Just bought an x model in 360. It’s for use here in Florida where the term “thick woods” is a vast understatement by the power of 10. Seldom do I get a shot of 100 yards so I have no need for a credmore. Launching a 200 grain bullet at 2000 fps plus almost guarantees I won’t have to track a critter for 2 hours with a machete in my hand.
Im the only one with a rifle chambered in 360 BHMR in Norway. No factory ammo available here, and I have to make the cases myself from 30-30 Win cases. Its alive and well here :)
@@PassivePortfolios Difficult to say. Lever action calibers has it fair share of followers/users. But for big game hunting there is three calibers that are most common. The 6,5x55, 308 Win and 30-06. But more and more hunters is opening their eyes for the short carbines and "brush calibers"
As a reloader the 360 Buckhammer makes a lot of sense: It outperforms the 357 max and 35 rem at all distances, better performance than the 30-30 up to 200 yards (great for woods), inherits the wide bullet variety in shapes and weights in 35 cal(mature, tested, bullets designs), straight wall means longer case life and ease of reloading, and can easily convert 30-30 brass. If you think about it, even if the cartridge stopped being sold and supported overnight; you would never run out of reloading components! Another advantage for these kinds of restricted cartridges is that some places like MI have so many deer they are allowing straight wall cartridges during muzzleloader season, so you don't need to purchase and learn a new platform if you already have a legal hunting arm. That's not to say that the 360 is going to be the end-all-be-all deer cartridge, people keep taking deer with all manner of cartridges even some that haven't been in production for a hundred years. Use what you enjoy and have fun. I just built an SSK-50 contender clone and got me a 360 buckhammer barrel, I'm betting it's going to be great this season. When this cartridge was introduced it was hard to find on shelves but now I see it at many big box stores, hopefully they keep up production for the hunting season for those that don't reload.
@@johnathanmurray4777 the Federal Hammerdown load finally came in stock on a couple of websites. I ordered myself a box to test out. I'd like to see how it compares to the 200 grain loads in thick brush.
I live in Michigan so we have the bullet restrictions and I live below the rifle boundary line. So I have been trying to get a Henry lever action 360 buck hammer. I have been checking retailers near me and haven't been able to find one been looking for a while.
I bought a Savage .350 Legend a year or two ago. I haven't killed anything with it yet. But I just bought a Henry .360 Buckhammer last week. I did this for multiple reasons. First is because in all the ballistic gel tests I've seen, the .350 legend bullet does not mushroom. A .360 Buckhammer does. My .350 legend only holds 5 rounds, vs the 7 rounds of the Buckhammer. Follow up shots are quicker in the Buckhammer because your trigger hand goes right back to the trigger after completing the reload cycle. There's only two movements in the lever action. Down and up. Versus the 6 movements in a bolt action. 1) Move hand from stock to bolt handle. 2) Lift bolt handle. 3) Move bolt to the rear. 4) Move bolt forward. 5) Lower bolt handle. 6) Return hand to stock. Granted, it's only fractions of a second for each movement, but all those actions add up. A lever action rifle is just much faster for follow up shots. If needed.
I certainly hope not. Thankfully we don’t have straight wall laws in TN but as is now, though, we can’t get the Remington 200 gr Core-lokts to reload the 35 Rem OR the 360 BHR and so if anything that makes them both sort of dead in my mind. Still, my 35 Rem Marlin 336cs is my favorite deer rifle for the woods.
Academy doesn't have any 360 buckhammer ammo atm, but i did see it in stock at Walmart in Texas, for $31 a box If it is better ballistics wise to a 35 rem, and the ammo is cheaper, and more available as well, then even tho im not in a straight wall state it looks good for a heavy brush gun
Iowa used to be a strait wall state but now allows bottle necks over 35 cal. I honestly think 350 legend is an excellent cartridge and I will continue to use it for hunting but I feel like 360 bucket is gaining steam, slowly but it’s gaining. It was just released at the wrong time while 350 legend was super popular and everyone had already hopped on that wagon but I feeling like it’s coming around and I certainly plan on picking up a Henry X model in 360 very soon.
Remember folks, the 450 bushmaster wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms, i think the 360bh has a place, henry is leading the charge right now with some slick guns, might see a few 350 legend converts... ballistics seem darn good for whitetails in restriction states. ammo needs to catch up though.
I hunt in a straight wall area in a mix of woods and fields. When hunting fields, my favorite 44mag just could not reach out far enough. The 360 Buckhammer was the perfect solution. Now, when hunting woods, I will take the 44mag. When hunting fields; 360😁
You should use the 350 Legend like most everyone else. Cheap, widely available ammo, flat trajectory, low recoil and plenty of stopping power for deer. Also the bolt action rifles are half the cost of the lever action rifles in 360 BH.
@@PassivePortfolios You make good points. However, I am more a hunter than a shooter- so after sighting in my gun, 1-2 bullets a season is all I use; so cost per bullet doesn't bother me. I am also a classic lever gun lover, so pointy bullets don't work.
I live in Louisiana and here we can use a .35 caliber or larger center fire in a breech load rifle with an exposed hammer for primitive season(nothing primitive about it). Most people here use .35 whelen but ammo is really hard to find and very expensive. The 360 is another option for primitive season here. I have one in a Henry single shot and it shoots well and doesn’t have near the recoil as the 35 whelen.
From my experience of hand loading or many years, the rimmed case with a capacity nearly 40 grains behind a premium spire point around 200 grains which should produce nearly 2400 fps…..? Here in Delmarva, which legalized the straight wall parameters, the scenario is thick woods and grown cutovers, plus open flat crop fields, the possibility of a 200 or so yard shot occurs. In addition the necessary punch to anchor the animal so it doesn’t make it into extremely thick cover, which becomes very complicated around here! Until the approval of these cartridges it was shotgun or muzzle loaders only. I have been using a custom Contender rifle in 357 Maximum for several years with good results, but I like the idea of a little more horsepower and range along with the accuracy I demand from my rifles. There is no handicap using a single shot firearm hunting in my experience.
I use the 360bh in ohio and have taken only two deer with it so far with very little tracking love lever action rifles have used 444 marlin as well but it's more costly for ammo and much more recoil
I think people were probably against the most because at one time the ammo companies couldn't keep up with the traditional let alone with the new and people are just gonna hate new stuff
I live in a straight wall case state and have yet to see any 360 in our stores so I would say it probably won’t catch on here. We do have an endless supply of 350 though. Maybe they are just waiting on more rifles to come out in the 360. Who knows.
350 has also been around longer. I don't see much 360 here, but I also live in Missouri where it's not required to use a straight wall. I do see lots of people with the rifles on Facebook though. They seem to like them.
@@redneckmini14I disagree. I live in a straightwall state and lots of guys have been buying the 400L or 360BH over the 450BM. These guys have been shooting 12 gauge slugs their entire life and now that they can shoot a rifle they want less recoil. Those two rounds approach the 450's energy and speed but recoils more like a 30-30. I don't think these new rounds are going anywhere.
I'm well aware of the BLR and all the other non traditional lever action rifles like the Savage 99 and Winchester 1895. Just because I haven't been around the sun 60 times, doesn't mean I'm stupid.
The 360 BH is the straight wall reincarnation of the old 356 Winchester, now defunct. It seems that .35 cal. rounds do not catch on in the US and Canada which domed the 360 BH to failure. It's best chance was in Alaska for bears and moose but the 30-06 has a flatter trajectory and the 45-70 has better stopping power on the big bears. The 350 Legend rules in the straight wall states, available in cheap but accurate bolt action rifles. It is a good deer harvester and nothing more powerful is needed. RIP for the 360 BH.
360BH will out perform 350 legend all day long. Particularly on Real game. 350 in my area lots of cripples, no blood trails and lost deer. 360 faster and heavier. We all know what the 30 30 and the 35 rem can do and the 360bh out performs both. It’s gonna be around for a while. It’s just getting started. My .02
The 350 Legend has identical ballistics to the 35 Rem. which has been a better stopper than the 30-30. The 350 Legend is the most popular cartridge in the straight wall states because it is effective, cheap, widely available and doesn't kick much. And it is available in bolt action rifles which cost half of what the price of lever action rifles. That is why the 360 BH is doomed to failure.
@@PassivePortfolios If what I have heard from others is true, then the 350 Legend is not even close to what the 35 Remington is. But I have no experience with either, so I can't say much.
@@redneckmini14 180 grain vs 200 grain bullets, the 350 Legend is about 100 fps faster than the 35 Rem so it is a toss up. 350 Legend 180 grain is also about equivalent to 170 grain 30-30, a proven game getter. So the idea that the 350 Legend is inadequate is simply not true.
@@PassivePortfolios I'm sure it is plenty powerful, but it sure seems like a lot of people who supposedly have experience with the 350 claim it does not perform as well as other rounds. I personally would like to get one for myself and test it out and compare it to the 360.
I used to think poorly of the NEW rounds BUT traveling around my State of GA daily made me realize that hunting land is becoming Much smaller and the need 4 straight walled Cartridges with enuff KNOCK down power to KILL FAST but will not travel 3 counties is REAL!
The 350 Legend rules straight wall states and I don't see anything which will change that. It is the perfect cartridge given those restrictions. Basically a more powerful 357 Maximum. The 350 Legend is beating the 444, 45-70 and 450 in those states.
.35 Remington is very expensive and is a one caliber case. I’m planning on getting a T/C Encore barrel but not reducing the .30-30 case to 1.81 inches. It’s an old wildcat called .35-30. .30-30s are a dime a dozen and just laying on the ground at the rifle range.
The 444 is too long for Ohio. My relatives over there use the 350 Legend with no problems. It is the most popular hunting round in Ohio. Not sure about the rules in other straight wall states but most have length limitations.
Maryland is straight wall with no length restrictions... I do have a 350 Legend CVA and a Henry model x in 45-70 and still will buy a 360 Buckhammer because I like the 35 Remington round but im not allowed to use it in my part of Maryland..
Just bought an x model in 360. It’s for use here in Florida where the term “thick woods” is a vast understatement by the power of 10. Seldom do I get a shot of 100 yards so I have no need for a credmore. Launching a 200 grain bullet at 2000 fps plus almost guarantees I won’t have to track a critter for 2 hours with a machete in my hand.
2 hours of tracking through the swamp and palmettos and or mangroves.
Probably a great hog hunting round
Im the only one with a rifle chambered in 360 BHMR in Norway. No factory ammo available here, and I have to make the cases myself from 30-30 Win cases. Its alive and well here :)
I didn't even know Henry shipped guns to Norway.
Brownells Norway import and sell Henry's in Norway. Mostly 30-30's, 357's and 44's@@redneckmini14
Do you think the 360 BH will become more popular in Norway ?
@@PassivePortfolios Difficult to say. Lever action calibers has it fair share of followers/users. But for big game hunting there is three calibers that are most common. The 6,5x55, 308 Win and 30-06. But more and more hunters is opening their eyes for the short carbines and "brush calibers"
@@christerhauknes6840 Thank you for the insight.
As a reloader the 360 Buckhammer makes a lot of sense: It outperforms the 357 max and 35 rem at all distances, better performance than the 30-30 up to 200 yards (great for woods), inherits the wide bullet variety in shapes and weights in 35 cal(mature, tested, bullets designs), straight wall means longer case life and ease of reloading, and can easily convert 30-30 brass. If you think about it, even if the cartridge stopped being sold and supported overnight; you would never run out of reloading components! Another advantage for these kinds of restricted cartridges is that some places like MI have so many deer they are allowing straight wall cartridges during muzzleloader season, so you don't need to purchase and learn a new platform if you already have a legal hunting arm.
That's not to say that the 360 is going to be the end-all-be-all deer cartridge, people keep taking deer with all manner of cartridges even some that haven't been in production for a hundred years. Use what you enjoy and have fun. I just built an SSK-50 contender clone and got me a 360 buckhammer barrel, I'm betting it's going to be great this season. When this cartridge was introduced it was hard to find on shelves but now I see it at many big box stores, hopefully they keep up production for the hunting season for those that don't reload.
@@johnathanmurray4777 the Federal Hammerdown load finally came in stock on a couple of websites. I ordered myself a box to test out. I'd like to see how it compares to the 200 grain loads in thick brush.
I live in Michigan so we have the bullet restrictions and I live below the rifle boundary line. So I have been trying to get a Henry lever action 360 buck hammer. I have been checking retailers near me and haven't been able to find one been looking for a while.
@@weeway2007 I got mine off gunbroker.
I bought a Savage .350 Legend a year or two ago. I haven't killed anything with it yet. But I just bought a Henry .360 Buckhammer last week. I did this for multiple reasons. First is because in all the ballistic gel tests I've seen, the .350 legend bullet does not mushroom. A .360 Buckhammer does. My .350 legend only holds 5 rounds, vs the 7 rounds of the Buckhammer. Follow up shots are quicker in the Buckhammer because your trigger hand goes right back to the trigger after completing the reload cycle. There's only two movements in the lever action. Down and up. Versus the 6 movements in a bolt action.
1) Move hand from stock to bolt handle.
2) Lift bolt handle.
3) Move bolt to the rear.
4) Move bolt forward.
5) Lower bolt handle.
6) Return hand to stock.
Granted, it's only fractions of a second for each movement, but all those actions add up. A lever action rifle is just much faster for follow up shots. If needed.
@@stevenfaul5630 I would like a 350 legend as well, but I probably won't be able to get one for a while. I really like the Ruger Scout Rifle.
I certainly hope not. Thankfully we don’t have straight wall laws in TN but as is now, though, we can’t get the Remington 200 gr Core-lokts to reload the 35 Rem OR the 360 BHR and so if anything that makes them both sort of dead in my mind. Still, my 35 Rem Marlin 336cs is my favorite deer rifle for the woods.
Well spoken and common sense talking points.
I am thinking I would like a CVA Scout in 360 buck hammer.
@@steventanner1428 I bought a Henry Big Boy in .360. I already love it, and I haven't fired a shot.
Academy doesn't have any 360 buckhammer ammo atm, but i did see it in stock at Walmart in Texas, for $31 a box
If it is better ballistics wise to a 35 rem, and the ammo is cheaper, and more available as well, then even tho im not in a straight wall state it looks good for a heavy brush gun
That was my opinion as well. I can't wait for the new ammo offerings to finally hit the market. I want to test them all out.
I have a ssk 360 buckhammer barrel for my t/c encore and i love it
Iowa used to be a strait wall state but now allows bottle necks over 35 cal. I honestly think 350 legend is an excellent cartridge and I will continue to use it for hunting but I feel like 360 bucket is gaining steam, slowly but it’s gaining. It was just released at the wrong time while 350 legend was super popular and everyone had already hopped on that wagon but I feeling like it’s coming around and I certainly plan on picking up a Henry X model in 360 very soon.
Remember folks, the 450 bushmaster wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms, i think the 360bh has a place, henry is leading the charge right now with some slick guns, might see a few 350 legend converts... ballistics seem darn good for whitetails in restriction states. ammo needs to catch up though.
I hunt in a straight wall area in a mix of woods and fields. When hunting fields, my favorite 44mag just could not reach out far enough. The 360 Buckhammer was the perfect solution. Now, when hunting woods, I will take the 44mag. When hunting fields; 360😁
You should use the 350 Legend like most everyone else. Cheap, widely available ammo, flat trajectory, low recoil and plenty of stopping power for deer. Also the bolt action rifles are half the cost of the lever action rifles in 360 BH.
@@PassivePortfolios You make good points. However, I am more a hunter than a shooter- so after sighting in my gun, 1-2 bullets a season is all I use; so cost per bullet doesn't bother me. I am also a classic lever gun lover, so pointy bullets don't work.
I live in Louisiana and here we can use a .35 caliber or larger center fire in a breech load rifle with an exposed hammer for primitive season(nothing primitive about it). Most people here use .35 whelen but ammo is really hard to find and very expensive. The 360 is another option for primitive season here. I have one in a Henry single shot and it shoots well and doesn’t have near the recoil as the 35 whelen.
From my experience of hand loading or many years, the rimmed case with a capacity nearly 40 grains behind a premium spire point around 200 grains which should produce nearly 2400 fps…..? Here in Delmarva, which legalized the straight wall parameters, the scenario is thick woods and grown cutovers, plus open flat crop fields, the possibility of a 200 or so yard shot occurs. In addition the necessary punch to anchor the animal so it doesn’t make it into extremely thick cover, which becomes very complicated around here! Until the approval of these cartridges it was shotgun or muzzle loaders only. I have been using a custom Contender rifle in 357 Maximum for several years with good results, but I like the idea of a little more horsepower and range along with the accuracy I demand from my rifles. There is no handicap using a single shot firearm hunting in my experience.
I use the 360bh in ohio and have taken only two deer with it so far with very little tracking love lever action rifles have used 444 marlin as well but it's more costly for ammo and much more recoil
I think people were probably against the most because at one time the ammo companies couldn't keep up with the traditional let alone with the new and people are just gonna hate new stuff
I live in a straight wall case state and have yet to see any 360 in our stores so I would say it probably won’t catch on here. We do have an endless supply of 350 though. Maybe they are just waiting on more rifles to come out in the 360. Who knows.
350 has also been around longer. I don't see much 360 here, but I also live in Missouri where it's not required to use a straight wall. I do see lots of people with the rifles on Facebook though. They seem to like them.
@@redneckmini14 sorry I should have said straight wall for public . Not private. Indiana here.
The 350 Legend rules the straight wall states. I don't see anything knocking it from the top.
Nothing can replace the 450 Bushmaster
I don't think it is trying to replace it.
@@redneckmini14I disagree. I live in a straightwall state and lots of guys have been buying the 400L or 360BH over the 450BM. These guys have been shooting 12 gauge slugs their entire life and now that they can shoot a rifle they want less recoil. Those two rounds approach the 450's energy and speed but recoils more like a 30-30. I don't think these new rounds are going anywhere.
There is a modern box mag feed lever action it’s called the Browning BLR. It’s been around for a very long time young man.
I'm well aware of the BLR and all the other non traditional lever action rifles like the Savage 99 and Winchester 1895. Just because I haven't been around the sun 60 times, doesn't mean I'm stupid.
The 360 BH is the straight wall reincarnation of the old 356 Winchester, now defunct. It seems that .35 cal. rounds do not catch on in the US and Canada which domed the 360 BH to failure. It's best chance was in Alaska for bears and moose but the 30-06 has a flatter trajectory and the 45-70 has better stopping power on the big bears. The 350 Legend rules in the straight wall states, available in cheap but accurate bolt action rifles. It is a good deer harvester and nothing more powerful is needed. RIP for the 360 BH.
I think he is talking to you in this video.
360BH will out perform 350 legend all day long. Particularly on Real game. 350 in my area lots of cripples, no blood trails and lost deer. 360 faster and heavier. We all know what the 30 30 and the 35 rem can do and the 360bh out performs both. It’s gonna be around for a while. It’s just getting started. My .02
I have heard lots of people say it will outperform the 350. That was one of my main reasons for getting my 360 over a 350.
The 350 Legend has identical ballistics to the 35 Rem. which has been a better stopper than the 30-30. The 350 Legend is the most popular cartridge in the straight wall states because it is effective, cheap, widely available and doesn't kick much. And it is available in bolt action rifles which cost half of what the price of lever action rifles. That is why the 360 BH is doomed to failure.
@@PassivePortfolios If what I have heard from others is true, then the 350 Legend is not even close to what the 35 Remington is. But I have no experience with either, so I can't say much.
@@redneckmini14 180 grain vs 200 grain bullets, the 350 Legend is about 100 fps faster than the 35 Rem so it is a toss up. 350 Legend 180 grain is also about equivalent to 170 grain 30-30, a proven game getter. So the idea that the 350 Legend is inadequate is simply not true.
@@PassivePortfolios I'm sure it is plenty powerful, but it sure seems like a lot of people who supposedly have experience with the 350 claim it does not perform as well as other rounds. I personally would like to get one for myself and test it out and compare it to the 360.
Make components available and people will experiment to the nth degree. Almost nobody shoots expensive factory ammo for fun.
I used to think poorly of the NEW rounds BUT traveling around my State of GA daily made me realize that hunting land is becoming Much smaller and the need 4 straight walled Cartridges with enuff KNOCK down power to KILL FAST but will not travel 3 counties is REAL!
The 350 Legend rules straight wall states and I don't see anything which will change that. It is the perfect cartridge given those restrictions. Basically a more powerful 357 Maximum. The 350 Legend is beating the 444, 45-70 and 450 in those states.
.35 Remington is very expensive and is a one caliber case. I’m planning on getting a T/C Encore barrel but not reducing the .30-30 case to 1.81 inches. It’s an old wildcat called .35-30. .30-30s are a dime a dozen and just laying on the ground at the rifle range.
@@allenfontenot7832 I could be wrong, but isn't the 35 Remington a cut down 30-06 casing?
I have hunted with 358 caliber rounds they knock down game right now.
most of the people calling 360 a dead round dont live in straight walled state. i think theres only room for 360 or 400 but we'll see.
Shotgun muzzleloader or handgun for me I'm in ohio but if i were going to shoot straight wall it would be 444 marlin
But is 444 legal? some states require a 1.8 inch or less case length. I know at least one state is different for public vs private land. Is that Ohio?
The 444 is too long for Ohio. My relatives over there use the 350 Legend with no problems. It is the most popular hunting round in Ohio. Not sure about the rules in other straight wall states but most have length limitations.
@@PassivePortfolios bull shit my family use one ohio has no case restrictions on straight wall cartridge
Maryland is straight wall with no length restrictions... I do have a 350 Legend CVA and a Henry model x in 45-70 and still will buy a 360 Buckhammer because I like the 35 Remington round but im not allowed to use it in my part of Maryland..