Marvel: Why Agatha Wanted Scarlet Witch's Powers

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
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    WandaVision just ended a legendary first season that saw Wanda Maximoff accept her terrifying destiny as the world-destroying Scarlet Witch. This was quite the pivot from Wanda’s status as one of the less important MCU heroes to the possible Thanos of the series. Time will tell if she will continue along this path to becoming one of Marvel’s greatest villains or if she will find redemption. Chances are, this will largely be influenced by the witch who served as WandaVision’s primary villain, Agatha Harkness. In order to understand if she will nudge Wanda back to the side of heroes or throw her deeper into darkness, we need to figure out what Agatha’s motivations were to take over Wanda’s powers.
    There seems to be three different options for this. For one, she could be as evil as she seems. It’s very possible that Agatha was planning to use her chaos magic to create her own fantasy world. While we didn’t get to know too much about Agatha, there are some educated guesses we can make. There’s also the possibility that she was secretly serving a greater evil being the whole time. All WandaVision fans know exactly which evil being I’m talking about. Then there’s the popular theory that Agatha wasn’t actually trying to hurt Wanda at all. This could’ve been a really aggressive lesson in the mystic arts.
    So let’s dive right into Agatha’s mind as we try to figure out why she wanted Wanda’s powers.
    0:00 Intro
    0:33 Agatha’s World
    2:48 Mephisto
    4:23 Agatha The Mentor
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  • @cbr
    @cbr  3 роки тому +94

    What do you think Agatha would do with Wanda's Chaos Magic?
    Find out more about Chaos Magic here: ua-cam.com/video/OMWRGo5-A0I/v-deo.html

    • @spongebobsquarepants1588
      @spongebobsquarepants1588 3 роки тому +7

      I think she would have tried to kill mafisto

    • @Aj-jm7ji
      @Aj-jm7ji 3 роки тому +3

      Why is no one asking where Señor Scratchy is? He’s the real phase 4-6 big bad 😉

    • @wakanda4123
      @wakanda4123 3 роки тому

      Probably like you said she wanted a better life.

    • @enternal1220
      @enternal1220 3 роки тому

      Bro... stop making theories
      No is getting them right

    • @Feashis
      @Feashis 3 роки тому +1

      I think that she would first, kill Wanda. Next, do want Wanda did, but bed the world. Third, Make her own reality. Then, bring her family back, secretly ruling over them. And finally, expand her turf.

  • @BklynBabe
    @BklynBabe 3 роки тому +494

    Her motivation is in the huge billboard right behind her.... She wants to cleanse the earth.

    • @j.p.7359
      @j.p.7359 3 роки тому +21

      Agatha is the embodiment of Envy people who just want what is NOT their right

    • @marcusbaron4377
      @marcusbaron4377 3 роки тому +19

      She doesn't though :')
      In the comics she literally looks after mr. Fantastic's and Invisagirl's son because he has magic powers that he can't control.

    • @marcusbaron4377
      @marcusbaron4377 3 роки тому +16

      @@shrishtikaushik7910 no she's a teacher to magic users who are not capable of understanding them properly that's why she looks after their child as it comes to a point where she had to put it in a coma because the child didnt know what to do and counldnt control his powers

    • @Da-yd1yl
      @Da-yd1yl 3 роки тому +4

      @@marcusbaron4377 these kids don’t know what they talking about

    • @JPgi15
      @JPgi15 3 роки тому +1

      Lol 😂

  • @alexandriacollins7119
    @alexandriacollins7119 3 роки тому +343

    According to the actress, Agatha resented that that an 'amature' had so-much power, so-easily, where-as she-herself, had spent centuries studying to get the powers she had amassed (and stolen). Also, pay attention to what Agatha says, first, about how Wanda's too dangerous... AND how she wasting her powers merely making breakfast for her family, etc. Basically, Agatha wants power. Possibly she wants power-enough to surpass the Sorcerer-Supreme...

    • @BenefitCounterbench
      @BenefitCounterbench 3 роки тому +14

      Evil or not, she's got a point. Wanda's become gifted by an Infinity Stone, but she faked a housewife lifestyle, hiding from the real world and its problems when shit hit the fan... Not using great power for the greater good is such a waste.

    • @xc2781
      @xc2781 3 роки тому +11

      @@BenefitCounterbench its not like she wanted to hide like that. she lost everyone really close to her and she involuntarily created the hex.

    • @kznnyx
      @kznnyx 2 роки тому +10

      @@BenefitCounterbench Wanda’s power didn’t come from an Infinity Stone. The Infinity Stone enhanced her powers. Her powers originally came from Chthon which was sealed in Mount Wundagore and He used Wanda as a vessel for his power which is Chaos Magic. Anyway, other than that, I completely agree with your statement. Wanda should use her power for greater good.

    • @uniqueplayz7979
      @uniqueplayz7979 2 роки тому +1

      @@kznnyx no, Wanda naturally has powers being a witch. Not from Cthon, that was in the comics

    • @kznnyx
      @kznnyx 2 роки тому +3

      @@uniqueplayz7979 She became a witch since birth because Chthon chose her. Of course, it’s in the comics. What else will my statement be based on

  • @shimanopetermann9068
    @shimanopetermann9068 3 роки тому +81

    It's pretty easy to me. There's really no hidden motive. Even before Agatha realised that the source of Wanda's hex was chaos magic, she asked Wanda to teach her how she casts "magic on autopilot" and only after she realised that this was not something Wanda could teach her because it came from chaos magic she decided to try to make that power her own. In her past her coven put her on trial for studying magic that was above her age and station. All that put together it would just seem that she's obsessed with learning everything there is to know about magic and becoming the most powerful witch.

    • @trikegang6671
      @trikegang6671 2 роки тому +2

      This theory makes the most sense out of all the others in the comment section.

    • @travonrichardson3019
      @travonrichardson3019 2 місяці тому

      @@trikegang6671right

  • @-cloudy-6976
    @-cloudy-6976 3 роки тому +470

    She most likely is just power hungry

    • @azophi
      @azophi 3 роки тому +30

      Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely

    • @sunnymelo9271
      @sunnymelo9271 3 роки тому

      Yep

    • @azophi
      @azophi 3 роки тому

      @@sunnymelo9271 kinda sad. that sucks

    • @sunnymelo9271
      @sunnymelo9271 3 роки тому +3

      @@azophi Lol yea she did all that to just lose it 🤣

    • @ren-prime6179
      @ren-prime6179 3 роки тому

      And here CBR comes and clickbaits us

  • @moua64
    @moua64 3 роки тому +242

    People forget that at the start of episode 8 in Salem, Agatha literally begs her coven to teach her how to use her powers and that she can be good. Instead they refused and tried to kill her. In some ways, deep deep down, Agatha is doing for Wanda what her coven failed to do for her - teach a witch how to use magic that bends to their power.

    • @icewaterwitlemon
      @icewaterwitlemon 3 роки тому +40

      i think she was manipulating those people to let her go. she literally chuckles after

    • @k-savage2360
      @k-savage2360 3 роки тому +11

      How if she tryna take Wanda powers for herself and use it to kill Wanda and fuck shit up

    • @urickmann7768
      @urickmann7768 3 роки тому +13

      she praticed dark magic against their tradition she was not innocent

    • @billyt8868
      @billyt8868 3 роки тому +27

      she also was begging for her life only to kill them and laugh. she was verrrrrrrrrrry clearly manipulating them and it’s exactly what she did to wanda. i don’t know why people are bending over backward to pretend agatha was somehow good in this series. her entire character was that she entered wandas hex to learn and take her power. then she mentally tortured her, choked out her children, lied to her, taunted her about being pathetic and broken…….. but y’all are like “SHE JUST WANTED TO HELP WANDA CONTROL HER POWERS” 🤡🤡🤡

    • @StrikerCup79
      @StrikerCup79 3 роки тому +4

      @@billyt8868 in comics she is Good and even help the F4 to teach franklin his power

  • @pistoleroohnecape6471
    @pistoleroohnecape6471 3 роки тому +186

    CBR: Why Agatha wanted Scarlet Witch's power.
    Every One Else: because she almost defeated Thanos?!.

  • @archangel3433
    @archangel3433 3 роки тому +97

    She probably just want to take wanda’s powers to prevent wanda from awakening something darker.

  • @qcrew2938
    @qcrew2938 3 роки тому +85

    She really was a great villain... hopefully she pops up later on

    • @NotContinuum
      @NotContinuum 3 роки тому +9

      Well, if we need her, we know right where to find her.

    • @goudendynamiethd2117
      @goudendynamiethd2117 3 роки тому +7

      It is very possible since they did not kill her off

    • @kaushikmk3250
      @kaushikmk3250 3 роки тому +3

      She should get a mini-series of her own

    • @goudendynamiethd2117
      @goudendynamiethd2117 3 роки тому

      @@kaushikmk3250 Thanos should get one too then.

    • @apdronite6202
      @apdronite6202 3 роки тому +1

      @@kaushikmk3250 ikr. I love her... Her and Hela are just awesome villains.

  • @plotagonroy7997
    @plotagonroy7997 3 роки тому +68

    I like the Agatha villian in WandaVision, and were it left off was the Scarlett Witch looking through the book and hearing her kids. I wonder if this is the part that leads Dr. Strange into the multiverse of Madness and Wanda and him some how join forces, and maybe either Mephisto will be the villian of the movie, or Nightmare. Then again they could come out with a solo movie of Wanda later, but I still think it's all going into the Dr. Strange movie.

    • @Jayxroberts
      @Jayxroberts 3 роки тому +2

      I doubt it’ll be either of them. It’s most likely going to be chthon

    • @ssscarletwitch591
      @ssscarletwitch591 Рік тому

      @@Jayxroberts nope. It was Wanda herself

  • @lucasus127
    @lucasus127 3 роки тому +60

    “And I killed sparky too”

  • @buciallstar
    @buciallstar 3 роки тому +15

    the most twisted part is: Agatha was turned into Agnes in the end to never leave Westview and live a normal life not knowing she is a witch. But all the inhabitants know she is a witch. That means she will be stared at and probably avoided. So she might turn crazy from isolation and paranoia.

    • @sinnyus
      @sinnyus 14 днів тому

      I know this is OLD, but when Wanda unleashed the hex, people aka police from the outside world completely forgot Westview existed and said they were from Eastview (a city that doesn’t exist). So it wouldn’t be too out of the box to believe Wanda putting her in the Agnes form also made the people of Westview forget about Agatha and what she did and basically giving her a new life/identity. Plus the trailer for Agatha All Along paints her as a detective of sorts so it also could be likely this is all just Wanda’s magic giving her fake people to interact with or not.

  • @michaelj1729
    @michaelj1729 3 роки тому +15

    I think why Agatha said "You dont know what youve unleashed" when Wanda transformed into The Scarlet Witch was because that type of power that Wanda will possess is gonna attract a being that will use her as weapon to either destroy the world or recreate it. So this is gonna be Mephisto or Nightmare.

    • @yakone1379
      @yakone1379 3 роки тому +3

      More like Chton. He is the creator of Chaos Magic itself, he granted Wanda with her powers as a baby. If anyone is possessing her, it's probably him

    • @hokagedlo6133
      @hokagedlo6133 3 роки тому

      @@yakone1379 wanda got her powers from the infinity stones in the mcu lol

    • @wildshadow1971
      @wildshadow1971 3 роки тому +4

      @@hokagedlo6133 I might be wrong, but i was under the impression she already had the powers. The infinity stone only enhanced it.

    • @hokagedlo6133
      @hokagedlo6133 3 роки тому

      @@wildshadow1971 your right i forgot her mother was a witch to i think she was even called the scalet witch to she was the original

    • @weneedcookies4756
      @weneedcookies4756 2 роки тому +1

      @@hokagedlo6133 no she didn't she was born with latent chaos magic and mind stone just unlocked her true powers

  • @swgraphics9059
    @swgraphics9059 3 роки тому +19

    Look at what Agatha told Wanda before Wanda trapped her in Westview.
    She may return as "good mentor Agatha" in season 2.
    I see Wanda or Dr. Strange removing that hex...

    • @ZachWasabi
      @ZachWasabi 3 роки тому

      the hex is already removed dumbass

    • @anthonybousquet3590
      @anthonybousquet3590 3 роки тому +5

      @@ZachWasabi They meant the charm on Agatha that made her act like 'Agnes', dumbass.

  • @nidaldik
    @nidaldik 3 роки тому +12

    "That would make Parks and Rec MCU canon" haha, chef's kiss. The moment I subscribed to CBR.

  • @sheehanroy4001
    @sheehanroy4001 3 роки тому +172

    Why did Agatha want Wanda's powers? To be more powerful duh! She herself told scarlet witch has more knowledge than ancient one so who wouldn't want such tremondus knowledge and power??
    Edit: lol I just told the whole video in the form of a comment hence I didn't get a heart from CBR even though I have the most number of likes

    • @Empire_11
      @Empire_11 3 роки тому +9

      obviously

    • @theocooper6359
      @theocooper6359 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah ik this video is such a piss take

    • @killuabest2125
      @killuabest2125 3 роки тому +5

      So true

    • @andreshermosa1633
      @andreshermosa1633 3 роки тому +9

      actually she didn't wanted to be more powerful..she already knew she was not worth her level because she was way powerful than her...she actually wanted to tame her power and have agatha use it because she can control it better knowing wanda didn't know how to...she said "give your powers to someone who can really control it"....she was helping wanda in a way

    • @cacapoopoo489
      @cacapoopoo489 3 роки тому +1

      Nope she said and I quote “give ur power to someone who would know what to do with it” meaning she wasn’t power hungry I mean she is power hungry but she had a reason like maybe she wants to resurrect her mother or something else

  • @marcusbaron4377
    @marcusbaron4377 3 роки тому +10

    What annoys me with these synopsis's about Agatha, everyone is saying how vileness she is. From my point of view, she still isn't a villain in mcu. Once she was revealed, she made Wanda see the damage shes done to everyone else (wouldn't see that as manipulation) as the comics depict Agatha teaching Wanda, she's doing the same here. She knew how careless Wanda was with her powers and wanted to strip away those powers, if she wanted the world to be cleansed, she would of allowed Wanda to carry on instead, she wanted the powers in the hands of someone who is capable of not causing destruction.
    What I don't get is why Wanda locked her into the character... I know this will lead to phase 4 with a lot of heros getting shows. Absolutely would love to see Agatha again. Can't get her song out of my head, been singing "ITS BEEN AGATHA ALL ALONG" through the house.

    • @billyt8868
      @billyt8868 3 роки тому +4

      it’s weird that you can’t see agathas intentions were very clearly to manipulate wanda in a harmful way. everyone is trying SO HARD to not make agatha into a villain but i mean… she killed her coven (including her own mother) while manically laughing because she wanted power. she manipulated wanda over and over to make her doubt that’s she could control her own powers. she literally told her she was broken after, you know, taking her through a journey of emotional torment and choking out her children. agatha wanted power. her entire role in the series was to invade the hex world and screw with wanda until she went mad. to think agatha isn’t a villain is honestly the dumbest thing i’ve heard in a while.

    • @marcusbaron4377
      @marcusbaron4377 3 роки тому

      @@billyt8868 She's literally a hero in the comics... If you go through some stories, she literally helps raise a kid with the fantastic 4 because its unable to control its powers.. Thanks for the snap comment keyboard warrior. d'fuck?

    • @terry9238
      @terry9238 3 роки тому +3

      She killed her coven in self defense.

    • @niweshlekhak9646
      @niweshlekhak9646 2 роки тому +1

      @@marcusbaron4377 Maybe Marvel are trying to make her anti-hero in MCU like Loki.

  • @happytot1039
    @happytot1039 3 роки тому +6

    It was said that early concept of Agatha's intentions of tryna take Wanda's power was that she wanted to bring her mother that she killed 300+ years ago. As it was said in the show, Wanda's power can bring people back to life, might be possible without the need of a bubble or the hex if the sorcerer/sorceress has enough knowledge to pull it off.

  • @STAAForever21
    @STAAForever21 3 роки тому +59

    When Wanda put Agatha under the spell in the final episode when they change camera positions she disappeared.

    • @hUsEyIn-tg1zc
      @hUsEyIn-tg1zc 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, interestingly, I noticed that too and watched the same scene over and over again. But If Agatha ran away Wanda would see her.

    • @obviouslyme1293
      @obviouslyme1293 3 роки тому +2

      Nah, she just minding her own business 😂.

  • @Billie_Maximoff
    @Billie_Maximoff 3 роки тому +4

    Shes one of the few villains that still alive in the mcu, im really excited to see her again

  • @danielshew7072
    @danielshew7072 3 роки тому +6

    Just wanted to say CBR I love your channel whenever I want to know something about super hero’s I just look at your vids

  • @cdayo8393
    @cdayo8393 3 роки тому +11

    I was imagining agatha and hela teaming up, then he said that and I just went 🥲

  • @rickimartinez1084
    @rickimartinez1084 3 роки тому +17

    Imagine agatha was doing the right thing and wanda (like she said) actually becomes the villain

    • @tsuumee4545
      @tsuumee4545 Рік тому

      this is funny after MoM. Agatha was doing the right thing.

    • @Pathfinder-jk7gh
      @Pathfinder-jk7gh Місяць тому

      ⁠​⁠@@tsuumee4545Honestly, I personally don’t agree with this idea. In my eyes, Agatha was serving the Darkhold/Chthon just like Wanda had been before she broke free of it. She knew about everything that was going on in the Hex, including the pain that the Hex was inflicting, choosing to let it continue and even interfering with attempts by Monica and Vision to talk with Wanda about it all and end the Hex.
      I just think that Agatha was meant to be the keeper until it detected Wanda’s magic, where she then basically became an unwitting delivery girl. This belief is mostly founded on how at least one of Chthon’s goals from the comics seemed to be to take Wanda as his vessel on Earth. As he was mentioned by Wong and a depiction of him can be seen above the Scarlet Witch statue in MoM.

  • @nayefomarebrahimsharif6247
    @nayefomarebrahimsharif6247 3 роки тому +25

    It’s been Agatha all along...

    • @Relugus
      @Relugus 3 роки тому +1

      It Was Chthon All Along.

    • @azjmsxhn
      @azjmsxhn 3 роки тому

      @@Relugus ffs..stop it already..it's not happening

    • @amongusgod4289
      @amongusgod4289 3 роки тому

      @@azjmsxhn SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!

    • @ZachWasabi
      @ZachWasabi 3 роки тому

      what the fuck is the point of this comment, wtf? goddamn you really want likes huh

  • @albelvalentine8983
    @albelvalentine8983 3 роки тому +8

    She literally said in the show that she takes magic from the undeserving and that Wanda was so powerful but she’s using her power foolishly and making “breakfast for dinner”.

  • @CatalinaLinal7710
    @CatalinaLinal7710 3 роки тому +4

    Having Agatha as the shows actual villain did her one hell of a disservice. Antagonist? Yes. But NOT the villain.
    Agatha didn't start the hex, she was curious about it and investigated its origin. She didn't imprison Wanda in her fantasy reality she actively tried to WAKE HER UP which is the only reason why the 3000 innocent civilians got freed from their literal *mind torture* in the end. If Agatha hadn't interfered this entire situation would have remained as it is for who knows how long!
    "It's was Agatha all along" isn't showing us the character who needed to be defeated to save the day, she is just the person who messed up Wanda's fantasy. Which in the end of the day is a POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT but the show just twists the narrative and calls her the villain for it (and punishes her in SUCH an unjustified way concidering that they never showed us that her motivations and intentions were outright villainous and would lead to a disastrous outcome).
    For as much as I like the show, it has one serious problem with its "hero- and villain-coding". And in a story about such a morally complex situation like Wanda's here, that's an actual show killer.
    (don't even get me started on Hayward, his villain-coding was ridiculous)

  • @fang1.052
    @fang1.052 3 роки тому +34

    Good theory

  • @davertronlebosta9430
    @davertronlebosta9430 3 роки тому +3

    Agatha seems to always walk the line between having power for herself and destroying big threats to the world. She's probably just working to stop a great threat and sees she can gain more power at the same time. While also needing to study Wanda as she was curious and her and the nature of her power

  • @imrul_kayes_bd
    @imrul_kayes_bd 3 роки тому +10

    Agatha is the new fan favourite villain

  • @kyhblizzy
    @kyhblizzy 3 роки тому +51

    the big bad is Chthon. marvel is leaning way to much into chaos magic, the darkhold, and "the scarlet witch" title. all have very strong connections to chthon, and that fact like Wanda is on wundagore mountain reading from the darkhold I think she unwittingly unleashes chthons trapped essence and he possesses Wanda for dr.s 2

    • @rosesongoku6980
      @rosesongoku6980 3 роки тому +2

      I'm thinking Chthon will be the overarching Big Bad for the next few phases perhaps, serving a similar role that Thanos served during the Infinity Saga. Maybe this is the beginning of the "Chaos Saga" or the "Multiverse Saga". I think he's too important to waste on a single movie, so he'll hopefully stick around.

    • @kyhblizzy
      @kyhblizzy 3 роки тому +1

      @@rosesongoku6980 yes I agree with you, I think nightmare will be the man villain of dr. strange 2 as reported, I figure we won't actually find out chthon is pulling the strings until the end of dr. strange. I think Wanda's possession will result in them releasing his physical form into the multiverse towards the end setting up for his return later.

    • @maxp112
      @maxp112 3 роки тому

      Nope

    • @maxp112
      @maxp112 3 роки тому

      This is the Mcu not the comics we never got galactus or nova Infinty saga is over.

    • @prestoncourtney346
      @prestoncourtney346 3 роки тому +1

      @@maxp112 they have literally stated over and over galactus is coming, hes a fantastic 4 villian mostly and they are coming as well

  • @ashtreesystem5265
    @ashtreesystem5265 3 роки тому +1

    My idea for Agatha's origin is basically the same as Wonder Woman, as a baby witch, her mother, who was the Elder of their coven, told her bedtime stories of the Scarlet Witch to comfort her after being traumatized by witnessing witch executions during the Witch Trials. And so Agatha became obsessed with learning as much powerful Magick as possible in the hopes of making herself into the Scarlet Witch ("... The Scarlet Witch is not born She is forged")

  • @rufusgoldstein2655
    @rufusgoldstein2655 3 роки тому +5

    I so would watch a Helga-Agatha team-up

  • @tr3yyhawn535
    @tr3yyhawn535 3 роки тому

    I love this channel. They upload like 5 videos in one day

  • @kb523
    @kb523 3 роки тому +8

    It doesn’t really makes sense calling Agatha the villain, other than killing Sparky (which we might find out there was a reason for) she didn’t actually do anything

    • @kurtsnyder4752
      @kurtsnyder4752 3 роки тому

      K B except look fabulous.

    • @The_Memorial
      @The_Memorial 3 роки тому +3

      Kidnapped the twins and tried to steal wanda's magic and tried to kill her. And a few sldiers who were obviously mislead but either way she tried to kill them

    • @kb523
      @kb523 3 роки тому +1

      @@The_Memorial she threatened the twins but that’s pretty much all it was. Just a empty threats,whereas Wanda was actually the one who enslaved a whole town. We never found out why she needed the magic tho, again with the soldiers, she never actually hurt them. She was just full of empty threats bc she was trying to achieve something else. I assume we’ll find out what for in the future

    • @daynematthew
      @daynematthew 3 роки тому +1

      she was written so well she even manipulated the viewers 😂

    • @cartooncentral263
      @cartooncentral263 3 роки тому

      Plus she toyed with us X-men fans

  • @semrappange2013
    @semrappange2013 3 роки тому +1

    I think Agatha thought Wanda would destroy the world with her chaos magic (like was written in the darkhold), and she wanted to safe it in her own twisted way. Like she said “the scarlet witch is not born, she is forged” and by trying to prevent the prophecy she actually fulfilled it, because of what she did the scarlet witch has been forged and shall “destroy the world” (or more like reshape it, cuz I doubt they would make Wanda a villain).
    So basically “it’s been Agatha all along” but more literally.

  • @realar
    @realar 3 роки тому

    I can't bring myself to like this video because look at the like total now. It's pretty dang perfect.

  • @miguelangelalvarezagudo1719
    @miguelangelalvarezagudo1719 3 роки тому

    Great video

  • @oheneapiagyei6176
    @oheneapiagyei6176 3 роки тому +3

    I just remembered we all forgot about the rabbit senior scratchy I swear it's still alive

    • @marbuttc
      @marbuttc 3 роки тому

      There is a deleted scene somewhere of Senor Scratchy vs. Monica, Billy, Tommy, Darcy and Ralph. That must be one heck of a rabbit.

  • @Lunaris3-in-1
    @Lunaris3-in-1 3 роки тому

    1:08 I've been saying that for so long. Also Morgan Le Fay from Runaways and Lorelei from Agents of Shield. A team up of all four of them would be so interesting. Throw in Loki for kicks too.

  • @robertoldcorn5331
    @robertoldcorn5331 3 роки тому +2

    I think Agatha wanted to become the scarlet witch herself. And was jealous of how she was unable to obtain chaos magic on her own without draining the scarlet witch. And that’s why she was so jealous and desperate to drain Wanda and called her undeserving of her title and magic

  • @marsmartin
    @marsmartin 3 роки тому +4

    Agatha wanted the chaos powers because she thought Wanda wasn't worthy of them, wasting it all on "making breakfast for dinner". She spelled that out fairly clearly.

  • @Jamie_Winsh
    @Jamie_Winsh 3 роки тому +1

    The main question I was asking when she revealed was what are her intentions and apart from knowing how Wanda created the hex her reasons for wanting her powers are never confirmed. Hope she returns!

  • @jirayafan1175
    @jirayafan1175 3 роки тому

    CBR I love your videos alot thank you the amazing video. "'there is a theory that their is a thired wich

    • @cbr
      @cbr  3 роки тому

      thanks man! no we love you!

  • @badwolfxd3593
    @badwolfxd3593 3 роки тому

    Hmm I remember not to long ago you guys had a video about how's its all nightmare!!...a little late for the miphisto train now haha

  • @Surfing1709
    @Surfing1709 3 роки тому +1

    What Agatha wants is power. Magic is Power - so she wants to gain more power so that there is nothing left she will be able to do. All powerful to be unstoppable.

  • @clark82
    @clark82 3 роки тому +1

    I suspect Agatha is a mixture of a number of things.... I do not think she is outright evil, but wants the power for herself so she could control chaos magic. She has devoted her whole life to witchcraft, and seems to have gone under the radar enough that the Sorcerer Supreme (pre-Strange) did not consider her enough of a threat to worry about, yet Wanda just shows up and able to do so much more than her, yet without even knowing the full extent of her powers.... so I think she was caught between having this power for herself, and knowing it better (I think there is a strong chance she will show up again down the road at some point.... after all, Odin was able to break Loki's mind control spell at the start of Thor Ragnarok.... so these spells are breakable)

  • @shawnswag5145
    @shawnswag5145 3 роки тому

    We need that album!!

  • @Rosseroni88
    @Rosseroni88 3 роки тому +1

    I keep going back to the part where she says “Good girl!” After being beaten

  • @holidaybros
    @holidaybros 3 роки тому

    im so happy agatha survived cant wait for her mcu future!

  • @shar.k
    @shar.k 3 роки тому +5

    I have a ques so dark hold is re introduced that means agents of shield is non cannon now or this is just continuity error ?

    • @francargeric1
      @francargeric1 3 роки тому +1

      None of the shows prior to Wandavision were canon, not even Punisher and Daredevil. They were their own separate thing

    • @shar.k
      @shar.k 3 роки тому

      @@francargeric1 agents of SHIELD has appearance of Nick Fury

    • @The_Memorial
      @The_Memorial 3 роки тому

      @@shar.k yes and maria hill and mentioned the scepter and ultron and sokovia. Still that could mean they are from another universe where their earth is almost identical

  • @Alx-vm7hp
    @Alx-vm7hp 3 роки тому +1

    Did any one else notice that Agathas mother had like a blue crown when trying to kill Agatha

  • @edwardschtick6935
    @edwardschtick6935 3 роки тому +4

    Day 6 part 2 of asking CBR: what if thanos never adopted gamora?

  • @pizza_mozzarella
    @pizza_mozzarella 3 роки тому

    I really want Agatha back and another amazing song that I can jam too

  • @milliem8728
    @milliem8728 3 роки тому +2

    The Mephisto train is still chuggin'

  • @Trtevoorryu
    @Trtevoorryu 3 роки тому +2

    I personally feel with Agatha. Yes she was selfish and wanted more power but in fairness it was because she probably knows how to control it. Meanwhile, Wanda goes off into the sunset with no repercussions for her actions

  • @tennohack6704
    @tennohack6704 3 роки тому

    You know, I was just wondering this! Its so unusual for an evil witch to want ultimate power, couldn't possibly imagine why lol

  • @andreshermosa1633
    @andreshermosa1633 3 роки тому +2

    Agatha wanted her powers because it was safe with her...she knew she was very dangerous capable of chaos creation!..so she was helping wanda in a way because if wanda takes full control of her powers..the universe will be destroyed..and that's what agatha was trying to tell her...in a way

  • @bensyow
    @bensyow 3 роки тому

    oooo that's so cool if wanda ang agatha team up and battle maphisto

  • @trexadvent4726
    @trexadvent4726 3 роки тому +1

    What do you think Agatha Harkness would have done if she had the power of Scarlet Witch? Would she do the same thing with Loki and Doctor Strange?

  • @swagboym486
    @swagboym486 3 роки тому

    I swear CBR is in love with Wandavision

  • @Mr.Magic4ever
    @Mr.Magic4ever 3 роки тому +1

    Such a PHENOMENAL SHOW!!!! Elizabeth Olsen deserves a best actress Emey and Golden Globe. Kathryn Hahn deserves both in the best supporting actress category. We definitely need to see more of Kathryn Hahn's Agatha in the MCU.

  • @kuyababs5100
    @kuyababs5100 3 роки тому +1

    So, Agatha vs Wanda
    Dr strange vs Mephisto..
    Sounds good

  • @Just_Joe
    @Just_Joe 2 роки тому

    There was actually a nice detail in the episode 8 where the Darkhold was "cloaked" in a red-coloured enchantment (a.k.a chaos magic, a.k.a chthon's magic) so that would be the most obvious reason why she needed Wanda's power. Since she managed to absorb some of it in the episode 9, she was able to open the seal of the book. Then, it is obvious what she would have done with the knowledge as a more experienced witch, although she would have never reached the same peak as Wanda can.

    • @Pathfinder-jk7gh
      @Pathfinder-jk7gh Місяць тому

      Well, it seems that she was already able to read it given that she showed the same signs of corruption that Wanda and 838 Strange had (the blackened fingers).

  • @trexadvent4726
    @trexadvent4726 3 роки тому +13

    Where did Agatha Harkness come from and how did she learnt about Wanda Maximoff the Scarlet Witch? Is she similar to the Ancient one?

    • @dylanj739
      @dylanj739 3 роки тому +10

      Agatha is a witch who lived during the Salem Witch Trials. She studied dark magic from the Darkhold, an ancient spell book of the damned. Agatha learned dark magic from it, including to learn to absorb magic from the undeserving which gave her longevity, basically pseudo-immortality. Agatha also learned about the Scarlet Witch from the Darkhold and also learned the Scarlet Witch’s Chaos Magic will exceed that of the Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Strange, as well bring Destruction to the world, by creating the Multiverse. Agatha isn’t similar to the Ancient One, she’s just a magic leeching witch who wants to obtain Wanda’s magic because Agatha believes she is deserving because of her powerful knowledge in magic.

    • @misspriss2482
      @misspriss2482 3 роки тому +3

      @@dylanj739 Yeah. Agatha also said that she came to Westview because she could sense how much magic was coming from that place.

    • @dylanj739
      @dylanj739 3 роки тому

      @@misspriss2482 Yeah, I forgot about that part.

    • @brianmayabella5992
      @brianmayabella5992 3 роки тому

      @@dylanj739 well ecplained dude

    • @danishsamir8807
      @danishsamir8807 3 роки тому

      @@dylanj739 please tell me why the darkhold is written in Sanskrit??

  • @TreyWarren-wp8rs
    @TreyWarren-wp8rs 3 місяці тому

    I like Agatha as a an anti hero character instead of just a mentor like she is in the comics. It adds more character development to the character I think

  • @darthsidious47
    @darthsidious47 3 роки тому

    I just realized who Agnes's husband Ralph is, it's Ralph Bohner. Monica says that Agatha was living in his house. Maybe when Wanda created the hex and gave everyone a role, she gave Ralph the role of Ralph and Agnes gave herself the role of his wife.

  • @chrisll3874
    @chrisll3874 3 роки тому +7

    She was condemed by her own mother for seeking forbidden power. When she tried to plead innocence by claiming she hadn't sought it out. Here mother called her out and tried to kill her. "Enough deception!" And then Harkness killed them all and her mother. Pretty clear, her desire for more power is her motivation.

    • @The_Memorial
      @The_Memorial 3 роки тому

      Did we find out if she was actually her mother? Cause in the covens the leader is called mother/father according to their sex

    • @chrisll3874
      @chrisll3874 3 роки тому

      @@The_Memorial I assumed it was literal. Is that a Marvel cannon or real world canon. I am not aware of coven's nomenclature in the MCU. If there isn't a Marvel cannon then it's ambiguous as to whether that is her real mother or not. At one point, when she realized she wasn't going to get a pass for claimimg innocence in her persuit of forbidden her appeal seemed more of a child pleading with her actual mother for mercy. But that's only my impression and Harkness seemed to overcome the stigma either way and gleefully put her down for good and stole her broach. Seems like the writers would show it was clearly an honorific if what you say is true. What's your evidence Marvel witches use this term in that context? Any references in Marvel literature you can point to? If not I am sticking with my opinion.

    • @chrisll3874
      @chrisll3874 3 роки тому +1

      @@The_Memorial It's confirmed Evanora Harkness was named in the credits. Seems pretty clear to me. I highly doubt the writers are trying to be unclear here. Evanora tried to kill her daughter for breaking the forbidden rules and Agatha killed her mother with a smile. Pretty clear this portrays Agatha's unbridled ambition for power. She is not benevolent like in the comics.

  • @lordvenjix3757
    @lordvenjix3757 3 роки тому +12

    Simply answer would be MCU Agatha Harkness is corrupted by Dark Magic and obsessed with power

    • @kyhblizzy
      @kyhblizzy 3 роки тому +2

      the MCU always takes the easiest route, the most simplistic stories are usually the best ones. nobody gets confused with a convoluted storyline. their movies are meant to appeal to all audiences not just the comic book fans but the ppl that have no clue what happens in the comics.

    • @LuisMC26
      @LuisMC26 3 роки тому

      THIS. My theory is that at the end wanda cleanse Agatha of the dark magic. Agatha is going to undo the spell, but stays in Westville until Wanda needs her. Then she is going to teach Wanda everything she knows.

  • @Vinaykumar-ug4gm
    @Vinaykumar-ug4gm 2 роки тому

    the agatha is a powerful witch and she is just amazing i mean i love her though she's bad but still she justified the role too good and too great lovely and really great thanks for the video and a lot of love from planet ayurveda

  • @alberteinstein3612
    @alberteinstein3612 3 роки тому

    I think that she wished to eliminate a major threat like Nightmare or Mephisto, and here’s why:
    When Wanda defeated her in Episode 9, Agatha said, and I quote, “you have no idea what you’ve unleashed, you’re gonna need me.” Agatha was clearly using her magic to imprison or keep at bay such an enemy as described above. When Wanda took all of Agatha’s powers, she let the threat free by destroying the cage. But by taking Wanda’s powers, Agatha might have been able to kill this big threat, which will most likely be the main villain of Doctor Strange in a Multiverse of Madness.

  • @jeshuamiranda8846
    @jeshuamiranda8846 3 роки тому

    Not to also mention Agatha did say to Wanda "you have no idea who you released" and that she will need her help

  • @matlecture7
    @matlecture7 3 роки тому +1

    When I saw Agatha trying to destroy Wanda (Your World is broken, just like you). I knew that last theory is not true.

  • @swgraphics9059
    @swgraphics9059 3 роки тому +3

    She needed them to kill Dr. Strange, and get his knowledge

  • @chanceblevins6682
    @chanceblevins6682 3 роки тому

    Makes sense that the kids are trapped in maphistos realm. But what if they decide to make it where the kids are trapped on an alternate universe that continued without the hex?

  • @ziaexplosivo7216
    @ziaexplosivo7216 3 роки тому

    4:04 - That’s Master Pandemonium, not Mephisto. Although, still relevant since Master Pandemonium’s arms are made of the twins as they were reincarnated versions of his arms that Mephisto took from him.
    .... okay everything I said sounds crazy but that’s the story lol

  • @topofthepopofficial7475
    @topofthepopofficial7475 3 роки тому

    Top of my list

  • @FrozenSadness7
    @FrozenSadness7 3 роки тому +1

    The vision Tony had in Ultron is what would have happened if he didn’t help in endgame

  • @FrozenOneYT
    @FrozenOneYT 3 роки тому +2

    I think Agnes (A. K. A Aghata Harkness) would want her powers to Change Reality and Bring Myphisto back 🤔

  • @aidahoxha22
    @aidahoxha22 3 роки тому

    Your the best!!!

    • @cbr
      @cbr  3 роки тому

      no you are the best!

  • @catalfaroasmr6928
    @catalfaroasmr6928 3 роки тому +1

    I think Mephisto is going to be the villain Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness so I'm thinking satin V cell is going to have to do some things to Wanda Twins

  • @urjune1015
    @urjune1015 3 роки тому

    I think Agatha Harkness is more like a neutral character like in the comics where she's not entirely an ally and a villain. I think Agatha wants Wanda's powers because she knows Wanda is not ready and she needs her power to stop a much more powerful villain. That's why in the last episode, Agatha said that Wanda needs her.

  • @jdg462
    @jdg462 3 роки тому

    i think it would be either galactus or kang the conqueror who is pulling the strings because maybe agatha was told by galactus or kang to go to the hex because they probably got on there radar on CMBR so agatha tries to stop her by taking her powers

  • @eimanb3887
    @eimanb3887 3 роки тому

    I think someone from the crew of the MCU team said that Mephisto won't make a debut in Phase 4, though I'm not sure.

  • @aidenfiddler8059
    @aidenfiddler8059 3 роки тому

    I feel like Agatha tried to take her powers from her forcefully bc she knew she couldn’t control them but she couldn’t beat her, so Wanda will ask for help, I like the mephiso one

  • @charlesmaverickcellona5396
    @charlesmaverickcellona5396 3 роки тому +1

    Didn't agatha say that the scarlet witch is not born but forge. Agatha might be forging her to be the scarlet witch

  • @Dervis128
    @Dervis128 3 роки тому

    I like to think that Agatha wanted the Scarlet Witch's power because she knows that after several lifetimes of studying and practicing magic, she alone has the capability to control it, and doesn't think that the power can be trusted in the hands of an emotionally unstable rookie magic user like Wanda. When Agatha said "You have this power, but you lack the knowledge to use it," that Wanda would admit that she was right, and force her to be her mentor. Still hoping for Agatha to appear in Dr. Strange 3!

    • @azjmsxhn
      @azjmsxhn 3 роки тому

      she will definitely appear in DS2

  • @whammycheng3758
    @whammycheng3758 3 роки тому

    While it is obvious that Agatha wants more power, after detecting Wanda’s magic, I am more surprised she didn’t throw herself into Endgame to steal at least one of the Infinity Stones. I mean, during the war against Thanos, it was feasible to steal maybe the Nano-gauntlet, lot of confusion that time; most people would want Absolute power to command the universe. Agatha is like Really Old, and she didn’t try to get the Space Stone when Red Skull or Loki were openly using it.

    • @azjmsxhn
      @azjmsxhn 3 роки тому +1

      maybe stones are not really her thang

  • @numinous123
    @numinous123 3 роки тому +1

    They keep talking about Mephisto.... But the Darkhold is C'thon's book, and he's just as bad as Mephisto, if not worse.

  • @abcdelmo
    @abcdelmo 3 роки тому

    I really think, a little of everything of those reasons. Haha she like to mentor the scarlet witch so she can control the world. Eventually master the chaos magic and use wanda to defeat mephisto.

  • @2_simple
    @2_simple 3 роки тому

    The thing she uses to turn into a bird looks like the power stone

  • @nejlakaltak1956
    @nejlakaltak1956 3 роки тому

    When you said Dourmamu i screamed:DOURMOMU SO FAT!!!!!!!!!!

  • @mr.black-hole57yearsago48
    @mr.black-hole57yearsago48 3 роки тому

    Nice vid and somehow im always first??? mabey im subscribed and notifications are on ???

  • @chrishorning7853
    @chrishorning7853 3 роки тому +1

    Harkness isn't under Wanda's spell. She reacted the same way with Vision. I'd put good money on the bet that she is faking her mind control and will gather back her strength to make a return soon. I didn't see Wanda create any new runes to dampen Harkness' abilities and the old ones went with The Hex.

    • @Serena_9
      @Serena_9 3 роки тому +2

      Wanda did take all Agatha power.

    • @youngdoogiethedj3745
      @youngdoogiethedj3745 3 роки тому

      Wanda hadn't excepted the fact that she is the scarlet witch at first she didn't even understand how she was doing it but foreal just excepting your perceived destiny is so powerful sent her over the top and she was already beaten down by the time wanda did that to her

  • @magnamic5614
    @magnamic5614 3 роки тому

    Who forged Wanda/the Scarlet Witch? Was it by the hand of someone or was she forged naturally like the forging of the Infinity Stones?
    I’ve read the comics so I know that back story. I’m just wandaing (yes I meant to write that) if the MCU is going the route of Wanda is and eternal being or just a vessel?

  • @ellenbarriga451
    @ellenbarriga451 3 роки тому

    But she basically said as much, she wanted it all; and that she takes power from the undeserving (in her mind). So, who knows which other witches that she has stolen power from?! And it probably still is, since it was almost comic accurate. But maybe just didn't fit in the show; and could still be in Doctor Strange 2.
    True, and can actually see this about Agatha. The only problem with that is Harkness's reaction(s) once Wanda's ability (being a Pandora's box), then realizing not only that she messed up in unleashing this ability; she was unable to put it back ("you don't know what you've done)?!

  • @staywildmoonchild1950
    @staywildmoonchild1950 3 роки тому

    I like the second theory the best!!!

  • @reecekelly38
    @reecekelly38 3 роки тому

    Guys what rank would we all give Agatha power wise..... you know the most common up there with captain marvel doctor strange where would everyone rank her we definitely know she’s one of the most powerful ps favourite character just pre ordered her pop vinyl! More Agatha please💜

  • @el-sig2249
    @el-sig2249 3 роки тому +1

    Mephisto is coming, so Agatha wants to use Wanda's power to stop him. Now that she failed she'll have to settle for helping Wanda do the same. Wanda will have to turn to her when Mephisto begins to break into their reality.
    Now, how's that for a fan theory?! 😊

  • @PauliChromatic
    @PauliChromatic 2 роки тому

    I guess chaos magic is the only power to bring back her mother. I hope she builds a good relationship to Wanda. Like Stark to Parker.

  • @Plingan1234
    @Plingan1234 3 роки тому

    this is soo smart