Mrwhosetheboss Gets SO MUCH WRONG! response to How mobile games are designed to SCAM you.
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2022
- I go over the entire Mrwhosetheboss Pokemon Unite Pay 2 win video and break down each thing he gets right and each he gets wrong. I think he is talking about Pokemon Unite in a way that is either a lie (I doubt this) or showing that he is quite misinformed. Let's get into it. Become a channel member today!:
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Do you think he's lying or just misinformed? I think he really isn't sure why he is losing at this game tbh...
I think he's just not truly invested in this game to be honest or he didn't learn the game first before reviewing it. 😹
He got skill issue, somehow he's really good at spinning it into a bullcrap content
Spragels, he just have 28 matches. He truly doesn't know what he's talking about 😅
Tbh of you pay thousands of dollars to be good at the game and you still lose there might be a possibility that your just bad at said game
In other words: skill issue
I think its a smear campaign or click bait he shouldve not included pokemon unite because its a moba game not a gacha game
2:26
"I started losing"
*Lone Charizard in enemy slow zone next to enemy spawn in a 1v2 with one being a defender and then again another 1v2 right after*
"Must be the need to spend money"
"So I paid money. *Buys a notoriously bad item, an item that does nothing for Charizard, and an item that arguably does less than nothing for Charizard.* "AND NOW I NEED TO SPEND MORE."
and then he used choice specs on char
and then he showed himself attempting to mash fire spin on charizard but missed the button three times before he noticed.😂
And fighting the Lucario one on one the Mid which obviously can't win the fight because of the Buff advantage of Lucario.
Can we all just pause for a second to acknowledge how tactful Jake is. Even in game when he has a teammate that does something that makes zero sense, rather than go off on them he’ll say something like “that was interesting” and move on. His tilt control and tact should be in the god tier on his next tier list.
Yeah, it kinda reminds of PekinWoof, a LoL content creator that's usually pretty chill, and when his teammates or anyone (including himself), messes up or whatever, he just explains the play and what should have done. If you play LoL is very useful since even in low elo, he explains how the opponent should have acted
I for one use the few games where my voicechat isnt banned to turn my teammates into shuddering, themselves-to-sleep crying balls of shame.
I wish I was as untiltable as Jake
Jake definitely is an extraordinary gentleman!
He's like the opposite of Tyler1
Mother : *"An Overconfident Traits Won't Effect My Child!"*
The Child :
-Claps Bots In First Game.
-Got Overconfident To 1v3
-Paid 100$ To Upgrade
-Thinks Its All About Money
-Bought 3 Of The Worst Item Possible For His Main
Bro really bought choice specs for charizard 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@beastiemusix8422it's funny cause you can read the corner when your selecting the pokemon to see attack or spk. attack so you should know which items to buy early 😆
@@Theviolentredpanda exactly 💀💀💀 Like- seriously if you ain't gonna read the way this game works, you are OBVIOUSLY gonna lose. He really even said u gotta have the held items to at least level 30 when the max possible item use is at level 20
@@beastiemusix8422i mean i used to slap muscle band, wise glasses, and shell bell on any pokemon and i still can rank up to ultra
@@shiiroooo istg if you were that one greninja in my game with that trash build that didn't help us at all ima rage
I remember when we all thought the game might be pay to win but then all realized lvl 20 items weren't that difficult to do
true, you get flooded with aeos tickets and can trade them for item enhancers
Yeah I already have 2 level 20 items and I started playing 3 days ago
“No matter how much money I spent on this game, I still kept losing!”
This guy literally disproved his argument towards Unite 😂
It couldnt be that he sucks like 90% of the player base lol
But he does bring a lpt of valid points about mobile game "culture". Jake even agrees.
@@ivanljujic4128 but over half the criticisms barely applies to unite. Theres no set play time and you can spend 10000s if dollars you wont win with money alone and no thought
@@ivanljujic4128 your right bro but it doesn't apply to games like pokemon unite. Like sure you can use meta characters but they don't cost u money plus you still need skills to use them.
@@ivanljujic4128 I have never payed money in that (and any) game, but still I got to Master league 4 times....
Unite is all about skill, as they say, holowear doesn't change the gameplay, it's just for fun and people get the items max by time, even if I have max held items, I can still loose cuz of different reasons, but not because I didn't payed....
When he talked about buying items, he proceeded to buy two special attack items, for charizard
Poor guy
Has no idea what hes doing
Yeah I noticed that too.
The first time I played unite I also put sp items on chazirard lol
I can kind of see the mistake since, in the main games, Charizard is a stronger Special Attacker, but still, Unite literally tells you the damage type for each Pokémon.
@@turtlenator6249 I know that's what made me realize that Charizard is an attacker. Coming from someone who got hooked as a general fan from the main games I just assumed it would work the same way, I also thought it depends on the moves I choose. If I used flamethrower on Charizard I would've assumed that sp items were required
His video is basically “ I couldn’t win so I felt obligated to spend money, then I kept losing and it feels bad “ while never researching or actually... learning how to play.
Honestly man, I just love how reasonable your content is. It's very obvious that you don't throw around words without thinking. This video just proves how reasonable and informed a person you are.
He's a shill
The only shill here is this “whosetheboss” guy who literally ends his vid with a plug.
@@idunnowhatimdoin like the shill Pokémon unite youtubers who never says any bad about the game and get to to Pokémon unite promos and get free stuff so they wil talk nice about the game lol
@@theblueexorcist8731 he does criticise the game though. Pretty often at that
@@pi5927 yes but when the price increas happened you know what happened all these same youtubers said not made no vids because how angry they are nope they just sit back so they can get their Pokémon access
This is actually a bit sad since he has a lot of following a lot of potential players would be automatically turned off by Unite and for the WRONG REASONS. 😔
Hey, at least they wont have to go throught the matchmaking hellwhole your addicted to /hj
True
as if what charlie did on launch didn't already do its thing, hell i doubt most gamers know who the hell he is
@@GarethXL yeah charlie effed up unites potential a long time ago!
@@GarethXL whos charlie and what did they do?
That was very diplomatic and chill of you to go easy on this guy. I would’ve tore him a new one as soon as he put Specs on Char 😂
I think his video is a perfect example of Tencent not explaining how the game works and the impact it has on the players. I hope they see this video and make some changes to the game that will prevent this kind of misinformation from getting out in the future.
No - as much as I agree that the game isn't horribly P2W, you'd be a fool to believe that the confusing rewards interface isn't by design. It's so you miss things and are encouraged to spend money instead
This just seems like a classic case of someone trying to do a year long grind in a week with money and pouting when they couldn't do it.
Could be
I'm a day one player if don't put in the work the games not for you
Honestly, he sounds like somehow who has never played a video game in his life and seems almost offended that he should... play the game.
@@PissedGrunty Yes he's a noob and the whole game a full of noobs that make you lose. That's the most annoying thing about the game. It teams you up with noobs even even when you're master
@@marioluigi9599 yes the thing I hate the most about unite is its matchmaking
It's a shame ppl are just listening to him without actually doing research about the game and just believing everything he is saying
Says a lot about humanity
Yup i just checked the comment section of that video
Shame on him. With 12 million subs he could’ve approached anyone in the Unite Community for input.
That's the internet in a nutshell. It's literally what most people do when it comes to listening to people they like.
The comments section of that video was filled with dumb comments like. " Oh Arun what your doing is very good and makes me wanna trust you and your the best ever for exposing such big companies like Pokemon without any fear" I am a person who gets angered very easily if someone is talking wrong about something they know very little of with so much confidence. I looked at spragel's video thumbnail and went straight to Arun's video. After watching the video and the comments I was fully enraged by all the cringe I saw. He played like a total fucking noob with zero skill and lost and decided spending money is the only way and went for it and lost again with still zero skill and I understand unite does have some of those offers which sometimes may corner u into buying and this man talks so much shit with zero sense I loved Arun up until now if you wanna expose the gaming industry for pulling money from whales choose a correct game do research about it play it yourself and do a little more research about ur ups and downs while playing and THEN make a video about it. Like mans put two fucking sp.atk held items on a CHARIZARD the game literally tells you what type of damage the pokemon does.
Jeez i've just started Pokémon unite 15 days ago and now im a master 1200 point player with 7 held items at level 20 and 4 of them at level 30 and i didn't even spent 1 cent ! im 100% free to play player.
Same here x3 master lol
Haven’t spent a penny in the game and I’m vet rank 🙄 I laughed every time he said he couldn’t win. This man isn’t being played by Unite, he’s playing himself.
Me too
I think he should just try to get
Good
I'm masters haven't spent a penny
I just reached ultra class 1 and haven’t spent a single second penny on the game
ive been masters thrice, 1400 once, haven't spent a single cent or even that much time in the gane
it's interesting how he came to this conclusion. I had a very similar experience when I started playing this game. I'd never played a moba so I quickly got to a point where I was losing alot, but instead of thinking "I need to spend money because other players have more resources than me" I looked into how to become better with my gameplay. That's when I discovered Spragels and Krashy and Cris. Instead of thinking "I'm good at video games so it can't be my skill that's lacking" you need to accept that you're not good at this type of game YET and learn to play better.
This is me as well! 😊😊
That was me as well
If your first reaction when playing games is “how much should I pay to get good here” then just don’t play games
for me i am good at these types of games get your skill level up
LITERALLY the same! Also Spragels and Krashy and Cris ;-)
First he said the game was just using your moves off cooldown, then said the game was too confusing lol
Well it is confusing. I have been playing this for over a year and have accumulated a lot of holowear tickets that i don't know where to spend. You could say that I could have researched but these holowear tickets don't do much when it comes to gameplay.
😂
@@Kushpatel9047 so you expect us to believe you never looked at the holowear shop after a full year of play
@@Kushpatel9047 tHe sToRe iS cOnfUsInG
@@Kushpatel9047 lol
I think it would be funny to invite that guy to play with You a couple of games and actually coach him / point out what he does wrong to improve his gameplay, and PU experience. It's not a game when You have to put in money to compete, but definitely put in time to master it (like in any other skill).
I actually have 33 Pokemons, all held items are all level 20, and 8 of them are level 30, COMPLETELY F2P. I wouldn't say it's a scam, but if you got spending problems, it's not the game's problem anymore.
Ur all items aren't lvl 30 right? P2w p!Ayers can get all of em lvl 30 easily and have access to even completed pokemons early
So you're saying that if someone is an addict, giving him drugs is ok? These games are designed to bankrupt the people with spending problems and also get some that do not have spending problems into having those problems. Stop being so naive.
@@anindokhajuriachakrabarty3276 But the boost from level 30 isn’t much, and a level 20 item user can beat level 30 item user. Also, you can just grind for a month and get them.
@@anindokhajuriachakrabarty3276a free game cannot not have a paywall against things, Pokemon unite is a great f2p game out of the ones I've played
20:15 I just find it so funny that he's playing Pikachu, a ranged attacker, a Pokemon in the game that you should use at a distance when fighting enemies, just walks up to a 1v3 and gets destroyed lol
I want to 1v1 that youtuber with my gengar when he have all op held item who will win pikachu who have potion or gengar with unite move
Edit i don't even care about him making bad pokemon unite review video i just want to bully him in 1 match and ko him every single time in pokemon unite
@@rasyawahyu4283 I feel that 😂 But sadly UNITE is just too nice to N00bs so we won’t see that guy until he gets a little higher in lvl
@@rasyawahyu4283 you dare to 1vs1 with gengar? You must be a pro
Never would've happened with level 30 Leftovers
I love when he talks about losing, he puts a clip of Charizard walking towards enemy base, with all bases intact.
Dude, you aren't losing bc money, it's bcuz u bad.
Imagine the story IF he kept winning when he paid for those items. "THIS GAME IS PAY TO WIN, GG"
I don't understand that, he is talking all about how the game is p2w but when he actually bought "p2w" he said he is losing even more
@@anormalguy8407 Well once he started paying, he finally got teamed up with actual players instead of just the bots...
....and then he just constantly lost. Looool.
So he thought, the game wants me to pay EVEN MORE to win. So he spent thousands on upgrading almost everything, but he was still losing. So he thought "I guess they want me to pay even more! Nahhh I'll just make a video, telling 10 million people how bad this game is and that you always lose if you don't pay more and more every day". Lool!
@@anormalguy8407 That tells you how badly informed he is. He's generally like that. Hasn't got a clue about so many things. Like, in his last video he tried translating a Spanish sentence using the phone voice assistants. He mispronounced the words and apparently thought it was French instead of Spanish, but didn't even do a French accent. Needless to say, the voice assistants didn't understand him and he gave them a fail. Looool
And he's also narcissistic. Look how salty he got because he couldn't win by throwing money at this pokemon game. Now he's put up a pinned comment on that video saying, in response to all the feedback he's getting, he realises he was being a bit harsh on the game, but he's still insisting that the only way to win at it is by throwing money at it. Loool
Some people will never learn because they just always got to be right on some level, even when they're obviously wrong. They can't admit that they were being idiotic
@@marioluigi9599 but you do have to put money in the game to win
To win in style points
@@janbiel1221 what do you mean, style points?
Its genuinely just him not knowing how to not throw a game. Hes walking into the enemy base where they can be easily supported by shields and healing in every single clip of him playing
Coming back to this video 8 months after it was released. I am proud to say that we are coming up on the 2 year anniversary of Pokémon Unite, and I still have yet to spend a single penny on the game. And I have not experienced any sort of reduced success in the game due to not spending money; all it has been is an extended period of time to upgrade things. Even then, I still have a 58.7% win rate in the game, and I still do not have all of my items at max grade. Money does not have to be spent on this game for success guys. What is needed is time and effort put into improving at the game, and as you do that, the rest of what you will need, such as the item enhancers, will come with time. Keep at it, and don’t give up.
Best part is he played 28 matches in total and didn't play against real players, all were bot matches according to unite.api
Bots p2w I guess 😂
@@fber5591 if they threw players to 5vs5 real players they'll get destroyed, stomped, and more.
Which will frustrate them and make them quit, even wild rift does this where you as a new player can go against bots to learn.
Not only that when you are on pokemon unite and you get a newbie is really probable your team will lose so it helps the newbies sanity as older player's
@@irabflores3531 I'll vouch for that I made another account for fun and decided start in rank with best build talon flame in season 2 or 3......just decimated so many teams and was honestly the fastest I ever hit masters.
@@fber5591 exactly. Bots are killing this game. It's absurd how many bots games you get, when you didn't choose to play against bots. Sometimes 90% of my games are vs bots. Feels like not many people are playing this game. I play other MOBA games and 100% of the games are against players (10 players in total), unless I choose to play against bots.
It's my biggest complain with Pokemon Unite.
And being bullied by rowlet 😅
He doesn’t play, he doesn’t practice, and he’s surprised that he keeps losing lmfao that video was ridiculous
Also i dont think the small upgrade are irrelevant they do still make a change but people still win without held items with how they use their moves 😩
He makes some good points, but he also makes it out like the game's holding him hostage forcing him to spend hundreds of dollars for miniscule stat boosts when in reality the game throws out so many free rewards and helpful items for new players
im sorry but its an actual fact , about the things he said like the expensive purchase in the beginning to make everything else....seem negligible, these are factual things used in every game now, as a person who got developer friends, and the amount they rake in by using this against the gullible, unite isnt a saint either. Its confusing for many beginners who has to either pay, or watch a lot of guides to even get started on a game which is the weirdest fking thing. Take league for example, i DONT NEED TO WATCH A VIDEO to actually learn how to play, nor will there be a micro transaction slapped right into my face, to set value of currency into the game
He gets so much wrong it’s embarrassing. I hate when people use fake narratives to get views. So glad you’re calling it out, it’s neccesary. Imagine a pay to win game having world championships like unite does 😂
To me it just seems like he's missinformed
Hes not fake he is a really honest guy and tech reviewer
@@Acronix He is a dog looking for getting views
@@Acronix not a very good reviewer if he can’t even do his due diligence and research properly on the game. He could’ve looked for some of cris videos, spragels, Krashy, indie, bruv, teeds. Instead he just chat pure rubbish. I’m sorry but that’s fake, he had a lot to look at before lying about a game. I’m all for calling out shit, and the gemlocks, the coin caps is trash! But this game is in no way pay to win. He lied for views that’s as simple as it is
@@Kyle0787 he obviously didnt do his research for this but all of his other videos are fantastic
The Moist video was my first time seeing unite and I loved playing it after that.
Thank you for you're videos which let me not fall into the traps Mrwhosetheboss fell into as this was also my first MOBA.
I had quit Unite for a couple months but my sister (who I originally got into the game) got me back in and I am so happy to be enjoying you're videos again. Sad we are in the worst meta ever tho.
When i first played pokemon unite i thought that attack weight was bad and useless but when i used attack weight the first time at level 21 it was so good that i reconsidered my decision that attack weight was bad of course items like special attack specs and attack weight and aeos cookie have different effects
The item enhancers you need to get to lv 20 is over 1000 or a little over 500 from level 1
Question:Is leftovers item bad?And what are your opinions?
I mean leftovers are decent early game better then nothing and goes on any pokemon but generally unless you are running a more defensive/support build they are just fine (unless you are me who made it my first lv 30 lmao I was dumb)
Glad you and Chrisheros are covering this cuz videos like the one he made hurts the game and scare away potential players
Ironically I bet a bunch of new players start playing
@@spragels I bet a Saybleye giveaway that you’re right.
@@spragels Indeed. I noticed there are many new players here in Europe.
@@wysockifamily1747 I see what you did there, sneaky lmao
Bad publicity is still a publicity.
Props to spagels for staying respectful even when he was clearly frustrated
Yo I was getting frustrated and if it were me I’d be making way more harsh comments, but spragels is a true class act, kept his cool and just stayed factual, which is the right way to handle any situation like this
what spragels does best dude
So, if I put super item enhancer in a level 26 scope lens, do I get all the item enhancers back which I put in to get it to level 26?
Yes
The battle pass the first time you buy it is actually $4 with the double first time gem boost. The next one is an $8 purchase for 2. Then after that it's $8 for each. So essentially it's $12 for your first 3 battle passes, which each last about 2 months. If you don't know you don't like it by the end of the first one...
I love how this guy says he keeps loosing,runs in as a CHARMELEON to two fully evolved enemies…lol
The only concerning thing for me is the steady increase in cost of new Pokemon. We had 10 000 as "high" at the start, but now every new release has been 14 000 for a while.
Yea they gave Mew for free but I feel they only did that to make the next 1s even more expensive . If you actually track the cost they've only gone Up and Up . I kinda feel that's part of the reason why they keep releasing so many characters so fast. It's already pretty bloated. The next ones will probably be 20K and with the hard Aeos Coin limit you'll basically be priced out of trying to learn a new character to play competitively.
Battle passes are used even in console games. Plus people gotta keep in mind that the game developers need to get paid because there are bug fixes that they gotta implement there's new content that they gotta but out there to keep the game interesting and all that costs money to implement. All I got to say is if you are enjoyed the game there's nothing wrong with spending a little bit of money on the game.
Can we talk about the aeos coin cap and the new inflated prices for new Pokémon. Sabeleye is about to be like 15k
Jake I watched this from CrisHereos and your thoughts were really good I haven’t spend a single cent on this game and I still have success that guy just has skill issues to be honest
I don't think it's a skill issue, he's running sp atk char and lefties, it's clear that he paid 100$ in a game HE HASN'T EVEN GOOGLED, also he doesn't know that for 90% of items you don't need lvl 30, just 20
Edit: I agree that he his skill is really bad, but lack of skill doesn't make you spend money, unless you have waaay more money than you can handle
@@Synoh he is a noob who never did any research or watch youtube videos from other content creator and just talked nonsense
@@Synoh yeah true he doesn’t understand the builds for each pokemon and he doesn’t have information for each pokemon and how to play the game
@@Synoh it's a skill issue
@@Synoh nah it's definitely his lack of skill.. my man doesn't have the slightest clue what he's doing
Imagine if he spent this much time researching how to play instead of researching why unite wants to make money
If he dumped His time into guides how to play he might have bought the right items and actually learned what to do with charizard on the map and how to play it 😂
@@auranecropolis2848 exactly, he should've done that
@@auranecropolis2848 ikr, it isn;t even that hard to build in unite
Its not why unite wants to make money, it's how they make money. Be smarter and you will understand his point.
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Just pointing out that while there are some frustrating things that I have been forced out of, I have been playing since the beginning and haven't spent a single dollar on the game. The only thing that has me frustrated is Pokemon prices, wherein they can be 6, 8, 10,12, or even 14 thousand coins to purchase and that grind can be a pain, but while some Pokemon are incredibly strong, no Pokemon is so inferior that it can't compete among others. It is annoying when a Pokemon you really want is released and it costs 14 thousand coins, while so many others cost less, like do you save your coins for tyranitar or do you continue to buy all the cheaper Pokemon you can?
A very big part of some f2p games is the resource management, almost avery f2p player can benefit from it, but some games, like genshin, does get a focus over it with time.
WhosBoss has no clue how Unite works. Pretty sad people just eat up his BS up.
Jake? Or mrboss?
@@adbhutanand28 mrboss obviously
@@9ineee nah i dont think like techsource is probably mrboss's friend
not just mobile games but online games in general.
Techsource are u talking bout mrwhostheboss or jake?
The problem with this video is he says everything with incredible confidence and the video is well edited and produced. A lot of people are going to see this and not think twice about any of the completely fabricated figures he’s presenting. I’m glad Spragels made a response to this.
He’s brainwashing us into thinking that Pokémon unite is brainwashing us
Confidence is the key here, it made him seemingly believable and trustable when in fact is not. It's just like those "millionare/successful speaker" who speaks everything with confidence and use words that sounds really smart but in fact aren't
Right?!!! So loud yet so wrong...
@@sneakyratsniper na i watch MW hes just misinformed or that he just doesnt know how the game works
Someone had to ...i imagine he gets a lot of backlash for this..i watch his channel but this makes him look suspect...ill-informed and spicy
I think it is kind of funny but also frustrating that he is almost right about everything from the monetization tatics to the predatory behaviour of F2P Mobile games, but he somehow chose the worst possible example to ilustrate his point
Yeah he is totally right about these type of games, it’s just that Unite doesn’t do all of these
@@spragels also I kind want to send him your Road to Master w/ no itens just for the principle
@@MnWEnohe would say jakes holowear is giving hidden buffs for buying
I have been playing Pokemon Unite for months now and when I first started I didn't know much and the game indeed doesn't educate you enough when it comes to emblems and held items. My very first account has a win rate of 47% because when I started to play the matchmaking was horrible but I will also admit that i lacked skills and knowledge about the held items and emblems. Still, I didn't feel pressured to buy the membership/battlepass because the game rewards you.
I recently, decided to do a new account as I got better and I bought the membership (actually I wanted the batttlepass but by mistake I got the membership lol) and I canceled on the same minute. Tbh, i just paid for the membership for the skins, nothing more. Majority of my held items are at level 17 (before the membership and even after) and I don't care for the emblems as for now. At the moment, I'm at Ultra 5 because I'm trying to carry my gf her bestie to Masters 😅
My old account which is FTP I reached Masters multiple times and yes, I spent hours and hours and days to get there.
Also watching Spragels, Crisheroes and Inder helped me a lot.
“I’ve paid a ton of money, but I’m not winning… this clearly means it’s pay to win. I’m just not paying enough and everyone who is beating me must be paying **even more** than me.”
Literally exactly. He honestly wanted to be able to steamroll everyone else after spending money. I guarantee that’s what he was waiting for
Lol make him check those people's profiles and he'll see that they're all f2p players, so he was losing to players who hasn't paid a single penny on the game
You can't blame the game because you lack the skills and don't know a shit about pokemon
I felt bad that Jake is trying not to be a jerk 😭
It's because his fanbase will literally cancel him if he said something bad.
@@LinepithemaHumile also there’s no need to be a jerk.
You can counter someone without being mean to them
@@Lonewulf321 and it's goes better for his arguments if he demonstrates logic and fair judgement without coming across like an asshole, especially over some game that we just play for fun.
@@Lonewulf321 yes you are right. But it true tho.
@@LinepithemaHumile cancel culture is a fake boogey man and people should be nice by default
Your patient my man. Well first of all, we can choose to buy stuffs in a game with real money or not, and second, how are the developers gonna live if they can't make money in their game.
Anyway thanks for the constructed criticism.
CODM is also quite transparent about how their draw system works. There is literally a large button in the middle of the screen saying “more info” which tells you all the reward chances and that there is an increase. The values it increases by are also easy to find online. I have bought the entirety of one of the draws because I liked the skin and was willing to put in the $200 for it.
I put this comment under CrisHeroes’ video but I wanna put it here too:
My perspective is different than a lot of people because I’ve played a ton of mobile games, usually with a lot of micro transactions, but this is my take:
Prior to the introduction of more ways to get held item tokens, the game definitely felt pay to win. It was difficult to get an item to level 20, let alone level 30. And unlocking Pokémon also took a much longer time
I am 100% free to play on Pokémon unite, and I have 7 items level 30 and majority of my items level 20, with the ones I don’t have level 20 being useless to me. Keep in mind I’ll have days where I don’t play the game at all, and others I’m playing a ton
I am not desperate to unlock every single Pokémon, but I have a lot of them. Compared to other mobile games, Pokémon unite is much more generous with the amount of free items they give
Yes progression will take a while as a F2P, but if you expect the highest grossing media franchise to make free to play progression easy, you are going to disappoint yourself. And of course money does not equal skill level. It doesn’t matter how big of a whale you are if you don’t know how to rotate to lane
I’m not happy with how the mobile game industry gets their money it doesn’t feel honest at all, but Unite feels like a poor choice for this topic. Diablo Immortal (which he does talk about to be fair but it should’ve been the main focus) would’ve been a better choice imo
Why do people need Items or emblems to win tho? I hit masters every season (6 in a row now) and i've never spent a dime.
@@metsumat you need them but you don't need to pay for them. The game gives you more than enough for free or to at least earn. Spending money to max out atk weight does nothing unless you actually know how to use stacking items. Emblems is more about min/max stats. It does make a small difference but i have nearly every emblem and nearly 50 gold without spending anything on them.
Why don't you post this at the uploders channel? We are well aware of this, the people on his channel are oblivious and encouraging.
@@indrajithak47 I probably will but there’s always the chance no one will see it and those who don’t want to believe it will just ignore it
It’s very hard to change someone’s mind even if their opinion has flaws
I've been playing since launch and even from the beginning it's been very F2P friendly.
You get many free pokemon that are good in the meta like Greninja and Cinderace.
If you spend enhancers on the wrong items like most new players do (myself included) your experience could be worse, but even then it didn't take too long to get the right items to lv.20 when I knew which ones to lv up.
Notice how like every time the guy shows footage of him losing to back up how disadvantaged he is, it’s also like footage of a 2v1 scenario minimum.
The point in his video was that the whole game influence us to keep on going to make purchases and keep going
Yeah, we’re all aware that f2p games are centred around giving us some form of addiction, or using a gambling system, we get that.
Idk if you actually watched this video, but he talks about shit that doesn’t matter in unite, and actively contradicts himself.
“ I have to pay to be able to compete “
“I bought the things but am still losing “😂
Thank you for doing this, you're the real MVP.
Some idiots in the internet really deserves to get slapped hard af.
I have reached Master 3 seasons in a row until now and I haven't payed one single dollar. There's no need to pay in order to be competitive, just practice and understanding the meta and the objectives 🤌🏻
Edit: it's also my first moba and I play 4-5 hours a week, sometimes even less. I just started playing when it was launched for mobile
your first moba huh. congrats. its alot of info to take in, but when it clicks, its quite fun.
The $1200 he “had” to spend was for buy all the Pokémon he “needed”, with all the skins he “needed” as well as all the energy rewards he “needed”.
As a f2p moba player for almost my entire life. I think he just misunderstood the game and is misinformed. That's why whenever I try and play a new game I watch a video about it and how it works for at least just 10-20 minutes. The only time I ever pay for a game is when I want my favorite characters to have beautiful skins.
You either a ML player or LOL played or any other moba games
@@Akacchin ???
I like the items TheBoss put on his Charizard. Leftovers, I don't think it's seen as too great of an item; so many ways to restore HP (Sitrus berries from Goal 1, being in the goals, healer supports, and a few other things) aside from passive Leftovers (which takes 8 seconds outside of combat to activate), and Choice Specs on the physical attack Charizard (understandable mistake; while it has Flamethrower which is a Special move in normal Pokemon, all Charizard's moves in Unite deal physical damage). Aeos Cookie is decent though.
That @Mrwhosetheboss guy is totally on point about how the mobile f2p model works and how it lures players into spending more. While Unite has a lot of those traits, but the game has been pretty fair to its players. Just by playing the game regularly, you get all the coins and tickets you need to buy you the next Pokemon and get a good chunk of item enhancers. The game doesn't lock anything that is game-changing behind a paywall (the 'play Dodrio/Scyther a week early by paying gems' scheme is kinda bad though). The premium skins are crazy expensive and I would have definitely bought a couple of them if they were 1/4 or even 1/3 of their current price, but I'm ok with it. It's just a fancy skin. And besides, they've been generous lately with lots of decent free skins for a wide variety of Pokemons now.
Like @spragels said, you don't need to spend ANY money to get an advantage. The only advantage you can get is by playing it more and learning all the intricacies of the game. This guy clearly hasn't done his research. Or he just went in assuming things.
I think,Spragels should make a guide video for new players about what are the first things you need to do in this game.
Ex- settings,learning about the mechanics,choosing 2/3/4 suitable characters to rank up,free held items,the game menu,what to do as f2p and what to do as a money spender etc.
Some of that stuff has been covered in YT videos before like getting muscle band, scope lens and energy amp/shell bell to lv30 and getting other useful items like focus band etc to lv20.
But I think you're right there's a lot more that UA-camrs could cover now that the meta has changed a bit.
I think he has this kind of video and even other Unite UA-camrs have their own guide for beginners.
But I think it depends on playstile and pokemon. For instance, in a lot of cases, Buddy Barrier is *_WAY_* more important to max than Scope Lens, Shell Bell, or Energy Amp.
skills and team coordination left the chat 💀
That's a thing in the name woah all the bots are in my name in ranked have clue what that is
Someone should let that guy know that he could buy full rights to pokemon unite and he would still lose every match. It takes time and experience, not money to win.
Now specifically for Pokemon unite aeos coins being a currency for everything is not favourable for the players because you buy Pokemon licence from these coins so you need to have enough of them. I do see how end game players wouldn't mind that but for mid game and beginners it's very hard
The few things i learned from Mr. Spragles is to have a LOT of patience, try to have fun gaming, and don't look at your win rate when playing pokemon unit. And it absolutely helps.
And the frustration was really because of losing money due of lack of information regarding game.
So,yeah mrwhostheboss deserves some mercy.
But having made a video he is misleading people about PU.
I also feel equal parts sad for, and angry at, mrwhosetheboss because there are so many legitimate problems with the game that the devs should fix but he literally played 28 matches and gave up and didn’t do any research with the actual community.
The phrase that stuck out the most..." I spent half of my total earned aeos coins on items"... So basically the guy isnt an eye user and can see that he could also buy with tickets.
he had just started the game and he wouldn't know which currency has more value so he spent aeos coins because he had more of them
@@csmitt1269 His position for the whole video was "I cannot play this as a free user", if he tried to think as a free user and evaluated things appropriately, he would have taken note that unite licenses can only be bought with coins or aeos gems, and items can only be bought with tickets and coins. Again, he was looking to make content, bashing mobile games is easy, and bashing the pokemon community stirs up a hornets nest. This was a ploy to get views. Nothing more.
@@csmitt1269 To be fair, the fact that he JUST started the game is still on him. He just impulsively went for purchasing with whatever he had instead of doing any significant research.
But Spragels is right, there are very few in-game teaching tools. But UA-cam is free!
@@Link898 true lol im a free player and im about to complete my held items almost all of them are lvl20
I agree on the part of Unite and other games just want money but also I can tell he didn’t take the time to understand and grind the game. I spent max $40 on the game and it was just on battle passes and I made it pretty far in the game. But it’s also obvious that he is part of the spending addiction that he warns us about and then shows us that we have to spend money for validation which probably makes the issue worse.
I feel that guy is feeling pressured and paying for rewards is a product of that pressure, he's also making mistakes while playing. He charged right into the enemy base, tried to 3v1 and 2v1 in a very reckless way, then saying he needs held items to do well. I've been f2p since I started playing and I haven't felt any need to spend money to upgrade my items and buy energy, you're good to go as soon as you get the pokemon, held items and emblems barely make a difference. Sure, I won't deny that the effects are something good to have, but by no means are necessary to perform well at the game.
I literally have tons of energy tank boosts and it's just a matter of time to max out my emblems and my 7 or 8 held items are pretty much what I need for my playstyle, these items have good upgrades on them as well
Yeah please keep this going. All famous unite youtuber should make videos like this since this is a complete bullsht. Things about mobile games that he said actually makes sense but picking pokemon unite for the video just fails 💀
What annoys me is he pepper in valid criticism with misinformation from his own conjectures. Which gives the illusion that everything he is saying is 100% valid
He’s indian, what u expect
ROTI PRATA!
@@Smoothvoperator racism is never tolerated, go get educated
@@allanberche7902 getting the wrong information across to a moba game is also not tolerated
@@Smoothvoperator still racism
I remember I picked up this game around when Sylveon came out, and the first maybe 4 hours of me playing I had 3 items I personally leveled up to 20....
Even though I know that maxing out my held items isn’t that useful, I didn’t spend money on the item enhancers and I like getting a few extra stat buffs so I always try and max them out
Just came from CrisHeroes responding to this and after checking the original video there’s So many people agreeing with him in the comments on the worst points
I mean he’s right with mobas in general but not Pokémon unite
@@tuff360 yeah he does have good points on other moba’s and some for unite as well
My biggest peeves about this video is that the dude mentions how if you want to get into this game competitively, you have to use money and how much of a slippery slope his argument was. He did bring up points that I would normally agree with, if he hadn't used Unite. But the logic about the competitive stuff is like simply just astounding. You don't need money to get better, you need to spend time learning the game, learning the map, the mon you want to play etc. I could go on and on, but most of the points Spragels and Cris makes about his video are points I agree with. There is so many flaws with his argument and it's so frustrating that it'll influence so many people because of his following.
I've paid over $60 and played for a year and don't even have all the Pokemon...
@@brunaldo5522 I’m playing since january f2p and i’ve got most mons
Apparently he only has 28 games. He can't really be talking about staying competitive if he's nowhere around experiencing it
@@brunaldo5522 bro how can you not have all the mons after spending $60 and playing for a year i have played since release but only actually played for like 3 or 4 months tops cause of breaks and spent half the money u have and i have managed to get just about all of them
I've never spent money on Pokemon Unite. I've owned it for a couple of weeks and I've got a bunch of Pokemon and almost every item around level 15. I legitimately have no clue what this guy's deal is
As someone who has been playing Unite from basically its launch, it's nice to see someone as knowledgeable as Spragels deconstructing all of this, while I can agree that some of the systems can be confusing, as you say yourself it's nowhere near as predatory as he makes it seem, I personally as someone who has little self control have only ever spent about 100 dollars on the game one time ever and that was just so I could buy up every Unite license from the start, and even then after eventually using up most of my gems I still have tens of thousands of aeos coins saved up for whatever comes next. Rambling aside, what can I say except skill issue
I will admit, the stress and confusion thing is true. Thankfully, it lessens as you keep playing and learning more about the game and meta.
The confusion part, I mean. The stress just increases.
The stress and confusion are true just about all of competitive game even not a f2p game , like fighting game for example, you need to learn it to understand the game, he just have to admit that moba is not for him
I really felt in a way similar to how he is describing when I started, but that's because all I knew was that I wasn't getting everything the game had to offer being a f2p player. I was not getting many item enhancers like the content creators I watched had, and I always thought I'd never have a chance if I were to fight against them because of that. But the truth is that most of the things done outside of a match do not really impact the game enough to make someone worse in skill than you to beat you, even if you are using Assault Vest, Leftovers and Float Stone on a Lucario chances are you won't get sweeped by a Crustle unless they are really good with it and you are not good with Lucario. However, to finally be able to see that took a long time and I've been frustrated with the game for so long until I did, but this guy didn't seem to put any effort into really exploring the game other than viewing numbers.
I will say, I made a new account on Unite for my wife and was playing some games to earn her some Pokémon and stuff, and with level one items & no emblems, I was wrecking people in some of the games I played, just because I was more experienced. Item levels and how much money you spend in Unite is almost negligible
two ppl of similar skill, one maxed one not paying, who wins?
@@kinginthenaught depends on the Pokemon
To be for he’s right about item enhancers taking an eternity to earn. Depending on which Pokémon you like to play you may need multiple set of items and even getting 6 of them to level 20 is a process.
Also as a f2p player Jake, the difference between resource you can earn passively and the resources you gain from the battle pass is huge. Yes it’s mainly to sell cosmetics but there’s also a big incentive to buy it for the mats that come on top of new holowear
Also it there are people with like 10 gold emblems for full crit which I’ve seen in vids but it was also a big enough problem that they had to nerf those emblems and I *_still_* have mainly bronze garbage in spite of playing literally 20 hrs a day since these craps came out.
@@idunnowhatimdoin same here I got like 6 golds and most of them are for bad sets
@@idunnowhatimdoin gold emblems are shit, the only thing that matters is the colors
@@idunnowhatimdoin my friend 20 hours a day isn’t healthy no wonder you’re angry lol
@@riplix20 It’s a figure of speech, he’d be a dead man if he literally said that.
I stopped playing unite for a little while and just came back to it around the time the anniversary started. They gave me so many things for free and I was able to level up quite a few items because of it. They also just give you licenses for free and give you so many options. The game is genuinely fun and I haven't once felt the need to spend money on it because I was behind
Hey I tried to play back I lost 7matches in rank match that's why uninstall
"They are trying to scam you!" Says the scammer.
Lol.. I just started playing last Friday.. and this guy gets everything wrong...
People said long time ago that LoL is pay to win.. because you can buy some currency boosting to then buy more champions and runes etc... but if you just play more you get all that.. plus I have like 16 or 17 pokemon in unite now and I only bought TTar and Gengar.. my win rate is 70% on ranked... and now I will buy premium currency just to buy some skins.. coz I like some of them
My friend play pokemon unite when it's first time release, and when he reach level 48, i ask him how much does he spend on this game, and he says 0$
As of about two weeks ago, I can say that I have EVERY item MAXED out at level 30. I simply just wanted to see how long it would take to do so. So it's just a little over a full year of consistent playing.
Damn! There is hope for me then.
unless you've enjoyed that time all that was wasted hours but in the name of science well done.
I mean level 30 isn’t necessary and there’s items that suck that I haven’t even purchased yet so why waste time leveling those up
Actually you can not do this anymore, because there were good events b4
Lmao bro just get a console and play smite or league.
His "You can buy a ticket to Japan and buy a real Pikachu for that much" has big ""It's a banana, what could it cost, 10 dollars?" Energy.
For someone who has played day 1, this game is p2w but only in the early ranks and when the game first released. Nowadays everyone has nearly the same level of every item so it comes down to skill or what the meta is atm. So yes at certain points of the game it can be p2w but later on like in the master ranks it isn't p2w
I question how much time he played the game outside of getting footage. After playing supposedly 3 weeks he ignored a lot in the game.
About his point on the held items, the level of the actual items might matter, but if playing correctly it doesn't really even matter what items do you even use,one of the series that spragels have done is getting to the highest ranks without using the correct items or even upgrading the held item at all. So no, you really really don't need to feel pressured to upgrade the items at all(also the item he bought are genuinely bad).
The part that made me laugh the most was (paraphrased) “imagine going into an establishment and exchanging your money for tokens that can only be used there, they wouldn’t get away with that..” immediately shows stock video of a casino.
Arcades/ Nintendo coins/ going to a different country
im pretty new to the game, but even i noticed everytime he dies he is 1v2 (god knows what combo of mons) with
Picked the game up briefly when it came out to try it and dropped it until they increased the roster. A couple months ago got genuinely reinvolved with the game.
I did not ever feel like I needed to spend $1200 dollars to be successful, or even to get access to some powerful Pokemon or items. Spent about $20 for cool skins, and that was it. No problem carrying in ranked games either. This dude is pretty disconnected from reality.
Unite has serious issues but not these ones
Spragels I've watched every one of your videos religiously, thank you for representing the community constantly and for the phenomenal support you show us as well as the game. Pokemon Unite isn't without its faults but you make it generously comfortable for new players and old players alike. Yeehaw 🤠❤️
Started playing a bit over a week ago, haven't spent a single dime and I'm almost in Ultra rank already. I may buy the battle pass to support the devs and unlock cool stuff because I genuinely enjoy the game but I don't feel as though I *need* to purchase anything to be good at the game.
I watched the other video and saw this one in recommended. I understand him to be busy with his channel, so while he played it for 3 weeks, that wouldn't have been a hardcore 3 weeks. I believe it was simply that he hasn't reached the points that you mentioned here. What you say about not knowing how to play this particular game looks accurate from the little footage I've seen not being the same sort of turn based combat I've always seen from Pokémon.
Overall, I think you did a fair analysis on his video and you showed a great deal of patience coming from the perspective of someone who's a lot more experienced with the title
I find it interesting he was struggling to get item enhancers, I always exchange my tickets for them because once you get all the held items I don’t find myself using my tickets for anything else. There is definitely a learning curve, as I am still learning myself lol, and definitely could be explained better during the tutorial. Also very mind blowing he spent this much money on this game. I don’t know if the average player who occasionally pays will spend that amount of money unless they were a content creator or influencer. I pay for the membership because you can Basicly get a 40$ holowear after around 1-2 months of just logging in. Love your content Jake, thank you for explaining in depth to his statements! Definitely will share this to my friends!
Mf didn't even get the items with tickets, he used coins.
Exactly. I started a week ago and I've had enough to max out multiple items, plus the free item boosts, plus a stack of the 7 day item boosts that I have no use for at this point.. And that's without spending anything. I could understand if he was misinformed, but he's just blatantly exaggerating and wrong in so many aspects it has to be intentional for views.
I agree LMAO, I haven't spent anything on this game, yet I've been on masters since the 1st season. 😹
Isn’t the issue that newcomers are against most people who started at season 1 and mostly have lvl 30 items? I think it’s difficult for new players competing with players who have both boost emblems and upgraded items.
@@Theliblubshow bruh the game literally gives you free lvl30 item enhancers and lots of item enhancers from doing missions, the whole video is him being triggered because he has to actually spend time in the game in order to become good at it
@@Theliblubshow bruh if I started over my account it would end up being better than the account I have now 💀
@@Theliblubshow people create smurf accounts all the time, and this game isn't an exception. I think this fact is more than enough to debunk that reasoning.
you missed the point. he is talking about p2w mobile games in general, while using the pokemon as a backdrop.
The closest thing we have to a pay2win system is the emblem system, who are just little buffs that really won't win you the game if you can't play correctly.
He did got a point when saying that "we get attached to our pokemon and want to buy things for it" yes, but that's not a mobile game thing nor a Unite thing. People just love pokemon in general.
Also it's not that you need to pay to have chance at the game. Considering the gameplay he shown, it's just a massive skill issue.