@Anamorphic on a Budget this is a much needed review as there are not many out there, so thanks for making it this was a really helpful and informative review ( I never would’ve thought these would have pincushion distortion)
I would like to see an in-depth discussion about the pros & cons of using Sirui's full-frame anamorphic lenses and their APS-C lenses on a full-frame camera like the Sony A7IV. The price is significantly different, but both "work," so I feel like it warrants a discussion, and you would be a great person to head said discussion!
These are pretty cool, I think I will be saving for the new Atlas Mercury lenses though. Similar squeeze and coverage, but with faster apertures and PL mount.
Sirui is absolutely SMOKING the budget anamorphic lens game right now! I shoot pretty much all my content with Sirui lenses! Thank you for this video. The King of Anamorphic hath spoken!
Great video as always Tito! I personally don't mind that it's only T2.9. That's a plenty fast aperture on full frame in my experience. Certainly would not complain if the aperture could go wider though.
In your 50mm review your reference how the Squeeze factor changes from 1.6 to 1.51 as you get to closer to 0.75 meters. That information was highly helpful. You didn't mention this information on the 35mm and 100mm. I would really love to know the numbers for the 75, 35, and 100mm -- if the squeeze factor changes with them?
Some of the other reviews mention the numbers. I didn't have enough time to include that in the review - I'm in the middle of a move, so everything is a mess around here.
Another interesting and informative review... but I still have one question: what KIND OF ANAMORPHIC CONSTRUCTION is this lens? Middle-anamorphic?.. no front or back cylinder elements visible... and some anamorphic effects seem to be restrained... any guess?
Lots of options and lots of price points so it's a great time to experiment with anamorphic film making. There is still room for anamorfake. Nice review
I have a Leitz 35mm f3.5 with Leica thread mount and that lens almost has a large format look wide open. Absolutely gorgeous waterfall bokeh. So it’s not just that the 35mm is T2.9 or anamorphic but it’s also not been designed for maximum character.
Tito, use your influence to convince them making a barrel distortion version on this one, like there are barrel/pillow distortion, blue/green flare to choose, this 35mm has everything I want except that pillow distortion
For Sony users, there's a great app for Android and iPhone called Monitor+ that allows you to plug your phone into your camera and use it as a monitor! The paid version is $19 but it's cheaper than buying a separate on camera monitor, and a lot of phone screens are larger than 5" monitors! It does anamorphic desqueeze and you can load in Luts.
Also looking forward to the review of the adapter as there are many wild claims, both pro and con, about its supposed characteristics. Having said that I’ve already got one coming for my 50 and 75 as the lure of 2x squeeze is too good!
I picked up a used Siri 50mm T2.9 and have really enjoyed using it, it does have some shortcomings but it is definitely heading the right direction for me. Sirui was a really inexpensive way to try a native L mount anamorphic especially since I'm an L mount shooter and have other L mount cameras. I'll probably pick up the 35, 75 & 100 to make a set but when budget permits I'll go for a more cinematic looking set.Thanks!
First off, big fan of your channel, you inspired me to try anamorphic shooting and I'm loving it so far! Do you have a video about editing anamorphic footage after it's been desqueezed (1.6x) in Premiere Pro? I'm new to anamorphic shooting and my editing workflow, such as adding transitions and digital zooms, are a pain because of the manually adjusted heights and widths of the footage, I've ried using adjustment layers but even those have their limitations. Hope to hear back from you soon!
I don't know about the latest versions of lightroom, but changing an image's dimensions (stretch/squeeze) was very limited until a couple years back. :(
Great video as always Tito! have you got any videos on using matte-box diopters? I've seen some specifically from lindseyoptics that seem like they could be good, but am unsure if you have to keep the lens [x] distance from the diopter or any other drawbacks.
Finally a lens with distortion, glad to see this becoming an option once again. Wes Anderson lens choice has ruined my anamorphic preferences to be only of the expensive type (see the widest Elite anamorphic from share grid Test for example).
I've been using the S1H for almost two years now with zero complaints. But I also heard lots of good things brought to the Fp in a firmware update. Just didn't have the time/chance to explore it.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thanks for the response! It’s been tough finding any comparisons since fp had the recent updates. The s1h seems like the obvious choice but the FP being able to recover so much in post with raw speaks to a beginner film maker like me.
My biggest drawback is cDNG is really not a great format for a low-budget production. I can't afford that much storage space in exchange for uncompressed raw. :(
Hi an other great video. Just one question from a French filmmaker who is new in the anamorphic world. I’m also filming on a Lumix S1. What’s the point of getting the full frame Siriu line-up instead of the m4/3 with an adaptator m4/3 to L mount if the anamorphic mode on the S1 works on the apsc mode of the sensor. Because if I have understood the principle of anamorphic it works on an 4/3 ratio of sensor…. Or am I wrong ? THX a lot !!
The point is to not use the anamorphic mode, but the open gate mode, which gives you loads of extra recording area on the sensor - this area is covered by Sirui's full frame lenses, while the MFT/APS-C versions won't get it.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thx a lot. Meanwhile i take the time to reflex on this and watched your others video on Siriu Full frame lenses. Now my question is, as 4/3 is the original format for Classic anamorphic PL lenses. Is it better to invest in a GH6 with an 4/3 format open Gate or in a Full frame, I mean for specific anamorphic work ? Thx a lot !!
Do you have any info about new Sirui set coming out in 2023 with 2x squeeze natively? I think I will wait for this instead of buying these 1.6x. Anyway, great video, as always!😉
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Tom Antos mentioned it in the end of his Sirui video review on his YT channel. I thought maybe you know something more about it 🙂
Hi, love your channel. I am a Fuji Shooter (XH2S) and I have zero experience with anamorphic yet. I have seen some content creators with the combination Sony A7S3 and the Sirui 35mm. I like the look of it. Is there something I can buy to get simular results (1.6x squeeze factor) without selling my kidney to afford an anamorphic lens?
I am planning to buy sirui anamorphic lens set. But I can't decide Which mount should I buy. If I buy PL mount then I can use it with Sony E Mount cameras or Canon EF mount cameras with metabone adapter. Now my question is is there any back focus or vignette issue or any other issues in case of using adapter?
They don't come in PL mount, or EF, only mirrorless. Any mount you choose, you'll be locked to it. So if you have a Sony camera, E-mount is the only option.
...been looking. lotta Canon C70's out there... do you know of ANY Anamorphic lenses that will work with no hassle with the Canon C70 with EF Adaptor? Even 1 would be better than the none I have found. Also... if not that...what's next best option to get "the look"... thanks for your info...
Hello..was looking into anamorphic lenses to experiment with my photography..notice the name labels "Venus" and "Saturn" lenses?..what is the differences between them?..and what does the "1.25 x Anamorphic Adapter do? to the lens/image?..thank you
Hi Titto I adore your content. Also watch every video. I have an issue with my equipment. Currently use Caden diopter, Isco red star and Helios 40 and lumix s5. I believe I suffer from astigmatism because I can only focus an img with f4 minimum. Tested with other lenses such as Jupiter 9, Nikon Nikon 18d, and smc takumar 50 8. All these lenses do not suffer img quality loss but only Helios 40. Is the diameter of taking lens too wide or anamorphic lens or can it be Helios can not focus to infinity? Any advice? Thank you very much.
What happens if I shoot 4K/422/16:9 in my S1H with this FF lens? I know open gate is better but I really don't want to shoot in 6K/420. And do you think I better get the S35 lens to shoot in 4k/422 ?
@@AnamorphicOnABudget so is it better to wait for the Laowa S35 nanomorph lens to get better aspect ratio? Because S1H has S35 4K anamorphic mode with 422
As for the 4k 4:3, you'll get a 2.1:1 aspect ratio. I've gone for 2:1 aspect ratio a lot recently, so just a little crop there. On a 16:9 recording area, 1.5x or 1.33x lenses fare better if you don't want to crop anything out. I'm okay with cropping though. :)
I would like to know if you can help me. I am currently working on my 4 camera setup for streaming to OBS. I want it all to run anamorphic lenses. I have 2 full frame Sonys and 2 apsc Sonys. Im wondering should I just buy the full frame anamorphic set or 2 full frame and 2 apsc. What will give me the best cinematic image? Just wwant to order the right parts. Also I have a 28-70 gm so I was planning on buying that adaptor that will bring my Sony gm to anamorphic? Wondering if that will have my gm matching the other anamorphic full frame sets?
There's no electronics in the lens, so no motor to drive autofocus - that's the simplest explanation. There's a more complicated one about anamorphics, focusing and cameras AF detection.
C‘mon Sirui, please give us these with PL 😅 I’m so sad I can’t use these outside of renting a stills mount camera package for them. These belong on an Alexa.
Panavision is still the best for customization for large format coverage, lens flares are Bokeh and distortion. C series can’t be replicated, like having a vintage wine.
True but it’s like buying a Toyota vs a Ferrari. One thing people don’t take into account is also service and repair. Anamorphic requires a trained and experienced technician to maintain. It’s highly sensitive and cannot be repaired without proper equipment. Repair costs range from $150 to $200 per hour. You wind up spending more money in the long run for a look you might not be satisfied with and a lens you wished didn’t purchase for all the headaches associated with maintenance.
Thank you for a great review!
Your videos are always incredibly helpful in deciding which way to go with lens selecting. Thank you for all of the work you do!
I just received a Sirui 50mm today, Tito this is perfect timing. And thanks for everything you do!
@Anamorphic on a Budget this is a much needed review as there are not many out there, so thanks for making it this was a really helpful and informative review ( I never would’ve thought these would have pincushion distortion)
Just got my set in the mail today! Finally the 50 and 75 have a home in the case they included.
A really great set and a great review!
I would like to see an in-depth discussion about the pros & cons of using Sirui's full-frame anamorphic lenses and their APS-C lenses on a full-frame camera like the Sony A7IV. The price is significantly different, but both "work," so I feel like it warrants a discussion, and you would be a great person to head said discussion!
These are pretty cool, I think I will be saving for the new Atlas Mercury lenses though. Similar squeeze and coverage, but with faster apertures and PL mount.
Sirui is absolutely SMOKING the budget anamorphic lens game right now!
I shoot pretty much all my content with Sirui lenses!
Thank you for this video.
The King of Anamorphic hath spoken!
Great video as always Tito! I personally don't mind that it's only T2.9. That's a plenty fast aperture on full frame in my experience. Certainly would not complain if the aperture could go wider though.
In your 50mm review your reference how the Squeeze factor changes from 1.6 to 1.51 as you get to closer to 0.75 meters. That information was highly helpful. You didn't mention this information on the 35mm and 100mm. I would really love to know the numbers for the 75, 35, and 100mm -- if the squeeze factor changes with them?
Some of the other reviews mention the numbers. I didn't have enough time to include that in the review - I'm in the middle of a move, so everything is a mess around here.
Another interesting and informative review... but I still have one question: what KIND OF ANAMORPHIC CONSTRUCTION is this lens? Middle-anamorphic?.. no front or back cylinder elements visible... and some anamorphic effects seem to be restrained... any guess?
It's a front anamorphic. Anything that has the cylindrical glass before the entrance pupil is a front anamorphic.
Pin cushion is where its at. I want Sirui to make an 18mm or something that gives that wonky Close Encounters look.
Do you know any diopters with an 82mm filter thread that you recommend?
The cheap ones usually do the job! I have a set of Vivitars and I wouldn't expect these to be much different: www.amazon.ca/dp/B07XBY29KT
Lots of options and lots of price points so it's a great time to experiment with anamorphic film making. There is still room for anamorfake. Nice review
I have a Leitz 35mm f3.5 with Leica thread mount and that lens almost has a large format look wide open. Absolutely gorgeous waterfall bokeh. So it’s not just that the 35mm is T2.9 or anamorphic but it’s also not been designed for maximum character.
Excellent point here.
the video quality is 🔥
Tito, use your influence to convince them making a barrel distortion version on this one, like there are barrel/pillow distortion, blue/green flare to choose, this 35mm has everything I want except that pillow distortion
Hi Tito, great video. I have the Sirui 50mm T2.9 and thinking of just getting the 2x adapter instead of getting the 35mm. What do u think?
The 50mm will vignette with the adapter on full frame sensors, while the 35mm by itself won't. :)
I wonder if there’s an internal 1.6 desqueeze in the new Blackmagic cinéma camera 6k…
For Sony users, there's a great app for Android and iPhone called Monitor+ that allows you to plug your phone into your camera and use it as a monitor! The paid version is $19 but it's cheaper than buying a separate on camera monitor, and a lot of phone screens are larger than 5" monitors! It does anamorphic desqueeze and you can load in Luts.
Eagerly waiting on the 1.25x adapter video! Any hint as to when that'd be coming?
if it all works out, next week!
Also looking forward to the review of the adapter as there are many wild claims, both pro and con, about its supposed characteristics. Having said that I’ve already got one coming for my 50 and 75 as the lure of 2x squeeze is too good!
I picked up a used Siri 50mm T2.9 and have really enjoyed using it, it does have some shortcomings but it is definitely heading the right direction for me. Sirui was a really inexpensive way to try a native L mount anamorphic especially since I'm an L mount shooter and have other L mount cameras. I'll probably pick up the 35, 75 & 100 to make a set but when budget permits I'll go for a more cinematic looking set.Thanks!
Oh jeez, this is the soonest I've ever arrived at a video
What are you using for your kitchen setup? Great quality on products and yout videos always
Thank you! That was the Sirui 100mm on the S1H.
There is EF mount on this lens please?
love the cat!
theres actually a newer one coming soon
Thanks Tito 🔥 I would have loved to see some footage from the 1.25x adapter paired with some spherical lenses
That's coming soon!
Does this lens offer a constant squeeze ratio ? Thanks
No, they do not. The 35mm is mostly, the 100mm no so much.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget 👍
You think if I use the 35mm on a Fx30 I will loose too much of the character on the sides? it would be worth it?
hi there, Always great Tito. I was wondering if you would like to do a comparison with this 35 to the new saturn 35 . have a great day.
I don't have a Sony camera, and the Saturn only mounts on a few select bodies. :(
Why would you need a wider aperture? What for?
To get better subject/background separation, and more noticeable oval bokeh, to name two reasons.
First off, big fan of your channel, you inspired me to try anamorphic shooting and I'm loving it so far!
Do you have a video about editing anamorphic footage after it's been desqueezed (1.6x) in Premiere Pro?
I'm new to anamorphic shooting and my editing workflow, such as adding transitions and digital zooms, are a pain because of the manually adjusted heights and widths of the footage, I've ried using adjustment layers but even those have their limitations. Hope to hear back from you soon!
Use the Distort > Transform effect to easily do digital zooms and punch ins. :)
what professional diopters to you recommend? I'm seeing; Hoya 82mm HMC Close-Up Filter Set II, Includes +1, +2 and +4 Diopter Filters
I just made a video about them last week! ua-cam.com/video/pabqtqUdJaU/v-deo.html
One stupid question. Can you take photo and de-squeeze the raw image in lightroom ? Not just incase of this lense, but with any Anamorphic lense?
I don't know about the latest versions of lightroom, but changing an image's dimensions (stretch/squeeze) was very limited until a couple years back. :(
Thank you .
Great video as always Tito! have you got any videos on using matte-box diopters? I've seen some specifically from lindseyoptics that seem like they could be good, but am unsure if you have to keep the lens [x] distance from the diopter or any other drawbacks.
Would I still be able to achieve 2:4:1 with a canon R6 Mii shooting full frame at 35mm ? Thanks
Oh shit.
Perfect lenses.
Perfect shirt.
Perfect price.
Nikon Z and ... Leica mount?!!
... could it be :O
Finally a lens with distortion, glad to see this becoming an option once again. Wes Anderson lens choice has ruined my anamorphic preferences to be only of the expensive type (see the widest Elite anamorphic from share grid Test for example).
Which films did he shoot anamorphic in?
@@mcintosh.motors parts of the grand Budapest hotel for example
Would really love to hear your thoughts on the Sigma FP. I am on the fence between the s1h and the Sigma Fp.
I've been using the S1H for almost two years now with zero complaints. But I also heard lots of good things brought to the Fp in a firmware update. Just didn't have the time/chance to explore it.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thanks for the response! It’s been tough finding any comparisons since fp had the recent updates. The s1h seems like the obvious choice but the FP being able to recover so much in post with raw speaks to a beginner film maker like me.
My biggest drawback is cDNG is really not a great format for a low-budget production. I can't afford that much storage space in exchange for uncompressed raw. :(
Hi an other great video. Just one question from a French filmmaker who is new in the anamorphic world. I’m also filming on a Lumix S1. What’s the point of getting the full frame Siriu line-up instead of the m4/3 with an adaptator m4/3 to L mount if the anamorphic mode on the S1 works on the apsc mode of the sensor. Because if I have understood the principle of anamorphic it works on an 4/3 ratio of sensor…. Or am I wrong ? THX a lot !!
The point is to not use the anamorphic mode, but the open gate mode, which gives you loads of extra recording area on the sensor - this area is covered by Sirui's full frame lenses, while the MFT/APS-C versions won't get it.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thx a lot. Meanwhile i take the time to reflex on this and watched your others video on Siriu Full frame lenses. Now my question is, as 4/3 is the original format for Classic anamorphic PL lenses. Is it better to invest in a GH6 with an 4/3 format open Gate or in a Full frame, I mean for specific anamorphic work ?
Thx a lot !!
Do you have any info about new Sirui set coming out in 2023 with 2x squeeze natively? I think I will wait for this instead of buying these 1.6x. Anyway, great video, as always!😉
I have no info on that!
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Tom Antos mentioned it in the end of his Sirui video review on his YT channel. I thought maybe you know something more about it 🙂
Hi, love your channel. I am a Fuji Shooter (XH2S) and I have zero experience with anamorphic yet. I have seen some content creators with the combination Sony A7S3 and the Sirui 35mm. I like the look of it. Is there something I can buy to get simular results (1.6x squeeze factor) without selling my kidney to afford an anamorphic lens?
Do you think this technically possible to swap the mount, for example from L-Mount to RF-Mount on theses lenses ?
Technically, yes.
I own the 50mm & 75mm lenses for E-Mount if you would like to borrow them!
DM me if you want to set that up!
I am planning to buy sirui anamorphic lens set. But I can't decide Which mount should I buy. If I buy PL mount then I can use it with Sony E Mount cameras or Canon EF mount cameras with metabone adapter. Now my question is is there any back focus or vignette issue or any other issues in case of using adapter?
They don't come in PL mount, or EF, only mirrorless. Any mount you choose, you'll be locked to it. So if you have a Sony camera, E-mount is the only option.
...been looking. lotta Canon C70's out there... do you know of ANY Anamorphic lenses that will work with no hassle with the Canon C70 with EF Adaptor? Even 1 would be better than the none I have found. Also... if not that...what's next best option to get "the look"... thanks for your info...
Are these constant squeeze or not? Recall that they were not. May wait for the GreatJoy 35mm with a 1.8 constant squeeze.
They're not. I mention it a couple times through the video.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Hi !! what is constant squeeze please ? Thanks
@Shei Tan Check out this: ua-cam.com/video/KXcjoSKRpYU/v-deo.html
AS soon as you add nd vr nd filter boom soft image. Or just two square nd's in stack lol
The strange EF is better than nothing, but it kills the advantages of using full frame lenses on crop cameras. Same with the great joy.
Hello..was looking into anamorphic lenses to experiment with my photography..notice the name labels "Venus" and "Saturn" lenses?..what is the differences between them?..and what does the "1.25 x Anamorphic Adapter do? to the lens/image?..thank you
Hi Titto I adore your content. Also watch every video.
I have an issue with my equipment. Currently use Caden diopter, Isco red star and Helios 40 and lumix s5. I believe I suffer from astigmatism because I can only focus an img with f4 minimum. Tested with other lenses such as Jupiter 9, Nikon Nikon 18d, and smc takumar 50 8. All these lenses do not suffer img quality loss but only Helios 40. Is the diameter of taking lens too wide or anamorphic lens or can it be Helios can not focus to infinity?
Any advice? Thank you very much.
Do you have some favorite diopters that you could recommend? =)
The cheapest ones are fine! Just make sure the thread sizes match otherwise you're prone to vignetting. :)
@@AnamorphicOnABudget you're a legend! Thank you so much =)
What happens if I shoot 4K/422/16:9 in my S1H with this FF lens? I know open gate is better but I really don't want to shoot in 6K/420. And do you think I better get the S35 lens to shoot in 4k/422 ?
You'll get a 2.84:1 aspect ratio and crop out the sides to conform to 2.39:1 if you want that. :)
@@AnamorphicOnABudget so is it better to wait for the Laowa S35 nanomorph lens to get better aspect ratio? Because S1H has S35 4K anamorphic mode with 422
As for the 4k 4:3, you'll get a 2.1:1 aspect ratio. I've gone for 2:1 aspect ratio a lot recently, so just a little crop there.
On a 16:9 recording area, 1.5x or 1.33x lenses fare better if you don't want to crop anything out. I'm okay with cropping though. :)
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thank you for your time and the clear replies. You deserve all the support. Amazing channel. Wishing you all the best.
I would like to know if you can help me. I am currently working on my 4 camera setup for streaming to OBS. I want it all to run anamorphic lenses. I have 2 full frame Sonys and 2 apsc Sonys. Im wondering should I just buy the full frame anamorphic set or 2 full frame and 2 apsc. What will give me the best cinematic image? Just wwant to order the right parts. Also I have a 28-70 gm so I was planning on buying that adaptor that will bring my Sony gm to anamorphic? Wondering if that will have my gm matching the other anamorphic full frame sets?
why cant u use AF
There's no electronics in the lens, so no motor to drive autofocus - that's the simplest explanation. There's a more complicated one about anamorphics, focusing and cameras AF detection.
Yeah makes sense, but what about the adapters
C‘mon Sirui, please give us these with PL 😅 I’m so sad I can’t use these outside of renting a stills mount camera package for them. These belong on an Alexa.
waiting to greatjoy complete set. seems it has more character, is more "flmic", i like it better.
Terrible distortion though.
10:18 cats will do cat stuff, and that should be respected
Finnegan has been an active participant!
@@AnamorphicOnABudget tell him it's appreciated
Panavision is still the best for customization for large format coverage, lens flares are Bokeh and distortion. C series can’t be replicated, like having a vintage wine.
They're amazing and great indeed. Except you can barely rent one for a day for the price you can buy this pair of Siruis. :P
True but it’s like buying a Toyota vs a Ferrari. One thing people don’t take into account is also service and repair. Anamorphic requires a trained and experienced technician to maintain. It’s highly sensitive and cannot be repaired without proper equipment. Repair costs range from $150 to $200 per hour. You wind up spending more money in the long run for a look you might not be satisfied with and a lens you wished didn’t purchase for all the headaches associated with maintenance.