Cary Silkin is one of the unsung heroes of professional wrestling who put his money where his mouth is in keeping ROH afloat. It was our honor to work with him on The Wrestler film. Tommy Dreamer also made many personal sacrifices for ECW; in a perfect world, things should have ended better for him there. I'm attending wrestling fifty years and watching it even longer and tell people that Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuiness in ROH and Terry Funk vs. Sabu in ECW are among the greatest matches I have EVER seen live. What magical memories. Wrestling can be a cruel business, but guys like Cary and Tommy Dreamer deserve to be acknowledged. And thank you, Dave LaGreca, for speaking so passionately about Cary and ROH.
I don’t understand even waisting time giving Tony Khan and AEW advice, when they’re just going to take it as criticism and get pissed and blame these guys for there failures.
ROH as the real ROH fans knew it ended in Baltimore in Dec of 2021 This pay per view felt like AEW lite with alot of great talent that doesn’t get used on AEW TV But it doesn’t make it Ring of Honor Ring of Honor was a special era But that spirit isn’t alive in AEW And Tony Khan IMO has demonstrated that his ego is more important than the authenticity of the brand he claimed to be a fan of
Fond memories of going to New York City to The Manhattan Center and The Hammerstein Ballroom: The Briscoes, The Kings of Wrestling, Kevin Steen and El Generico, The American Wolves, The All Night Express, The World's Greatest Tag Team, Samoa Joe, Jay Lethal, Nigel McGuiness, and so many others.
Dude talked abut how he almost walked into on of their wrestlemanias and shot a man, i know its paul heyman so they probaably get it but that stuff doesn't get your show a good name xD
TNA IS A CATASTROPHE. HOW CAN YOU BE CONSIDERED A SERIOUS COMPANY WHEN YOU ARE ASKING TALENT TO TAKE A PAY CUT AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN PAYING YEARLY SALARIES.
AEW has Samoa Joe, The Young Bucks, Bryan Danielson, Nigel McGuiness, Adam Cole, Kyle O' Reilly, Roderick Strong, Mark Briscoe, Jay Lethal and Claudio and NONE of them are on The heritage RoH show 😂😂😂.. "The best guy is Tony Khan!"- Dave Meltzer
You can’t sprinkle the entire card full of ROH nostalgia when you’re trying to build a new brand and a new show with the talent. The future of that particular show. All the guys that you mentioned that are part of AEW and need to move on with their AEW future not be held back to the past in Ring of Honor. Guys like Taven and Bennett need to stay away from the ROH shows, in order for them to prosper further as a talent and be bigger stars to begin with. This show isn’t a one night stand nostalgia show. Would it hurt to have a throwback match, no… the card doesn’t need to be littered with it.
Respect the passion Dave but y the fck wouldn't u wait to see the show then complain about originals being on the show most of the people u were pissed about not being on the show were lol taven,bennet,lethal,dutt,nigel,
You haven't been positive about ROH in a long time. The name is the only thing that hasn't changed. So why now complain that TK's not giving you a check to show up? If you actually care, go buy a ticket.
TK has burned another bridge. I can't believe Cary Silken didn't get invited, or isn't involved. I am now going to stop watching the AEW product. I hope AEW succeeds, but TK shit the bed on this.
Ok. Don't recognize Billie vs Athena, or Sons of Texas vs The Righteous in a Double Bullrope match which is 3 years after the Briscoes and FTR faced one another. Also Adam Cole is facing MJF next weekend at World's End. I'm sorry but tell me you're not paying attention to the current product when you are not paying attention to the current product. Also Bryan vs Nigel would not have happened because of Bryan's neck.
You do realize that there's this thing called planning ahead right? They're saying that they should have planned this 2 months ago. And also, them dropping the Cole MJF storyline wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
Nothing stays the same forever.....Thank you Dave and Tommy for having me on!
Cary Silkin is one of the unsung heroes of professional wrestling who put his money where his mouth is in keeping ROH afloat. It was our honor to work with him on The Wrestler film. Tommy Dreamer also made many personal sacrifices for ECW; in a perfect world, things should have ended better for him there. I'm attending wrestling fifty years and watching it even longer and tell people that Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuiness in ROH and Terry Funk vs. Sabu in ECW are among the greatest matches I have EVER seen live. What magical memories. Wrestling can be a cruel business, but guys like Cary and Tommy Dreamer deserve to be acknowledged. And thank you, Dave LaGreca, for speaking so passionately about Cary and ROH.
BUSTED OPEN 24/7 WE NEED IT NOW
I am now a fan of Dave 😂
Dave isn't lying about those Ring of Honor Shows going long. I can remember leaving ROH Shows after midnight.
Ah the success of failure. Definitely not a typo
I don’t understand even waisting time giving Tony Khan and AEW advice, when they’re just going to take it as criticism and get pissed and blame these guys for there failures.
ROH as the real ROH fans knew it ended in Baltimore in Dec of 2021
This pay per view felt like AEW lite with alot of great talent that doesn’t get used on AEW TV
But it doesn’t make it Ring of Honor
Ring of Honor was a special era
But that spirit isn’t alive in AEW
And Tony Khan IMO has demonstrated that his ego is more important than the authenticity of the brand he claimed to be a fan of
I love roh so much. The real roh. Not the aew version.
Fond memories of going to New York City to The Manhattan Center and The Hammerstein Ballroom: The Briscoes, The Kings of Wrestling, Kevin Steen and El Generico, The American Wolves, The All Night Express, The World's Greatest Tag Team, Samoa Joe, Jay Lethal, Nigel McGuiness, and so many others.
Still better than what WWE did with ECW.
AEW IS A BETTER VERSION OF ROH. THINK ABOUT IT.
@@chrispetrelis5013 no it's not.
@@chrispetrelis5013Highly disagree
Everytime bully talks about tony khan he finds a way to call him stupid. But dave rants about "disrespect"
Cary should have been invited!
Tony kahn doesnt want to make money, just have dream mathes. Tony k reminds me of the Insane clown posse song "Play with me"
Y’all know Tommy lying 🤥 them not personally inviting him to comeback to the ECW arena really bothered him lowkey 😂
Dude talked abut how he almost walked into on of their wrestlemanias and shot a man, i know its paul heyman so they probaably get it but that stuff doesn't get your show a good name xD
Neither of you were born by then! Stay in school, kids!
Tommy is kinda blacklisted from WWE for threatening to shoot Paul Heyman.
My Brother I went to House of Hardcore ShowS AT 2300 Arena formerly known ad The ECE Arena.
@@DomLab-g2nit’s irony since he returned in 2015 also he was at the hall of fame this year. (He was next to RVD)
TNA certainly is doing some great business in 2024
TNA IS A CATASTROPHE. HOW CAN YOU BE CONSIDERED A SERIOUS COMPANY WHEN YOU ARE ASKING TALENT TO TAKE A PAY CUT AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN PAYING YEARLY SALARIES.
First Dave rant , I didn’t shake my head at . Lol
Love Dave. Overheat more often!!! He's my kind of fan.
I know a website where I can watch free wrestling and I refuse to watch ROH
14:52 cam we wait for the show to happen to ask about what ifs?
AEW has Samoa Joe, The Young Bucks, Bryan Danielson, Nigel McGuiness, Adam Cole, Kyle O' Reilly, Roderick Strong, Mark Briscoe, Jay Lethal and Claudio and NONE of them are on The heritage RoH show 😂😂😂.. "The best guy is Tony Khan!"- Dave Meltzer
Wow I can’t believe Cary didn’t start out talking about flair non stop for an hour
Classic rant man Dave!!!
“Its about respect” right before he goes on to disrespect the entire ROH roster
8:39
*Awkward 😅
@@prast4097more like heartbreaking.. sad. Ridiculous.
I don't think TK realizes he has all those ROH legends on his roster.
amen to that dave !!!!!
If your goal is to fail, and you do fail, have you succeeded or failed?
Who’s that oldie at the bottom?
It’s probably time to consider not paying any attention to Tony Khan’s product in any way shape or form going forward
When is LeGreca cold?
It's not like TK just booked the Hammerstein a week ago
I apoligize for leaving Roddy and Shane Taylor off the list!
You can’t sprinkle the entire card full of ROH nostalgia when you’re trying to build a new brand and a new show with the talent. The future of that particular show. All the guys that you mentioned that are part of AEW and need to move on with their AEW future not be held back to the past in Ring of Honor.
Guys like Taven and Bennett need to stay away from the ROH shows, in order for them to prosper further as a talent and be bigger stars to begin with. This show isn’t a one night stand nostalgia show. Would it hurt to have a throwback match, no… the card doesn’t need to be littered with it.
Yeah we get it. WWE is great and does everything right and AEW is the worst thing to ever happen to the business. 🙄🙄 What an original perspective!
It is
wrestling fan figures out the problems with aew/roh
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Bryan Danielson just had surgery. How is he supposed to headline the show dave?
The AEW version of ROH is basically WWE’s version of ECW. It’s just the name only that’s the same.
Respect the passion Dave but y the fck wouldn't u wait to see the show then complain about originals being on the show most of the people u were pissed about not being on the show were lol taven,bennet,lethal,dutt,nigel,
You haven't been positive about ROH in a long time. The name is the only thing that hasn't changed. So why now complain that TK's not giving you a check to show up? If you actually care, go buy a ticket.
TK has burned another bridge. I can't believe Cary Silken didn't get invited, or isn't involved. I am now going to stop watching the AEW product. I hope AEW succeeds, but TK shit the bed on this.
WHEN ARE YALL GONNA REALIZE AEW STINKS,THEY ONLY PUT ON GOOD MATCHES,BUT NOT ONE STORY TO CARE ABOUT.
Ok. Don't recognize Billie vs Athena, or Sons of Texas vs The Righteous in a Double Bullrope match which is 3 years after the Briscoes and FTR faced one another. Also Adam Cole is facing MJF next weekend at World's End. I'm sorry but tell me you're not paying attention to the current product when you are not paying attention to the current product. Also Bryan vs Nigel would not have happened because of Bryan's neck.
You do realize that there's this thing called planning ahead right? They're saying that they should have planned this 2 months ago. And also, them dropping the Cole MJF storyline wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
TNA is not when there are rumors of the company asking wrestlers to take paycuts
Yea idk what hes talking about 😂😂 TNA is literally loseing wrestlers and about to lose two of its biggest stars
Repent for your sins
Thats the other show that does cheap knock off nostalgia shows
Stop interrupting dave youre being disrespectful to this man
This episode is a snooze 😴 fest 💤