I was born '93 n J Coles middle child hit home from the start. My hiphop idols dont include any mumble rappers, I was brought up around Em controversy, Jay, Fat Joe, Busta Bust, Twister and Biggie and Tupacs death. My specific generation is the JIDs, the Earthgangs, the tokens, and a lot of youtube rappers. The problem with the millenials (mumble rappers) is culturally hiphop is totally different to how older heads will feel it. To me I see it as a different genre and it helps me appreciate it. ANY MILENIALS READING THIS Respect is a 2way road, respect what your idols respected, if hiphop is your profession learn your history its your job to help bridge the gap of understanding as just much as anyone else
@@juanpabloalvarengalopez3127 Seems like people think millennials are just people younger than them. Currently milliennials are people born between 1981 and 1996. But i think he just means gen Z.
Juan Pi Alvarenga if thats all you got from what I said you are 100% part of the problem. Dont try put me in the box when your the square, if u want to comment come at the right angle.
@@Asherrager A Millennial is a persone born between 1981 and the 2000, Nowadays it's a term used to describe people born after the 2000. That said most mumble rappers are between the ages of 15 (maybe even younger) to 35, therefore by both definitions all mumble rappers are Millennials.
I really wish DX would stick to content like this. I'm at the last of my rope here, I'm sick of scrolling past 5 videos a day about what Tekashi 69 and/or 50 Cent have said recently. I'm about to unsubscribe.
Plus Justin is still going his own version of the Breakdown MURS is on tour and making music, streaming games, and will probably be back doing his own like Justin
Cute Little Suzie new rap I'd mysognistic and unlyrical (most not all). There are some good rappers like RA THE Rugged Man, Kendrick, Cole, Joey, (gatekeepers of flow, they are Extensions of instinctual soul), Denzel Curry, etc. Old rap was consistently incredibly lyrical, fun, and actually required skill and talent. Also old rap had more topics to rap about and better beats. Tribe called quest, wu tang clan (who's lyrics still haven't been fully deciphered!), MC Ren, Method Man, Jay Z, Insoectah Deck, Raekwon the chef, U God, Tupac, Nas, Biggie , AZ, Big Pun, Killah Priest, Ghostface Killah, RZA, GZA, ODB, etc.
I think people don't understand what "The Breakdown" actually is. This show is what you see in newspaper as opinion pieces. Every host has his own take, opinions and ideas and I love the way that it's been approached. Please continue with this because it's what really got me to this channel.
For real tho J Cole handled that in the realest way like a boss. He dropped vicious bangers but didn't even respond in a battle-rivarly kind of way. Because he knew it be mad corny if he came back at lil pump like come on. So he just gently killed him like an uncle or older brother would.
@@clv735 if watched this video you'd see that this is an update on Murs' video. Kennedy is saying that the state of the rap game has changed in the last two years
Kanye was the original middle child, he’s always worked with new artists, from Kudi, pain and weezy to Travis Scott, Uzi, Lil pump and even 69, while being a protege of Jigga himself.
Working with Pump & 69 are bad examples, those guys literally openly admit to purposely making bad music as a joke, Kanye getting behind them just to stay popular with kids isn't a good look. He USE to bridge the gap between mainstream & the alternative/underground, conscious "backpack rap" scene. Kanye boosted guys like Lupe Fiasco, Tslub Kweli, Common and Mos Def while also working with mainstream giants. So yea, he USE too help, but co-signing lil pump ain't it
@@nonicknamethethird2132 Im aware of all the artists Ye has put on, I was only pointing out that 69 & Lil Pump are garbage, so he never should've cosigned them
I’ve been saying this since I turned 30. One of the reasons I fell in love with hip hop as a ten year old in Nigeria is that it’s one of the few genres where there’s a lane for whatever kind of hip hop you want. I love Mobb Deep, Nas and Gangstarr. But I also love the YBN crew, 21 Savage and Cardi B.
Just to give you a perspective: I was born in 1996 in Russia, so am from the same generation as Lonzo Ball, but I would never ever in my life put Migos or Future over Pac. If it was up to me it would be Em, 2Pac, Snoop, DMX and Kanye. And I left a lot of greats out and some of my personal favorites too. And to put even more perspective I didn’t even have an opportunity to buy the CDs or online music till I was like 16-18 years old and I still like old school rap more than the new generation even though there are some great rising stars in the game.
Lil Wayne had lyrics. The new heads just didn't know there were metaphors, punchlines and wordplays in them so they used that sound and flow with repeating lyrics.
I was born in 1989. My favourite rapper is J.Cole, (because he's around my age, his music feel familiar/closer to relate to) So glad to be born on this generation, to grow up with Nas, Jay Z, Eminem music is such a bless. Shout out to the 80's kids!
Wasn’t totally sold on Page Kennedy as a host over Murs till this episode. Homie dropping knowledge on everyone. Keep up the good work and look forward to seeing more breakdowns.
I first fell in love with hip hop the first time I heard "Electric Relaxation" from Tribe. The way that track is put together, the way Phife (RIP) and Tip laid their verses down on it, it was magic to me. I'm 32 years old. So I started with the "golden era" of rap... listening to Pharcyde, The Roots, Pac, BIG, Big Pun, Big L (RIP), Jay, Fab, Three Six, Dipset, Redman, Wu, Mobb, Outkast... the list goes on. I'm not a fan of mumble rap. However, I'm a huge fan of music in general, so I like most of the production on these newer songs. So I'm glad there are rappers like Kendrick, Logic, Cole, Tyler, etc. who can kick a flow over some old Dilla then turn around and lay waste to a track Uzi or Desiigner would hop on.The "middle child" is definitely bridging the gap in rap today, but there is also a LOT of Hip-Hop out there today, so just find your flavor and go with it. This has always been the most diverse genre in music, so there's something out there you'll like, I guarantee it.
as a Canadian I cannot stand Drake I don't like anything to do with Drake I don't like his music to me there's so many other artist new and older that are way better than I personally think my own opinion Drake's overrated cuz when you compare him to like Eazy-E ice cube Tupac biggie and there's quite a few other artists that are way better than drake
I honestly never felt like 21 Savage was a mumble rapper, his bars used to be quite weak at times but know i feel like he has matured and really masterd his craft.
I felt this video. Well spoken and well crafted. I'm from '95 and when I started to listen to rap it was just some songs here and there (Jay-Z, Eminem, Outkast, 50 Cent, The Game) but at that point I couldn't really call myself a fan of Hiphop, I just liked Hiphop music. Then around High School I started to listen to Drake, J. Cole and so on and I really started to take interest into the craft and the music way more than before. So I by seeing videos on youtube, documentaries on Hiphop and just listening to the old stuff it really opened up my mind and made me look differently to Rap as a whole. It also made me appreciate old skool stuff way more than I did before. I always respected the OG's because they paved the way for everybody trying to rap right now and that alone needs some respect. So I hope the gap will close between the old heads and the youngin's, because even though you don't like something you can still respect it.
The thing I love about hip-hop/rap is how diverse it is I really only got into it a bit over a year and a half ago but already I got a rap playlist over 700 songs long that's diverse as hell and got playlists for different vibes, subgenre, and rappers and associated acts I always had a bit of distance between me and two when I was young and now I'm finding myself eagerly learning more and more about it, and I'm finding more and more to fuck wi th
I think Cole is excellent at bridging the gap between old school and new school generations. I'm really not a fan of 95% of rap after 2006 but I always acknowledge skillz where ever I see them. But as an artist myself, I was inspired by the same legendary MCs who inspired Cole✌🏾🎤🎧🔥
As an Old Head My Self, and a Product of the 80's & 90's Hip Hop & Rap Game, This young entertainers need to do like the Boxers, Basketball, Baseball & other Athletes do, study their progenitors in the game know the people that pave the way with their struggle to make it easy for them, acknowledge them and keep on going.
One of thee best videos y'all have done. Its positive and its bringing the whole community together. The way y'all explained it was clear and positive. and it does make sense because me being from 92 I can relate to both, I grew up with Em, and biggie, I didn't know other rappers/groups but y'all covered that its okay to not know some of these groups and that's what makes us who we are. We are influenced by our environment and y'all covered that. on another note, Page is funny and it made the video more entertaining. just be more natural, yes, its a script that you are reading but either learn the content and say it in your own words, because thats way better, or just get more comfortable. thank you!
Bro I feel this. I was born in 2001 and my dad raised me in LA on Dre, Snoop, Tupac, and Ice Cube. I had to find other Avenues to listen to east coast. I didn't know who biggie was till 4th grade, and now he's number 1 on my list. But, along with J Cole and Kendrick, I also listen to rappers like 21 Savage, Lil Uzi, Juice WRLD, Ski Mask, and Travis. There are other good rappers out there talking about other, more fun shit, and it's good even tho their music isn't the hustle of the hood. Its all about perspective.
I was born in 91 so I’m not to old for the new music and I’m not to young for the old music, I’m in that sweet spot So I understand the generation that were born in the late 90s early 2000s wouldn’t know too much about the older generation of rap(Tupac, biggie, Big L etc)But we live in a time when you can search any type of music, so how is it that these mumble rappers making money from a genre and don’t know who contributed to it, and to make it worse they disrespect the legends
to bridge thsse mumble rapple need to learn about the game they are in and respect their elders they have paved the way. they have to remember they will soon become older and is going to want respect
Obviously not all younger kids grew up on mumble rap. My parents made me listen to old music like Stevie Wonder and Donna Summers. When I was around 10, I listened to Eminem and some pop music. Now in my late teens, I listen to Cole, Kendrick, Pac, Nas, Nip, but also people like Polo G, and still have a respect for old music. It’s just what you put yourself into, I chose to listen to Illmatic over Luv is Rage, and I don’t regret it.
I appreciate these conversations very much and learn a lot from them but my only concern is why are female rappers not included in this conversation? There are several female rappers who blew up alongside these OG's that you're talking about and demanding respect for. There are also several female rappers who are at the top of THE game amidst this current mumble rap phase in hip hop. Mc Lyte, Queen Latifah, Lil Kim, Eve, Nicki Minaj, Cardi B etc. All these women have made significant contributions to hip hop during the OG, middle child and mumble rap eras. Where is their representation, especially in crucial conversations such as this one? Just a thought...
There was a whole Breakdown before this one about "Women in Hip Hop", their legacy & the current come-back women are having on the mainstream and underground levels, you should check it if you haven't
This is why I listen to J Cole older stuff 🙄I'm too hooked on the old school music that I barely listen to new ones. There's a dude name Jay Critch and his one of the few.
Yesssss!!!! Page Kennedy!!!! Awesome breakdown, great shit, Haven't seen you since blue mountain state, but just like how you were a great actor your super charasmatic, def enjoyed this breakdown, please give us more of Page Kennedy's breakdowns!!!!
Man as i saw a video from this channel ive been watching 11 videos more. Great channel keep doing it. Im 15 and i live in iran u know how hard it is to find all the songs here. But man i hate mumble i cant stand listening to it and i do every thing to listen to oldskool
The breakdown that he gave on J Cole's response to the Lil Pump diss was spot on. When 1985 first came out, people were trying to say it was a "diss" back at the new generation, when it clearly wasn't. It was an elder taking the new generation under his wing, big bro style.
Hey page whatsup im jos form mexico and I just want to say your straight barz shit was dope af hope you give us more of that content, cool to hear you talk anyway
This was your best video Page, your growing on me man you be having me rolling sometimes even tho sometimes I think you reach with your comedy at times. But even so keep doing a great job. 3 for 3 on hosts hiphopdx
Great List, I was never got into Nas or Biggie. Here's my Top 5 and im from '94 1. Tupac 2. Em 3. Jay-Z 4. Lil Wayne 5. T.I. By many standards, T.I. isn't Top 5 but was the Main rappper i grew up on. He still has mad flow and great lyrics but is underrated by today standards.
To me, it all started with Ice-T versus Soulja Boy. As much as I agreed with Ice-T’s sentiments, it’s not about what you say, it’s all in how you say it. We can help the younger generation see what their limited experiences haven’t allowed them to see, yet and they can teach us how things have changed. J. Cole handled the Lil’ Pump situation beautifully.
I 100% agree that it's always the responsibility of the elders to reach out FIRST. That's just logic. Those that have the life experience and wisdom to pass on knowledge are supposed to counsel those who are still learning.
I was born in 2000, never really knew anything about old school rap untill I watched ''straight outta compton''. I loved that movie so much that I started to listen to all these songs from the 90s. Started with biggie , pac, dre, snoop etc and found more and more artists. I really like that version of rap more than the mumble rap from today, but I also think that there are really good rappers today. For example Joyner Lucas. I definitely think that every rap fan should watch this video!
This is what it's all about, there are countless great rappers in every generation. Joyner isn't the only good newer lyricist though, I recommend JID, YBN Cordae, Saba and Noname. Also, (from the Middle child generation, i.e millenials), I recommend Big KRIT, Wale & Lupe Fiasco. And of course, as the videos says, Cole & Kendrick are the reigning Kings for a reason, so cop thier whole catalogue if you haven't lol
Make sense I didn't listen to rap until early 2000s but respect has to be given to those how started because w out a start it will be hard for the future, do hope more lyricist be around with new views to spotlight so issues can be solve but also I like me something for the club.
At the end of the day we just have to accept change. There are still new people who make good music like a J. Cole and YBN Cordae (album is awesome). Just choose who you like and left them do what they wanna do
I am 12 years old and thanks god I have a big brother that thought me what the good rap is ( 2pac, BIG, Ice cube, N.W.A, Snoop,Dr.dre, Ll coolJ, the grandmasters, DMX, 50cent and so many others lyrical rappers 2020 rappers (logic, J.cole, the one that makes the album DAMM, )
I grew up listening to mumble rap, and I loved it and I understand that oldheads might hate mumble rap because it's not what they grew up on, but from what I seen them old niggas started it and the new gen rappers clapped back, respect is reciprocal,if you don't want to be disrespected give people respect.
Man I was born in 99 and my top 10 is wayne lord infamous jeezy soulja slim juvenile scarface biggie Rocky kinpin skinnypimp ect also were the three 6 video I've been waitin since Justin hunt and murs
Good topic. I myself hitting 50. I still listen to a lot of new stuff. Not the mumble but there are a lot of dope new people out. YBN cordae when he made his song "old niggas" in response to j Cole diss of Lil pump was a mature response about being young. It's just that as older heads we busy and in true fashion. Usually the older you get. The more conservative you get
It’s weird being a Gen z kid and seeing millennials and late Gen x-ers talk about the music divide between them cause I think the younger generation as in current teenagers are seeing a weird shift towards a middle ground. Like artists like Jid and Cole and Kendrick have been these lyrical voices and they’ve inspired a blending between older lyrical styles and new beats and topics. The middle children who’ve been making this music are inspiring the next middle children. Hip hop ultimately always has a place for those who feel left out if they’re willing to look for it.
I was born '93 n J Coles middle child hit home from the start.
My hiphop idols dont include any mumble rappers, I was brought up around Em controversy, Jay, Fat Joe, Busta Bust, Twister and Biggie and Tupacs death.
My specific generation is the JIDs, the Earthgangs, the tokens, and a lot of youtube rappers.
The problem with the millenials (mumble rappers) is culturally hiphop is totally different to how older heads will feel it. To me I see it as a different genre and it helps me appreciate it.
ANY MILENIALS READING THIS
Respect is a 2way road, respect what your idols respected, if hiphop is your profession learn your history its your job to help bridge the gap of understanding as just much as anyone else
most of the mumble rappers are NOT millennials
You are a millenial
@@juanpabloalvarengalopez3127 Seems like people think millennials are just people younger than them. Currently milliennials are people born between 1981 and 1996. But i think he just means gen Z.
Juan Pi Alvarenga if thats all you got from what I said you are 100% part of the problem. Dont try put me in the box when your the square, if u want to comment come at the right angle.
@@Asherrager A Millennial is a persone born between 1981 and the 2000, Nowadays it's a term used to describe people born after the 2000. That said most mumble rappers are between the ages of 15 (maybe even younger) to 35, therefore by both definitions all mumble rappers are Millennials.
I really wish DX would stick to content like this. I'm at the last of my rope here, I'm sick of scrolling past 5 videos a day about what Tekashi 69 and/or 50 Cent have said recently. I'm about to unsubscribe.
I swear i was gonna unsub with all that twitter bs
This prolly gonna move to a different channel eventually and hip hop dx just gonna become "news"
Ok goodbye
Complex channel is horrible for that bullshit
oedipa maas they should be rapdx not hiphopdx
Just made me realize how big of a record J Cole’s Middle Child is to hip hop & rap music in general.
J Cole's verse on the new Gang Starr song is incredible
Daniel Still FACTS
BIG FACTS
Gingaichi u listen to do school at all?
It was an okay verse. Not amazing but not trash.
Every host gonna rock their own personality. I dig this dude and the other two all in each their own ways.
exactly
Plus Justin is still going his own version of the Breakdown
MURS is on tour and making music, streaming games, and will probably be back doing his own like Justin
Digging the whole middle child analogy. It's good to see these rappers bridging the Gap
rtswift agreed man 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Cute Little Suzie Not you again
Cute Little Suzie Did you even watch the video?
Cute Little Suzie new rap I'd mysognistic and unlyrical (most not all). There are some good rappers like RA THE Rugged Man, Kendrick, Cole, Joey, (gatekeepers of flow, they are Extensions of instinctual soul), Denzel Curry, etc.
Old rap was consistently incredibly lyrical, fun, and actually required skill and talent. Also old rap had more topics to rap about and better beats. Tribe called quest, wu tang clan (who's lyrics still haven't been fully deciphered!), MC Ren, Method Man, Jay Z, Insoectah Deck, Raekwon the chef, U God, Tupac, Nas, Biggie , AZ, Big Pun, Killah Priest, Ghostface Killah, RZA, GZA, ODB, etc.
@@seekerundue I like old school more so I agree
I think people don't understand what "The Breakdown" actually is. This show is what you see in newspaper as opinion pieces. Every host has his own take, opinions and ideas and I love the way that it's been approached. Please continue with this because it's what really got me to this channel.
For real tho J Cole handled that in the realest way like a boss. He dropped vicious bangers but didn't even respond in a battle-rivarly kind of way. Because he knew it be mad corny if he came back at lil pump like come on. So he just gently killed him like an uncle or older brother would.
Something Eminem’s old ass needs to learn
@@kurry8837 hell yea
@@kurry8837 You just said it em is not from j coles era it would make sense he would respond more traditionally than I cole
Kohontsi Karakhwa hell nah
Kurry *Airhead* *alert*
"Ooh, I love my wi-ife, ooh, I love my wi-ife, AAH" Dead asf 💀
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how do you like Hell my friend? 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
😂😂 😂thank you crying tears. love chance though
Feels like it has been a while since y'all did one of these, lol.
Glad to see a breakdown 👌🏿
This is well over a year old
Christian V this was posted three hours ago bro
I agree it’s nice to see another breakdown finally 💎
@@dukebluedevils6664 lol wait.. they had page Kennedy do the same video murs already did???
Title and all???
@@clv735 if watched this video you'd see that this is an update on Murs' video. Kennedy is saying that the state of the rap game has changed in the last two years
Kanye was the original middle child, he’s always worked with new artists, from Kudi, pain and weezy to Travis Scott, Uzi, Lil pump and even 69, while being a protege of Jigga himself.
Working with Pump & 69 are bad examples, those guys literally openly admit to purposely making bad music as a joke, Kanye getting behind them just to stay popular with kids isn't a good look. He USE to bridge the gap between mainstream & the alternative/underground, conscious "backpack rap" scene. Kanye boosted guys like Lupe Fiasco, Tslub Kweli, Common and Mos Def while also working with mainstream giants. So yea, he USE too help, but co-signing lil pump ain't it
PrimeraEspadaStark Kanye put on Big Sean, Helped Chance the Rapper, Hired Travis Scott, Remixed Chief Keef song
@@nonicknamethethird2132 Im aware of all the artists Ye has put on, I was only pointing out that 69 & Lil Pump are garbage, so he never should've cosigned them
Correctomundo. Kanye is the real generation gap.
@Phantom Freeze 🧢
This was a great breakdown.
Btw.... Who did that Chance I love my wife parody 😂😂😂
Parody? Pretty sure that was just from the actual album
@@ChaseVevo2 ayo 😂😂😂😭
@@ChaseVevo2 LMAO
Esteban Winsmore!! He trolls people on online "2nd Life" games and its hilarious
"you don't have to bump this,but please respect it"-2pac💯 Rip Pac
Exactly
He was talking to the gangsta rap critics like C. Delores Tucker, Calvin Butts, and Dionne Warwick, who were working to ban it at the time.
This host might work, still no replacement for the original but it’s a good start.
Murs wasn't the original
Don’t let this distract you from Eminem and coles sneak disses.
one name It was Justin Hunte then Murs.
Pretty sure murs will be back hes just on tour right now he wasn't the original but my favorite to date
one name I was referring to Justin
I’ve been saying this since I turned 30. One of the reasons I fell in love with hip hop as a ten year old in Nigeria is that it’s one of the few genres where there’s a lane for whatever kind of hip hop you want. I love Mobb Deep, Nas and Gangstarr. But I also love the YBN crew, 21 Savage and Cardi B.
Ayodele Omos Same here. Didn’t start listening to rap til I left Nigeria but I love it ever since I came to the US
Just to give you a perspective: I was born in 1996 in Russia, so am from the same generation as Lonzo Ball, but I would never ever in my life put Migos or Future over Pac. If it was up to me it would be Em, 2Pac, Snoop, DMX and Kanye. And I left a lot of greats out and some of my personal favorites too. And to put even more perspective I didn’t even have an opportunity to buy the CDs or online music till I was like 16-18 years old and I still like old school rap more than the new generation even though there are some great rising stars in the game.
Being 16-18 in house party or a school lunch table in las Angeles is a world different just saying
Page is really coming into his own on this, the first couple of videos were hard to watch but this was really good.
I dont comment very often, but this video was really well done, still miss Murs
He's doing it by reaching out to the potential new heads & fueling their sound with flows & lyrical content
Lil Wayne had lyrics. The new heads just didn't know there were metaphors, punchlines and wordplays in them so they used that sound and flow with repeating lyrics.
Maaaan those "Chance" bars had me crying! I was not expecting that...
Damn I skipped 20 seconds and I rly thought Murs was back
-cries-
King Benny Garcia what happened to Murs?
@@georgecantu1800 idk he was doing an interview the other day about how he got started or something
@@KingBenny he on tour I think
DADDY CANTU touring, he’s in Canada tomorrow.
“This is boom bap, mixed with new raps” - A$AP Rocky
What's interesting about Rocky is that he was named after Rakim, but his style is influenced by Southern rappers like UGK and 8 Ball & MJG.
I was born in 1989 and I really feel this “middle child” theory.
I was born in 1989.
My favourite rapper is J.Cole, (because he's around my age, his music feel familiar/closer to relate to)
So glad to be born on this generation, to grow up with Nas, Jay Z, Eminem music is such a bless.
Shout out to the 80's kids!
You might as well be a 90s baby
Born in 1999 and cole is my favorite
Wasn’t totally sold on Page Kennedy as a host over Murs till this episode. Homie dropping knowledge on everyone. Keep up the good work and look forward to seeing more breakdowns.
Lane McCulloch Because someone wrote it. He’s reading off a prompter.
Your point of view helps make sense about alot more then a rap perspective! This point of view fits in alot of different topic! great video!
Noticed you put Proof up their with PAC, NWA, and Em. Much respect ✊
Deven Leffler proof was super underrated 💎💎
Ula-G Agreed. Kurt Cobain made me cry the first time I heard it
I first fell in love with hip hop the first time I heard "Electric Relaxation" from Tribe. The way that track is put together, the way Phife (RIP) and Tip laid their verses down on it, it was magic to me.
I'm 32 years old. So I started with the "golden era" of rap... listening to Pharcyde, The Roots, Pac, BIG, Big Pun, Big L (RIP), Jay, Fab, Three Six, Dipset, Redman, Wu, Mobb, Outkast... the list goes on.
I'm not a fan of mumble rap. However, I'm a huge fan of music in general, so I like most of the production on these newer songs. So I'm glad there are rappers like Kendrick, Logic, Cole, Tyler, etc. who can kick a flow over some old Dilla then turn around and lay waste to a track Uzi or Desiigner would hop on.The "middle child" is definitely bridging the gap in rap today, but there is also a LOT of Hip-Hop out there today, so just find your flavor and go with it. This has always been the most diverse genre in music, so there's something out there you'll like, I guarantee it.
I've been saying for the longest finally someone who understands
as a Canadian I cannot stand Drake I don't like anything to do with Drake I don't like his music to me there's so many other artist new and older that are way better than I personally think my own opinion Drake's overrated cuz when you compare him to like Eazy-E ice cube Tupac biggie and there's quite a few other artists that are way better than drake
I honestly never felt like 21 Savage was a mumble rapper, his bars used to be quite weak at times but know i feel like he has matured and really masterd his craft.
About time The Breakdown came back🔥🔥💯. Been awhile
I felt this video. Well spoken and well crafted. I'm from '95 and when I started to listen to rap it was just some songs here and there (Jay-Z, Eminem, Outkast, 50 Cent, The Game) but at that point I couldn't really call myself a fan of Hiphop, I just liked Hiphop music. Then around High School I started to listen to Drake, J. Cole and so on and I really started to take interest into the craft and the music way more than before. So I by seeing videos on youtube, documentaries on Hiphop and just listening to the old stuff it really opened up my mind and made me look differently to Rap as a whole. It also made me appreciate old skool stuff way more than I did before. I always respected the OG's because they paved the way for everybody trying to rap right now and that alone needs some respect.
So I hope the gap will close between the old heads and the youngin's, because even though you don't like something you can still respect it.
The thing I love about hip-hop/rap is how diverse it is
I really only got into it a bit over a year and a half ago but already I got a rap playlist over 700 songs long that's diverse as hell and got playlists for different vibes, subgenre, and rappers and associated acts
I always had a bit of distance between me and two when I was young and now I'm finding myself eagerly learning more and more about it, and I'm finding more and more to fuck wi th
I think Cole is excellent at bridging the gap between old school and new school generations. I'm really not a fan of 95% of rap after 2006 but I always acknowledge skillz where ever I see them. But as an artist myself, I was inspired by the same legendary MCs who inspired Cole✌🏾🎤🎧🔥
King Ramesez your kidding right? 🤣🤣
You kinda cringe as a person
As an Old Head My Self, and a Product of the 80's & 90's Hip Hop & Rap Game, This young entertainers need to do like the Boxers, Basketball, Baseball & other Athletes do, study their progenitors in the game know the people that pave the way with their struggle to make it easy for them, acknowledge them and keep on going.
One of thee best videos y'all have done. Its positive and its bringing the whole community together. The way y'all explained it was clear and positive. and it does make sense because me being from 92 I can relate to both, I grew up with Em, and biggie, I didn't know other rappers/groups but y'all covered that its okay to not know some of these groups and that's what makes us who we are. We are influenced by our environment and y'all covered that. on another note, Page is funny and it made the video more entertaining. just be more natural, yes, its a script that you are reading but either learn the content and say it in your own words, because thats way better, or just get more comfortable. thank you!
I love this dudes style, love your videos bro
Yo, Page! I remembered bangin’ my first girl to Tupac’s “I Get Around”.
Bro I feel this. I was born in 2001 and my dad raised me in LA on Dre, Snoop, Tupac, and Ice Cube. I had to find other Avenues to listen to east coast. I didn't know who biggie was till 4th grade, and now he's number 1 on my list. But, along with J Cole and Kendrick, I also listen to rappers like 21 Savage, Lil Uzi, Juice WRLD, Ski Mask, and Travis. There are other good rappers out there talking about other, more fun shit, and it's good even tho their music isn't the hustle of the hood. Its all about perspective.
Good viewpoint, thank you!
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I was born in 91 so I’m not to old for the new music and I’m not to young for the old music, I’m in that sweet spot
So I understand the generation that were born in the late 90s early 2000s wouldn’t know too much about the older generation of rap(Tupac, biggie, Big L etc)But we live in a time when you can search any type of music, so how is it that these mumble rappers making money from a genre and don’t know who contributed to it, and to make it worse they disrespect the legends
HiphopDX Great as always! Keep going 👍
Dope Video bro really enjoyed
to bridge thsse mumble rapple need to learn about the game they are in and respect their elders they have paved the way. they have to remember they will soon become older and is going to want respect
Obviously not all younger kids grew up on mumble rap. My parents made me listen to old music like Stevie Wonder and Donna Summers. When I was around 10, I listened to Eminem and some pop music. Now in my late teens, I listen to Cole, Kendrick, Pac, Nas, Nip, but also people like Polo G, and still have a respect for old music. It’s just what you put yourself into, I chose to listen to Illmatic over Luv is Rage, and I don’t regret it.
I appreciate these conversations very much and learn a lot from them but my only concern is why are female rappers not included in this conversation? There are several female rappers who blew up alongside these OG's that you're talking about and demanding respect for. There are also several female rappers who are at the top of THE game amidst this current mumble rap phase in hip hop. Mc Lyte, Queen Latifah, Lil Kim, Eve, Nicki Minaj, Cardi B etc. All these women have made significant contributions to hip hop during the OG, middle child and mumble rap eras. Where is their representation, especially in crucial conversations such as this one? Just a thought...
There was a whole Breakdown before this one about "Women in Hip Hop", their legacy & the current come-back women are having on the mainstream and underground levels, you should check it if you haven't
@@PrimeraEspadaStark I will. Thanks
This is why I listen to J Cole older stuff 🙄I'm too hooked on the old school music that I barely listen to new ones. There's a dude name Jay Critch and his one of the few.
Hip hop Dx should breakdown international rappers. South African in particular
great iDEA
Definitely gonna share this with my pops. He's an open minded old head but we talk about shit like this all the time.
Great video. I really enjoyed seeing your perspective and how it has grown. I appreciate your open mind.
This was dope. I thought the same way, but you did a great job describing it for those who cant relate.
I understand and liked this segment.I do believe that the gap is still big though but as long as the respect is there on both sides it wont last long.
Respect to J.Cole and Kendrick!! My Generation, Y. 1980s babies, 90s kids. Yngz
Yesssss!!!! Page Kennedy!!!! Awesome breakdown, great shit,
Haven't seen you since blue mountain state, but just like how you were a great actor your super charasmatic, def enjoyed this breakdown, please give us more of Page Kennedy's breakdowns!!!!
Man as i saw a video from this channel ive been watching 11 videos more. Great channel keep doing it.
Im 15 and i live in iran u know how hard it is to find all the songs here. But man i hate mumble i cant stand listening to it and i do every thing to listen to oldskool
That Chance parody took me out 😂😂
This is important, keep this talk up
Omg Page your awesome, great points of view and a fantastic way of putting it across. 🙂
And Cole just hopped onto Family and loyalty by DJ Premier and the late Guru, AND KILLED IT
The breakdown that he gave on J Cole's response to the Lil Pump diss was spot on. When 1985 first came out, people were trying to say it was a "diss" back at the new generation, when it clearly wasn't. It was an elder taking the new generation under his wing, big bro style.
Hey page whatsup im jos form mexico and I just want to say your straight barz shit was dope af hope you give us more of that content, cool to hear you talk anyway
I aint never thought about about it like that fam, now i understand am gon make better music from now on
This was your best video Page, your growing on me man you be having me rolling sometimes even tho sometimes I think you reach with your comedy at times. But even so keep doing a great job. 3 for 3 on hosts hiphopdx
I agree. Everyone should be respected for what they can do
Regardless of what you like or don't like in hip hop quality in music will always stand out 💯💯
I was born in ‘05. This is my top 5 all time:
1a. Tupac
1b. Biggie
3. Eminem
4. Nas
5. Jay Z
Great List, I was never got into Nas or Biggie.
Here's my Top 5 and im from '94
1. Tupac
2. Em
3. Jay-Z
4. Lil Wayne
5. T.I.
By many standards, T.I. isn't Top 5 but was the Main rappper i grew up on. He still has mad flow and great lyrics but is underrated by today standards.
Yet another woke 10 year old lmao
"woke"
2002- Denzel Curry, JID, Ski Mask, Joyner Lucas, YBN Cordae
On point my dude
I thought the first few minutes were cringe as hell, but it got much better as the vid went on. Good breakdown.
To me, it all started with Ice-T versus Soulja Boy. As much as I agreed with Ice-T’s sentiments, it’s not about what you say, it’s all in how you say it. We can help the younger generation see what their limited experiences haven’t allowed them to see, yet and they can teach us how things have changed. J. Cole handled the Lil’ Pump situation beautifully.
I 100% agree that it's always the responsibility of the elders to reach out FIRST. That's just logic. Those that have the life experience and wisdom to pass on knowledge are supposed to counsel those who are still learning.
Spread love.
Y’all scared to admit this guy’s fire cause he’s weird 😂
lmao that's literally all it is.
Weird makes the world go round. Our reality would super trash without the great weirdos that push our cultures forward.
Who’s your top 5?
Dylan dylan dylan dylan dylan
1. Kendrick Lamar
2. 2pac (R.I.P.)
3. Nas
4. Ice Cube
5. Guru (R.I.P.)
Kendrick Lamar
biggie Smalls
Ice cube
Andre 3000
Eminem
1. J. Cole
2. Biggie
3. Eminem
4. Big L
5. Doom
Not The Guy You Want To Know aye someone recognizes Doom has bars for once good
RIP fallen middle child Nipsey
Good channel. Great find. I like the og rap nerd vibe.
That was a pretty cool outlook on the whole rap game. I’m an ol head but I can appreciate some new ish
I was born in 2000, never really knew anything about old school rap untill I watched ''straight outta compton''. I loved that movie so much that I started to listen to all these songs from the 90s. Started with biggie , pac, dre, snoop etc and found more and more artists. I really like that version of rap more than the mumble rap from today, but I also think that there are really good rappers today. For example Joyner Lucas. I definitely think that every rap fan should watch this video!
This is what it's all about, there are countless great rappers in every generation. Joyner isn't the only good newer lyricist though, I recommend JID, YBN Cordae, Saba and Noname. Also, (from the Middle child generation, i.e millenials), I recommend Big KRIT, Wale & Lupe Fiasco. And of course, as the videos says, Cole & Kendrick are the reigning Kings for a reason, so cop thier whole catalogue if you haven't lol
he said "bars"...you made me spit all over my screen.
For real tho rip x best of our generation
Make sense I didn't listen to rap until early 2000s but respect has to be given to those how started because w out a start it will be hard for the future, do hope more lyricist be around with new views to spotlight so issues can be solve but also I like me something for the club.
"i love my wiiife....aahh!!!!🤣🤣
VERY VERRY well said. Simply amazing
At the end of the day we just have to accept change. There are still new people who make good music like a J. Cole and YBN Cordae (album is awesome). Just choose who you like and left them do what they wanna do
ooooh 1:33 that is very dope. I love the old shool beat
I am 12 years old and thanks god I have a big brother that thought me what the good rap is ( 2pac, BIG, Ice cube, N.W.A, Snoop,Dr.dre, Ll coolJ, the grandmasters, DMX, 50cent and so many others lyrical rappers 2020 rappers (logic, J.cole, the one that makes the album DAMM, )
His name is Kendrick Lamar btw👍🏻
I love old school like Teddy, AL, Jimi Hendrix etc and I'm 39
I grew up listening to mumble rap, and I loved it and I understand that oldheads might hate mumble rap because it's not what they grew up on, but from what I seen them old niggas started it and the new gen rappers clapped back, respect is reciprocal,if you don't want to be disrespected give people respect.
totally gap getting smaller.. liked this vid.. sweet and true stuff..
I was hard on Page before but I'm actually quite fond of him now. Good job.
I'm 15 years old and my top 5 is:(in no particular order)
•NF
•Hopsin
•Joyner Lucas
•Eminem
•Dababy
It happens over and over and ALL OVER. Every genre has gone through this.
Man I was born in 99 and my top 10 is wayne lord infamous jeezy soulja slim juvenile scarface biggie Rocky kinpin skinnypimp ect also were the three 6 video I've been waitin since Justin hunt and murs
God damn, this video is lit 🔥
Good topic. I myself hitting 50. I still listen to a lot of new stuff. Not the mumble but there are a lot of dope new people out. YBN cordae when he made his song "old niggas" in response to j Cole diss of Lil pump was a mature response about being young. It's just that as older heads we busy and in true fashion. Usually the older you get. The more conservative you get
you are hilarious and wise at the same time! Respect!
It’s weird being a Gen z kid and seeing millennials and late Gen x-ers talk about the music divide between them cause I think the younger generation as in current teenagers are seeing a weird shift towards a middle ground. Like artists like Jid and Cole and Kendrick have been these lyrical voices and they’ve inspired a blending between older lyrical styles and new beats and topics. The middle children who’ve been making this music are inspiring the next middle children. Hip hop ultimately always has a place for those who feel left out if they’re willing to look for it.
Well worded my brothea