I support the 48 years for this cold blooded killer. However, someone explain to me how we live in a country where a gangster who shot someone gets 48 years ( rightly ) yet Aaron Campbell , who abducted, raped and murdered a 6 yearold from her bedroom in the most horrific way possible got only 27 years reduced to 25. Because he was 16? There is something horribly wrong with the justice system in all parts of the UK.
The UK justice systems seems to protect nonces. I wonder why looking at the royal family and their good friends rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville. They'll be out in way less than that as well, young enough to start again, have a family, live a fairly full life best case, or longer to get out and do it again
Because the judges have to follow the sentencing guidelines set out by Parliament. It simply doesn't matter what the judge may want to give they have to follow those guidelines otherwise the sentence gets appealed and the sentence reduced to that set out in those guidelines. You often hear judges call for reports on the guilty party after the verdict and those reports list things that are not heard in the trial and the information they get also has to be taken into account. If you want things to change then lobby your MP and maybe even start a campaign to change those sentencing guidelines but commenting on social media won't change anything apart from maybe making you feel a little better.
Unfortunately this isn't unique to the UK. Actually some countries like the Nordics treat their criminals very well (even rapists and murderers) and in Norway's case, only serve 21 years maximum.
No it's fn not fantastic at all 48 X £45k = £2million for this Rat. Hand him over to medical research until death cost nothing and in the end might actually save a few lives
even if released in 40 plus years he will be in a box and I heard from a very good source read between the lines what I have said it can happen at anytime
Take him down is always the best part "to spend time with the most ruthless AAA category prisoners in the country" hell have no fury for men that kill innocent people.
@@quartzshine2828 The perp is a young muppet who had a gun, I guarantee the dad would not be in any danger what so ever. You can tell he is not a person you ought to mess with.
Sentencing guidelines should be updated so that gangland killings automatically incur a whole life sentence. We need to get these vermin off our city streets for good.
@@ozbolli Chapman is 23. The sentence is 48 years minimum. At 23, you look back on your life and it seems very long, because your memory is still good. Looking ahead to 48 years, more than twice the time he has been alive, will seem like an eternity! It will seem even longer after a few reamings.
People that do this should never get out. The sentence should be ‘until death’. HOWEVER, 48 years is much better than the absolute crap our pathetic judges usually hand out.
pretty much until death, if he gets out it'll be in his late 70s that's if he lives till then. He wasted a life at least his is wasted albeit not ended
As the judge kept pointing out they are constrained by the guidelines that Parliament sets. If they set any other sentence it just gets appealed and the guidelines used as evidence and the sentence reduced. Until you understand those guidelines your comment about pathetic judges just stinks of ignorance.
Yes but this keeps happening. Why are Anglo-Saxons in that area so violent though? Notice how the woke media never wants to discuss that? Also, I noticed how they are trying to keep Chapmans Anglo-Saxon face off the front papers and off the internet, and we all know why.
FINALLY!!! a proper sentence… 48 years, won’t be out until he’s 71 years old! This is what the public have been crying out for. This needs to be the standard sentence for murder.
Why aren't all murder and serious crimes given proper sentences like this. Well done to this judge and rip to those who lost their lives were injured and to their families the deepest sympathies for this atrocity
He won't in the UK. His sentence will be automatically cut in half even if he has no time off for good behaviour he will be out in 24 years and that is just not long enough.
@mirelle6010 he can appeal it, I mean if you manage good behaviour for 20-30 years and show reform etc, I mean time erodes anger and the people assessing him wouldn't have been part of the sentencing, completely doable to get out of prison. I've known scumbags who've blinded a woman in an acid attack, history of being a heroin addicted series criminal, had guns, ronned people, etc, went down for 11 months for blinding a woman in a revenge attack for kicking him out of a pub for starting a fight. Was out in 5, given a female parole officer and he was asking around the gym if anyone could get him caustic acid that we used down the toilets. British justice isn't fit for purpose it's a disgrace
Hes not guna see outside life again. He will just reek havoc in the system for aslong as possible at £50,000+ a year tax payers cost. Being cat A or with that sentence AAA cat. 48 years is just bizarre never heard anything like it ❤
@@garycroft4960 Apparently during the trial he was trying to hide himself from view and didn't want people looking at him. And whenever they say X "showed no emotion" in court, well, that's just a temporary thing. Once out of sight most of them will absolutely break down.
@usmellofpoo thanks so much. It's appreciated, but it's not about me it's about that poor family, shame life has to be lost before anything is done with people like this with past convictions 👍🏻
Don't think "saving money" is the winning argument for bringing back the death penalty. For me, in a case like this, a representative of the family should be given a "choice" from the judge of whether they would be satisfied by a life sentence or death by lethal injection with minimum 10 years imprisonment. That way you honour the "sovereignty" of the family's world view that's had their loved one taken under horrific circumstances.
@@thrilla72 That's your opinion. I'm arguing that a better system would be the family (or family representative) should have a choice based on their world view. For all we know they might be religious or just simply would prefer the life sentence punishment aspect. Either way the family should have the choice. Not you. Not me. Not the court.
@@burnaardnufc3173 Death penalty regret is a possibility. That's why I'd introduce the 10 year minimum sentence rule.... before they receive lethal injection. Just in case there's a change of mind or new evidence comes to light......
Outstanding sentencing. As he tries to act all tough and hard around the other inmates, it'll be sinking in that 74 is a shit age to come out of prison. I bet that's going to wipe the smile off his face.
Every judge in the UK should model themselves on this excellent judge and follow his example. All the evidence and proof was there to justify this sentence.
He's not making his own mind up y'know, or pulling numbers out of a hat. He's following the law and the numbers set down by parliament as all judges do....
The sentencing of Thomas Cashman and the unexpectedly epic minimum term he got seems to have set a precedent and sent a message. Commit this type of crime on Merseyside and you are setting yourself up for 40+ years, guaranteed. This same judge also sentenced the Ashley Dale killers. They also got north of 40 years each, the oldest was already 41 years old so will probably die inside. I think it's worked. Liverpool appears to have calmed down of late and these huge sentences are probably making it much harder to find foot soldiers willing to take on the risk. Those at the top also know how badly Merseyside Police tore through Cashman et. al. and don't want to bring attention to themselves either.
I would rather die than spend the rest of my life in prison. The death penalty isn't punishing the person. It should be the get strung up in the street, tortured to near death then the rest of life in prison penalty.
That's brilliant. 48 years for some chancer who thought he was a big man. There are so many of these loons about who don't understand the reality of their actions. This ought to make them stand up and notice. Seriously ecstatic about this. Enjoy the rest of your life Chapman when you go down. Totally buzzing with this judgment. Bring on the next one.
There is a video on YT of some scouse toerags speeding along a Welsh motorway being chased by the police. The comments claim that Chapman was driving and they could be right - it looks like him from behind.
No what about miscarriage of justice, there are people in prison who did not commit the crime and sentenced to life what about them? Him getting 48 is good enough
@erkkadzai8226 but when u die u a sleep that it no suffing peace long sleep he lock up and he will have to watch is back for 48 years beating up occasionally he suffering
I'm 37. If he'd been jailed on the day I was born - and factoring his time on remand - he'd still have another decade to run. It's terrifying. And when you think about how much everything has changed since 1987 and how my own life has played out with all the freedom in the world...
It doesn't matter because even tho he will be in jail until he is over 70 at least.He can stew in a cell .😂 If i had my way he would be swinging ➰ but i think enjoying dropping soap on a rope in the shower is a close second.🚿🚿🚿🤗
Because he carried out all the offences on the same day. If they didn’t then if someone nicked a car and smashed into another whilst drunk you could end up in prison for the rest of your life… once you add 3 years for stealing car, 3 for burglary to get the keys, 2 for criminal damage, 1 for driving without insurance, 1 for driving without licence, blah blah etc etc = 20 years
he got a minimum of 48 years. That's 48 Christmases, 48 Easters, 48 long hot summers, 48 birthdays, 48 years not been able to go the pub or have a girlfriend. He'll spend 48 years in a concrete cell always looking over his shoulder. When he's 70 he can apply for parole IF he's still alive and even then that can be turned down. This is a good sentence because his life is effectively over.
it's actually a better sentence than life.He might be hopeful knowing that he'll be out one day,. Even if he wins his parole claim he will have nobody. No job, probably no family or friends, but only his criminal past. All he will have is his end. I really hope that he doesn't die in prison but shortly after he'll eventually gets released. So that his death be meaningless just as his life was
Probably because she wasn't the intended victim and there was only one death. Had there been multiple deaths, it would have been whole life. Had one of his intended victims been killed, that would have satisfied the premeditation and planning criteria - again, whole life.
There was another man who was sentenced to setting fire on a house killing a mother and her children he got 40 years. Never really seen sentences with that amount of years here in the UK, hope it continues for crimes if this magnitude
Used to knock about with lads exactly like this. Big Points to prove on who has the biggest balls, until they get locked away. Sad thing is, none of this brings back the life’s of those who are gone and still doesn’t take the nightmares away of having to live on without your loved ones around you. Anyone thinking about this gang life, swerve it. Get a job, work hard, get some discipline and focus your energy on the right things. Money comes and goes, especially the quick money, your memories and time doesn’t. Love to everyone ❤️
Hardly. Last year there were 4 fatal shootings in Merseyside. In Chicago there were 2832 shootings recorded and 695 homicides. Of the 4 people shot dead in Merseyside 3 were the wrong person. Our criminals need to give up using firearms and go back to beating each other.
I’m telling you now, if we actually brought back the death penalty for any offender, rape, stabbing murder and theft or whatever it maybe that is literally wrong, I think they would think twice about doing this. There is far more chance of being caught in this time we live in
This judge must at times dispair at how wicked humanity can be.Well done for the dignity he gave to those who suffered, including the inconsolable families😢
look it's perfectly understandable knee-jerk reaction to think that, but know that death penalty has NEVER been a deterrent to crime. NEVAH! look it up if you do not believe me.
We need more sentences like this. I know of a local case, he only got 6 months for rape with the freaking witness and victim on trial. There's a LOT of wrong in England. Well, the rise of crime, grooming gangs and stabbings says it all.
"Grooming gangs"? You mean the ones that make up way less than one percent of all child s3xual abuse cases? So the 99%+ of abuse that not "grooming gangs" isn't a problem in England worth mentioning? Why's that?
A beautiful young life destroyed for nothing by this scum. No acknowledgement of guilt. No remorse. No repentance. A coward. May he rot in hell. He's lucky there's no death penalty.
A better punishment is remove his arms from the shoulders - job done and ensures no more offending. and the money the tax payers pay housing him in prison for 48 years should be awarded to the family. Now that's appropriate justice and will send a strong message to the other scum bags.
Well ..... Personally I was rather surprised that a British judge handed such a severe sentence given that other scumbags usually got the regular 15 to 18 years behind bars ...
As an ex prisoner for petty crimes I can tell you that he will have it cushty in prison first of all a cell all to himself because he will be high risk and he will have a wide screen TV with remote, a kettle, and a landline phone but people can't call him he can only call numbers that are on the form when he first goes in. He will allso on good behaviour be able to buy bedding, curtains a rug and an xbox on good behaviour after 6 months maybe sooner. He will have his canteen brought to him once a week basically anything you can buy in the shops he can buy in there. There's allso a gym, library, counciling sessions which probably won't help him because he's never getting out. For serious offences like this he should be sent to an American prison where you are literally doing hard time nothing like English prisons at all!!!
Yeah there should be a penal colony on a Scottish island. Just a big wall around an island and nothing in the middle. Just prisoners huddled together like penguins.
too merciful, he might one day get to walk the streets again, Elle Edwards will not, and the others will carry scars and injuries for the rest of their life. This is what life sentences should be for.
The Death Penaulty should be reintroduced if there is not doubt of guilt. Not only is 48 years a life sentence for him, it is a life sentence for family, as well as The UK tax payer, Same for the killers of Lee Rigby and countless others.
The justice system is flawed and a charade. 48 years isn't enough. He should be jailed for life without any possibility of release. Bring back the death sentence for goodness sake!!! Life for life.
I support the 48 years for this cold blooded killer. However, someone explain to me how we live in a country where a gangster who shot someone gets 48 years ( rightly ) yet Aaron Campbell , who abducted, raped and murdered a 6 yearold from her bedroom in the most horrific way possible got only 27 years reduced to 25. Because he was 16?
There is something horribly wrong with the justice system in all parts of the UK.
Because majority of the judges etc people high up are also nonses! Justice system is a joke!
The UK justice systems seems to protect nonces. I wonder why looking at the royal family and their good friends rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville. They'll be out in way less than that as well, young enough to start again, have a family, live a fairly full life best case, or longer to get out and do it again
It's sick isn't it. Totally sick ✌
Because the judges have to follow the sentencing guidelines set out by Parliament. It simply doesn't matter what the judge may want to give they have to follow those guidelines otherwise the sentence gets appealed and the sentence reduced to that set out in those guidelines. You often hear judges call for reports on the guilty party after the verdict and those reports list things that are not heard in the trial and the information they get also has to be taken into account.
If you want things to change then lobby your MP and maybe even start a campaign to change those sentencing guidelines but commenting on social media won't change anything apart from maybe making you feel a little better.
Unfortunately this isn't unique to the UK. Actually some countries like the Nordics treat their criminals very well (even rapists and murderers) and in Norway's case, only serve 21 years maximum.
What a waste of life. He deserve all 48 of those years though and should never be allowed to walk free again.
48 years fantastic but why can't we have more sentences like this
Exactly!
Because this was so aggravated
And because it made front page news
No it's fn not fantastic at all 48 X £45k = £2million for this Rat.
Hand him over to medical research until death cost nothing and in the end might actually save a few lives
Fantastic news son
Now that is what you call a life sentence. Well done Judge.
Rest In Peace Elle Edwards🕊️♥️
Technically it’s a 48 year sentence
Why is this not the case for child killers? Don't get it.
At last a Judge who gives the correct sentence
And one who is (or appears to be) English!
Not at all. They're not allowed to. The bastard should have got the death sentence.
Instead of cowering to the do gooders
@@williambunter3311 He aint allowed to do that though is he. so he gave the best he could fucking retard
@@williambunter3311I'd rather see him getting bummed for the next 48 years whilst we're all going out for a pint and bbq.
This judge did incredibly well.
I love the way he trolled Chapman into thinking he was only going to get 30 years and then hit him with 48 🤣
@@oldbloke135 that was my favourite part😭
@@camila_ans I’d love to see the expression on his face at that point
even if released in 40 plus years he will be in a box and I heard from a very good source read between the lines what I have said it can happen at anytime
Take him down is always the best part "to spend time with the most ruthless AAA category prisoners in the country" hell have no fury for men that kill innocent people.
Her dad should be allowed 5 minutes alone with this scumbag that would be justice along with a true life sentence
@@quartzshine2828It would be tied up 🥱🙄🤡
@@quartzshine2828 The perp is a young muppet who had a gun, I guarantee the dad would not be in any danger what so ever. You can tell he is not a person you ought to mess with.
What if Connor beat him up tho?!
@@pauldonnelly3179Conor weighs an empty packet of crisp. He’d get flattened.
It wouldn't make it feel better.
Sentencing guidelines should be updated so that gangland killings automatically incur a whole life sentence. We need to get these vermin off our city streets for good.
What a scumbag. He couldn’t even kill the right person. He has absolutely no life or loved ones because he was out to kill on Christmas Eve
Who cares
I'll wait for the day you get filled with lead for your rolexes, then I can say "who cares"
@@robertkustos2931 🤡
Irrelevant
@@davman115 see you think your as big a hard man as him. Garentee you'd get handed. Fu*king pair of bensons 😂.
Just imagine getting a sentence longer than you've been on the face of this earth!
Happy days!!! He'll be 72 if he does his full sentence. Might show a bit of remorse by then!
A sentence double the time you've been alive**
@@TUTENSKENGS sorry?
@@ozbolli Chapman is 23. The sentence is 48 years minimum. At 23, you look back on your life and it seems very long, because your memory is still good. Looking ahead to 48 years, more than twice the time he has been alive, will seem like an eternity! It will seem even longer after a few reamings.
@@oldbloke135 oh right yeah fine. I wasn't making that point. But thanks for clarifying.
That's a very good verdict, not often heard.
@ArronJohnson
As they say, play silly games and win silly prizes, and he's certainly just won a silly prize.
You get less years for terrorism in UK.
American style verdict, the Judge is copying the American's .
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@@LabRat6619 I know, the sentence is a bit over the top.
Pretty much is terrorism
People that do this should never get out. The sentence should be ‘until death’. HOWEVER, 48 years is much better than the absolute crap our pathetic judges usually hand out.
pretty much until death, if he gets out it'll be in his late 70s that's if he lives till then. He wasted a life at least his is wasted albeit not ended
The judges don’t choose the sentences, they have to follow what they’re allowed to give.
As the judge kept pointing out they are constrained by the guidelines that Parliament sets. If they set any other sentence it just gets appealed and the guidelines used as evidence and the sentence reduced. Until you understand those guidelines your comment about pathetic judges just stinks of ignorance.
@@MickywayIf he’s 23 now then he’ll be 71 in 48 years so early 70’s you mean.
@@Cityzen567 I didn't know his exact age but thanks for informing me I stand corrected.
48 years of being a burden on taxpayers. Should just bring back the death penalty and be done with him.
Just under £2.5 million on todays rates and ignoring how much it will increase over the sentence (£49k year average)
Who’ll do the killing? Would you apply for such a job?
@@Ron.S. depends what it pays
@@crumbledor3 £250K a year
Death penalty costs more than life in prison
Well done to the judge we need more judges like you my heart is with the family
Lovely big sentence, well done that judge
The noose would have been better...
@@genwoolfe absolutely
@@genwoolfeso he's got it over and done with in a few weeks instead of 48 years👍
@@genwoolfeInstant death is a let off, suffering is a harsher punishment. Depends really which prison he’s sent
Yes but this keeps happening. Why are Anglo-Saxons in that area so violent though? Notice how the woke media never wants to discuss that? Also, I noticed how they are trying to keep Chapmans Anglo-Saxon face off the front papers and off the internet, and we all know why.
FINALLY!!! a proper sentence… 48 years, won’t be out until he’s 71 years old! This is what the public have been crying out for. This needs to be the standard sentence for murder.
The judge is a hero. Justice is served. This is very satisfying. I hope Elle's family can now find some peace.
Why aren't all murder and serious crimes given proper sentences like this. Well done to this judge and rip to those who lost their lives were injured and to their families the deepest sympathies for this atrocity
Cost money
@@MRMC99999money shouldn't come into it
@@stephencsillag 100% but definitely a factor
Probably get someone helping him apply for early release in 12 years, sad but it would not surprise me
Prisons are over full bursting at the seems
He will be inside until he's 70.
Good riddance, Elle Edwards was such a beautiful young Woman.
Should never be released
He’ll die in there
He won't in the UK. His sentence will be automatically cut in half even if he has no time off for good behaviour he will be out in 24 years and that is just not long enough.
@mirelle6010 he can appeal it, I mean if you manage good behaviour for 20-30 years and show reform etc, I mean time erodes anger and the people assessing him wouldn't have been part of the sentencing, completely doable to get out of prison. I've known scumbags who've blinded a woman in an acid attack, history of being a heroin addicted series criminal, had guns, ronned people, etc, went down for 11 months for blinding a woman in a revenge attack for kicking him out of a pub for starting a fight. Was out in 5, given a female parole officer and he was asking around the gym if anyone could get him caustic acid that we used down the toilets. British justice isn't fit for purpose it's a disgrace
48 year rec. He will serve all of it
Imagine being in your 20s and not seeing outside life until 70+ 💀💀💀
he won't see outside again
At a minimum if he gets parole
71
Hes not guna see outside life again. He will just reek havoc in the system for aslong as possible at £50,000+ a year tax payers cost. Being cat A or with that sentence AAA cat. 48 years is just bizarre never heard anything like it ❤
@@jacobleonard465171 =70+
He’s NEVER getting out.
Hope he rots in jail, what an awful human being 😠
Not just prison he’s got to worry about judgement day is his real punishment.
Correct sentence would be death penalty
SHOW CHAPMANS FACE WHEN HE WAS TOLD HE GOT 48 YEARS
He was probably crying 😢
@@garycroft4960 Apparently during the trial he was trying to hide himself from view and didn't want people looking at him.
And whenever they say X "showed no emotion" in court, well, that's just a temporary thing. Once out of sight most of them will absolutely break down.
What a sentence, fair play too the judge, i feel for the family as I had my father killed some years ago and you can never forget what happened 👍🏻
I am sorry for your loss.
@usmellofpoo thanks so much. It's appreciated, but it's not about me it's about that poor family, shame life has to be lost before anything is done with people like this with past convictions 👍🏻
@@G0lden3agle1I'm sorry for your loss
@@G0lden3agle1 absolutely! Stay strong mate!
LMFAO ... could save the tax payers with a short drop by rope
Don't think "saving money" is the winning argument for bringing back the death penalty. For me, in a case like this, a representative of the family should be given a "choice" from the judge of whether they would be satisfied by a life sentence or death by lethal injection with minimum 10 years imprisonment.
That way you honour the "sovereignty" of the family's world view that's had their loved one taken under horrific circumstances.
@@owenarnold7611Isn't having live for 60 more years denied of freedom an incredible punishment?
The rope everytime.
@@thrilla72 That's your opinion. I'm arguing that a better system would be the family (or family representative) should have a choice based on their world view. For all we know they might be religious or just simply would prefer the life sentence punishment aspect.
Either way the family should have the choice. Not you. Not me. Not the court.
@@burnaardnufc3173 Death penalty regret is a possibility. That's why I'd introduce the 10 year minimum sentence rule.... before they receive lethal injection. Just in case there's a change of mind or new evidence comes to light......
Outstanding sentencing. As he tries to act all tough and hard around the other inmates, it'll be sinking in that 74 is a shit age to come out of prison. I bet that's going to wipe the smile off his face.
Every judge in the UK should model themselves on this excellent judge and follow his example. All the evidence and proof was there to justify this sentence.
He's not making his own mind up y'know, or pulling numbers out of a hat. He's following the law and the numbers set down by parliament as all judges do....
@@unbaisedopinion1925 Yes, i know that, alot of Judges don't use the full extent of the law, he did, and that's my point.
The sentencing of Thomas Cashman and the unexpectedly epic minimum term he got seems to have set a precedent and sent a message. Commit this type of crime on Merseyside and you are setting yourself up for 40+ years, guaranteed.
This same judge also sentenced the Ashley Dale killers. They also got north of 40 years each, the oldest was already 41 years old so will probably die inside.
I think it's worked. Liverpool appears to have calmed down of late and these huge sentences are probably making it much harder to find foot soldiers willing to take on the risk. Those at the top also know how badly Merseyside Police tore through Cashman et. al. and don't want to bring attention to themselves either.
🥂 Lets have a whipround to buy the Judge a drink.
Why?
@@alfiebarrett2485 Are you a bit dim like?
Why it’s his job you plank
Judge is probably on about 300-500k+ a year I think he can buy his own drinks
@@blank-dr2kxyou forgot the question mark you muppet
Bring back the death penalty 😡
The death penalty is too merciful for him.
Lol a christian wanting the death penalty.
@@JimmyBoy9878 I am not religious. Why give him the easy way out by putting him to sleep forever?
I would rather die than spend the rest of my life in prison. The death penalty isn't punishing the person. It should be the get strung up in the street, tortured to near death then the rest of life in prison penalty.
@@JimmyBoy9878old testament says : 'an eye for an eye'.
That's brilliant. 48 years for some chancer who thought he was a big man. There are so many of these loons about who don't understand the reality of their actions. This ought to make them stand up and notice. Seriously ecstatic about this.
Enjoy the rest of your life Chapman when you go down.
Totally buzzing with this judgment. Bring on the next one.
There is a video on YT of some scouse toerags speeding along a Welsh motorway being chased by the police. The comments claim that Chapman was driving and they could be right - it looks like him from behind.
Bring death penalty back
No what about miscarriage of justice, there are people in prison who did not commit the crime and sentenced to life what about them? Him getting 48 is good enough
To quick the death sentence it means he will not suffer 48 years means he will suffer every day
@@seantapper498Suffer? In our UK Jails? Free Gym , Games consoles , Pool tables u name it
@erkkadzai8226 but when u die u a sleep that it no suffing peace long sleep he lock up and he will have to watch is back for 48 years beating up occasionally he suffering
@@karencussoutaboy6214Precisely. Glad to see someone here with some actual logic and understanding.
71 years old when he gets out, I’m 47 now, thinking back to my early 20s seems like forever ago, adding a further 24 before parole….. mental.
your younger than his sentence. Im 45, its unimaginable to think of it. Ouch
@@295walk only just younger 🤣
I'm 37. If he'd been jailed on the day I was born - and factoring his time on remand - he'd still have another decade to run.
It's terrifying. And when you think about how much everything has changed since 1987 and how my own life has played out with all the freedom in the world...
Well done judge a proper sentence.
What's the point of concurrent, it doesn't mean jack. He'll only serve for the murder not the rest of the crimes he's just been sentenced too
It doesn't matter because even tho he will be in jail until he is over 70 at least.He can stew in a cell .😂 If i had my way he would be swinging ➰ but i think enjoying dropping soap on a rope in the shower is a close second.🚿🚿🚿🤗
If one charge ever gets dropped, they still stay in prison to serve the other sentences
@@marksmanpola8055 He will be watching too many staircases.🤗
Because he carried out all the offences on the same day. If they didn’t then if someone nicked a car and smashed into another whilst drunk you could end up in prison for the rest of your life… once you add 3 years for stealing car, 3 for burglary to get the keys, 2 for criminal damage, 1 for driving without insurance, 1 for driving without licence, blah blah etc etc = 20 years
Kids about to find out how real bad men move enjoy kid hope it was worth it.
I don't understand why the judge or the law doesn't see this as deserving a full term life sentence. How much worse would it have to be?
Sentencing guidelines.
he got a minimum of 48 years. That's 48 Christmases, 48 Easters, 48 long hot summers, 48 birthdays, 48 years not been able to go the pub or have a girlfriend. He'll spend 48 years in a concrete cell always looking over his shoulder. When he's 70 he can apply for parole IF he's still alive and even then that can be turned down. This is a good sentence because his life is effectively over.
I think it was because it wasn’t intentional that he planned to kill her it was for someone else.
it's actually a better sentence than life.He might be hopeful knowing that he'll be out one day,. Even if he wins his parole claim he will have nobody. No job, probably no family or friends, but only his criminal past. All he will have is his end. I really hope that he doesn't die in prison but shortly after he'll eventually gets released. So that his death be meaningless just as his life was
Probably because she wasn't the intended victim and there was only one death. Had there been multiple deaths, it would have been whole life. Had one of his intended victims been killed, that would have satisfied the premeditation and planning criteria - again, whole life.
"He can go down". Fantastic, Judge. No need to show any respect to a disgusting murderer. Forget him, never forget Elle.
The judge ordered Chapman like he was a piece of excrement on his shoe. “Stand up” “He can go down”. Just what he deserves.
Imagine how long his hair will be when he gets out.
He wont have any
I'm eating a double sausage and egg mcmuffin 😊
The sentence fits the crime & more harsh sentencing is needed for those in our communities that carry out such heinous crimes!
There was another man who was sentenced to setting fire on a house killing a mother and her children he got 40 years. Never really seen sentences with that amount of years here in the UK, hope it continues for crimes if this magnitude
A Judge who is willing to give a just sentence. High five to this Judge.
Needle comes to mind and give all the costs that it will take to keep him locked up to Elle's family
48 rec this judge has sent out a very strong message to wannabe gangsters. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Used to knock about with lads exactly like this. Big Points to prove on who has the biggest balls, until they get locked away. Sad thing is, none of this brings back the life’s of those who are gone and still doesn’t take the nightmares away of having to live on without your loved ones around you. Anyone thinking about this gang life, swerve it. Get a job, work hard, get some discipline and focus your energy on the right things. Money comes and goes, especially the quick money, your memories and time doesn’t. Love to everyone ❤️
His parole officers have probably not even been born yet. Let that sink in for the RAT.
Or else there're still at school.
@@johnpirie4804 And at his parole hearing they'll most probably agree that he is no longer a threat to society.
😂😂😂
Looked after for 48 years by the tax payer and he gets to earn a living inside and not spend a penny.
As an officer inside HMP walls he will have the top tier safety going with his disgusting!
What an original take on incarceration, truly profound.
Yeah prison is a joke. I’d change the punishment to forced slave labour
For when a crime committed, to never see day light. To rot in that hole. No freedom. He’ll have that eating away at him for life
@@NeckbeardPr1methe prison system is designed to change and develop and not punish, this is why they’re not good enough for severe criminals
48 years not good enough bring back death penalty i feel for that poor girl and her family
REST IN PEACE ELLE THIS SHOULD'VE NEVER HAPPENED WE ARE BECOMING LIKE LITTLE AMERICA ❤️
Yep, first everyone got fat as fuck like America, then came more guns!
Becoming? Were the future version..
Hardly. Last year there were 4 fatal shootings in Merseyside. In Chicago there were 2832 shootings recorded and 695 homicides.
Of the 4 people shot dead in Merseyside 3 were the wrong person. Our criminals need to give up using firearms and go back to beating each other.
@@onetoten1 I meant the uk is the future version of usa by the way they're heading.
If he had done this in south America, his mother and loved ones would face payback the likes he could never imagine.
Gladly we don't do that here.
What a stupid comment
Yeah thats not a good thing
Right so if he killed a woman in South America you'd kill another woman because that makes it so much better
That’s horrible, why should his family be punished for his actions?
Wish we could see this evil mans face as he's being sentenced.
Was he in court for sentencing? .. I hope he is enjoying the sunshine 😂 I am as i sit at home enjoying my freedom .
He was in court. His lordship told him to stand.
Usual suspects, broken Britain, RIP Beautiful Elle Edwards❤
Why are the Anglo-Saxon community leaders quiet about this? The whole community facilitates this with it's silence.
Fascinating stuff to be right there. Was hoping to see the man in the Dock.
I applaud this judge but I still hope he gets the s. T kicked out of him really bad and let him suffer like the poor family of the victim
See you later 👋🏻 I’ll be long dead.
He can go down....that's a drop the Mike moment.....SAVAGE ...
The judges voice sounds like one of those 80s school programme voices. If you know you know lol
He does! And it's soothing lol
We need to bring the death sentence back for animals like this
"Animals"? That's a bit racist isn't it?
RIP elle such sad thing to happen to father daughter RIP you are with the angels now sweetheart
love that - 48 years is enough to see him off
Be someone's bitch with his nice long hair!
I feel so sorry for the Family, especially the Father. I feel his sorrow and his utter rage, I wish I could do something to help him.
Half a century inside. Finally a proper sentence
Nice to see a decent jail term here. Very well done to the judge.
48yrs from now...hel get out and still expect people to think hes a gangsta.
He's gonna come out and get mugged by chavs
Doubtful he'll live that long in prison
@@4Kandlez good point.
@4Kandlez I say it cause I know people whove done 20 yrs,and come out still acting like a rude boy.
Tbf he did shoot people with a UZI. If that's not gangsta then what is? 🤔
I don't care how much of a macho image you try and portray, 48 years is going to hurt!
Any person who wields a gun in the UK, has no right to be outside
Excuse me? I don't really understand your point.
Yeah, what about farmers? Plenty of reasonable and sensible gun owners in the UK. A little bit naive of you.
Looks like we need to send every farmer, rich toff and soldier to jail then.
@@Paulstrickland01I walk around with a small pelet gun just incase any jumped up person tries to attack me
@@PeterParker-yr8yb If you walk around with a BB gun the police can't legally take it off from you
Mineshaft would save the taxpayer and provide a strong warning to anyone like minded!
48 years let that sink in people was not worth it
Wonderful 👍
I’m telling you now, if we actually brought back the death penalty for any offender, rape, stabbing murder and theft or whatever it maybe that is literally wrong, I think they would think twice about doing this. There is far more chance of being caught in this time we live in
Bring back the death sentence already, we dont need to be paying dor these people
This judge must at times dispair at how wicked humanity can be.Well done for the dignity he gave to those who suffered, including the inconsolable families😢
If the death sentence was reinstated I wonder if these ppl would think twice before slaughtering the innocent
look it's perfectly understandable knee-jerk reaction to think that, but know that death penalty has NEVER been a deterrent to crime. NEVAH! look it up if you do not believe me.
This idiot clearly doesn't think about consequences, so I would say no it wouldn't make any difference.
No. Hence why we ditched it. Too many innocent people will be killed yet again.
If he knew he was going to be executed he would probably kill again to escape arrest.
Probably the best judge Britain has this man.
My heart felt condolences to the Edwards family and friends beautiful Elle R I P
Can someone explain the purpose of concurrent sentancing as it seems to me it's only the longest one that matters.
We need more sentences like this.
I know of a local case, he only got 6 months for rape with the freaking witness and victim on trial.
There's a LOT of wrong in England. Well, the rise of crime, grooming gangs and stabbings says it all.
"Grooming gangs"? You mean the ones that make up way less than one percent of all child s3xual abuse cases? So the 99%+ of abuse that not "grooming gangs" isn't a problem in England worth mentioning? Why's that?
Sick guy you have to be cold and evil to run bullets through a woman or any human being.
Fantastic sentence,
When did they start bringing cameras into the courtroom?
Nice to see real justice being served 👌
This country needs the death penalty to be brought back
no, its too easy for them.
So bottom line is its 48 years.
Or his bottom will get it for 48 years.
@@cutlerlon8468 good i hope so
If he gets parole
It's truly sad we live in a world with monsters like this murdering people with no remorse
A beautiful young life destroyed for nothing by this scum. No acknowledgement of guilt. No remorse. No repentance. A coward. May he rot in hell. He's lucky there's no death penalty.
A better punishment is remove his arms from the shoulders - job done and ensures no more offending. and the money the tax payers pay housing him in prison for 48 years should be awarded to the family. Now that's appropriate justice and will send a strong message to the other scum bags.
Well ..... Personally I was rather surprised that a British judge handed such a severe sentence given that other scumbags usually got the regular 15 to 18 years behind bars ...
‘Take him down’
Throw away the key 🔑
As an ex prisoner for petty crimes I can tell you that he will have it cushty in prison first of all a cell all to himself because he will be high risk and he will have a wide screen TV with remote, a kettle, and a landline phone but people can't call him he can only call numbers that are on the form when he first goes in. He will allso on good behaviour be able to buy bedding, curtains a rug and an xbox on good behaviour after 6 months maybe sooner. He will have his canteen brought to him once a week basically anything you can buy in the shops he can buy in there. There's allso a gym, library, counciling sessions which probably won't help him because he's never getting out. For serious offences like this he should be sent to an American prison where you are literally doing hard time nothing like English prisons at all!!!
Yeah there should be a penal colony on a Scottish island. Just a big wall around an island and nothing in the middle. Just prisoners huddled together like penguins.
nope he goin cat A he will be shipped out of merseyside
@@1964topman they'll probably keep him in the north somewhere. Wakefield, Full Sutton, Frankland maybe. Heard Cashman is in Wakey
If that was in the states he would have been given life without parole! We need stronger sentences in the UK
RIP Ellie xx
I’m trying to add them up in my head, was that 103 years?
I would have thought the part where the judge said "48 years" would have gave it away. 🤦
Cost to the taxpayer, bring bank the death penalty for people like this and pedos!
It would certainly send an unmistakable message to others considering committing such offences 👍🏻
@@HaMashiachSavesNo it wouldn't. It didn't before, it never did, so what changed that would make it work?
@@Tyler_Fuller Yeh. It doesn’t stop sickos, does it 👍🏻
too merciful, he might one day get to walk the streets again, Elle Edwards will not, and the others will carry scars and injuries for the rest of their life. This is what life sentences should be for.
I hope the other inmates put his hair in pigtails and throw him round like a 6 pack at a party!
😂😂😂
And a pint of hooch and a game of pass the ring piece
@@wodens-hitman1552 😂😂
The Death Penaulty should be reintroduced if there is not doubt of guilt. Not only is 48 years a life sentence for him, it is a life sentence for family, as well as The UK tax payer, Same for the killers of Lee Rigby and countless others.
since when is being 22 years old an extenuating circumstance?? That's bloody old enough to not murder people...what a joke.
The sentence was no joke, he got six more years than Cashman.
Wonder how many love letters this guy is going to get
From the psycho on the next wing?
Loads. Girls love a bad ass..
Throw the key away.
The justice system is flawed and a charade. 48 years isn't enough. He should be jailed for life without any possibility of release. Bring back the death sentence for goodness sake!!! Life for life.
I know he’s someone’s kid but you know some people don’t live that long.
48s fine by the time he's out he's a cripple