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  • @shaheerrahman87
    @shaheerrahman87 4 місяці тому +5

    Is Loresum short for Lorem Ipsum, which is something you put in when you don't have the final text?😂

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому +2

      Hahaha OK now you've said that I can't unsee it. I'm going to ask the brand owner... Will get back to you

    • @edwardblack7133
      @edwardblack7133 4 місяці тому +1

      It is he mentions in his IG

    • @shaheerrahman87
      @shaheerrahman87 4 місяці тому

      @@edwardblack7133 Jesus 😅 How lazy can people be!

    • @CoolWatchesOnly
      @CoolWatchesOnly 2 місяці тому

      my exact thoughts 🤣

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. 4 місяці тому +2

    Nice find mate! I don't mind the capped pinion and I would always go with the Miyota rather than the Sellita, especially when is such a difference in price. I do like Christopher Ward but the its complete lack of indices the C1 Moonglow isn't for me. They found and elegant solution for this Loresum.

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому

      Nice one, Alex! Honestly, I think both a pretty stunning - my main hangup with the CW would be the price and the slightly bigger diameter. You're right, though - the lack of precise timekeeping might get me a bit wound up over time! (pun intended)

    • @andrewhlavacek9058
      @andrewhlavacek9058 4 місяці тому

      What's more, the Sellita version is more expensive even though, by some estimates, it's a less accurate movement.

  • @Walnutman5700
    @Walnutman5700 4 місяці тому +2

    I've got one on order! Thanks for the review. I think I'll go with the gold one. The CW is too expensive for me and I don't need the Swiss movement in either watch!

  • @robertmcnee682
    @robertmcnee682 4 місяці тому +1

    Black one looks cool + we need more oblivion references

  • @turnbasedtoddy7664
    @turnbasedtoddy7664 4 місяці тому

    This was so well put together. I like that you talked about coincidence and how sometimes things just happen at the same time.

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому

      Thanks very much, mate! I really appreciate the kind words

  • @lammyjammer6670
    @lammyjammer6670 4 місяці тому +1

    There are certain mathematical requirements for the moon phase wheel to work properly on the display cut out. If you notice most moon phase watches have a very similar shaped cutout regardless of size. The curves match the curvature of the moon to be able to cover it exactly at the correct intervals.
    In that sense, nobody is copying anyone. Everyone's designing within the same limitations and thus, end up producing very similar outcomes 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, that's true! But I think even with that caveat, these two are strikingly similar looking. Like, there are also small moonphase complications, some on different parts of the dial, so this execution, although not uncommon, combined with the other elements, has made people jump to the conclusion that one copied the other

    • @lammyjammer6670
      @lammyjammer6670 4 місяці тому

      @@LumePip Let's see... Big ass moon on a dial made of a material that simulates a sky full of stars at night pretty well...
      The only thing both designers are guilty of is lack of imagination since putting those elements together is oxymoronic but yeah... the people accusing one or the other of plagiarism are really just showing their bias 🤣

    • @richardpool9970
      @richardpool9970 4 місяці тому

      Been following Loresum since the LS02 and I think that the LS04 is actually an obvious iteration of the LS03 where many people were asking for a proper moonphase (i.e. 29.5 days). The LS04 is the first one I felt was the right size for my wrist as the other were around 49-50mm lug-to-lug.

  • @curry67
    @curry67 4 місяці тому

    nice vid. Id much rather have the C1 but im not a fan of these specific designs while being a huge moonphase fan. I like CW's latest moonphase its very legible and greatly lumed.

  • @jeffreyromain7336
    @jeffreyromain7336 4 місяці тому +2

    Can't beat a bit of Debbusy.

    • @RandyWanat
      @RandyWanat 4 місяці тому +1

      Always finish on the Bach, never on Debussy.

    • @jeffreyromain7336
      @jeffreyromain7336 4 місяці тому

      @@RandyWanat I think that you are Bach-ing up the wrong tree 😉

  • @richardpool9970
    @richardpool9970 4 місяці тому

    Worth noting that with the Miyota movement the moon with rotate anti-clockwise (i.e. right to left) and this is how the moon phases would appear in the southern hemisphere. The Sellita will rotate in the opposite direction (clockwise) so for people in the northern hemisphere that's technical the truest representation. Just a bit of a shame it's $200 more but I kind of understand why. There are also now 4 or 5 different dial and plating options including a partly white or black MOP dial so for me the choice alone (plus price difference) makes this more appealing than the C1 MoonGlow.
    Edit: Also worth noting that I think you need to reset/tweak the moonphase on the LS04 every 3 months but not for decades on the C1. Being pretty lazy myself this is a consideration 😀

    • @edwardblack7133
      @edwardblack7133 4 місяці тому

      Assuming you wear it all the time

    • @richardpool9970
      @richardpool9970 4 місяці тому

      @@edwardblack7133 Very true or use a winder

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому +1

      Great insight here, mate 👌the new colours look pretty amazing - I'd be really curious to see that black aventurine. And you're right - obviously the CW has a fancy pants movement that doesn't need the moonphase changing, but imagine that as a daily wear!

  • @harrietboulding1459
    @harrietboulding1459 4 місяці тому

    What a beautiful watch and insane review 👏🏼👏🏼

  • @mr.eswatchreviews
    @mr.eswatchreviews 4 місяці тому

    That's awesome very nice for the price

  • @davidobrien9362
    @davidobrien9362 4 місяці тому

    So C Ward,saw the watch..and put out thier own version within 3 days ? .do love the soround ,I'm sure not the bezel,is it the rehout,ah you just said it chapter ring,that looks great .

  • @benjaminvis
    @benjaminvis 3 місяці тому

    The Arnold and Sons is a great call! I prefer this to the CW. But there were a few too many details nagging me, from execution to preferences (like the oddly matched blue seconds hand) that have kept me from loving this design enough to back.

  • @kickstothehead3705
    @kickstothehead3705 4 місяці тому +5

    Don’t you think it’s weird how these adventuring dials are all over every dial from every micro brand and AliExpress brand at once it’s because they are all coming from the same factory and it just became able to get in their catalog and that’s why nobody’s saying they stole my idea, Because it’s all fair game in those catalogs…. Come on it’s obvious.

    • @D3ZG1978
      @D3ZG1978 4 місяці тому +1

      They aren’t all the same dials, some are better quality. Where did you get this information..?

    • @kickstothehead3705
      @kickstothehead3705 4 місяці тому

      @@D3ZG1978 it will be everywhere soon same 4 factory’s in the same city make most of the micro brands and Ali express I’m not going to name the companies and all that but you would be surprised… but take it with a ….

  • @adk7962
    @adk7962 4 місяці тому

    It’s a beautiful watch. And honestly, who can say what came first, 🐔🥚. Or if you want a similar look for $189, Sugess has one also. Thanks for the great review!

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому +2

      Nice one, mate! As it happens, I've also been filming a Sugess moonphase recently too...

  • @waynesellers4078
    @waynesellers4078 4 місяці тому

    I don't think you could possibly copy a design in 3 days, I would guess that whoever is making parts for CW has probably leaked designs.

  • @RansonJoe
    @RansonJoe 4 місяці тому

    Very nice review

  • @edwardblack7133
    @edwardblack7133 4 місяці тому

    With this or the CW didn't have a seconds hand
    I think it would be more elegant

  • @siclusiferx
    @siclusiferx 2 місяці тому

    The hands could be changed and voilà, a perfect watch..

  • @imranhusain1657
    @imranhusain1657 4 місяці тому

    The Meistersinger Lunascope, like Arnold was introduced before the CW.

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому

      That's a bit of a stunner, too!

  • @sweetcorn1968
    @sweetcorn1968 4 місяці тому

    Insanely Tedious Detail did a session on John Peel's show.

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому +1

      Caught them at the Bristol Academy supporting Overdrawn Anecdote. Set was 4 hours long and had no choruses.

  • @D3ZG1978
    @D3ZG1978 4 місяці тому

    Great video but how did Christopher ward steal a design that’s still on kickstarter…

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому

      Thanks very much - I do clearly insunate several times, though, that nobody's stolen anyone else's design, even though some people did assume that had happened. 👍

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 4 місяці тому

    perhaps

  • @finesse49
    @finesse49 4 місяці тому +2

    Telling people to f off isn't going to get you any friends. not subscribing.

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  4 місяці тому +6

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke

    • @knutjunker2019
      @knutjunker2019 4 місяці тому +2

      I subscribed just because of it :-)

    • @markotoole7937
      @markotoole7937 4 місяці тому +1

      British humour, that not everyone will understand lol.

    • @Jonzoman
      @Jonzoman 4 місяці тому

      Don’t subscribe and go watch something else then 🤷🏻‍♂️