Skye Jethani Tells Us Where We’re Wrong on Heaven

[@bethprather9241]

My grandchildren especially the little babies as they grow plus when I taught small kids.. You can have one moment that joy explodes in you because of the childs answer or a 1 year old having all attention this past Christmas marching on her box and not playing with the toy.. All eyes and my mom just loves ❤️ 😍 those babies.. and Gods blessing.

[@judyogle9967]

As my husband neared his death, he talked more about Jesus, listened to the Word, and discussed his regrets and concerns. He asked me "What do you think heaven will be like? What will I be doing because I don't want to sit on a cloud and play a harp? :) I told him some of the scriptures and then offered: "I think we'll be working." Working!!? And I reminded him of the jobs we had that we enjoyed so much that it was wrong to take pay. But yes, God is busy and it stands to reason we'll be working.... maybe taking the gospel to other planets? And said I thought we will know and see things that we can't imagine.

[@Window4503]

I'd agree with you on working, though since God hsa only said he created us and the angels as far as intelligent creatures, I've always imagined other planets were either more habitable before the Fall, meaning we could enjoy them and theoretically would have colonized them ourselves, or, if they were just as harsh as they are now, our job after spreading Eden around Earth would have been to spread it to other planets. Jesus died once for all and specfically for humanity from eternity...had he died for other non-humans, he would already have taken on their flesh as well and kept it for the same theological reasons he's still human for us. I definitely think other planets will be involved though...after countless millennia of thoroughly exploring and flourishing on our own.

[@happy777abc]

The news is so deceitful most people don't know what to think. But people are praying!

[@SpringLake842]

Skye said "...we are relying on extra biblical authority; we are saying what God has provided for us in scripture isn't enough", at 4:47, followed by the idea that to adopt extra biblical ideas as authoritative is a "lack of trust in God" as we have thus decided we need more than what God has chosen to give us. This is one of my problems in most denominations; almost all take something beyond what the Bible says and make it "scripture", ex cathedra. The Bible Institute I graduated from even did that while claiming to be solely bible-based. Is it possible to be a Christian and yet question the doctrine of the Trinity on the basis that the Bible really doesn't go that far? I am asking in honesty, as I believe Russell is trying to crack back into Truth without all the baggage, and damn the torpedoes. (I, unfortunately, am one of the Nones, having given up on my evangelical roots.)

[@Window4503]

You would first need to prove that the Bible doesn’t go that far in the face of centuries of Christian theology, especially early Christian acknowledgments of and arguments for the Trinity. You would have to take the Athanasian creed and find what’s wrong with it biblically. But I think it’s very telling that obvious Christian cults and apostates tend to be anti-Trinidadian or tend to misunderstand that concept. There are plenty of concepts in Christianity that are upheld by Scripture but more neatly package into a term you would find in the text. There’s a difference between adding to Scripture based on cultural influences with no supporting evidence and making an argument based on actual Scripture to support a concept that is evident but not explicitly stated. Is it possible to be a Christian and deny the Trinity? Well, no. At that point you’re discussing a different god entirely.

[@chappellroseholt5740]

Good evening from the SF Bay Area. I have been on a 50 year path that has taken many twists and turns. I learned very early on that a faithful heart and a searching intellect will be well rewarded. God does not lead us into dark, we are lead into light if that is what we are yearning for. There is a lot more than ancient scriptures that we are gifted with if that is where God is leading, just like me. I was a "None" when at the age of 10 my evangelical mother told me she didn't know if our loving Catholic neighbors were going to heaven. So, be true and faithful, you're good to go, follow where God leads. Blessings.

[@Window4503]

@@marklawler9444 If it helps at all, it actually isn't contradictory to say that Jesus as God's Son is still God. "God" is, in a way, a type of being or very narrow category of being. If a human son is human because of his father, then Jesus is God because of God the Father. But because by definition God is eternal and there is only one, then you basically have a person of the Trinity who is begotten by God from eternity (because he himself is God) and his relationship with the other person in the Trinity is a father-son relationship (just as humans can have a father-son relationship) while they're both God-not separate, but the same God. If that still seems impossible, watch a few videos on geometry in the 4th dimension. If there are physical and mathematical examples of what seems to be more than one IN one thing (like a hypercube), then how much more for a God who transcends all dimensions??

[@bethprather9241]

I agree and am learning but everytime he states that isnt in the Bible , well we also as Christians know, the Bible is alive and active as 2 edge sword. So with the Holy Spirit in us... some scriptures absolutely speak to us in different ways.. and we know. It isn't all literall...

[@judyogle9967]

Hell - no presence of God, no Christians, no light. As a Christian, I'm accustomed to thinking I walk in His presence every second, when I do well and when I mess up. So, no God is a horrible thought!

[@yjk5737]

20:34 Skye says heaven and hell were not central to the gospel preached by the apostles and makes a case based on that. That seems to overlook how much Jesus himself talked about heaven and hell in his ministry though. Russell pushed back on that some with examples from certain apostles too. The resurrection of the dead is very much central to Paul's presentation of the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15 too -- "If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied."

[@pastorofmuppets8834]

Can I please get an answer to this?
When will Christianity Today stand up and speak out for the rights of civilians being murdered in Gaza?
The Hamas attack was evil, but it does not excuse evil acts in retribution.
Staying silent on this, or worse, just supporting the Israeli point of view, is anti Christian.