up on that, thanks Jeff!

  • @thebasementslob
    @thebasementslob 2 роки тому

    Man. You use to be my hero. I just turned 37 and picked up a dirt jumper again after 15 years. Glad to see you’re still givener

  • @lukebeltrand3847
    @lukebeltrand3847 3 роки тому +5

    Awesome, will begin working on this asap!

  • @jf0314
    @jf0314 3 роки тому +9

    Thanks Jeff, I like how you went through alternative ways to get your weight back. This is the one trick (along with wheelies) that eludes me. You've inspired me to get some practice in.

  • @brentv7299
    @brentv7299 3 роки тому +4

    Great video Jeff! The best tip you've provided (which is almost NEVER mentioned by others) is where/what to look at. Look to the horizon!! The manual is no different from a wheelie as relates to your sight and the same mistake of looking 'down' is commonly repeat with this skill. Remember: Look down, fall down.

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Brent. I hope it helps people out.

    • @sapinva
      @sapinva 3 роки тому

      Same goes for track stands and skinnies. Look down at your wheels and you'll just fall in the hole.

  • @MaquinasDePalomitas
    @MaquinasDePalomitas Рік тому

    One of the best manual videos I've seen, I can manual three car lengths for some reason but I'm making a few of the mistakes that no one ever mentions

  • @derman3658
    @derman3658 3 роки тому +3

    Not just great tips, but well shot, video examples of them. Great job. Time to practice

    • @PhuNguyen-jy8wq
      @PhuNguyen-jy8wq 3 роки тому

      that is all great tips man, but just not for all 🙂. Very helpful to me, thank you Jeff!

  • @PhuNguyen-jy8wq
    @PhuNguyen-jy8wq 3 роки тому +2

    You did great job Jeff, i'm from Vietnam and I could still learning much much from you. I'm your fan, i ride a hardtail and i'm so happy to know you love hardtail too, and you can do anything with it. I've just ride for 6 months, wish i could ride free and cool like you (a bit, haha), and hope someday i would come to see you, offline. Thank you! I'm your fan!

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for checking out the videos. I hope to ride with you someday!

    • @PhuNguyen-jy8wq
      @PhuNguyen-jy8wq 3 роки тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss wonderful 🥰

  • @philippebenard1075
    @philippebenard1075 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the tips you totally pointed out the mistake of too much body bending for me. Time to get back at it !!! Love the channel

  • @METEORA_47
    @METEORA_47 3 роки тому +1

    head up and hips over the axle.nice video.i should try it 💪

  • @thunderdogproductions
    @thunderdogproductions 3 роки тому

    push your bike forward is what makes a lot more sense to me, awesome tips!

  • @glitchman3194
    @glitchman3194 3 роки тому +2

    Another great video Jeff. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the ride

  • @richchin5163
    @richchin5163 3 роки тому +2

    Great tips! Would love to see you and Ryan Leech do a fun ride together. Two good guys from the old school.

  • @janmaly1591
    @janmaly1591 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah, that pushing forward with the pedals is sneaky. Great vid!

  • @BikeLifewithRob
    @BikeLifewithRob 3 роки тому +2

    Good tips! You are the man, didn’t know how sweet you’ve been for soooo long!

  • @jeffhayes1855
    @jeffhayes1855 3 роки тому +1

    Great descriptions. I’ve never heard manuals explained this way. Makes good sense. Thanks!

  • @kimdon1066
    @kimdon1066 3 роки тому +1

    Great instructional video. Heading out to practice.

  • @nicholaswilson2568
    @nicholaswilson2568 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Jeff, from The Yorkshire Dales UK.

  • @lionelhernandez34
    @lionelhernandez34 3 роки тому +2

    Man you really are a trail boss 🙌 , from you're riding to your teaching style 👌. Great video now gonna go out and see if I can't make this happen.

  • @richATTK1
    @richATTK1 3 роки тому +7

    Great video, been trying to increase my manuals over 10 ft 😁👍.

  • @barryray275
    @barryray275 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, really clear explanation with great slo-mo vid. Cheers.

  • @snat6299
    @snat6299 3 роки тому +1

    Great tips going to try some tomorrow

  • @eugenespreutels8305
    @eugenespreutels8305 3 роки тому +1

    Great tips, you would think that riding a bicycle for nearly 50 years that I could do at least one trick, lol!

  • @ryansinks4919
    @ryansinks4919 3 роки тому +2

    Hey Jeff! I get my new Redikyelous frame soon! I can’t wait to practice some tricks and rip some single track👊

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому

      AWESOME!! What color did ya get?

    • @ryansinks4919
      @ryansinks4919 3 роки тому +1

      White with black decals, and will have some red accent parts to go with it! Should look pretty clean! I also got her with sliding dropouts and seatstay splitter to experiment with single speed. I love what you and Reeb are doing, keep up the good work and I look forward to more content👌Thanks for the tips

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому +1

      @@ryansinks4919 AWESOME!!!

  • @dangiles6453
    @dangiles6453 3 роки тому +1

    Great video Jeff, plenty for me to work on

  • @amathzb-techleta
    @amathzb-techleta 3 роки тому +1

    What a great video new friend here watching here in Malaysia from Philippines support to your channel ridesafe sir🤘

  • @TheButlerNZ
    @TheButlerNZ 3 роки тому +4

    2:00 Great that Jeff understands that some of us think in a sort of reverse to what others think is the norm.
    doing the exact same thing but thinking about it differently can be the difference between doing it, and failing to comprehend....
    My epiphany came when trying to ski... "Push your toes down and into the turn" they said... I just couldn't...
    then I realised... "Lift your heels up and away from the corner.. a bit like a drift... Bingo I was hotdoggin the slopes..

  • @decaysaypluhtheyst
    @decaysaypluhtheyst 5 місяців тому

    I bought my first nice MTB recently. I'm 6'1 and bought a large frame, I'm really struggling to get the wheel up at all with 29 inch wheels. I also find myself afraid to even attempt bunny hopping. It feels really strange coming from a BMX bike years ago. I really hate flat bars and think I'm going to get some 50mm rise bars soon. I feel like I can't get far enough back to save my life. If the rise bars don't help, I may swap my dropout to run 27.5 in the rear and live the mullet life.

  • @MTBpaMore
    @MTBpaMore 3 роки тому +1

    Need to try this , thanks for sharing

  • @weathdone
    @weathdone 3 роки тому +1

    great tips in here.. thanx for doing your vids!!!

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому

      Thanks for checking it out Anthony!

    • @weathdone
      @weathdone 3 роки тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Jeff i literally did my first manuals last night at the park by my house ...Not really really long yet....but i got this now... ur tips made that happen just those couple lil things finally got me where i needed to be... thanx again buddy....Ur the man. oh and ive watched my share of other manual vids.. this was the one :)

  • @MRQnilz
    @MRQnilz Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing. I think im in the right channel for self learning in MTB Hardtail. Will scouting your Playlist later and im a new subscriber! Cheers!

  • @mxrider772
    @mxrider772 3 роки тому +7

    Hey, that's Harris Lake park. I thought that looked familiar!

    • @mattmacclellan
      @mattmacclellan 3 роки тому +1

      Harris lake park Nc? I’m right by that area but going back to Pisgah tomorrow, I never ride down here anymore and unfortunately now San Lee Park’s gravity park was shut down by the county about 7 weeks ago.

    • @mattmacclellan
      @mattmacclellan 3 роки тому +1

      Awesome instruction broken down well, I need to practice this.

    • @markwoods5080
      @markwoods5080 3 роки тому +1

      Ha! Yes, it was so funny to watch the video and say "hey, that's Harris!". It's about 5 minutes from my house, and while it is pretty tame, it can be really fun to take the neighborhood kids and beginners. Great video!

  • @StarbusterShow
    @StarbusterShow 2 роки тому

    man, you really give out good tips, on point!

  • @joelopresti7360
    @joelopresti7360 3 роки тому +1

    Great Video.

  • @MudSweatGears_TT
    @MudSweatGears_TT 3 роки тому +3

    Great tips! This made so much sense! 💯🙌🏽

  • @chriscordova2680
    @chriscordova2680 3 роки тому +1

    #TrailBoss Thank you Jeff, many helpful tips there. Tried slowing down the video and watched it twice...wish i could see just how much hip movement you do. I'm just learning manuals and have yet to get the hip movement...more practice i guess. Thank you for all that you do...VERY helpful!!!

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому +1

      If you keep your arm straight and your front wheel relatively low do you need a much bigger movement with your hips to adjust your balance which may or may not help you when you’re first learning. I personally think it’s helpful because you can be less precise

    • @chriscordova2680
      @chriscordova2680 3 роки тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Thank you, every bit helps.

  • @Max-xl3ml
    @Max-xl3ml 3 роки тому +1

    Love the intro. The hinge thing blew my mind I think I've been doing that this whole time smh 🤣.

    •  3 роки тому

      Yeah, I believe that is exactly how I look when trying to manual!

  • @gagoebel
    @gagoebel 3 роки тому +1

    At 3:20 you advise keeping the pedals "level" . However, when you are then shown doing the manual, your right pedal is much higher than your left pedal. Do you mean "level" with the angle between the front and rear wheel? Please clarify. Thanks! 😀

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому +4

      Level relative to your body, so maybe "perpendicular" might make more sense. If I was riding on flat ground my pedals are level, when my front wheel is high but I'm leaned back and my pedals are slanted to the horizon but level to my stance.

  • @mattkeegan7515
    @mattkeegan7515 3 роки тому +1

    i feel like I saw you at mountain creek bike park in nj

  • @marcfreshart
    @marcfreshart 3 роки тому +1

    Also when yall figure out your front wheel height try to pull it up into that spot quickly. Otherwise you end up correcting the position (up and down) instead of holding it.

  • @drewsenthused6079
    @drewsenthused6079 3 роки тому +1

    Great stuff!

  • @dwikurniawan1376
    @dwikurniawan1376 2 роки тому +2

    great tutorial. I have a question..if feel my bike size is too big, is it more difficult to manual if the bike is too big? i am 165 cm tall, my bike size is L and using 29er

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  2 роки тому

      That can absolutely effect it! I have a video on my channel from about a year ago, it's called "size matters" check it out, you might find the info helpful.

  • @kmasick1
    @kmasick1 3 роки тому +2

    Between the wheelie and manual. Which should be learned first?

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому +2

      Manual. Long ones are harder than wheelies but this series is sorta in chronological order.

    • @kmasick1
      @kmasick1 3 роки тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss thank you

  • @thatguythatdoesstuff7448
    @thatguythatdoesstuff7448 3 роки тому +13

    Reason one: You lack Jeff's junk in the trunk.

  • @MellowYellowCJ7
    @MellowYellowCJ7 3 роки тому +2

    It took me way too long to figure out that you filmed this at Harris Lake. :)

  • @winnguyen443
    @winnguyen443 3 роки тому +9

    I don’t just suck at the manual, I just plain suck.

  • @흙기사-e6h
    @흙기사-e6h 3 роки тому +1

    당신 영상 즐겨보는데 기술영상 설명을 쉽게 풀어줘 고맙게 생각합니다 thank you ^^

  • @drappennen5704
    @drappennen5704 3 роки тому +1

    Crazy good 👍🏻

  • @jailbreakoverlander
    @jailbreakoverlander 3 роки тому +1

    Nice im 53 and trying to learn this on a trek rail e bike lol

  • @seanmckenna4317
    @seanmckenna4317 3 роки тому +1

    Nice vid jeff

  • @5throwdown
    @5throwdown 3 роки тому +1

    Jeff, I live just a few miles from Harris trails! We've got to meet up and shred sometime. Would love to pick your brain and work on some various skillsets on the bike. Please reply back if your open to connecting. thanks!

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому

      Definitely open to it but I live in NJ so it’ll need to be next time I’m in the area. Cool?

  • @hunterburgess2622
    @hunterburgess2622 3 роки тому +1

    I seem to manuel best when I'm at trail speed and I try it over some bumps or an obstacle. If I'm on flat ground I can wheelie for about 20ft but not much more.

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому

      20 feet is great!

    • @hunterburgess2622
      @hunterburgess2622 3 роки тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss thanks!!! When I actually try to manuel on flat ground I don't have the balance its not pretty haha.. Seem to have better balance with the wheelie

  • @jeffreyroelofse2232
    @jeffreyroelofse2232 3 роки тому

    Hello Jeff.
    Love youre video's. I am learning the manual, but on a full suspension bike. Is it easyer with my rear shock locked or unlocked? Hope to here from you.
    Greetings from the netherlands

  • @keithwukmir4452
    @keithwukmir4452 3 роки тому

    Look for 30 inch bmx w BB at or below two axels line.

  • @zsirrr
    @zsirrr 11 місяців тому

    I need to work on the hinge thing…I know I’m doing that but I’m not grasping how to stop it.. does it have to do with how low the back pedal is?

  • @markush9869
    @markush9869 2 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @AleksCoreBY
    @AleksCoreBY 2 роки тому

    I was learning to do manual, the first step is to pull front wheel high enough. But I forgot to put a finger on brakes lol.. Fell off. For some reason brain is too busy trying to remember what movements need to do all together and we are forgetting what can go wrong. Hurts :( I need to buy a protection (knee pads, elbow pads, full finger gloves and helmet) then I can continue learning I guess.

  • @Yoda-em5mt
    @Yoda-em5mt Рік тому +1

    Hey jeffe do find the front wheel is not as high manualling compared to a seated wheelie i,m the same height as you and can keep it up for maybe 3 bike lengths but want to manual like jkw or you ha ha .

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  Рік тому

      Hey! Good question. Seated wheelies will always have a higher front wheel. That’s where the balance point is. JKW does more of a standing coaster wheelie than a manual. His front end stays super high and he uses a lot of rear brake. In order to go far that way you need a good downslope. When your front end is low you need to have your hips pretty low and far back but that will give you the most stability.

    • @Yoda-em5mt
      @Yoda-em5mt Рік тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss thanks Jeffe makes sense your the Boss . I,m of to practice down a big grassy hill .

  • @murphykim9074
    @murphykim9074 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Jeff, thanks for sharing. Is it more harder to do manual using clipless pedals? I seldom see riders doing manuals or wheelies using clipless.

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому +1

      It’s not harder but it’s scarier since a lot of riders don’t feel safe needing to clip out in the event they go too far back. That’s really the only reason people say to practice using flat pedals.

    • @murphykim9074
      @murphykim9074 3 роки тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Ok guess it not for me as I am a clipless guy....:P

  • @FedericoTesta1
    @FedericoTesta1 Рік тому +1

    I can't really get my waist behind the rear hub, i am pretty short with short arms and legs. Any tips?

  • @omerpeleg
    @omerpeleg 3 роки тому +1

    I'm trying to understand the hinge tip better. Do you mean that when you preload you should bend your knees instead of bending at your waist? This happens before you push your bike forward?

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому

      I’m saying that a lot of people shoot their butt back and fold at the waist. It’s ok to bend in order to preload but then you want to have your back straight and shoulders open as you finish

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому

      Make sense?

    • @omerpeleg
      @omerpeleg 3 роки тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss Ok I think this really could be my problem. I think this might also coincide with having your head down. Got it. Going to try it out tomorrow!

  • @tarikmoore849
    @tarikmoore849 3 роки тому +1

    Swore I saw some old school ESU video in there 👀

  • @ryanwest9267
    @ryanwest9267 3 роки тому +1

    thx dawg

  • @stevefoley3812
    @stevefoley3812 3 роки тому

    Finally got an actual mountain bike and need to find some trails in nj. I saw the video at tiger woods but need more beginner trails, no technicals yet. Any suggestions?

  • @MrTrav36
    @MrTrav36 3 роки тому +1

    Are you pushing forward through your pedals as your hips of back ?

  • @quincy9293
    @quincy9293 2 роки тому +1

    I just found that pushing the bike forward with my feet seems to work better for me

  • @richie_k_6876
    @richie_k_6876 3 роки тому +5

    Yeah my manuals definitely suck trying to learn those for 10 years well I guess for another 10 ..😂😂

  • @gayabaru7465
    @gayabaru7465 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks u jeff

  • @TrevJ83
    @TrevJ83 3 роки тому +1

    On my 29er I find it quite difficult to get back far enough to raise the front wheel
    Any tips ?

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому

      What size bike are you riding? You might need to keep the front end higher if you can’t get back far enough with it low.

  • @FunyAnimals37
    @FunyAnimals37 Місяць тому

    i cant get my front wheel so high i wanne learn to bunny hop to and get both wheels of ground but its hard

  • @ken1969waka
    @ken1969waka 3 роки тому +1

    かっこいいーーー!ラジャ!

  • @ruizbrian1051
    @ruizbrian1051 3 роки тому +3

    Nice intro

  • @m4tzeeh
    @m4tzeeh 2 роки тому

    What kind of bike is that, just some regular hardtail MTB? How much KG does it weight?
    The jumps look ridiculously easy, as if the bike doesn't have any weight at all.
    Just wondering because I see most youtubers ride fully's.

  • @kwilson4880
    @kwilson4880 3 роки тому +4

    Me now: oh this looks easy let me try it.
    Me in 10 minutes: 👁👄👁

  • @Jockey04X
    @Jockey04X Рік тому

    Nice!

  • @leianrosacena4313
    @leianrosacena4313 2 роки тому

    I use my brake to much and i cant stop any tips

  • @partmowtow9745
    @partmowtow9745 3 роки тому +1

    Why am so scared on falling down😭😭😭😭

  • @clarkluthor8400
    @clarkluthor8400 2 роки тому

    does it work with any ordinary bike?

  • @SDR
    @SDR 2 роки тому

    고마워 친구!

  • @unpopulartruths4531
    @unpopulartruths4531 2 роки тому

    You're creating a unicycle balance point

  • @Rockybikelife
    @Rockybikelife 11 місяців тому

    For sum reason i cant get the wheele up

  • @alexhorvath5074
    @alexhorvath5074 Рік тому

    If you lift my old heavy hardtail bike I will believe you.

  • @Volt754
    @Volt754 Рік тому

    I finally got the manual and I hit the rear brakes and then I hit my balls on the seat... it hurt😭

  • @JaredHoff
    @JaredHoff 3 роки тому +1

    I’m going to have to film myself because I’m probably doing all of those things 😂

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому +1

      Filming yourself is one of the most useful things you can go. A lot of times we THINK we're doing something and when we see it in a video we realize we might not be!

    • @JaredHoff
      @JaredHoff 3 роки тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss definitely! Thanks man

  • @alicenchainrings1326
    @alicenchainrings1326 3 роки тому +2

    Is it easier to learn manuals on a full suspension or hard tail?

    • @marcfreshart
      @marcfreshart 3 роки тому

      Hardtail. The rear shock adds extra movement

  • @syed_tunes
    @syed_tunes Рік тому

    I fell down behind and hit my waist today on hard road. Opps it’s painful

  • @miktub1555
    @miktub1555 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah right

  • @SithaNelani
    @SithaNelani Рік тому

    I can hold it but not without going side to side

  • @mikieson
    @mikieson 3 роки тому +1

    good grief..you posted this like 5 minutes ago and have over 300 views..lol..im lucky to get 5 views in a years time lol :D BOSS IT UP BRO!!

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  3 роки тому

      Hoping this series does well!

    • @mikieson
      @mikieson 3 роки тому

      @@JeffLenoskyTrailBoss i see why not..you always seem to get the traffic on here..you got this!! stay AWESOME bud!

  • @twfreeride8932
    @twfreeride8932 3 роки тому

    I am too small and can’t get my front wheel up high enough….

  • @menemismix
    @menemismix 3 роки тому +1

    I’m bad at everything 😑

  • @Po7ent
    @Po7ent 3 роки тому +1

    Rule #1 you can’t be a weenie. It takes muscle memory

  • @hamiltonYazakuro
    @hamiltonYazakuro 2 роки тому

    I can’t even get the front wheel up.

  • @kevinjamesdawes7223
    @kevinjamesdawes7223 8 місяців тому +1

    It's having a bike that's too small for you that makes them pointless. Doing a manual on a bike of the right size is more related to a bunny hop backwards not up. But this needs a very precise amount of backwards thrust. Watching these guys is a waste of time really because the bike you own is right for riding not trials and tricks. Look at this guy. 6.2? Just straightening his arms puts his hips near the outside edge of the wheel. Now check yours. You might get past the axle with a short stem. I went out the back door a few times mastering it on a proper size frame and someday were better than others. But was handy for downhill.

    • @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss
      @JeffLenoskyTrailBoss  8 місяців тому

      I’m 6’4” so it’s definitely easier for me to have my weight further back. If you’re shorter you’ll
      Usually need to have your front wheel higher so that your weight can be in the proper balance point. I wouldn’t say it’s pointless, every bike and every rider will have a different balance point, these are just general tips.

  • @leonardmohr9450
    @leonardmohr9450 3 роки тому +1

    Videos are super helpful, but the negative titles make me sad :(

  • @blueeyedbiker681
    @blueeyedbiker681 3 роки тому +1

    FIRST BABY