Top 5 Cold-Weather Base Layers
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- What an interesting topic we have today: Glorified underwear. But we shouldn’t joke, because a decent base layer can add a whole month to your riding season, and that commands respect.
Best Cold-Weather Motorcycle Base Layers:
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2:08 - Firstgear 37.5 Collection: frt9.co/4d1tok
3:14 - EVS Tug: frt9.co/4hg5du
4:39 - Klim Inferno Jacket: frt9.co/am0a9q
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Many, many years ago as a starving student I rode year-round in Edmonton, Alberta. My solution to 80km/hr at -40C was army surplus East German army pants, which were about 8 layers of wool (not merino, just regular communist sheep) and had a very clever layer of plastic sheeting inside there in some important places (like the shins) so that when Tommy Atkins (or whatever the German equivalent was) was kneeling in the snow the moisture wouldn't wick through. That plastic layer made the pants wind-proof even at 80km/h, and it was awesome. Pretty impressive tech for WW2 surplus.
The real problem was the hands. Oh, man. So many frozen fingers.
This all brings back memories.
Mostly annoying memories about how the Harley guys would be riding the sofa all winter, and come spring I'd wave and they wouldn't wave back because they were too good to wave to someone on a Yamaha. Yep. Still annoys me even to this day.
Lmao this shouldve gotten more likes. Reading "Regular communist sheep" made my day. when i rode my sport bike the harley guys never waved either. I just started riding a rebel 500 and now i get waves from those guys, i think they confuse it for a sportster at first glance lmao
One of the reasons I don't own a Harley.
Back in the day we used to joke that the reason hardly riders never wave back was because their bikes vibrated and handled so badly that they couldn’t risk taking a hand off the bars to wave… Surely they must have fixed that by now? ; )
For me, the biggest dilemma riding in cold weather (other than slipping around on ice & snow) was whether to speed up to try & get home faster, or slow down to try to reduce the wind chill and conserve body heat… neither worked well. I just got a pair of heated grips, and once I find the Valium I’m gonna try and put them on the bike! Frozen, numb hands suck… it makes it hard to flip off the ragin’ cagers!
80km/hr at -40C ???!!! You must be joking!!! Even walking at that temperature too hard!
Serious crimes.. Cowboy crimes.. And fashion crimes...
Hahaha . That's gold :)
I had to pause the video because his face had me laughing so hard.
i lost it at this point too haha~!
I literally, I mean literally, word for word laugh included said this seconds before scrolling down to this comment. How did you do that?
And now for those of us that consider everything above 100$ a fortune:
When it's not raining, dress just as you would on a *very* cold day, but add about two pages of newspaper just below the top layer, on your chest, belly, and arms(from shoulder to wrist). I guarantee those two pages will keep you just as warm as those jackets Ryan showed us.
When it's raining, well, just throw whatever you have on you and hope for the best, sorry, can't think of a cheap option here.
Also, Ryan, amazing job as usual !
You could try and make a video on heated grips / heated seats, since it's getting colder by the minute !
@77-ca-1-76 I have no solution for rain, but when it's just cold I wear my regular keep-you-warm gloves under my perforated leather gloves
"Best hot gear" at some point would be nice. It's kind of hard cutting through the marketing BS without a hands on experience
taking a cold shower with all your gear on probably works the best
Love Ryan but he's certainly not qualified for anything more than paper analysis of hot gear.
you asked a canadian to review hot weather gear....do you need a doctor? xD
I Ride daily in AZ. Moisture wicking long sleeves are great. When it's over 95f close all of your vents and use full gear. Above 95f is the reverse of a wind chill and you will get super heated uncovered. Seems silly to put on all that gear but it really does help. I have personally tested it at 115f, much better with all the gear (while riding)
I’m in Wyoming so no clue either
Generally speaking, it is very easy to stay warm even in extreme cold weather if you folow these simple rules:
1. Layers. The best insulant is air. The more air you can imprison, the more stable will be the temperature (works both to keep warm and cold). So instead of having a very thick layer, go for 2 or 3 thinner ones. Save for some exceptions (like north face parkas), it works better.
2. The external layer MUST BE 100% wind resistant. You may laugh, but a simple rain suit over your usual gear cuts wind very well. Just make sure there are no points where the wind came come in, or where the inside air can be sucked out. For that have nice hugging wrists, waist and collar.
3. Don't over do it. If you are over packed, you will sweat and then you'll be in trouble because the moisture takes the place of the air within fibres. That's the number one rule of extreme cold weather survival btw.
4. Dress slack. By that I mean do not wear gear that are fit or compresses the layers you are wearing. Everyone tend to feel more protected when snugged, but in fact, that's really bad. A compressed fabric doesn't hold air. Thus it doens't insulate.
5. Protect extremities. Heated grips or gloves are the best. In your boots, you might not believe me, but I used an old grandma's trick. I put some (ground) pepper in my socks. Likea restaurant ouch in each and believe me, you will never have cold feet again. I dare you to try and tell me it didn't work. Well obviously if you try that at -50 in mesh running shoes, yeah ok... But if you do that you're an idiot anyway... lol
So what I usually do is wear a first layer that absorbs and retain sweat (so that it doesn't go into the other layers). A simple cotton t-shirt does the trick. Then I put a thicker layer of fabric that holds as much air as I can find. Like a polar. I choose it kinda loose. And then I wear the best wind cutter I can find (like a rain suit, or a 100% water proof skying suit). And I wear a baklava to protect and seal the neck area. I used to ride at below freezing point without any problem (although I never really exceeded 2 hours; not because i was getting cold, but i just reached my destination WAY before I could feel the slightest change in comfort).
I just discovered your channel and I've been binge watching your videos for two hours straight.
Still happening years later!
Yes!
I don't even ride motorcycles, but his content is so extremely good that I'm hooked.
And since I'm cycling ~4000 km a year I have at least some use for some of the information which is so excellently presented.
I used to ride oceanside west coast roads during frost, but I was dumb kid and never had any cold gear. Some of the most fun Ive had on rides, feeling alive as hell
4 years ago. Still useful. Thanks, man.
I'm a skier who is all too familiar with base layers. And, yet, I still watch! Great review. (and you're right about Merino)
NOTHING BEAT THE OLD FASHIONED NORDIC FISH NET UNDERWEAR AS THE FIRST LAYER!
"Serious crimes, cowboy crimes and fashion crimes!" 😂😂😂
I've tried so many base layers for skiing, mountain biking and motorcycling over the years and found the best to be Icebreaker Oasis merino. Not cheap but very high quality and stands the test of time.
For me year round outdoor pursuits require heated gloves (Power in Motion, designed in Calgary), heated socks (Lenz) and I now have a heated vest. They are all independent with their own batteries, generally about 5-6 hours on medium heat. My bikes all have heated grips, and my former Beemer had a heated seat, which was very nice as I also used to ride year round, mainly in Vancouver area. I also have up to 6 layers on the torso!! Hey you can always remove extra layers when/if it warms up.
PERFECT timing for this video. Just what I needed to know, too. Thanks Ryan and the FortNine team!
So true
Personally, I go to my hunting gear for base layering! It's got the latest in materials and I know from personal testing that the base layers of my hunting gear is the perfect start for cold weather bike riding!
'Serious crimes, cowboy crimes, fashionable crimes' I love that line!
Merino Thrift store treasures, for sure,,,and Cotton destroyed me for decades, Bless You !!
I used my Helly Hanssen skiing base layers. They work well and are, from what I recall reasonably priced from most sports stores.
mr7wi Helly Hansen makes good stuff, they make up about half of my winter under gear.
I generally like these Fortnine videos and the content is usually really good.... with that being said... I ride year round, sometimes in 15-20 degrees on my Harley. There is no need to spend the amounts of money on these base layers. I wear Carhartt base layers through the winter for cold weather riding and it’s fairly cheap and super warm.
Duofoldmp merino for $30 the only problem is that they eliminated the tall sizes, cashmere sweater (thrift store), down vest, fleece lined jeans.
I ran the Freeze-out gear this last winter (ha winter in florida, 2 weeks max) & it works pretty well down to 29* F. Keeps your heat in, lets sweat out & blocks wind better than any other base layer I've used.
Returning rider. I dug out my Joe Rocket riding jacket from the mid 90s yesterday. It still fits, more or less, but apparently my layers are now a fat suit that I'm always wearing.
For wet coast riders...Taiga Works in Vancouver has the best prices for Merino products I've seen. Beating the the MEC folks across the road. Taiga makes their own, in Canada. I own several weights of sweater and love them. Good for riding around here. (Van. Island)
I live near the equator...
Why tf am I even watching this!! 😂
I wear a combo of army artic gear and Under Armour cold gear 4.0 .. Very effective.
Stick with outdoor companies for layering pieces, specifically for merino check out my favorites Icebreaker and Smartwool. These brands also dont look so techy and can be worn stand alone or not. Good stuff.
I put my Patagonia Nano puff UNDER my mesh Jacket once it gets too cold to ride with just my thermal liner.
When it gets SUPER cold or WET, I layer my Mountain Hardware Shell OVER the top of the mesh jacket, turns it completely waterproof and windproof.
Might sound silly to some, but being an outdoor enthusiast, I have found this to be the trifecta for Hiking/Climbing/Motorcycling/Camping/ or any other outdoor sport you can think of.
the nano puff keeps everything comfortable underneath and the Shell on the outside, holds my shoulder/elbow padding nice and snug.
I could use some of this wear. Typically in December I head off to work at around midnight where the temperature gets as low as high 30s low 40s and here I go on my bike wearing a long sleave 2 smaller sweaters 2 bigger sweaters my motorcycle jacket and a large windbreaker over it all. Top it off with my balaclava and my gortex gloves. I'm good to go. Then again it takes me like 10 minutes to put it all on lol
My Great Grandfather wore Wool Union suits that is one piece long Johns .. Wash in luke warm water drip dry .. put them in a dryer and they will shrink to a kids size ..
I just started wearing ski gear on my way to work. It’s bulkier but I still maintain my maneuverability.
The absolute best (which combines 50% Merino on the inside, with 50% Polyester (with wicking and anti bacterial properties). It’s called SportWool and can also come with a % of Lycra (a better spandex) for stretch and recovery! 👍😎
i live in literally the hottest country in the world but still find this amazing to know
Chile? Get it?
@@kegonpegs2833 well played XD
I'm obsessed with your videos haha! Thanks for supplying my fix!
ryan @ FortNine tell your boss we need more videos more regularly , what ever he has you doing tell him more videos are more important , my mannn
dafuq 110 bucks? I just buy some Heattech underlayers from Uniqlo for 15 quid and i can ride just fine whole year even in -20°C
@Jakob for that price id rather buy stuff from X Bionic, synthetic fibers work better with membrane clothing anyway and their quality is second to none compared to other brands especially with those 3D weaved areas.
i know i'm late to the party ,but it's 5 celcius on a windy night , and i got through without problem with the heattech underpants and a pair of jean , works wonder for the price !
I understood all those words
@@maserukururu4837 Who told you that, the company trying to make a sale? 😆
Uniqlo is awesome, lots of cool unique stuff there. Regarding Merino, it isn't cheap but dang it's good, in hot or cold. Very different from regular wool.
Compression layer is good for making you look slimmer, i didn’t know that was available in motorwear.. Excellent😏🤫
Thank you , exactly what I've been looking for.
Definitely needed this video! Thanks man, awesome work!
“you’d be wrong. If you must be wrong......” I’m using that starting today at my first meeting this morning. 😂😁
Love your channel. Just in the midst of getting back into motorcycling and I'm enjoying watching all your videos to help me pick the best bike and gear. Had my heart set on the G 310 GS but your comments have me looking at other bikes now after your review of the G 310 R. Cheers :-)
I'm built like you, but I wear multiple layers or normal clothes. I end up looking like the Michelin Man. My wife says there's no way I could even get hurt if I fell off the bike.
Ed Mathews is that a challenge?
katana767 I don't think so, I think she just enjoys making fun of me.
That's exactly how I feel hahaha I feel as if I'd just bounce around and get back up for another round lol
I hear you on the layers , I put my Patagonia Nano puff UNDER my mesh Jacket once it gets too cold to ride with just my thermal liner.
When it gets SUPER cold or WET, I layer my Mountain Hardware Shell OVER the top of the mesh jacket, turns it completely waterproof and windproof.
Might sound silly to some, but being an outdoor enthusiast, I have found this to be the trifecta for Hiking/Climbing/Motorcycling/Camping/ or any other outdoor sport you can think of.
the nano puff keeps everything comfortable underneath and the Shell on the outside, holds my shoulder/elbow padding nice and snug.
used to do this lol, pj's under jeans under light rain gear (like some togg froggs)
with proper boots, gloves, and armor ofc
bit I bought a 4 season jacket and actual base layers recently and will never go back
I still have a pair of snowboard pants that I rock below 45f but my Alpinestars Koln jacket, cortech hipora boots, freeze out balaclava, and freeze out glove liners keep my comfortable until 20f
I have the freeze out long johns as well but they dont keep my legs warm below 50 without a wind layer (because the freeze out long johns only have wind protection for knees and outside half of your thighs)
all good stuff - thank you!
i have a First Gear full body suit. it's so warm, it doesn't matter what else i'm wearing (other than my heated gloves of course). i don't feel the cold at all until it gets down to 30. at that point, i'm still not cold, that's just the point where you can start to feel coldness seeping through. the coldest i've ridden (i'm in texas) was 20F (-6.7c), and i felt perfectly fine. i think i could probably go down below 10 (-12.2) and still be ok. the wind chill on those 20 degree days is usually stated at like 12 or so, but they're not talking about travelling at 80mph. and if you're wondering, ice is pretty unlikely in texas. it has to be cold for a while for the ground to get cold enough, and in texas, it's rarely below freezing for more than a day or two. one day it's below freezing, then the next day it's 60 (15.5). that seriously happens multiple times a year.
This video couldn’t have came at a more perfect time
And for those of us who are poor, there's always military surplus. US ECWCS Base layers work very well
Don't use the Balaclavas though. They aren't made for the kind of wind speeds we get and it shows
at 3:20 that fashion crime line killed me😆😆
I’m all about that base...layer
Over $100 for a wool shirt is crazy. Many other options are much cheaper. (Ibex, Icebreaker, even Rapha (which is a super high-end bicycle clothes company, and their wool is softer than Ibex)) These were all around $50 each when I bought them, though that was like 10 years ago.
Yeah I checked the prices those companies now sell their stuff around 80-150 dollars. Inflation and the pandemic changed prices fast man
Icebreaker and Mons all the way. Merino works way better then synthetics. Mons is designed to be base layers and look like street wear.
I wear a tshirt (from a pack), a pair of joggers, have gortex on top, use the leather jacket when its too cold, have a scarf, a half face mask and, a watch cap. A better under layer seems like a better option logistically
Under armour 2.0 is pretty damn good. Not 2 expensive either
3:22
Hahahahaha hilarious
Bravo Ryan F9
I had no idea that Ryan worked for Gimli's little brother. Nor, for that matter, that Gimli's little brother was a biker. Nice!
In India you don't need layers to avoid cold. Just start a bit late and you'll find yourself as a Kebab by afternoon!😂
Much love F9!
So true
Unless you live up in the Himalayas!
I was under the impression that Manali can be cold at certain times of the year...
Yes! That is true! The northern mountains of India are pretty cold!
In india whats the biggest engine cc you can ride legally?
I love your channel! But I've never seen this video until today 🙊🤣
The cold itself is rarely a problem for me... it's the WIND CHILL.
Any tips for lightweight windproof layers? :-)
Frog toggs
Hey guys , you know that u dont need really to buy these underlayers but instead buy hockey underlayers (2x times cheaper) im a ex-hockey player and it keeps u warm enough for low temperature rides
“Lanolin? Lanolin? Like sheep’s wool? Your name is Lanolin?” - Ron Burgundy
The first level of the balaclava was kick ass mode
Cowboy crimes!!! Hahahaha you slay me man. Great video
F9 you did it again!
Why the fuck did I just watch and enjoy that whole video!? I live in Florida, I'm from Jamaica!
The only snow I've ever seen came in a cone, and I run my AC on Christmas morning so we don't break a sweat exchanging gifts. 30 below to me sounds absolutely insane, like The Day After Tomorrow where people freeze to death instantly outside... lol
Good video. Useless to me, but good.
Love the content much love and respect keep up the great work!
Ohh man, I want it all, but this video is 6 yrs old. I hope I can still get in touch with them.
British army thermals are great. Plenty of army surplus stores stock them and they're cheap as chips.
Great video! I'll have to look into one of those shirts. As it is though, I run a heated liner from Late Sept to early Nov so it has to be pretty cold before I'm wishing I had a $100 shirt on.
Great Video Bro
Them are some snazzy pants for sure
Nice watch dude, consider a review on it
Which high viz helmet would have the best ventilation and quietness combined?
Hey guys I'm new to riding and want to ride year round. I just picked up a jacket from LL Bean that is good for -40 F that I wear over my regular motorcycle jacket, but I was wondering if I should return it and get a full body suit. I live in Washington DC so we don't get a lot of snow, but during the winter it can get around 20 F on average. Love to hear your opinions, thanks.
Ryan, would be interested in seeing a mid layer review. If I can get my life back together, I want to get a sport touring bike, R1200RT comes to mind, as does the FJR1300. I'd like to go with the Firstgear 37.5 jacket, but I want to be able to ride year round in the Pacific NorthWET, i.e., Seattle. Since this will be a commuter bike, I don't want to have to get undressed at work, and then redressed just to do my job.
So, I was thinking 37.5 jacket, heated layers for the chest, either Firstgear's heated jacket, of the Synergy 2.0 line. I also like the concept of the Synergy 2.0 chaps, which should be easy on, easy off under a pair of 37.5 pants.
BUT, I'm still new to this whole stuff about colder weather riding, and so, I would like to see a video about good gear for commuting to and from work in weather down to about freezing level, without having a carry a wardrobe with you!
There is no amount of gear I can wear to keep me warm in cold weather, I've tried and gave up. Once it starts to dip under around 55 degrees Fahrenheit I'm done, I'm a bitch, I know.
You, sir, are a bitch indeed, I'm an all year rider and in the winter here gets up to -5 Celsius (23 Fahrenheit), and I have thermals that keep me well warm Only thing that gets cold is my ankles even tho I wear boots.
No judgements tho not everybody enjoys the cold weather! :D
petrooov -5 Celsius is cold? Here in Canada its like the beginning of summer...
John Jacob. How old are you? Where do you live? At least two factors right there that will contribute. Next, what kind of bike do you ride? Wind protection? A sport tourer will be significantly different than a naked! Finally, have you tried heated gear? You'll need to wire the bike for it, but it's not that hard, and you should be able to get up to 130°F on many of the products. That should keep you warm.
Have you tried heated gear?
I ride in standard kevlar armoured riding jeans & a summer mesh jacket down to about 55-60 degrees F and unlined perforated leather gloves... To each his own though. I also tend to run warm.
Ryan. I am a massive (English) fan of yours. Nobody does the "Yawn" into "Yawntertainment" transition better than you. I absolutely LOVED the "Vapour spelled the correct way with a 'U'' " comment, and then fan me with a wet fish, 20 seconds later you invited the viewer to do the "Math" (Singular). Since the subject is MathematicSSSSS, the abbreviation should also have an "S". Just sayin', just sayin 👀. Keep knockin' em out brother and ride safe 👍. Cheers Ryan
I think you guys need to move down here to Australia as you can ride all year long. 😀
Hey can you do an updated version of this, this winter?
Hello Ryan! If I only have one day to ride my bike around an eastern Canadian city, should I cruise around Ottawa, Montreal or Quebec City? Thanks
I'm just here to give Ryan a like and leave without watching (there is no such thing as cold where I live right now xD )
Yep natural wool is a superior material. 😌
Stay well away from cotton as a base layer, cotton soaks up sweat and holds onto it like a wet rag. Moisture wicking layer on your skin, and use merino wool or fleece to layer up under your outer layer. Never got cold with my system of layering while working outside in the negative temperatures.
Sooooo... Merino?
Thanks!
Woah, sword or sheath.
Best outro
You work for Mad Dog Vachon!!
I wear Old Navy cold weather running tights and and, Old Navy waffle tees, and Russell athletic boxer briefs. These items , along with work pants, basic t-shirt and leather jacket, have held me over down to 50° and won't cost more than $50 . I'm sure the items mentioned in this video are nice, but it's a waste of money when you have other products that are literally one quarter of the price that perform just about as well.
Serious crime, cowboy crimes and fashion crimes
Love it!
I own Marino Wool for cold weather running gear. Worth every single penny. All the pennies. Seriously, do it
Hey how about 1.5 mm neoprene swim suits? Socks, Barclava, jackets.. There are so many and I heard they are extremely warm and waterproof. Also cheaper.
Great topic!
Greetings from Turkey. i may be the latest follower, i loved your videos so im gonna be around. My last favorite reviewer end up dead in a dramatic traffic accident so be careful.
I love how my Merino clothing doesn't stink after a lot of sweat
Anyone know an eu/uk alternative to firstgear?
Great content. Pro tip: iron your button up shirt collar. It’s all wrinkled
Clicked on this because thumbnail reminded me of kick ass
Serious crimes
Cowboy crimes
Fashion crimes
😂😂😂
I want to ride in the rain but I hate wearing all the water proof gear as it's big bulky, ugly and just a major pain in the ass to put on, is there any decent gear that doesn't have any of the issues stated
Hey dude, do what I do: I wear a Icon Raiden DKR jacket and when it rains I just pull some cheap 13 euro waterproof pants over my riding jeans. Boom, done! :-) Tried it in monsoon level rains the other day, all good.
when are we gonna hear about the BMW F800(?) in the background?
thank you for not trying to rhyme in this video.
can you do seat review video? i cant decide between corbin or saddlemen
I wear whatever I get for christmas. Usually it's not 100% wool.
Fkn love these videos 😆
Hey dude maybe a bit late but could you do a review on the Honda x adv the 'adventure scooter' it looks awesome and I am interested in buying it in the future so I would love to see an awesome honest review by you . Thanks - some Greek guy