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Using this channel to study for music history class
What I love about music is the history of it ,, one doesn’t realize the vast rich history it contains and how simplistic it was in the beginning. Well done missy!
I love your casual yet informative style. Studying for the CA teacher's exam in music...your videos have been so valuable. Thank you.
watched this right before my test! Lets hope this helped me out! Thanks for this video!
How did your test go?
First of all, I want to say thank you for posting this video. This is a very good intro to give a general intro, esp. to non-musicians and non-scholars. I hate to be “that guy” on the internet, but there are a few inaccurate things I feel the need to point out.
1- really nit-picky, but I don’t think it’s fair to say at 2:00 that the music “had no rhythmic structure” I think it would be more accurate to say “it had no standardised structure.” Anyway, admittedly picky.
2- much less picky, when you say at around 6 minutes in parallel 4ths/ 5ths are “very dissonant, odd harmonies to use in modern music- we don’t use harmonies like that in modern music unless you’re listening to some very abstract music.”
I mean, ANY song with a lot of “power chords” is going to be loaded with parallel 4ths and 5ths- here’s a super short list:
Black Sabbath - Iron Man.
Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water.
Survivor - Eye Of The Tiger.
The Kinks - You Really Got Me….
I could go on and on and on and on. And on. But do I need to? I mean, you’re telling me ALL OF THESE SONGS are “dissonant” in “modern music” and that ALL of those songs are “very abstract?”
3- a little bit nit-picky, but I think it’s significant- your example at the keyboard of “parallel fifths/fourths” are not in fact complete parallel 4ths/5ths as they would have used them in the MIddle Ages, (at least not unless all music history teachers I’ve ever studied with are wrong and every early music recording I’ve heard is wrong and every early music score I’ve ever studied is wrong.) They would have used complete perfect parallels, so they would have used a Bb against the F, for instance, as the tritone was a big no-no.
But again, I don’t want to be another nit-picky jerk on the internet. Believe it or not, I’m hoping my points will help you improve the quality of your videos, and also help potential music students from getting some incorrect ideas, so I hope I don’t come across as a jerk. My intention is truly to try to help. Thank you again for your videos.
composerdoh you Troll!!! Haha... no I’m kidding. I wish most relies on UA-cam where as level headed as this.
I don’t understand why people think to disagree, is to argue. It very childish.
Thank you for bringing normal adult conversation to the Internet.
@YoSabols LOL, probably, yes!
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I've also been making more and more videos for class as I've been teaching from home since this virus sadness, so I have even more appreciation for our "pianoTV" channel here for her excellent videos. It's SO MUCH WORK to write these things, film and edit them and post them. Anyway, thank you all again.
You are the reason why I'm passing Music 101. Thank you for all these awesome videos.
My knowledge of Western Music History basically began with Howard Goodall's BBC series, but I've been wanting to expand my knowledge ever since. So glad I found your channel! Thank you for this awesome work!
This lady did a better job in eight minutes than the Oxford History of Western Music did for $100 and bazillions of pages
Very nice! Congratulations.
Oooh this is really useful for my music history exam!
This is great lol :)
same here
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Wow! I am taking a music appreciation course right now in college and we are going over this exact curriculum! You are doing so much! I remember a while back I was self teaching myself the piano and that didn't last long. My interest is revitalized and I really want to get back to the piano! I will be checking out what else you are offering. Thank you so much for doing this.
The gregorian Chant was sung very largely outside the mass; it was used several time during the day and night namely in the antiphons that were sung before and after the psalm recitation or in the hymns.
Your awesome!
Great lesson!
In your demonstration of fifths and fourths on the keyboard... B and F = BIG NO-NO. That is a tri-tone. Change the B to a B-flat Also, I could be wrong, but I believe the fifth interval was considered to be consonant, not dissonant. Otherwise, thank you for spending time to teach others like me!
siebenboy
3rds and 6ths were considered consonant, I think. ☺️ But yeah, the Tri-Tone was totally forbidden. 😂
@@Hailey_Paige_1937 They weren't codified in theory as consonances until right before the renaissance but they were used quite often.
@@Hailey_Paige_1937 Kyle J. Whitehead is right, to my knowledge, and her demonstration of "parallel fifths" show great prejudice towards our 12-note well-tempered system, which, to say is an anachronism is something of an understatement. I'm no early music scholar, so I could be wrong, but literally almost EVERYTHING I've learned about early organum shows that Siebenboy is correct. They would have used complete perfect parallels throughout, not followed the notes of a modern well-tempered piano, as she did, but they would have altered the notes so they were always perfect fifths, never diminished nor augmented. One music teacher I had used to joke that harmony was invented by "pubescent monks" going through puberty, and they accidentally sang everything up or down a fifth or a fourth. I've actually heard some scholars imply this idea more seriously- saying that some think early organum may have started out by mistake, some people singing the wrong notes, but somebody liked it and started doing it on purpose. I've actually noticed this happening in a capella singing/chanting in large groups filled with amateurs, so I think there may be something to it.
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Wonderful video! One thing though, the Eastern Roman empire survived until 1453. Her fall signified the end of the Middle Ages. I'm mentioning this because that part of the world was so important at the time that you might consider doing a special on these Greek/Roman guys since you're alrrady working on the Middle Ages topic. You would be surprised by their contribution to western music, they introduced the different modes (that's why they have greek names) and the church organ to Western Europe. I'll be staying tuned :)
This was 3 years ago, but the Renaissance owes a lot to Greek-Roman philosophy!
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So True. I love her mini docs!
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Beautifully done. Very helpful, thank you for sharing.
I finally understand what the hell a mode/modal is-- thanks!
Very nice-- thanks for posting such an informative video.
WOW, your explanations makes it soo easy to follow and to understand, you've clearly done plenty of research , and I just learned a new word today : Melismatic (text)
You have no idea how much I wanted this and look forward to the next part!! Shoutout for Alfonso X's Cantigas de Santa Maria!!! Many covers around here. Also, any historian can tell you that while Catholic Christianity suffused European culture over these centuries, the dominance of the Church has been greatly exaggerated by non-historian propagandists. Secular and religious powers were on fairly equal footing.
Thank you for making this video! I'm really interested in music history, it allows us to better understand why different musical movements emerged.
The most important thing in music is that it evolves by transgressions: every time the style, the vision of music evolves, it's because composers want to create outside the frame, and experiment new sounds, new colors, new methods.
Thank you for creating this video. My students love your videos on music history.
Wow these videos are so so helpful. Studying for my CSETS & you make me understand this so much better than any book or any other video can! Thank you!
Very useful video and right to the essential. Thank you.
Wonderful tutorial! Thank you!
Your style is highly pleasant and the content is really on point! Kudos!
Nice, very good information and straight to the point, good job.
This video is a life-saver for my music assignment. Cheers!
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Incredibly interesting and well explained! So helpful, thank you so much!
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Thanks for the lesson!
Thank you so much for this video. Allysia, you are one of the most dedicated and inspiring UA-camrs I know. Your videos should be used all around music schools to teach about not only music history, but there's also so much knowledge one can acquire by watching you. Congratulations for your amazing job on making these videos.
You really do great work. Thanks.
i LOVED musicology courses at uni
About fouth and fifth. We have to remember about different temperment.
Good stuff!
this video upload at the right time!!! I have a test on middle age and renaissance music tomorrow. Thank you so much, this video has been helpful.
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The thumbnail is gorgeous !!
Thank you Allysia for such a great work of aggregating all of those musical information. I hope I am allowed to share this through my blog so people still can learn on this kind of knowledge. Thanks.
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Can you please do a two parter on Renaissance music!?
Thankee
Please refrain from using the term "Dark Ages." Technically speaking, the term has been used to describe the period between 476 and 800--Charlemagne's coronation--but in light of recent research that looks at the period's accomplishment without explicit comparison to the later Middle Ages and Renaissance, the term Middle Ages or medieval period suffices. Even the whole idea of a Renaissance is disputable considering the 15th-16th century renaissance was only the last in a series: the Carolingian Renaissance of the 9th century, the Ottonian Renaissance of the 10th, the Twelfth-Century Renaissance all preceded the capital-R Renaissance. Thanks!
Renaissance music coming next I hope?
6:59 no they are not!!
it s more apstract sound but not so disonante!
keep that in mind!
Nice. Thank you!
you fortnite fan
I'm so ready for Sumer Is Icumen In
The part where pope peogory 1 is supposed tp ne (540-604
Why do people say such negative things about the Middle Ages - the times of valiant knights and wise kings and mighty castles...
Am I romanticising it? That's when the Notre Dame was built, for crying out loud, how many buildings are more famous than the cathedral?
That's when music started, too- you wouldn't have Bach's Mass in B minor or Mozart's Requiem without the developments that took place a thousand years earlier.
Besides, the Mass does make use of Gregorian chant.
This peasant still licking the boots of kings and knights . lmao.
Thanks for all you do. Please make a Renaissance music video 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Can you do a video or analysis of Liszt's 12 Transcendental Études
Maria Maltseva well until she tells me that then ill keep asking lol.
Send her some money.
Nice video!
Howard Goodall did a series "The Story of Music" with the BBC that went through the different genres of music. Interesting how music notations started not as notes but just lines above the Latin text to show pitch rising or falling. Before the standard music notation with a 5-line staff we had "Neume".
When it comes to music of the Middle Ages & Renaissance, there is a lot of handwritten manuscripts hidden in libraries & archives. Even after the invention of the printing press, it was common for music students to copy music by hand like the famous Notebook for Anna M. Bach. You do occasionally find rare pieces online that people have taken the effort to transcribe into the notation with Treble & Bass Clefs we can read.
By the way you are awesome and have helped me so much... :)
You need to do the renaissance era
FINALLY!!
Have you already done a video on liszts b Minor sonata? Just an idea, but I just want to spread the popularity of that piece because I think it is under-rated.
I have almost no idea what you are talking about. That is so cool
Thanks A~
You mention sacred music, would you ever consider doing a video on intervals, the monochord, and sacred music in the Pythagorean sense?
okay I am in love man...
Early Music Sources made a great video on "Gregorian" chant, it is much recommended!
Hello, there! You're so funny, haha, new subscriber here! :D
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don't look at her eyes. just listen..
Can you a Bel Canto Pianism Technique? I was curious that one of the music characteristics of Chopin's music which I don't know what it is. I hope you read this comment.
Nice thumbnail! 👍
Hi, hope everything is ok,your videos are great thanks. Have you done a series dedicated to Renaissance?
Ah, the "Dark Ages were absolutely 100% terrible" meme, and only two minutes in!
The "Dark Ages" received that name from early modern scholars due to a resentment of the period of Church power due to the zeitgeist of the time. It was a far cry from as terrible as it's made out to be, and the periods before and after are a far cry from being so grand that the Middle Ages don't even compare.
They had one major thing going against them that the Antique and Late Antique world didn't: the Middle Ages were one of many various realms, which meant more rulers with more reason to wage war (though the Church did order wars to cease surprisingly often, and would threaten excommunication to those who didn't comply and make peace when ordered). The main downsides of the period were essentially the lack of one massive unified empire, so more war, and more war and leading to less trade, though that was a trend started back in the Empire, so nothing really changed there.
So the "darkness" of the period were balkanization of an empire and economic recession during the _early_ Middle Ages.
The reason we think so poorly of them is because scholars of a few centuries ago thought "ew, religion" and couldn't comprehend the concept of public bathhouses.
I'd suggest taking a course on the Late Antique period as well as some on the Medieval period. It's far more interesting a period than the nonsense peddled about everything being perpetual filth and disease and "muh oppressive Church".
Hmmm, thank ya!
I just love this! Great work :)
The role of Pape Gregory is largely a myth as what is called today Gregorian Chant or Plain Chant of which you gave a quick example actually originates from the 9th/10th century. At the time of Pape Gregory, the chant that was sung is still the Roman Chant inherited from the Greeks, which eventually slowly evolved into the gregorian Chant (about 300 years after the death of Pape Gregory). At the time of Pape Gregory there was no known notation of music; the first manuscripts with "neumes" are dated from the 9th century and this notation is still very basic. The modes with the naming we know today (Dorian, phrygian which by the way is not the same as the greek modes as described by Gevaert) were formalized by the start of Renaissance by Glarean. The plain chant is based on the 8 Church Modes , 4 authente and 4 plagal modes based on the scale of D, E, F and G only. The other diatonic scale of C, A and B were introduced later when the church modes started to fade away with the development of polyphonic music.
4ths and 5th are the opposite of dissonant
You have got to try Clair de Lune in C or G, I would love that!.
I'm not quite sure about the genre it fits in, but what about Lilium?
I cant really categorize it.
I can see many similarities, however.
Atleast in the vocals.
Like the streched, multiple note syllables which make it a bit awkward to listen to.
Maybe its a combination of middle ages and modern music.
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it was charlemagne's idea to standardise chants and he made a myth up about pope Gregory hearing these chants from God, so that communities in the whole of Europe would take up this new 'Gregorian Chant' - Charlemagne imported Roman chants around europe.
Hi I am a euphonium player in highschool and I have recently decided that I would like to learn how to play piano. I have been playing euphonium for 5 years (I'm currently a sophomore) and I was wondering at what level of music should I start out learning for piano. Obviously I already understand how to read music and understand the concepts that would probably be taught in beginner books, so I am not sure how difficult of music I should start playing. Should I play more intermediate music due to my background in music already or should I be like everyone else and play the easy music and work my way up?
Thanks
A 5th dissonant! Ha! Listen to the Prokofiev toccata.
Well we can consider that parallel 5ths are dissonant on a keyboard because they're using the equal temperament, so 5ths don't sound perfectly in tune.
Or maybe it's because we are absolutely not used to hear parallels 5ths (at least alone) and that we have even prohibited them since the Renaissance (I think).
Can you do a videos on Rachmaninoff
Great video! I was just wondering what your sources were on some of this stuff (primary and secondary). I'm working on a project which analyzes the shift in musical thought and attitudes in the 12th and 13th centuries with the translation of Greco-Arabic musical works (such as that of Ziryab and al-Farabi, both of which rely heavily on rhythm) into Latin around the same time, and I've been trying to find as many sources as possible
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I'm really interested in those medieval music episodes. Thanks for your efforts!
It's sad that you resorted to "dark ages" in the introduction. Historians have distanced themselves from this expression for a good century now. For sound reasons.
Trying to concentrate, but she keeps doing that Rudy Giuliani thing with her eyes...
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(Qui is pronounced "kwi" not "key.")
Thanks for this video, could you please do s video on Krebs, Praealbulum supra Jesu mein freude it would be an amazing help thank you
Thanks for the educational video. Nothing personal, but I hate the sound of gregorian chat. It sounds creepy to me. All those echoie voices in a monastery. Let's move on to Renaissance Music. That I like.
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..any one.. ._ . . _.
Let me be the 1.243.576.327.778 th person to tell you how cute you are :)
This channel needs rachmaninoff...