No start troubleshooting - Think City
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2024
- Useful Think City links:
Software and service manuals: elbilwiki.no/in...
CAN logs: github.com/dal...
Discussion forum: elbilforum.no/...
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Congrats, good job getting the Think back on the roads again!
Wouldn't have been possible without you! :)
@@DalasEVRepair I have a 2011 think city out here in California, our local ev guy has disappeared, I know it needs a 12v battery, hopefully can get it going again! Let me know if you're still around! Would love to get the software you've got.
@@DalasEVRepair can you link the think wiki page you speak of? I can find nothing!
@@beargillium2369 All software and links available on the Think FB group: facebook.com/groups/27279972050
Hi. How did you diagnose it? Can Launch diagnose it? I didn't find this model @@DalasEVRepair
Highly impressed. You actually know how to diagnose and fix. I think the new mechanics of the modern electric age will need to be as well educated and as intelligent as yourself. The part replacement method works well enough if the diagnostics are sufficiently sophisticated, but then you have to have long term parts availability and not follow the 'pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap' philosophy, that has developed into the planet destroying consumer society we live with at the moment.
Nice to see. I actually have a Think City 2008 and use it daily. My repair man used to work at the factory in Norway. No other repair shop can fix my Think when anything happens. Very nice to see your troubleshooting. 🤩🤩
hi iam considering buying one of these and i cant anywhere find what hapens when the zebra battery cools down. does it broke or it is ok? thanks
@@marcopolo6915The electrolyte solidifies ! This Zebra battery was originally developed in South Africa to be used on military vehicles and for long time storage. To make it work again it needs a 30 hour liquidification phase and subsequently a number of hours to charge it for normal driving.
@@astrogeo1 ok really thanks ;)
Do you drive it Norway still? Where are you located? I drive one here in Kristiansand.
having a good comunity around this model helps a lot
Yes, and there is one here!: elbilforum.no/index.php?board=55.0
I wish they still made them. Would be perfect for 99% of my journeys :)
Great news for your customer. How nice to get good news when they were probably expecting more misery.You now have a grateful customer. Good job.
You kinf of remind me of myself. Always trying to fix a simple problem in the most difficult way :D
Nice fix, and good that you show SavvyCAN which probably is the best tool for this car (there is another DBC-file you can add also, to interpret the battery messages as well).
For the connectors which where cut and spliced, that is a very bad way of doing it!
One should remove the orange cables (and their corresponding pins) from each plug, and fill dem with some Sikaflex or something similar. The only part of them which is need is the small "jumper"-pins for the Emergency Power Off (EPO) circuit in the middle of them. Without the plugs the car wont start and one would get the same EPO / crash error.
Well done! Probably should investigate why the fuse blew in the first place, no? I'm not very well versed in automotive electrical systems or electrical in general, but there's no reason why a fuse would pop without a problem in something its connected to I'd think.
Mentor of mine said: every work is easy if you got the right tools. :D
Well done. So glad it was such a simple fix & walking us through it all. It's important to keep EV's on the road as long as possible. Seems like a cute little car.
Skill and finesse vs. brute force :) Well done Dala :)
Aaaaah, sjukt nice!! Hade en Think från 2015-2019, skönt att du håller dem i liv mannen!!
Verkligen ett guldkorn dessa bilar!
Awesome work with these older EV's. You rock!
Kiitos 🙏😊
Daniel Perfect job. Nice to see that the same stuff works not only in tesla cars.
Excellent. I'll check my fuses now as well. All the best..
Hi. Looks like elbilwiki is down and i'm looking for service manuals. I just got two Think City cars that have been unused for almost 4 years. I already found wiring scheme for all car versions and this video was very helpful (i already ordered PCAN to USB device).
Try the facebook group for think owners!
Great fix, glad you cought it! Did you find the reason for the fuse blowing? Isn't 7.5A high for a sense/interlock line?
The circuit ultimately feeds a coil inside the battery, so it is quite normal!
Fuses it's a first thing what I test when I getting a car to the workshop. Fuses does not burn just by itself. Something triggered it. It might burn again if problem isn't fixed.
Wow! This was really inspiring. Thanks for making this video and putting it on UA-cam. I have Think City in my garage that doesn't work (and also one that works). Now I'm going to check all the fuses! 😀 Any tips on where to get those wires that you use for the OBD? And what software to use?
Join the Think facebook group, it has all the info!
Nice. As so often, the big problem is often related to a small issue. So small that you overlook it. As in this case a fuse. But what made the fuse to blow in the first place?
Why the fuse blown ?
Excellent job, though you might wonder what caused the fuse to blow in the first place :(
Hey you are a absolutely genius man!👍👍👍👍👍
Great job troubleshooting the Think and thank you for providing the software and manual links. Do you know where I can find the schematic for a circuit card in the Think? The one I'm repairing is made by SEMIKRON and is labelled as L5052900_04. It has an IRF7307 dual MOSFET, in an SO-8 package.
Check out the Facebook group "Think Owners", lots of good info there!
I can’t find the group. I have a 2010 thinkcity here in Greenland. Left for vacation, came back and the battery is not charging. Now i want to fix it :)
My car's has the following problem: Tha starting of the motor is rough, as I've observed one phase is missing. Do you have an idea about this issue ?
My Th!nk 2010 has Internal iso fault and 7 dead cells. I have reset the faults and been driving the car 5.000 km. Now the same error occurred. Is there a way to isolate/disable the dead cells, so the battery can still be used? With the last charge I was getting more than 160 km range with it.
I suggest making a thread here: elbilforum.no/index.php?board=55.0
Also the FB group: facebook.com/groups/27279972050
Kind of weird that the previous shop had not checked the fuses at all. Isn't it one of the first things to figure out if any vehicle won't start?
That's what I was thinking. Doesn't sound like a very competent shop to me. Literally a 60 year old farmer with zero electric car experience could have fixed this in 10 minutes or however long it takes to go through the fuses not even knowing what they're for.
Having said that, there has to be a reason why the fuse blew. Probably an issue in the wiring harness.
Oh, was the Norwegian Think built in Finland?! Didn’t know that! Was this during the Ford ownership or later/earlier?
Yes, roughly 250cars? where made by Valmet Automotive in Finland!
I believe they moved the manufacturing from Aarskog to Finland roughly in time when abandoning the Zebra battery for the Enerdel Li-ion. Someone with more insight please chime in.
hello can i use this car with home made battery 380v not the original bms?
No clue!
I found a th!nk for sale and i'm considering buying it. Would appreciate any thoughts or advice.
Join the FB group for Think fans! facebook.com/groups/27279972050
That's really awsome and amazing :) But i have a question, how can you get 40 kW from the grid? In my country the max that we can get on a single phase is 6.9 kW that's why Im curious 😁
Upgradee main fuses to 3x35A (20kW max). If I want 40kW, I need to upgrade again to 3x63A!
@@DalasEVRepair ok nice, thanks for clarifying 👍👍👍. Still 20kW is super awsome to have available without need to go for public chargers 😁
Dear Dala's EV repair, I've ssen your video, and I've tried to dowload the software that you've linked under the video, but unfortuantely the website is not available. Can you send me a working new link for the SW? THanks in advance !
Send me an email via the contact info at dalasevrepair.fi
Can somebody help me I have a think and I want to read the fourth codes what do I need in this video I see he has a tool peak Which one must I buy which program do I need thank you
Get the PCAN adapter, and the software is found here: facebook.com/groups/27279972050
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"That easy" - well, how many hours of your time went into finding out that error, don't sell yourself short! :D
Surprisingly few! 😁 I love it when it is easy for a change 😅
So before going to can, decyphering and etc, You didn't checked the fuses? "Good thinking"))))
I hated that car. A million problems, plugged it in for charging, and when trying to drive to work next morning, it wasn't charged
and didn't move one meter. Using the heater in winter, the electronics went haywire, the battery failed and the sorry-mobile was
stranded for 6 month at the dealer.. Then the front window cracked during winter, so I Gave it away, for free
This is sad to hear.
Well done! I did get my 2013 lithium Th!nk City driving again (faulty Traction Inverter Module) but it is still spontaneously losing power while driving and charging. Have been struggling for months to find the problem through SavvyCAN. So guidance to find the fault would be greatly appreciated. Here we.tl/t-uxqrNQFPH9 you can find the .trc file of my car driving and losing power.
Make a post on the think forum nd lets continue there! Link in description!
ALWAYS CHECK ALL FUSES. EVEN without knowing about electrical stuff :) Just beep beep beep the crap out of them :)