Thai History | VICTORY MONUMENT Bangkok | The Franco-Thai War | What's the Story?
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Thailsnd's History: Bangkok. The Victory Monument is one of the citys most famous landmarks, a towering monument celebrating victory in the brief war between France and Thailand in 1940-41. The story of what happened, the back story on their previous conflict in 1893 when the French were attempting to colonise all in their path around South East Asia.
We also look at the design and the sculptor, Corrado Feroci and his work with the Thai Royal Family, his legacy and expertise that influenced a generation of Thai artists.
Plus we take a walk around the neighbourhood, see the sights, the sounds, the people, nightlife, the back streets, alleys, sois and the canals.
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It is perhaps not commonly realised unless you get up very close to Victory Monument, but it is not just that the names of the fallen are inscribed on the monument, in fact their ashes are interred inside the monument. There are locked gates at the base of the monument that lead inside.
Interesting the victory monument and the fine arts by the florence italian corrado ferracci, it must be a great ride in his life for him in 🇹🇭🙏🏻❤️
Brilliant history lesson. I suppose someone less cautious than you and I might reflect upon a subtext to your comments and draw a historical parallel to the Thai government's geopolitical decision-making during the 1940s and the present day. But, I suppose someone may do that on another platform!
Nicely done Pat, thank you. My favorite part of the video was in the black and white clips of soldiers marching around the monument there was a soi dog looking annoyed with them.
That's typical Charlie! Now that I''ve mentioned the Paknam incident I gotta get to Samut Prakan and visit the forts, this is where we can get together.
@@BangkokPat looking forward to it:)
Thanks. Few tubers are interested in Thai history.
I think it'll become as essential as beaches and living on $10 a day
Was at Saxophone one night and a farang patron joined in with the band on the bongos, was brilliant ! 😃
Fonzie? :)
@@mattcarroll2725 Blonde guy in a suit 😉
…dude! You’re like a Ph. D in the deep local history vibe 😎#Excellent
I checked out The Stay Cafe based on your suggestion. Great food and the couple running it are really friendly.
Great to hear that. Hope the vindaloo wasn't too hot!
It's quite impressive seeing the Victory Monument from the BTS
It's a great view, I agree Shaun.
I'm living at victory monument (anu sawari) now & i love this part of city alot ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Great to hear that ismail, I suppose the noise fades away after a while, I lived under the flight path to Don Muang for 2yrs and hardly heard it after a month..
Such an insightful historical info. I am Thai but this stuff is new to me. Great work Pat.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it and learned a little, Cheers.
Very interesting. Never knew the victory it commemorated. Worked at a language school around there and it was always crowded with minibuses at that time, so was never a place I wanted to stick around.
Very informative vlog Pat well explained , the victory monument is humbling when you see it and the names in it.
ithe French involvement in Asia is interesting area to read up on ..
I looking forward to trying to make time and go to the saxophone club
Thanks Jimmy, I always had it in mind and when I did the first Victory Monument video I thought people might be a bit sensitive to the history but it shows how ''daring'' you get as time goes on.
The best explanation of the 'Victory' I've heard in over 30 years. Looking forward to your series on TV.
Thanks, I did my best not to ramble!
VM is one of the pulses of BKK. It's always a bit thrilling to go there. The Skytrain has only enhanced it status in that regard. The elevated walkway shows the city in all its kaleidoscopic glory. I once met a monk up there who gave me a blessing for my travels. I still carry with me the yellow stamped cloth he gave me.
Great video, I will defiantly check out the indian restaurant.
In 2013. there was a Australian comedy show called "Hamish and Andy's Gap Year Asia" . It was broadcast from a bar in Bangkok, Thailand, called 'The Raintree' near Victory Monument. The show consisted of six episodes. The intro was from the bar in each episode, but they filmed in various parts of Thailand.
Love the saxophone pub, mediocre food but great drinks and music! Hope it reopens
Never heard great things about the food!
Great video - I wonder why you don't narrate over it all instead of using subtitles. You have a great spoken voice and delivery. I'd like to see more history from Thailand - this was very interesting (I'm a keen reader of 20th-century SE Asian history). I remember seeing, on another Thai vlogger's channel, some footage of the 'Seven Kings of Siam' statues at Rajabhakti Park. Wonderful statues (designed by Thailand's Fine Arts Department), but the Park itself seems to have been mired in controversy (allegations of corruption).
In brief, the Victory Monument represents the discredited regime at post-WWII onward. I do not have to comment discreetly in this post-war modernization period. I assure modern Thailand accepts the fact that the historic landmark is the discredited regime with the backstory of bravery Thai soldiers who sacrificed their lives during the Franco-Thai War. I am Thai, and will outline the history of the landmark in a nutshell.
We need to rewind the history back into the first dispute in the Franco-Siamese War during the reign of King Rama V. Laos and Cambodia were the vassal states of Siam before the outbreak in the Franco-Siamese War in 1893. Both former vassal states pledged the allegiance under the French Protectorate State by choice to liberate themselves from the Siamese rule. The Siamese regiment was deployed to restore order in the Laotian vassal state (The Siamese perspective) and encountered the first blow in the Franco-Siamese War.
The Laotian-French protectorate state was the established diplomacy between the Kingdom of Laos and the French Third Republic. The Siamese deemed the situation as the betrayal and disloyal Laotian subject for their initiated coup d'état to cause the event in "massacred under the French protection by Siamese soldiers".
The colonial French infantry were unable to resist the Siamese invasion into the Laotian-French protectorate state. The French fleet was deployed to cause the Paknam Incident in the maritime warfare at Phra Chulachomklao Fort and continued to pressed onward to launch the French naval gateway along Chao Phraya River to form the blockade in the Bangkok capital.
The Paknam Incident caused the Siamese defeat in the Franco-Siamese War in the maritime warfare to pay the indemity for war reparations. The Siamese victory was still ongoing across the Mekong River against the colonial French soldier in the Laotian-French protectorate state at the time. The compromising term was to order the Siamese retreat in the Laotian vassal state for the French territorial annexation in exchange for the French fleet to depart Chao Phraya River permanently after receiving the indemnity. The Franco-Siamese War was the dispute between the Kingdom of Siam and the French Third Republic.
Fast forward the history into WWII, Siam became Thailand as a nation prior 3 months before the commencement of WWII. The Franco-Thai War was the unsettled dispute over the territorial acquisition in French Indochina between 1940-1941 during the early phase of WWII. It was the retaliation over the unsettled vengence from the previous Franco-Siamese War between 1893-1907. The Franco-Thai War was the dispute between Thailand and Vichy France during the Phibul regime against a German collaborationist state. The French Third Republic became a failed state to the German occupation zone from the event in the Dunkirk Evacuation to the Battle of France. Phillipe Pétain signed the Armistice with Adolf Hitler to pre-empt the failed state of entire France. Therefore, Vichy France became a German collaborationist. Other Overseas Colonial French territories had to adopt the policy of Vichy France, including French Indochina, after the German occupation was successful in the western expansion.
Both Phibul Regime and Vichy France were considered the discredited regime after the close stage for the Allied-Victory in WWII. It was the Free Thai Movement that got Thailand off the hook from the accusation of a war crime.
The Victory Monument was erected to proclaim the indecisive victory for Thailand against the French colonial power. It was the first time for Thailand to be able to extract the territorial loss from the European concession in the history. In hindsight, the mediated-Japanese armistice was the actual reason in the favor of Thailand to force the Vichy French colonial administration into their surrender.
On 8 December 1941, the imminent Japanese invasion of Thailand was decisive and compromised Thailand to sign an armistice and military alliance treaty to become the only Japanese collobarationist state in South East Asia. The Thai Marshal also had to compromise the Japanese in compliance to the Japanese initiation in their mediated-armistice for the Thai victory in the Franco-Thai War.
Before the Allied-Victory in 1944, the Vichy French colonial administration was dissolved into Free France and pressed forward to close in at the Western Front. The Phibul regime was also dissolved into the Free Thai Movement and save Thailand under the protection of the Allied-Coalition. Free France later became the French Fourth Republic after the defeat of the Tripartite Pact in WWII. Charles De Gaulle was the former government-in-exile and became the provisional government of the French Fourth Republic to use his veto power at UN Sanctions against Thailand. He demanded Thailand to return the extracted territories back into French Indochina. Otherwise, Charles De Gaulle would go an extra mile to accuse Thailand of a war crime at UN sanctions for being the former Japanese collaborationist. Thailand acted in compliance to the French Fourth Republic and returned the extracted territory back into French Indochina.
Not long afterwards, the First Indochina War was erupted against the colonial French administration to suffer the forced decolonization in the early Cold War from 1945 to 1954.
Thanks very much for the extensive story and info..
nice to know the history of Victory Monument
i only go there for boat noodles of mini van to ayuthaya
thx for the info :)
It's a history/victory looked upon in different ways, but it looks great all the same.
Thanks for providing the information on the monument inregards to the war as I swear I've seen it
Unique story, technically they did beat the French regardless of the outcome.
Another great video: Interesting and well-researched; professional delivery and voice; great compositional eye for the visuals, especially your 'still' video shots. Thank You & Cheers!
Cheers Michael!
Thanks Pat about the history behind Victory Monument and I've got to try the Indian restaurant.
Once again, we’ll done :-)
Original content presented in an easy to watch, professional manner. Thank you. I learn something every time I tune into your channel.
I recall reading about the Paknam incident in “Thailand : A short history (Wyatt) which is a great read. He also covers an incident between the Thai navy and Thai Air Force ( a video in itself I think).
A great area that we visit every time we are in Bangkok and my wife drags me around showing me where she used to hang after school back in the day
Also, does anybody have low volume issues with the video ? The last few have been very low in volume ( for me) and then when the ad hits it’s like I’m at a death metal gig.
Thanks once again
Thanks so much Pat for putting all this together. Must have been a lot of work.
Cheers Geoff, It's essential knowledge I think, especially if you go on Mastermind!
Tried out The StayCafe Indian food thanks to Pat’s recommendation. Food was amazing and great value. Met Pat there too. Keep up the great work mate.
Thanks and it was nice to meet you too. Also many thanks for the tip on the cat thing!
Another quality piece Pat. Thanks again.
Back about three years ago I had a hankering for some quality live music. I did some research and selected The Saxophone Club as the place to check out. Unfortunately my mate and I opted for Soi 11 instead. We ended up slightly disappointed.
I am guessing Saxophone Club will eventually reopen (at least I hope so). I look forward to checking it out if it does when I return to Bangkok.
It has actually reopened today, I just got a message!
This is a very good VDO , many details . I like your VDO.
Good watch thx Pat. I'll get that coffee to ya in BKK soon...
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Thanks, glad you enjoyed it, always like a good coffee!
Thanks Pat for this Very Interesting History Lesson. Nice to Know. 🙏
Cheers Gert!
I like your Clear way and your Knowledge to tell the History Stories. 🙏
Another great production. 👍
Thanks a lot mate.
Hi pat in 06, I stayed a mile north of victory monument, ..I did enjoy the area , ok I had a lovely bird and all seems well,
One night I went to hotel, in basement, kareoke, ....it was defo thai girls for Thai men!, ...the singing was rubbish but then I realised the singing was a way to see the goods , for the Thai men 🙏
Thanks Pat another interesting and enjoyable video. Love your work, mate.
Thanks Jaques.
Hello Pat,
I appreciate you videos and learn quite a bit about Bangkok before getting a chance to visit again. If someone wants more details about the Battle of Ko Chang, there is a pretty fair Wikipedia page. One last note, the Thaï Navy lost over 300 sailors and about a quarter of its fleet was sunk or badly damaged. The Japanese intervened just two days later to stop the hostilities. My point being that the French naval incursion ended the conflict, it did not start it.
Superb. Merci beaucoup for the video
Great show Pat.
Cheers mate
Informative video on Anusawari Chai Samoraphum. Happy to see my Jesuit community house, Baan Xavie,r as your backdrop :)
Thanks, Pat. Great vid.
Cheers, thank you.
Consistently great content right here Pat, this is the kind of thing I want to see. Cheers mate 👍
Loved the history lesson and vintage footage!
I love the history talk very much and the old thai film footage always impresses me . I would love to know about the changing Lao/Border over the years. My wife is an Isaan girl and she claims to originally a Lao girl . However If Iam read it correctly The Isaan provinces where prior to 1893 part of Thailand.
What's up Pat!! You are one of the best UA-cam channels on Thailand for sure!!
In the past, Thais specialized in combat, punch boxing and Muay Thai were told in French and Japanese. They are very good at the geography of the country. There are still firearms and cannons that are produced by themselves and weapons from East Asia, China, Japan and Europe because Siam has long trade with Europeans and East Asia, China, Taiwan, Japan and Russia before World War I, about 500 years old, is the big brother. of the original ASEAN region without a doubt If there was no World War Laos and Cambodia wouldn't have happened, and I've known this since living in Hua Hin before the epidemic 3 years ago. Thai people are so friendly that you don't even want to cause them problems. Thai people have many face shapes. You will be the whole world there. All races are there. everything is very good Cheaper and better than Thai baht compared to other currencies. I may have thought of it myself or I don't know. But I think you should know that there are nice countries in the world. This is Thailand, my 1st home. From living in Thailand and vacationing in Thailand for 3 years, I'm sure why Japanese people don't want to fight Thai people in World War 2. They are friendly but When it comes to fighting, they fight and are very scary. From former homeless people in north Pacific ✌✌😍😍🍻🍻👍👍
Another great one, Pat!
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Cheers Julian!
Thank you very much for another nice vide Pat :) :) :)
Very nicely done.The history is
accurate and well research.
Thank you very much indeed!
A fascinating video
Thanks Alan.
You are really a Professor of the ins & outs of Bangkok.... Another well made and edited video. Well done!!
Thanks! 😃 Glad to hear that John. Cheers mate.
Great video again Pat,finally worked out how to buy you Coffee definitely the best channel there is about Bangkok history,,,,
Great work !
Congratulations for bringing up some of the modern era history of Thailand. I realize that WW2 had some complex issues and loyalties amongst the Thai people . You have a keen insight on the past without sugar coating the acquiescence to Japan . Please present more information as to how the Thai government negotiated a treaty with the Allies .
Really interesting Pat. Didn't realise the Japanese were into peacekeeping then. I made the mistake of trying to meet my girlfriend at the time, at VM. 'Meet you by the column' was not useful advise, and it took 30mins to find her. I'll look up the buffet & jazz bar in Oct hopefully. I used to catch minivans down to Hua Hin. Now it's the bus, through Dusit, to Southern Bus Station. For another buffet, I can recommend the Thai breakfast buffet at Don Muang Amari Hotel footbridge, if it's still there. 280bt maybe
I've been to Amari Don Muang, it's very good indeed. Victory Monument is tough to work out on a first visit.
I really love the days, I thrived in Bangkok. This video really takes me back to the place. Though I must admit, I cared less about the past, for I was just living in the moment and loving the presence of fellow travelers that make Bangkok a paradise for all.
I lived within walking distance of that place for over ten years..
You obviously liked it, despite the reported negatives. You can get used to a place regardless of hustle and bustle!
If only the French had realised that Colonialism had ended with WW2 and became a trading partner with their former colonies, their product sales would be huge in South East Asia. Next time I'm in Bangkok I will definitely have to have a look at the Victory Monument. A very interesting presentation.
Always enjoy the History..Been there in that area many times ..ate there,drank coffee,shopped,caught a mini Van...but I must admit I have never walked around the Monument..Have to go back now..Thxs Pat another good video tour.
Thanks John, have a good trip around there!
Love your videos Pat. Another great one. Keep them coming .. 🙏..
Thanks Jon.
Very interesting video. I figured victory monument had something to do with WW II. Thanks for the great content
Brilliant Pat, I never knew that. Next time I walk past I will remember. Also, for me Victory Monument is famous for having the Hospital of Tropical diseases near by where you can get your jabs a lot lot cheaper than UK. Keep up the great work, love your variety.
Great place to be if you're feeling unwell, plus a few pharmacies stock prescription medication you can buy over the counter.
Another good and informative video Pat. Love the way you show the Highlights around town and then... venture into the darker nearby soi, my favorite parts of this great city.
Great informative video - thanks for the history lesson.
Glad you enjoyed it Nick. Cheers.
Great video Pat. Thank you mate.
Cheers Bill.
Anusawari Chai Samoraphum ,There was also one of the largest open air bars by the compass area during the Vietnam conflict in the 60's, great informative doco's my second home is just up the road in Ari,hope to get back soon?
Thanks Rocky, I wasn't aware of the bar during the R&R days but Saphan Khwai was just up the road where many stayed.
There used to be a sign there saying about the open bar may have gone now take good care out there.Best regards from NZ
Pat did a purely historical video?! Insta-thumbs up without even having watched! Ayutthaya please..
(I've just seen you've got a BK old city vid I haven't watched either..damn YT algorithm..it's like it doesn't even know me..)
Thanks! An untold story on YT.
About 10 years ago i was on Koh Chang and apparently there is a monument to the Thai “victory” against the French Navy…. I was looking for it, there was oddly no signage pointing where to go and the road that im guessing takes you to the monument was very steep and washed out by the rain… i had my gf on the back seat of the 🛵 and didn’t want to risk going down let alone trying to get back up, so we turned around. I always kinda regret not being able to find the monument as im a keen military history buff….
In Trat there's a museum too, looks quite interesting. Lots of models of the battle and 'souveniors'
Well done 👍
Thank you 👍
Great video and story behind it. Thank you!
Great Video Pat and Thais were right booting the French out,look at the damage caused through the American intervention in Vietnam after the French were booted out by the Vet Minn,ill definitely visit the saxophone pub.
Thanks Louis, seems to be an MO of them during those days. Can't take the heat so retreat and get bailed out.
superb, well researched and put together,,cheers pat
Thanks Stephen.
Great stuff again Pat, nice one. That Takraw game looks quality, although don't think my old bones would be able to handle it!
Always learning new things from your videos Pat. Thanks for the work and effort you put in bringing them to us.
Nice place, like to shop around there, good deals both quality restaurants and stores. The bus and BTS, what more to ask for? Almost no tourists makes it attractive location. Almost everything coses at 10 pm is the only draw back.
Interesting video. Thanks
Great content, as always.
Thank you very much.
Really great content.
Love all your videos. We will be back to Thailand next year. Do you do private tours?
Nuce content i support you 😉👍
The mouth of the Gulf of Thailand just discovered the Crouching Tiger cannon. many decades ago It's made in London. They are stationed at Phra Chula Fort, 5 cylinders and 3 cylinders at the Pee Phi Phi Samut Fort. at Phra Samut Chedi District Samut Prakan Province.
I've only gone here for the Boat Noodles. ;)
What a confusing time. The French were occupied by Nazi Germany in 1941, yet were still out fighting Thailand who were in bed with the German-allied Japanese then. Some allies.
Confusing indeed, probably why it's not part of history taught in schools here.
So what sort of "victory" is it if they lost to the French? Maybe epitaph monument would be closer to the truth?
The combat part they ''won'' but politics stopped them getting the ''prize''
good evening
Hope you enjoyed it!
Nice documentary as always. And this time only one cat - on a tshirt. it seems this area it's not a cat prefered zone :D
Maybe it's the traffic noise there, hard to be lazy and sleep, and too many people always
Pat, no alley cats in this video?? ...
Didn't see many and Victory Monument a very noisy place.
@@BangkokPat Great video as always. I passed by the monument all the time on the BTS, but never knew its history. Next time I will actually visit there.
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The area you marked on the map for Laos is Saiyabuli province not champassak.
the arrows were pointing to a general area not the exact point of the arrow
@@BangkokPat sorry it wasn’t a criticism.
Is there a good jazz scene in Bangkok?
Definitely, has been for years.
Are Rabbit travel cards for the BTS and METRO? and if so does pre-loading the card give the user any kind of discount on travel, thanks
rabbit is BTS only and some retail outlets accept it. You just top up as you wish but you can deals on buying 10/20/30/50 trips at the same time.
@@BangkokPat thanks for the reply, I'm hopefully moving to Bangkok August of this year to start a Thai language course, the school is in the centre of the city but I'm looking at condos on the outskirts of the city, "much more reasonable rents", so the BTS will be my main form of transport into the city centre. Thanks again and will be watching your videos for insight into Bangkok suburbs.
lived there in the 90 is...in a soi nearby with my then gf...before sky train and before mass internet time...got depressed after a while...not much green...constant mass traffic...everywhere backed w. people rushing running ...nowhere to take a quiet stroll.....all gray.dark..raining constantly...in the room we had 50 Celsius and no aircon...what a fu...of a place... nevertheless to say that relationship didnt last even the lady was a stunner but a character failure..on your video the area looks really good
Sounded like an absolute nightmare mate.
@@BangkokPat in a way yes...but there is beauty in every misery...the situation with women is that the outside you see immediately...their bodys u can experience usually short after ....their hidden mental " quality's" only are discovered with time...
Sax pub is closed??
It's just reopened today
@@BangkokPat Cool I arrive soon, gotta see Swing Kings
Audio issues, some bits are so quiet I can't hear the commentary..
Thanks, I checked the levels. it's all pretty equal.
Vietnam: Welcome to Salty Spitoon. How tough are ya?
Thailand: How tough am I? I had defeated a Western colonial power in a war!
Vietnam: Yeah. So?
Thailand: Without resorting to guerrilla warfare.
Vietnam: I'm sorry for the trouble, here you go. *lets Thailand in*
They say Thailand's never been conquered but thatsvonly because they let the Japanese in without a fight