@@carlloren5499 when compared to LEGENDS. YES. Was he a beast? YES. Name 5 dudes he beat? “A inexperienced BHOP, and James Toney.” Everyone else was journeymen and Roy treated them as such. He ducked that BHOP smoke when it mattered most. Same thing Errol was about to do if he don’t fight Bud.
@@joshuajarod1909 weak ass resume filled with smoke and mirrors. And robberies. Porter has the better resume by a landslide. He shoulda praised porter for that alone.
Not at all, after all he is now that just well accomplished retired two timesl world champion. Whose resume speaks for itself. He's no longer a active fighter, so he's no need anymore for syking himself up with delusional granduers once used as a tactic for defying odds and self doubt. He's no longer in the business of selling tickets anymore, he's now an ex professional championship fighter sharing his honest perspective on the world of boxing. "Too humble" suggests that Porter may have falsely neglected himself and or his careers caliber in order to express the level of respect he has for the genuine phenoms like a Andre Ward. Should earn Porter as a man even more respect in the world of boxing 🥊
Love Porter and his approach to life, his skills on the camera and how he handled his last match when his father threw in the towel. You can tell God has a special calling for men like him. 🙏🏾🔥🔥
Very good fighter but Ward was the super-middle Floyd Mayweather. He’d beat him similarly to how he beat Kessler. Maybe he would have a bit harder of a time but he’d still win
What makes Andre Ward different is you can teach his style to kids in any boxing gym in the world. Maybe his resume wasn't legendary but his skills in the ring were almost unmatched.
Guys could learn a lot from Shawn and how he comports himself as a person. How many boxers could be offered a 'we are all-time' from a name like Ward, and turn it down?
They have a documentary out on Ward. One of the most underrated in Boxing History. Always great but not really recognized. Real recognize real. Porter gave him his due!
Ward a Phenom? When the Boxing Hall of Fame inducted the 2020 & 2021 classes together he was the 6th best fighter inducted in those classes behind Floyd, Mosley, Marquez, Hopkins & Klitschko. Now those men were Phenoms
Andre Ward don't get enough spotlight on how great he really was. If he was flashy disrespectful and got into trouble outside the ring he'd be a super star. Unfortunately that's what people look for but Dre was definitely one of the greats
How's do you expect a guy that fought no one to get a spotlight? His best moment I'm his career was when he robbed Kovalev. What other highlights are there in his career to speak of? He had one of the most boring careers ever for an undefeated fighter.
Andre Ward is the most overrated undefeated fighter of all time. Boring as hell and his resume was weak as hell. Probably was a better amateur than pro
That was a dope compliment. Cuz you really shouldn't throw that word around lightly. RJJ in his prime.... that's a phenom. I think I'll add Bud to that list now that he's shown just how good he is on the grand stage.
Ward’s career overrated?? Honest question did you really watch Ward back in 2008-2017? Bika Green kessler froch abraham chad dawson edwin rodriguez sullivan barrera kovalev mirranda very solid resume!! These guys were animals in the division back in the day!
@@MarvellFightbunch of nobodies. Andre Ward fought nobodies. He hasn't fought a single fighter that should elevate him to P4P or All time great status. A career full of forgettable and extremely unwatchable fights. He was trash.
@@silverk496 my trainer was a two time gold medalist and nobody even mentions him, gold medals are severely overrated. I think Ward was good and could’ve done more, but I don’t put him in the category of Floyd
@@mightymansterling you don’t even understand boxing, bro I’m referring to an undefeated pro fighter who DONINATED amateurs. Meaning everyone saw him coming and still couldn’t stop him; PHENOM. I doubt your trainer was undefeated stop talking
Shawn never played it safe though.. and you can definitely say Floyd and Ward have. Not to say they are not better boxers than Shawn, but Porter ALWAYS went out on his shield. And thats saying something. If you ask me who I want in the trenches fighting beside me between these 3 guys.. I got Showtime ALL day long
He was! Bro was some else int the amateurs but unfortunately he got shot. Idk why but as a pro boxer u gotta focus on fighting and not the bullshit. Ever since he got shot he was never tha same. Sad really.dude coulda been there with Spence and Crawford right now. Yes crawford beat ‘em but it was off 1 leg. Dude is a couldve been, off of 1 incident. Pretty sad.
😂😂😂 Andre Ward is a clown. He beat nobodies. He is the definition of a paper champ that the media built up. Even someone like Devin Haney has a more impressive resume than Ward and I hate Devin Haney.
How can someone that isnt even in the conversation for best Super Middleweight or Light Heavyweight in History be considered a Phenom. Thats just ass kissing
I mean, I disagree with you. Joe hadn't really beaten any real elite fighters in or around their primes. I also doubt his ability to even draw with Ward let alone beat him. I'd predict Ward by Unanimous decision. Good match up though prime for prime.
@@southsidedon9037 Loma only has 3 losses and his management was atrocious early on. He fought Salido for a belt in his second bout and put up a tough fight. If Ward fought Calzaghe in his second fight, Ward would have lost that. Then Loma goes on a tear stopping guys at 135 until he ran into Teo. Loma is absolutely a phenom. No one in recent time has been brought up as fast as Loma and seen the success he has. He beat Haney and got robbed all while still being able to make 130
Thats real. A phenom aint a word that gets thrown around loosely. Dre, Roy, Floyd…..them are phenoms fr
Well you got roy right
Ali
@@carlloren5499 Roy probably has the sorriest resume of any boxer to be considered as great as he is.
@@Ishbikes he overrated?
@@carlloren5499 when compared to LEGENDS. YES. Was he a beast? YES. Name 5 dudes he beat? “A inexperienced BHOP, and James Toney.” Everyone else was journeymen and Roy treated them as such. He ducked that BHOP smoke when it mattered most. Same thing Errol was about to do if he don’t fight Bud.
Shawn Porter: “You’re a phenom”
Andre Ward: “Yeah…”
embarrassing
Egotistical
@_aarondiazzzz He is though. Is he supposed to lie
@@joshuajarod1909 weak ass resume filled with smoke and mirrors. And robberies. Porter has the better resume by a landslide. He shoulda praised porter for that alone.
Y’all dudes are thoroughbred hatin ass losers😂😂
That was very selfless of Shawn to say. Very aware of who he is and others. Much respect.
It was total Bullshyt! I just realized that he’s jealous of Bud!! Foh
Porter never ducked no body. Fought the best in his division in their primes! Legend
Porter rarely gets the credit for that 💯
Something Ward never did lol that’s why he retired early
Shawn too humble
Shawn is humble and smart
Not at all, after all he is now that just well accomplished retired two timesl world champion. Whose resume speaks for itself. He's no longer a active fighter, so he's no need anymore for syking himself up with delusional granduers once used as a tactic for defying odds and self doubt.
He's no longer in the business of selling tickets anymore, he's now an ex professional championship fighter sharing his honest perspective on the world of boxing.
"Too humble" suggests that Porter may have falsely neglected himself and or his careers caliber in order to express the level of respect he has for the genuine phenoms like a Andre Ward.
Should earn Porter as a man even more respect in the world of boxing 🥊
Shawn is too jealous of Bud that’s what he is..
Bro was a hell of a fighter. Boxing fans know Shawn had it! I feel he fought too long! Can’t take it away from him tho he doesn’t duck anyone!
Ward was my favorite to study/watch. One of the greatest boxers from amateur to pro ever.
The European Slayer 😂 Andrade ward
Kovalev whooped that ass the first fight
Who is andrade ward????😂😂
@@King_Arthur_no but Kessler, Froch and Kovalev were.
Kovalev won the first fight
Bro went yea 11 times in 40 seconds
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m dying 😂😂😂😂
Shawn is a true throwback to have a resume like his and never went to his head
Love Porter and his approach to life, his skills on the camera and how he handled his last match when his father threw in the towel. You can tell God has a special calling for men like him. 🙏🏾🔥🔥
you don’t need to believe in an imaginary friend to be a classy, empathetic person or to reach great success.
Shawn on his shit. Real talk...
Calzaghe was a phenom.
I scrolled all the way down this list looking for THIS name in particular. You know your stuff!
Very good fighter but Ward was the super-middle Floyd Mayweather. He’d beat him similarly to how he beat Kessler. Maybe he would have a bit harder of a time but he’d still win
Shawn a real humble dude god bless him . He doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
You don't give him the credit he deserves many others do
Shawn Porter so humble. Beautiful fighter.
Porter: don’t say we ... you
💯💯
Ward: "yeah.."
Wtf
What makes Andre Ward different is you can teach his style to kids in any boxing gym in the world. Maybe his resume wasn't legendary but his skills in the ring were almost unmatched.
Come on Shawn ……………… Let’s call a spade a spade…
Love Shawn interview style always keep it real
Porter hella honest.. big respect
Guys could learn a lot from Shawn and how he comports himself as a person. How many boxers could be offered a 'we are all-time' from a name like Ward, and turn it down?
Pacroid isn’t a phenom “😂 lol
You can't do anything but respect Shawn Porter. He is always on point! True professional in the game. I'm happy he has found a new lane in the game.
Imma throw Joe Calzaghe in there too.
I admire how humble Porter is.
They have a documentary out on Ward. One of the most underrated in Boxing History. Always great but not really recognized. Real recognize real. Porter gave him his due!
He was great but he lost to Sergei
I love Shawn! He gives respect when respect is due. His appreciation for the sport is evident! He’s earned his spot, as an analyst and as a fighter! 💯
This is facts! Respect to SP for keeping 💯!
Add Crawford in the list
Shawn porter gota lovem man big heart
Andre said "we" to be nice. Shawn said naw you. Andre said yeah you right, just me. Lol facts tho
Sean Porter - just a brilliant brilliant human being 😊
Y’all be praising ward like he don’t got a weak ass resume filled with smoke and mirrors and robberies
James Toney, Sweet pea
Isn’t ward the same dude who got dropped by the guy That Canelo sent into Yesterday? (Sergey kovalev)
RJJ is a phenom to and for some reason I feel like he was talking about Tim Bradley when he’s saying he was not a phenom
Porter a legend
Porter is a phenom he didn't 🦆 nobody true warrior 💯💪🏿💪🏿
Roy Jones. Joe calzaghe. A couple more
Gracious wisdom.
Those 2 were P4P #1 & #2 till they retired
for me Pac is also a phenom, when it comes to Resume
Briefly met Andre Ward once, he was a really good dude.
No lies detected
Mayweather of Course but WARD haha jokes.
Ward a Phenom? When the Boxing Hall of Fame inducted the 2020 & 2021 classes together he was the 6th best fighter inducted in those classes behind Floyd, Mosley, Marquez, Hopkins & Klitschko. Now those men were Phenoms
Idk about Andre ward but Roy & Floyd yea most def
Roy Jones was a phenom and only lost because he was chasing a loss tbh. Roy didn’t belong at light heavy or above.
Shawn porter is one of my faves man. How can you root against this guy
Andre Ward don't get enough spotlight on how great he really was. If he was flashy disrespectful and got into trouble outside the ring he'd be a super star. Unfortunately that's what people look for but Dre was definitely one of the greats
How's do you expect a guy that fought no one to get a spotlight? His best moment I'm his career was when he robbed Kovalev. What other highlights are there in his career to speak of? He had one of the most boring careers ever for an undefeated fighter.
Andre Ward is the most overrated undefeated fighter of all time. Boring as hell and his resume was weak as hell. Probably was a better amateur than pro
Someone has to tell these Ward fans the truth
He talking about the ‘Motown Phenom’ 😂
100% Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather dos verdaderos fenomenos del boxeo
Manny was a phenom.
Thanks!
Naw bro you fought everybody you definitely a great.
Gotta respect Shawn for his honesty, resume and gutter fighting style. You can't beat Shawn unless you're elite.
Finally someone with common sense when it comes to boxing Phenoms Roy jones, Mike Tyson, etc etc aren’t phenoms
No lies here
That was a dope compliment. Cuz you really shouldn't throw that word around lightly. RJJ in his prime.... that's a phenom. I think I'll add Bud to that list now that he's shown just how good he is on the grand stage.
He left Roy Jones Jr. out.
Speaking on his era
Notice he said his Era, let's not start no mess😂
“Yeah”… Shoutout MoneyLynch!!
Don't forget Joe calzaghe
Ward beat Kessler and Froch - due respect
Put me in the minority who thinks Wards career was severely overrated. Porter is a legend who fought them all, real throwback fighter.
He’s good but we didn’t see enough of him
Ward’s career overrated?? Honest question did you really watch Ward back in 2008-2017? Bika Green kessler froch abraham chad dawson edwin rodriguez sullivan barrera kovalev mirranda very solid resume!! These guys were animals in the division back in the day!
@@MarvellFightbunch of nobodies. Andre Ward fought nobodies. He hasn't fought a single fighter that should elevate him to P4P or All time great status. A career full of forgettable and extremely unwatchable fights. He was trash.
@@MarvellFightand he lost to Kovalev. Robbed him the first time, then punched him in the dick repeatedly the second time. Dirty fighter.
@@a.c.8524yeah you sound CRAZY. Name 3 fighters from Ward era with a better skill set
Facts 🐐
Ward is different . Period
Andre award a phenom!? Idk about that one I can’t name anything that stood out. He was a good fighter though. But a phenom!?!
Gold medal.
@@silverk496 my trainer was a two time gold medalist and nobody even mentions him, gold medals are severely overrated. I think Ward was good and could’ve done more, but I don’t put him in the category of Floyd
@@mightymansterling you don’t even understand boxing, bro I’m referring to an undefeated pro fighter who DONINATED amateurs. Meaning everyone saw him coming and still couldn’t stop him; PHENOM. I doubt your trainer was undefeated stop talking
3. And Roy Jone Jr
Shawn never played it safe though.. and you can definitely say Floyd and Ward have. Not to say they are not better boxers than Shawn, but Porter ALWAYS went out on his shield. And thats saying something. If you ask me who I want in the trenches fighting beside me between these 3 guys.. I got Showtime ALL day long
Ward got a big ego for such a overhyped career
Porter is talking about Jose Benvidez, Shawn has mentioned him on the podcast being a phenom in the amateurs.
He was! Bro was some else int the amateurs but unfortunately he got shot. Idk why but as a pro boxer u gotta focus on fighting and not the bullshit. Ever since he got shot he was never tha same. Sad really.dude coulda been there with Spence and Crawford right now. Yes crawford beat ‘em but it was off 1 leg. Dude is a couldve been, off of 1 incident. Pretty sad.
Tyson also. Iron Mike
Errol spence a phenom
Lol
Pac-Man is up there with those 2
Andre definitely a goat 🐐. Would of loved to see ward vs Tyson fury
😂😂😂 Andre Ward is a clown. He beat nobodies. He is the definition of a paper champ that the media built up. Even someone like Devin Haney has a more impressive resume than Ward and I hate Devin Haney.
So is bud crawford
Facts 💯
Y’all goto say Crawford name now 😮
Facts❤
Facts
I agree
Where’s the full interview
Pattern exclusive
He never beat a good fighter.
The undertaker is the only phenom
Yep, the way he bought the judges against Kovalev was phenomenal.....
Ward would have gotten toast by Canelo, Facts! Then no more phenom.
Andre Wards best moment was the robbery win against Kovalev.
I agree😹😹😹😹
Put Joe calzage in the conversation
No. And I like Joe Calzage.
I just commented the same thing but now that I think of it I think he means amateur and pros
Gervontaa is ah PHONEME🦍 Once people get over the HATE for Floyd Mayweather!! 130lbs, 135, 140lbs CHAMPION (Secondary) or NOT! #boxing 🥊
How can someone that isnt even in the conversation for best Super Middleweight or Light Heavyweight in History be considered a Phenom. Thats just ass kissing
Terrence Bud Crawford
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SOG Resume is unimpressive unbiased just facts
Israelite phenoms! ✊🏾 🕎
Shalam YASHAR, Barak Atha!
I’m sorry but Andre ain’t a phenom he’s a great fighter but nothing more 😂
Think we got to add a name to the list of phenoms. #3 Bud Crawford.
I'd put him below #2 Andre Ward and of course #1 Floyd.
I think Joe Calzaghe might have beat Ward.. definitely Pacquiao and Triple G really beat Canelo the first fight I consider him a phenom
No sirrr wtff joe calzaghe overrated wtfff
I mean, I disagree with you. Joe hadn't really beaten any real elite fighters in or around their primes. I also doubt his ability to even draw with Ward let alone beat him. I'd predict Ward by Unanimous decision. Good match up though prime for prime.
I'd add Loma to that list. His body of work is pretty phenomenal.
He lost too many times! He is elite tho.
@@southsidedon9037 Loma only has 3 losses and his management was atrocious early on. He fought Salido for a belt in his second bout and put up a tough fight. If Ward fought Calzaghe in his second fight, Ward would have lost that. Then Loma goes on a tear stopping guys at 135 until he ran into Teo. Loma is absolutely a phenom. No one in recent time has been brought up as fast as Loma and seen the success he has. He beat Haney and got robbed all while still being able to make 130
@@jeffladrillono2313 Only 3? In under 20 fights? Lol
Wards career is nowhere near Mayweather or Jones, he retired too early, hardly a 'phenom.'
Y'all missed ward.....
Roy Jones Jr?
and dre returned the favour in the 2nd favour