Hiya Luis! Always enjoy watching your videos and fascinated into how you have dissected the key barrel, removing broken spring debris to resolve a common stuck car key issue. Keep up the excellent work 😊
Happened to me on a seat Leon. Did same as u. Took barrel off, drilled into the barrel same as urself. Broken bits inside. Took them out and reassembled. When u start the car the key returns from the start/crank position. Once the car is started, Normally you cannot go to start/crank position until u turn the key completely to off. The mechanism that stops u accidentally cranking the engine when it is started was the bit that had broken and bits were jamming the key
Just fixed one of these in a caddy. Key sticking. It wasn’t the lock barrel or the key but the cast mechanism - changed it (£15 ebay) and all sorted. Didn’t have to remove the airbag or steering wheel - just used a punch to remove the security screws.
Thank you so much for the super informative and thorough video! My VW GOLF is now having exactly the same problem, your video has helped me understand the situation much better! I have two questions though: 1. At 8:06, you can turn that thing with the screwdriver freely without any problem, but why at 9:03, you cannot turn that thing with the screwdriver any more (because of the steering lock?). I wonder what made the difference? 2. at 6:52, you said "finally managed to get this out". Could I ask how you actually managed to get the key to rotate to "on" position though? Did you just keep hitting the barrel with a hammer? Or did you do sth else? Thank you so much in advance!
Hi I kept hitting it, and trying until it moved. The reason why it stopped moving later, as I said on the video, was because what was in there loose inside the lock, ended up moving and jamming the lock again... Remember that at this point, I haven't had the lock removed or opened... if you have watched the entire video you have seen what it was... 👍👍👍
Thanks for that, I had the exact same problem this morning except the steering wheel stays unlocked with the key off. Apart from that, couldn't turn on or off without applying a lot of force, but I now have it to the point where it's OKish to turn it on and off without too much force. I'll have to investigate further but I'm sure something snapped inside like yours and is messing with locking/unlocking.
@@LMAutoRepairs well yeah, after a few turns it got stuck again. Removing the mech from the car was not a big deal (except for these security bolts...) but I didn't remove the steering wheel or airbag. Pushing the plastic tab from underneath once the mech is unbolt indeed works. What I REALLY struggled with was removing the lock barrel... I could insert a rod/paperclip in the hole but it would never activate the latch. I had to drill a hole in the shell to then push the latch from the outside. Even with the barrel out, I can't activate the latch with the paperclip... Anyways, it broke in the exact same place as yours, but the small rod that goes in the steering lock is flattened / lost its spring so I think the spring on that small rod breaks, allows the small rod to stick out further and goes sideways / gets jammed / breaks the pieces around the opening it goes through. Not sure what this small rod is for, I'm yet to re-assemble and try to re-use the old mech, but I have a new non-genuine one. I'll try to fix the genuine one as the aftermarket's quality doesn't look great at all and I don't want to take everything apart again in 1 year when it breaks.
Turns out that small pin serves no functional purpose, maybe an extra anti tampering measure? I also drilled the black tab to remove the small tab that goes in once you remove the long rod, put everything back together and it works 100% now!
Thanks for the video but I don’t understand how you fix it, did you put everything together without the pins or the springs are missing or did you replace them? It looks like you assembled the part without changing anything?
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Great Video Luis! Have the exact same problem but in a 2.0TSI, 2013 155kw5N Tiguan 7spd Auto. So if the same part is worn/broken in mine and I reassemble, the only difference is that I will be able to remove the key when the Auto selector is in D, R, N and P?
Well, if you remove that syetm... Sometimes they brake beyond repair, and you remove the internals for the steering lock... on the automatics, the locking might be able to still be left in place... 👍👍👍
Luis i have a question did u use any special tool for replacement of the new clucth?! No lie at least i saw the old clucth on the floor kkkk , well all the best and keep up te excelent work .
@@LMAutoRepairs on The vê Passat that u had a Air leak and u Said that It was mistdiagnosed and so on , and to be Fair , nicely done . And It happen to me on my old banger i did change The clucth and The flywheel Seal and he improved alot , with on the speedometer e states 367 667 kilometers for a old Corsa b and petrol i think that IS good , well ALL The best ....
Nice My Citroën c4 Grand Picasso Patrol 1.8 have code p0172 I checked oxygen sensor is ok so are you Any idea what i check more thing Thanks in advance
They where small pieces that broken of from an internal edge... not really necessary... Yes, more can brake of, if you are worried that that will happen again, just remove the steering lock mechanism all together... Or, replace the entire lock... 👍👍👍
@@LMAutoRepairsProbably get the housing (casting, seems to be the culprit in most cases) on hand in case more 'stuff' is broken off on mine ($100 or so aftermarket). Can always return if not needed on only small inconsequential piece broke off.
Hi Luis, I’m a big fan of yours my dad and I have been watching your videos for a long time. Unfortunately we are having a little issue with our vehicle, it’s a VW Golf+ 2006, tumbles but non start, says immobiliser active. Is it possible for you to assist us with this issue ? We will very much appreciate it.
Hi Thank you for watching and follow the channel!... Can you communicate with all the modules? Is the immobiliser seeing the key in the ignition? Is the key transponder OK and transmitting? Have you checked fuses etc? You need to do a the checkes to narrow down the problem, otherwise it is impossible to make any calls... 👍👍👍
Thanks for your reply, sorry for troubling you during the Easter holidays! Yes we have checked all the fuses in the engine compartment and under steering column and all seems to be good. Not seeing flashing immobiliser light but it shows immobiliser active. I have a autel maxisys MS906 which I run a diagnostic check, came up with several fault codes inc ‘01176.008 key implausible signal active/static’. We tried clearing but it keeps coming back. Our machine cannot retrieve the pin to reactivate the immobiliser.
all vag group with this ignition have this problem, he break inside and he get lock, and impossible to use, in my company we repair them every weeks/months
They have a disease or something. In the recent months, I have changed 3 and for this week this is another one coming. The difficult part is the 2 cut screws but with a little patience you can manage it. Consumer products... Take care Luis.
Top job again Luis, no parts required, "just" expertise and perseverance.
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Hiya Luis! Always enjoy watching your videos and fascinated into how you have dissected the key barrel, removing broken spring debris to resolve a common stuck car key issue. Keep up the excellent work 😊
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Had that too in my car, held a used from car demontage with low milage and ready it is 💯
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good morning luis ivan (phad) would be proud of you and this repair a customer with plenty of fuel thats rare
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This problem always occurs in this type of car. The problem is the broken bolts. Thank you very much for the efforts
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How did you turned it at the on position?
That issue is inherent to that specific barrel, very common.
FYI Luis:
That Shizzel you used to tap the Security Bolts is actually called a Punch ❤
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Thanks for the info!
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Happened to me on a seat Leon.
Did same as u. Took barrel off, drilled into the barrel same as urself. Broken bits inside. Took them out and reassembled.
When u start the car the key returns from the start/crank position. Once the car is started, Normally you cannot go to start/crank position until u turn the key completely to off. The mechanism that stops u accidentally cranking the engine when it is started was the bit that had broken and bits were jamming the key
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Fixed! No parts needed! Awesome video. 👌
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Just fixed one of these in a caddy. Key sticking. It wasn’t the lock barrel or the key but the cast mechanism - changed it (£15 ebay) and all sorted. Didn’t have to remove the airbag or steering wheel - just used a punch to remove the security screws.
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Thank you so much for the super informative and thorough video! My VW GOLF is now having exactly the same problem, your video has helped me understand the situation much better!
I have two questions though: 1. At 8:06, you can turn that thing with the screwdriver freely without any problem, but why at 9:03, you cannot turn that thing with the screwdriver any more (because of the steering lock?). I wonder what made the difference?
2. at 6:52, you said "finally managed to get this out". Could I ask how you actually managed to get the key to rotate to "on" position though? Did you just keep hitting the barrel with a hammer? Or did you do sth else?
Thank you so much in advance!
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I kept hitting it, and trying until it moved.
The reason why it stopped moving later, as I said on the video, was because what was in there loose inside the lock, ended up moving and jamming the lock again...
Remember that at this point, I haven't had the lock removed or opened... if you have watched the entire video you have seen what it was...
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Thank you so much for the patient explanation! I hope I can get my lock fixed too @@LMAutoRepairs
Excellent Luis, love the teardowns!!! I had my head inside that keyhole just like you, lol!!❤
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Thanks for that, I had the exact same problem this morning except the steering wheel stays unlocked with the key off. Apart from that, couldn't turn on or off without applying a lot of force, but I now have it to the point where it's OKish to turn it on and off without too much force. I'll have to investigate further but I'm sure something snapped inside like yours and is messing with locking/unlocking.
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Do it before it completely fails and gets stuck...
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@@LMAutoRepairs well yeah, after a few turns it got stuck again. Removing the mech from the car was not a big deal (except for these security bolts...) but I didn't remove the steering wheel or airbag. Pushing the plastic tab from underneath once the mech is unbolt indeed works. What I REALLY struggled with was removing the lock barrel... I could insert a rod/paperclip in the hole but it would never activate the latch. I had to drill a hole in the shell to then push the latch from the outside. Even with the barrel out, I can't activate the latch with the paperclip... Anyways, it broke in the exact same place as yours, but the small rod that goes in the steering lock is flattened / lost its spring so I think the spring on that small rod breaks, allows the small rod to stick out further and goes sideways / gets jammed / breaks the pieces around the opening it goes through. Not sure what this small rod is for, I'm yet to re-assemble and try to re-use the old mech, but I have a new non-genuine one. I'll try to fix the genuine one as the aftermarket's quality doesn't look great at all and I don't want to take everything apart again in 1 year when it breaks.
Turns out that small pin serves no functional purpose, maybe an extra anti tampering measure? I also drilled the black tab to remove the small tab that goes in once you remove the long rod, put everything back together and it works 100% now!
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Great fix, certainly not for the faint hearted. I was afraid one of those tiny parts was going to roll into that gap in your workbench though 😄!
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if I change ignition switch what happend with inmobilizer
Nothing...
The switch is just that, a switch...
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If you didn’t touch the ECU, remote key or the dash. You have nothing to worry about to the immobiliser.
Was there any Steering Angle Sensor in the steering control module? Did you had to recalibrate it?
Can't recall on this one, but I done another one recently, different car though, ( video coming), and I didn't had to calibrate anything...
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Great work 😊I wouldn't be confident taking that lock apart 😅
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Is not that difficult to be fair...
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Great video as always Louis , really enjoy your videos keep up the great work
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Hey Louis! I have been watching your videos, keep up the good job. Can I ask You, You do cars only as a side job? And what’s your main job? Cheers.
Yes... it is a part-time/hobby...
My main job has nothing to do with cars...
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Thanks for the video but I don’t understand how you fix it, did you put everything together without the pins or the springs are missing or did you replace them? It looks like you assembled the part without changing anything?
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You can do it either way...
If you want to make sure it will not happen again, just remove the whole locking system...
ua-cam.com/video/WmKmf87CRIA/v-deo.htmlsi=U4wpKnryx60i_wu1
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@ Good video thank you to take the time and show this, very informative.
Great Video Luis!
Have the exact same problem but in a 2.0TSI, 2013 155kw5N Tiguan 7spd Auto. So if the same part is worn/broken in mine and I reassemble, the only difference is that I will be able to remove the key when the Auto selector is in D, R, N and P?
Well, if you remove that syetm...
Sometimes they brake beyond repair, and you remove the internals for the steering lock... on the automatics, the locking might be able to still be left in place...
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Thanks Luis, youre a legend!@@LMAutoRepairs
Luis i have a question did u use any special tool for replacement of the new clucth?! No lie at least i saw the old clucth on the floor kkkk , well all the best and keep up te excelent work .
Not sure which clutch you are referring to, but was not for this car...
Either way, no special tools...
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@@LMAutoRepairs on The vê Passat that u had a Air leak and u Said that It was mistdiagnosed and so on , and to be Fair , nicely done . And It happen to me on my old banger i did change The clucth and The flywheel Seal and he improved alot , with on the speedometer e states 367 667 kilometers for a old Corsa b and petrol i think that IS good , well ALL The best ....
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Now I understand...
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Hey Luis, great work! Where are you based? Would like for you to fix my car
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My Citroën c4 Grand Picasso Patrol 1.8 have code p0172
I checked oxygen sensor is ok so are you Any idea what i check more thing
Thanks in advance
A very informative channel.😊
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Very great and humble tutorial ❤
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That was again nicely done Luis.
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Was the broken/jammed part (spring? broken off metal pieces) somehow repaired? Or replaced?
They where small pieces that broken of from an internal edge... not really necessary...
Yes, more can brake of, if you are worried that that will happen again, just remove the steering lock mechanism all together...
Or, replace the entire lock...
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@@LMAutoRepairsProbably get the housing (casting, seems to be the culprit in most cases) on hand in case more 'stuff' is broken off on mine ($100 or so aftermarket). Can always return if not needed on only small inconsequential piece broke off.
WoW amazing Love the repair incredible😍
Thanks for sharing Bro Stay Safe👍
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Does the steeringlock still work?
Yes.
You can clearly see that it's moving up and down in the final checks that he does before he assembles everything.
No don't work it doesn't block 21:50
Prime example of over engineering something and causing failure points. None of those parts are needed. And the lock works better without them.
It's 100% intentional as well, built to fail.
Some time ago in my Golf 7 key only spin in ignition without actually turning it on or going out but i dont know how it fixed
Hi Luis, I’m a big fan of yours my dad and I have been watching your videos for a long time. Unfortunately we are having a little issue with our vehicle, it’s a VW Golf+ 2006, tumbles but non start, says immobiliser active.
Is it possible for you to assist us with this issue ?
We will very much appreciate it.
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Thank you for watching and follow the channel!...
Can you communicate with all the modules?
Is the immobiliser seeing the key in the ignition?
Is the key transponder OK and transmitting?
Have you checked fuses etc?
You need to do a the checkes to narrow down the problem, otherwise it is impossible to make any calls...
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Thanks for your reply, sorry for troubling you during the Easter holidays!
Yes we have checked all the fuses in the engine compartment and under steering column and all seems to be good. Not seeing flashing immobiliser light but it shows immobiliser active. I have a autel maxisys MS906 which I run a diagnostic check, came up with several fault codes inc ‘01176.008 key implausible signal active/static’. We tried clearing but it keeps coming back. Our machine cannot retrieve the pin to reactivate the immobiliser.
Well, I need to start by checking that the key is transmitting, then that the antenna is working, and go from there...
Thanks alot we had another fault in system which was the intake manifold flap faulty
Thanks for your help Luis
Great work! where abouts you live, i might need fixing a car if you are up for it?!
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Nice repair video
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Good day, VW polo 2017 BCM can it be cloned?
With the correct tools, probably... never had to do one...
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Having the same problem with my sharan,couldn’t turn it on
Now you know how to fix it...😉
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Fixing cars is not your full time job? What it is if u dont mind sharing. Thanks
No, is not... this is just a part-time on my days off...
My main job has absolutely nothing to do with cars...🤪
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I am really curious to know your full time Job
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In my experience it will just get stuck again very quickly. Best to just replace the housing and call it a day. 🤷♂️
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If I replace the housing, would I need to reprogram anything? Or would the old key work fine with the new housing?
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If you keep the barrel should work with old keys...
This is a mechanical system... no programming needed...
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all vag group with this ignition have this problem, he break inside and he get lock, and impossible to use, in my company we repair them every weeks/months
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Excellent work.
Thanks!
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They have a disease or something. In the recent months, I have changed 3 and for this week this is another one coming. The difficult part is the 2 cut screws but with a little patience you can manage it. Consumer products... Take care Luis.
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That happens all the time VW Audi
just change with new.
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Thank you good job
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It’s easy to repair them. I take them down from the console,take them to pieces and “cancel” the steering lock piece. Then no more problems
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Gud job
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Louis my locksmith
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First one i see breaking
Nice Story Bruh 🤯😐❤️🤔😶🌫️🫠
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