I love my ultra bee I got a 21” front and 18” rear with Dunlop geomax 34s I ride with my buddies on gas bikes and it’s a great bike tons of features most people don’t even mention in reviews and such an easy bike to wheelie tons of torque the way I look at it if ur doing mostly offroad go ultra bee and if ur going street get eride pro
At the beginning of the year you guys had a couple thousand subs. I love how much this channel grew/growing. Honest content. Great comparisons. N yall make Easy to understand 😂 much love for that
BROOOO I have been researching this for days now and you guys made a video on the exact topic. I will however be waiting for the mx5 and talaria dragon to come out and go from there. Need a good upgrade over my xXx
I have a Light Bee X and an Ultra Bee. I really enjoy them both, but the UB is my go-to. Now, add more power, better brakes, suspension and tires on the LBX and you can easily see how THAT would be a preferred platform for very tight single track. As you pointed out, the platforms are very different. Truly enjoy these bikes! I might add there is nothing that about the bike that keeps me from riding the stock UB with the young guys with KTMs and Huskies!
Such a good video, many people told me I should have gotten an eride pro ss but I don’t regret getting an ultra. Feels so much nicer to ride and feels so much better being on a big bike
Pure street Driving: Maybe the E-ride Pro SS 2.0 Everyone else: Talaria MX5 hand down! I LOVE my MX4, and they upgraded almost everything I was hoping they would do and I'm shocked how much they actually did to it. The Ultra Bee is an awesome bike, but im surprised a lot people cross-shop them with an Eride, Talaria MX4, or Surron being such a different size class. One is a smaller sized bike, and one is a dirt bike sized bike... For that I still have to stick with my KTM 2-stroke for now. Under 200lb.. 40HP+ and a full day of riding Range on a Full Tank of Pre-mix lol...
I agree the 16in is a great upgrade for offroad obviously but it weights down the Eride alot effecting range & speed by about 30%...i also raced a Ultra bee on the 16 & lost, then again on the 19 & won
I think if you’re looking for a bike for city, town and trails the e ride is king. More trail and track riding ultra bee is king. Plus the e ride won’t draw as much attention from police if that’s a concern. Ultra bee looks to much like a full on dirt bike for me to cruise around my town with the cops.
I’m on a waitlist for an UB but the price and high profile deters me. Waiting to see if the MX5 comes out this Saturday and then make a choice what I’ll get!
I come from Moto and I love the xxx. Mainly because of the power to weight. Can’t wait to get my mx5 on the 13th though. Still throw the leg over the old ktm 2 smoke though here and there
Hey guys, Please re-review the 72V new Rawrr Mantis moto for $2900. Thanks. Many on UTUBE have reviewed this bike but your reviews are the ones I trust. Personally I don't believe that the frame on the Rawrr is strong enough for serious off road use but not one review spoke to this issue and hundreds of guys are buying this bike for the price alone.
I come from Gas bikes, and would prefer the Ultra Bee if I could also have the LBX. Currently I have a KTM 350 long distance trail bike along with a fully modded LBX for some light trail riding and urban riding. They both have their spots in the garage.
I'd love for you to try the new Apollo RFN 2024 43AH. I understand that it's halfway between an eride and an ultra bee. Perhaps the best of both worlds?
Ive had my UB for about a year. Coming from an early production MX3. i have no regrets and feel the UB is the better starting platform for single track ,woods, or Enduro.
Got the pro ss recently and man i love it though i did notice they fixed the issue of the battery moving around but it's a little too tight there now as it can be a bit annoying to get the battery back in and seems to scrape the warning/info sticker on it. Aside from that it runs great though i need to adjust the front wheel or brake pads as it sounds like it's rubbing against it
We need the MX5 in the mix of this video now please guy's. They should have sent you the bike instead of surroaster cuz you guys actually do a review and care
@@joebr249what part are you looking for it literally has every part available except for the swing arm but I know a company on instagram I talked to him and his in the process of developing a swing arm specifically made for eride pro
Buying an E Ride Pro SS soon, just wondering what tires you recommend for dirt and pavement use. Also do all the parts needed to modify the bike come in the box or should I be looking for some better tools to use on it? Great vids btw, been going around to a lot of videos for information before buying and these have been very helpful.
Glad your going to order one! Yes they come with tools to assemble the bike, they are fairly low quality but will work. The Best tires to order are for sure the Shinko 241 2.75x19 inch front and rear. Check out this page for parts specific to the E-Ride pro as well.tbelectricmoto.com/collections/e-ride-pro-ss-19
@@Talariaboys tysm, definitely getting that first starter pack with the bike off your guy’s site. Hopefully those out of box tools keep up until I get some better parts for it.
Coming from a dirt bike background I wanted the ultra bee. Talked to the guys at rev rides and they said the ultra bee was slow and the eride was way faster. So i bought the eride. I gotta say the build quality kinda sucks. Feels klunky and there is no grease in the rear linkage. It started creaking after only 10 miles. For the money I got into it now, could've got the ultra bee!
5:28, Brown Santa is approaching... He's been checking all the usual haunts cause bike delivery... Now Brown Santa is delivering to the trailhead??? You do have clout!! 😉 Bicycle brakes on a emoto sounds like Betty Crocker's recipe for disaster. Akin to installing Kia brakes on an F350 Super Duty and maxing out the load... Epic fail? My mountain bike has Hope 4 pots and they work like a heavy duty brake in that application however, the emoto is clearly too much for them.
What is best for 6 ft plus long legged peoples? When i finally seen a surron irl i thought to myself god damn that looks hella tiny! I didnt realize the wheels where so small it makes my smallest bike a 24 inch s.e. racer look big lol..I also want to avoid getting a motorcycle license to ride it tho. Hmm idk
I want a ultra bee Iv got a talaria x3 atm but wanting a upgrade and it looks boss am from the uk mate looks amazing there we don’t get it like that here
Or for the more fair fight...Stock Ultra Bee vs Talaria MX5 with 2k of add ons such as a second battery or upgraded battery. Weight between these 2 is so close and the reviews put the MX5 more in line with an Ultra bee minus the battery capacity.
@@peterrockne223 in my case, the difference between the 2 bikes would be around 1000 USD ultrabee priced higher. The ultrabee from Alibaba and the mx5 from a reputable site
The eride feels like an 85 with a weak 250f motor, I was expecting it to be way faster than it is tho from all the videos n stuff. I raced dirt bikes most of my life n this isn’t scary fast like I was wanting but it’s still pretty fun
The battery life is crazy tho, I can rip it in sport mode for like 4 hours but once you hit 20% it goes into limp mode n feels like an mx3, so like a ttr110 or something lol it’s not that bad
@@Talariaboys thanks Guys! My boys own a pair of OSET 20” 8 and 14 yrs old and the oldest one is 5-11” already! Thank you. He said no to the old 2 stroke mopeds
@Talariaboys honestly bike path, street, but mainly Miles to charge. Almost 2x on the varg but it's basically a 450 dirt bike idk of that will fly with Karen's 😄
Tip for those without unlimited money: and the ultra bee: Motoz 19" terrapactor for rear. It raises back end about a half inch over stock front 19". I am experimenting with even lowering front forks in Triple clamps 1/2" as I want to see if I can get the front to closer to point/go for tighter rides. Hope to post on my channel soon.
I"ll probably go for an E-ride now that they're gonna launch a street legal version for the international market. Surron fell off with their new kids bike
@@BalanceOvOpposites the eride pro ss based on their reviews and other reviews show that it is better then the sting but only slightly. just depends on what you feel is better
You're comparing apples to oranges. I am 210 lbs, and my E Ride Pro SS runs me just fine. It's absolutely not worth $2,500 more to move to the Ultra Bee, other than bragging rights
@@Talariaboys you’re telling people it’s worth it to spend 50% more for a bike that doesn’t give you 50% more. Sounds like you give bad “expert” advice.
The suspension, brakes, surron app, traction control, 74v battery are all things the e ride doesn't have and shows how much more of a premium bike it is and not a electric mountain bike. My advise is to ride them both if you can. Then you'll know what fits you best.
I love my ultra bee I got a 21” front and 18” rear with Dunlop geomax 34s I ride with my buddies on gas bikes and it’s a great bike tons of features most people don’t even mention in reviews and such an easy bike to wheelie tons of torque the way I look at it if ur doing mostly offroad go ultra bee and if ur going street get eride pro
Great adventure fun. At 71 Y.O. I can live vicariously through you, young guys. Keep making videos!
At the beginning of the year you guys had a couple thousand subs. I love how much this channel grew/growing. Honest content. Great comparisons. N yall make Easy to understand 😂 much love for that
Thanks for the support! We're just getting started!
BROOOO I have been researching this for days now and you guys made a video on the exact topic. I will however be waiting for the mx5 and talaria dragon to come out and go from there. Need a good upgrade over my xXx
Canadian dealer stated late 2024 for the Dragon, just changed it "to be determined".
I found a demo Ultra for super cheap and couldn't be happier.
I have a Light Bee X and an Ultra Bee. I really enjoy them both, but the UB is my go-to. Now, add more power, better brakes, suspension and tires on the LBX and you can easily see how THAT would be a preferred platform for very tight single track. As you pointed out, the platforms are very different. Truly enjoy these bikes! I might add there is nothing that about the bike that keeps me from riding the stock UB with the young guys with KTMs and Huskies!
Ultra B with 18/21 and bar risers/pegs makes it the best all around single track e bike out there.
That is an awesome setup
Such a good video, many people told me I should have gotten an eride pro ss but I don’t regret getting an ultra. Feels so much nicer to ride and feels so much better being on a big bike
I love my Ultra Bee. It's a big and fast bike. I plan on upgrading to a 21" wheel which I know will make a huge difference.
Small bikes for me all the way. I'm a sidewalk warrior for most of my riding. lol
All you gotta do is take off that dumb front fender, throw smaller wheels on it and your just as small as the eride
Pure street Driving: Maybe the E-ride Pro SS 2.0
Everyone else: Talaria MX5 hand down! I LOVE my MX4, and they upgraded almost everything I was hoping they would do and I'm shocked how much they actually did to it.
The Ultra Bee is an awesome bike, but im surprised a lot people cross-shop them with an Eride, Talaria MX4, or Surron being such a different size class. One is a smaller sized bike, and one is a dirt bike sized bike... For that I still have to stick with my KTM 2-stroke for now. Under 200lb.. 40HP+ and a full day of riding Range on a Full Tank of Pre-mix lol...
I agree the 16in is a great upgrade for offroad obviously but it weights down the Eride alot effecting range & speed by about 30%...i also raced a Ultra bee on the 16 & lost, then again on the 19 & won
Been waiting for someone to do this comparison. Thank you.
I got you
I think if you’re looking for a bike for city, town and trails the e ride is king. More trail and track riding ultra bee is king. Plus the e ride won’t draw as much attention from police if that’s a concern. Ultra bee looks to much like a full on dirt bike for me to cruise around my town with the cops.
I’m on a waitlist for an UB but the price and high profile deters me. Waiting to see if the MX5 comes out this Saturday and then make a choice what I’ll get!
Buy a used one. I got my ub for 5800 usd second hand
I come from Moto and I love the xxx. Mainly because of the power to weight. Can’t wait to get my mx5 on the 13th though. Still throw the leg over the old ktm 2 smoke though here and there
Hey guys, Please re-review the 72V new Rawrr Mantis moto for $2900. Thanks. Many on UTUBE have reviewed this bike but your reviews are the ones I trust. Personally I don't believe that the frame on the Rawrr is strong enough for serious off road use but not one review spoke to this issue and hundreds of guys are buying this bike for the price alone.
i need a review on this too. can’t decide between it or the xxx
There's a video comparing all the e motos, rawr mantis comes last in almost every category.
@@liamk9906 mx5 pro
@@tannerrogers9841 that’s the mantis. there’s a new mantis x that just dropped
We might be getting one
We're glad you're liking your carrier!
I come from Gas bikes, and would prefer the Ultra Bee if I could also have the LBX. Currently I have a KTM 350 long distance trail bike along with a fully modded LBX for some light trail riding and urban riding. They both have their spots in the garage.
I'd love for you to try the new Apollo RFN 2024 43AH. I understand that it's halfway between an eride and an ultra bee. Perhaps the best of both worlds?
We haven't heard great things about it to be honest
@@Talariaboys Me neither. Thats why i want your review. Its seems to have a problem with the flex on the swingarm.
This was literally me last month I went with the ultra bee I think I looks way sicker
Ive had my UB for about a year. Coming from an early production MX3. i have no regrets and feel the UB is the better starting platform for single track ,woods, or Enduro.
It's really hard to choose one bike their both the best bike
but maybe wait for talaria mx5? :D
Coming Saturday from Surronster
surronster i think is going to be uploading a vid on it i saw him posting on his insta
His video is terrible and told us absolutely nothing like usual man I was excited to see it@@LarryRichelli
Thinking I should buy an xXx because I'm on a budget and it has such good reviews and supposedly preforms for its price.
You can’t go wrong with an xxx! Amazing value and so much fun!
love the videos keep em comin!
Great review enjoying 14 miles on them bikes in the mountains 🫡💪👋
Thanks for the comparison video. It's some good perspective
Got the pro ss recently and man i love it though i did notice they fixed the issue of the battery moving around but it's a little too tight there now as it can be a bit annoying to get the battery back in and seems to scrape the warning/info sticker on it.
Aside from that it runs great though i need to adjust the front wheel or brake pads as it sounds like it's rubbing against it
would have liked some more comparisons and also mentioning how the bike would perform on the street and what tires etc
Who doesnt love these guys
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@@Talariaboys yo what about the giveaway?
Crazy timing I was wondering which one I should buy an ultra bee or an ss and this video pops up 😅
Might get the ultra bee next, own the eride pro
We need the MX5 in the mix of this video now please guy's. They should have sent you the bike instead of surroaster cuz you guys actually do a review and care
Thanks for the support, Its coming. Stay tuned!
@@Talariaboys can't wait I would love to see it against the super Bee and the e ride! Price aside what is the best bike in them!
@@Talariaboys And thank you for doing an actual review on all these bikes! You guys actually give some good content on it all unlike gay roaster
Yo tboys the Talaría pro 13kw 72V for 4789 that’s going to be all you guys let’s go tboys
Video coming
Watching this as I already have a Pro SS 😂
Pro SS is king. Wish it had more aftermarket parts.
Hi Mike , may I ask u what site or whatever u bought eride from?
@@joebr249 So many Surron parts fit, it's not really an issue at all.
@@joebr249what part are you looking for it literally has every part available except for the swing arm but I know a company on instagram I talked to him and his in the process of developing a swing arm specifically made for eride pro
Watching this as I already have an ultra bee 😂
Awesome video as always!
Buying an E Ride Pro SS soon, just wondering what tires you recommend for dirt and pavement use. Also do all the parts needed to modify the bike come in the box or should I be looking for some better tools to use on it? Great vids btw, been going around to a lot of videos for information before buying and these have been very helpful.
Glad your going to order one! Yes they come with tools to assemble the bike, they are fairly low quality but will work. The Best tires to order are for sure the Shinko 241 2.75x19 inch front and rear. Check out this page for parts specific to the E-Ride pro as well.tbelectricmoto.com/collections/e-ride-pro-ss-19
@@Talariaboys tysm, definitely getting that first starter pack with the bike off your guy’s site. Hopefully those out of box tools keep up until I get some better parts for it.
The market needs more titanium and carbon fiber parts for the E ride pro ss. And at least a 25KW motor.
Rawrr mantis x
Coming from a dirt bike background I wanted the ultra bee. Talked to the guys at rev rides and they said the ultra bee was slow and the eride was way faster. So i bought the eride. I gotta say the build quality kinda sucks. Feels klunky and there is no grease in the rear linkage. It started creaking after only 10 miles. For the money I got into it now, could've got the ultra bee!
Ya they have been telling everyone the E-Ride is way faster than the Ultra which just isn't true.
You need to press a "turbo" button in the e-ride
will you guys be checking out the new rawrr mantis x?
Maybe
Ultra bee range test !!!
I get 40 to 45 miles in eco mode on my ub. 130lb rider weight neighborhood riding
well well if it ain't the talapia boyz
That rack is sick!
Will u guys be reviewing the Talaria Sting Pro?
Im buying that MX5. Drop the video already!
For natural terrain mx, on smaller tracks, assuming the surron is better right?
Need 18/21 on the ultra and a torp controller.
Another great review
5:28, Brown Santa is approaching... He's been checking all the usual haunts cause bike delivery... Now Brown Santa is delivering to the trailhead??? You do have clout!! 😉
Bicycle brakes on a emoto sounds like Betty Crocker's recipe for disaster. Akin to installing Kia brakes on an F350 Super Duty and maxing out the load... Epic fail?
My mountain bike has Hope 4 pots and they work like a heavy duty brake in that application however, the emoto is clearly too much for them.
Ultra 🐝 all day long ask me how I know❤
What camera are you using on pov?
What is best for 6 ft plus long legged peoples? When i finally seen a surron irl i thought to myself god damn that looks hella tiny! I didnt realize the wheels where so small it makes my smallest bike a 24 inch s.e. racer look big lol..I also want to avoid getting a motorcycle license to ride it tho. Hmm idk
Talaria sting mx5
What about kamax et time with the gearbox? I still choose about the ss pro & the kamax
I love my Ultra bee🐝❤
Nice!
I want a ultra bee Iv got a talaria x3 atm but wanting a upgrade and it looks boss am from the uk mate looks amazing there we don’t get it like that here
What about the talaria dragon or the mx5 though they look pretty good
Dragon won’t be out for a long time. Mx5 isn’t out yet
@@Talariaboys Dragons taking way too long, tell talaria to hurry up!
Dragon comes in December
Can you compare a stock talaria mx5 and the stock ultra bee please?
Or for the more fair fight...Stock Ultra Bee vs Talaria MX5 with 2k of add ons such as a second battery or upgraded battery. Weight between these 2 is so close and the reviews put the MX5 more in line with an Ultra bee minus the battery capacity.
@@peterrockne223 in my case, the difference between the 2 bikes would be around 1000 USD ultrabee priced higher. The ultrabee from Alibaba and the mx5 from a reputable site
Get a x9000 controller for the SS
ua-cam.com/video/ifCuh7UTSVc/v-deo.htmlsi=iAtNfhKeodw-VUyl
Have you guys had a chance to check out the Dust Moto at all?
No not yet
Do you have a video on the new mantis x coming?
We are hoping so
Boys! Where's your MX5? that bike looks sick.
Coming
Well done review.
Really hate the green frame, and having to take off the full seat to access the battery
The seat is easy to remove, and we will be covering up the green as well!
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Can these E-Motos be street legal?
Yes they can be made street legal but don't come that way
Would you guys say that your upgraded EBMX surron is somewhat comparable in size to the ultra bee?
Its still smaller but not a ton, but it does still weigh nearly 20 lbs less
@@Talariaboys ty
The eride feels like an 85 with a weak 250f motor, I was expecting it to be way faster than it is tho from all the videos n stuff. I raced dirt bikes most of my life n this isn’t scary fast like I was wanting but it’s still pretty fun
The battery life is crazy tho, I can rip it in sport mode for like 4 hours but once you hit 20% it goes into limp mode n feels like an mx3, so like a ttr110 or something lol it’s not that bad
@@metalofthedeathride in eco mode get it up to 20-25 then switch it to sport and gun it from there but it’s depends on a lot of variables
@@EmotoModsAndMore ya that just puts it in sport mode for a little, turbo doesn’t really do anything in sport either
The thing is if you have ever ridden a surron light bee or talaria the e-ride is so much faster.
@@JNacoustic ya it’s sick compared to those but I still want it to be faster lol
@talaria boys where can I buy a surron ultra bee black edition
I'm not sure!
Did you use a ramp? You said you were going to show us how you loaded it but you did not show us.
Just pivoted it on the wheel and lifted it up
can i just ask why dont you talk a bout the e ride pro s
I thought they discontinued that model?
@@Talariaboys no i dont think so cuz its just out of stock on their website but if i am wrong i am sorry
You haven't tried an Arctic leopard yet.
How tall are you ? Thanks in advance. I looked through comments and did not see it at the time
Alex is 6’1 and Lance is 6’3
@@Talariaboys thanks Guys! My boys own a pair of OSET 20” 8 and 14 yrs old and the oldest one is 5-11” already! Thank you. He said no to the old 2 stroke mopeds
Stark varg worth the money?
All depends on what you are looking for, hopefully our videos on the Varg help!
Yes
@Talariaboys honestly bike path, street, but mainly Miles to charge. Almost 2x on the varg but it's basically a 450 dirt bike idk of that will fly with Karen's 😄
PLEASE RESTOCK THE Gigigo Headlight xxx adapter i need one supes bad
Coming soon!
@@Talariaboys I BOUGHT ONE APPRECIATE it!! ❤
Eride Pro Gang
please test out MX5:)
Coming
Why do those brands keep putting 19" front wheels on OFFROAD bikes? That feels so horribly wrong when riding.
What would you rather they do?
@@Talariaboys offroad wheel combinations. 21 / 18 - 19 / 16 and so on. Right now I feel like tipping over the low front wheel.
Tip for those without unlimited money: and the ultra bee: Motoz 19" terrapactor for rear. It raises back end about a half inch over stock front 19". I am experimenting with even lowering front forks in Triple clamps 1/2" as I want to see if I can get the front to closer to point/go for tighter rides. Hope to post on my channel soon.
Its not fair comparison
But its a comparison that people ask for and want to see
No one knows a bit more about the upcoming talaria dragon?
Not coming for a long time and it will be a full size bike, larger than ultra bee
I"ll probably go for an E-ride now that they're gonna launch a street legal version for the international market. Surron fell off with their new kids bike
Dude had a crap start re drag
What happened to representing talaria?? Everything u do now is Surron’s or e ride pro.. u guys don’t swear by the sting anymore?
Sting isn’t for everyone so we try to show a wide range of emotos. We ride all different types of bikes now including 2 fully modified stings.
@@Talariaboysso what kind of rider (or riding) would you guys say the Sting is for at this point? Where does it shine, specifically, over the others
@@BalanceOvOpposites the eride pro ss based on their reviews and other reviews show that it is better then the sting but only slightly. just depends on what you feel is better
The talaria sting r is the best light bike for enduro and jumping @@BalanceOvOpposites
@@TalariaboysDo u still think talaria is better bike the those
Should I get the rawrr mantis x?
All depends on what you are looking for and wanting out of a bike. Hopefully our vids can help you pick the best bike for you!
You're comparing apples to oranges. I am 210 lbs, and my E Ride Pro SS runs me just fine. It's absolutely not worth $2,500 more to move to the Ultra Bee, other than bragging rights
Well I guess it sounds like your the expert
@@Talariaboys😂
@@Talariaboys you’re telling people it’s worth it to spend 50% more for a bike that doesn’t give you 50% more. Sounds like you give bad “expert” advice.
The suspension, brakes, surron app, traction control, 74v battery are all things the e ride doesn't have and shows how much more of a premium bike it is and not a electric mountain bike. My advise is to ride them both if you can. Then you'll know what fits you best.
I’m 6’5” 240 UB is hands down my choice and worth every penny , I love mine .