Sorry for the late upload. I forgot to hit the publish button, apparently. If you want to see what other camera gear I'm using check this out: bit.ly/BvSGear
Jay has joined my Winston (mk1) too recently. I’ve not used it in anger yet but it perfectly fills the void for carry on or longer hikes that is left when Winston is just inconvenient. A thought that occurred to me watching this is if you have a mk2 Winston you should be able to just swap the legs over and have the taller reach and levelling base (I don’t use the center column)
There are a ton of tripods, that have a leveling base. Starts with the smallest of its kind, the Manfrotto Befree Live, and goes all the way up to big, heavy duty tripods from Sachtler and Vinten.
What is praised here as "unique" you will find at Novoflex for decades (all legs removable). Novoflex even sells their set of legs (without the "shoulder") separately. Unfortunately (as much as I like Novoflex' products) they are very expensive (but high quality)! 🤔
Leveling tripods are good in theory. But I rarely shoot panos with the horizon dead center. I usually tilt the camera slightly up or down, depending on whether the sky or foreground is more compelling. So, I "level" my camera based on the center of my composition. Then I swing left and take exposures moving left to right. As long as I use medium-length focal length and shoot vertically, no problems getting a straight, well-stitched pano. Oh, and I always compose to leave room for cropping.
It's not the only one of it's kind. The Leofoto Ranger LS-284CEX is also a travel tripod with levelling base. It doesn't fold down as small as the 3lt Jay however as it is 52cm folded whereas the 3lt Jay is only 40.5cm making it much more travel friendly.
Check out Novoflex they offer a "camera supporting system" (as they call it). You can buy "shoulder" and legs separately as you need it. Sure Novoflex is very expensive (but great quality)! 🤔What is called here "unique" (to remove all legs) isn't because Novoflex is offering this for decades! 😛
Hey, Brendan...I've been using a leveling base for a while, and just recently bought the iFootage TC5 mainly because it has a built-in leveling base (very much like the 3LT Jay and Mike), and it's small enough to be a traveling tripod. Doesn't fold up quite as small as the Jay (about 21"), but then again, it's max height is closer to 59" (with the center column extended). The center column can be removed so that you can lower the tripod to about 7". For my needs, I don't need the removable legs, and I also like that the iFootage has spikes that are retractable (don't need to change feet). And, hey, they're cheaper too! Enjoying your AZ/UT videos. Heading there in May, will be seeing many of the same locations you're at. Are you heading to the Wave?
Can you not put the legs from the Winston 2 on the top section of the Legend ? The thread is the same so they should fit. You then have a taller Legend.
It's ok that you're not cool...most people aren't! I enjoy your content and hope, someday, to meet you on one of your workshops. So far, they haven't worked out with my family vacation plans, but I have high hopes for 2021. And I can't help but laugh every time you say something great about "Jay".
I keep my tripods in checked luggage. Security in Naples, Italy would not let me take it with me in carry on. There was no time to go check it (since security takes forever there) so I had to film Paris hand held. No way I'm giving them a $500 tripod on this next trip.
Hello Brendan, Thanks for the detailed review I’m getting ready to order the Mike version with the Cine Head was wondering how the Jay Performed as a monopod using the Vanz boost feet not sure if you had any experience with that. ?
I purchased a Brian Punk tripod for me and a Corey Punk tripod for a friend in Dec 2018 after watching a ton of different reviews on them . The one from 3 Blind Men and an Elephant was the one that sealed the deal . In hindsight I maybe should have bought the Winston considering the size of my lens , but I usually shoot landscapes with shorter , lighter lenses . They have been fantastic and while the cost for me here in Canada would be quite high , the last full-size beast that I bought was my Slik 700 dx back in the 90s - so this one will last 25-30 years . The Winston 2.0 is on my radar , unless the release one like it with the leveling base and the great video head ( for when I do video work and need the fluid head ). I would rather someone recommend something that they feel passionately about and in turn get some type of sponsorship , than not . Be honest , don’t be a mouthpiece for a company if the product is suspect . A 40 year Canon or Nikon shooter is going to recommend that same camera 99% of the time , same as a Chevy , Ford or Dodge guy is going to stick the that brand . They know it well and will discuss the good things about it .
The Jay legs/kit are a very good bit of kit. But it comes at a premium price. Here in the UK the sticks alone are £449. Kit (cine head) = £679. Last year I bought the LEOFOTO Ranger LS-324CEX Carbon fibre tripod with the Leofoto BV-10M video head. A bit bigger than the Jay. I would say as well spec'd as the Jay - but these premium legs cost me £359 and the video head £183 (total £543). This is a good all-rounder. I wouldn't mind the Jaykit but could not justify it's price just for travel use and it's not compelling enough for me to want to sell the Leofoto.
It'll be great to see a video from Antelope Canyon now that they've done away with the photographers package. I think I may head out there in March to check it out.
I have really shit luck with tripods, so I am thinking of getting three legged thing Travis, from the punks range, Have you ever tried the punks range, I shoot with a Fujifilm XT30 and 55-200mm, and do landscapes, waterfalls the usual stuff.
Not sure if that setup is correct? Having a bowl base and then fitting a ball head onto it seems wrong as the ballhead would have to be adjusted 100% level over the horizon for the bowl base and its level to be effective. In other words you would have to level the bowl and then also level the ballhead..... hence the reason why the tripod company supplied the video head.
Great video, good luck with the tripods, I have had one from a known company, and so far pretty much everything went wrong that could, so to see another type of tripod.
@@BrendanvanSon Thanks, they sent replacement out and within 2 minutes, part of the leg section snapped, Sad thing is its not a non name company either, so have pretty much cut my losses and cant be bothered anymore.
This. Why settle for a tripod with someone else's name on it. Go sit down with 3 legged thing with the specs you need and have them make the Brendan! They already use human first name for their product, so win win.
New tripods. 😁 I should get a new one, but I'm getting by with my old one, I don't use them as much as I used too. I did get a new mobile phone gimbal, maybe my videos will be smoother, just need to do a video. I see you got the weird hand thing going on with the 360 selfie stick. Cheers.
I haven't tested them at all. So, take this with a grain of salt... But, they look way over-priced and the center column looks extremely unstable. Let's just say that I wouldn't buy it. BUT, again, I'm only going on other videos I've seen, not personal testing.
Brendan van Son I have a carbon fiber one. I also have a 3lt Cory. The pd tripod is super stable. But yes, expensive. It’s good when you need to travel small and light.
Brendan...I'm curious as to how many of these value CF tripods have you gone through in the last 5 years because they just don't work like they did brand new? My understanding, as you stated near the end of the vid, is that you don't pay for tripods, but still curious how many have broken to the point you have to swap out.
Hey dude! I haven't swapped any out. I brought one in for repair because I didn't clean it after being in the sea. 3LT has a good warranty. If something goes wrong with it, they'll repair it for free for years and years.
When you turn Jay into a tabletop tripod, could you use it as a base & put a leg on it with a head on top? They look very well made. I can see why they are priced as they are.
Hey Mark, just to jump in here - yes you can do that, so the levelling base becomes a sort of foot stabiliser for the monopod. We're in the process of making some new how-to videos, and that will be one of them.
I got the Travis the other day as a beater and despite liking the legs the ball head is pretty crappy to use...and thats coming from an amateur thats not picky about gear. Its difficult to get tight enough to hold my XT3 with decent size lenses and it feels less secure than my $50 bargain no namer. I can crank the little knob all the way down and still move my camera around easily. Also, I realized when I got home the little level fell off of the head somehow despite being carried from my truck, setup in place, and then put back in box. I realize its a cheap tripod, big picture, but they marketed it as their entry level tripod that was as good or better than other professional tripods from other companies. Maybe someone can recommend another one but for now it didnt inspire confidence for my gear and its going back to amazon. Looks cool though!
@@BrendanvanSon Nice to know that Brenden. I live in Portugal, and come from Oman. I live in Evora and you can visit me any time you feel to hang out for a sip of Coffee .. Welcome to Portugal
3 Legged Thing should sell a set of legs separately (like Novoflex does)! This way you could buy lets say Jay and mount the legs of Winston or Mike on it. When traveling and you only need one tripod (but you'd like some flexibility) just take the other set of legs with you! 🤔
Had a Three Legged Thing called Brian, one of the first models to come out. What piece of junk, used it once and sold it. It was too flimsy and wouldn't hold 4kg never mind the stated 20kg. Hope their newer products have improved as they aren't cheap.
Patti is one hell of a female, and Zayla, Zelda, Ellie are also representing the XX chromosome :) Not to mention that more that of the 50% of our workforce are female (and in high power positions), I think that might be a record in the photo and film industry.
Ypu might not get paid directly but the thousands of dollars in equipment is payment.I’m notsaying that it influences your reviews as you are using them all the time in your videos and for me that’s more important than what you say in your reviews.
Sorry for the late upload. I forgot to hit the publish button, apparently.
If you want to see what other camera gear I'm using check this out: bit.ly/BvSGear
How would the winston 2.0 handle a heavy 300 f/2.8 lense? Would I bet better off going with the JAY?
a trick: you can watch series at kaldrostream. Been using it for watching lots of of movies lately.
@Roy Bradley Yup, I have been watching on KaldroStream for months myself :D
@Roy Bradley definitely, have been using kaldrostream for years myself :D
@Roy Bradley Yea, have been watching on KaldroStream for years myself =)
Just got Jay and for me and my style it is absolutely perfect. 3 legged things have become my go to!
Jay has joined my Winston (mk1) too recently. I’ve not used it in anger yet but it perfectly fills the void for carry on or longer hikes that is left when Winston is just inconvenient. A thought that occurred to me watching this is if you have a mk2 Winston you should be able to just swap the legs over and have the taller reach and levelling base (I don’t use the center column)
There are a ton of tripods, that have a leveling base. Starts with the smallest of its kind, the Manfrotto Befree Live, and goes all the way up to big, heavy duty tripods from Sachtler and Vinten.
yeah but paid+biased promotions these days don't have any space for real reviews or comparisons.
What is praised here as "unique" you will find at Novoflex for decades (all legs removable). Novoflex even sells their set of legs (without the "shoulder") separately. Unfortunately (as much as I like Novoflex' products) they are very expensive (but high quality)! 🤔
Leveling tripods are good in theory. But I rarely shoot panos with the horizon dead center. I usually tilt the camera slightly up or down, depending on whether the sky or foreground is more compelling.
So, I "level" my camera based on the center of my composition. Then I swing left and take exposures moving left to right. As long as I use medium-length focal length and shoot vertically, no problems getting a straight, well-stitched pano. Oh, and I always compose to leave room for cropping.
It's not the only one of it's kind. The Leofoto Ranger LS-284CEX is also a travel tripod with levelling base. It doesn't fold down as small as the 3lt Jay however as it is 52cm folded whereas the 3lt Jay is only 40.5cm making it much more travel friendly.
Check out Novoflex they offer a "camera supporting system" (as they call it). You can buy "shoulder" and legs separately as you need it. Sure Novoflex is very expensive (but great quality)! 🤔What is called here "unique" (to remove all legs) isn't because Novoflex is offering this for decades! 😛
Hey, Brendan...I've been using a leveling base for a while, and just recently bought the iFootage TC5 mainly because it has a built-in leveling base (very much like the 3LT Jay and Mike), and it's small enough to be a traveling tripod. Doesn't fold up quite as small as the Jay (about 21"), but then again, it's max height is closer to 59" (with the center column extended). The center column can be removed so that you can lower the tripod to about 7". For my needs, I don't need the removable legs, and I also like that the iFootage has spikes that are retractable (don't need to change feet). And, hey, they're cheaper too! Enjoying your AZ/UT videos. Heading there in May, will be seeing many of the same locations you're at. Are you heading to the Wave?
Great video and those 3 Legged tripods looks amazing. Maybe I have to buy one.
Can you not put the legs from the Winston 2 on the top section of the Legend ? The thread is the same so they should fit. You then have a taller Legend.
You are a genius!
I get called a lot of things but rarely that.
Just got my first TLT gear this week. The Ellie PD L Bracket.... So far loving it. If I didn't have other tripods already I might consider it.
It's ok that you're not cool...most people aren't! I enjoy your content and hope, someday, to meet you on one of your workshops. So far, they haven't worked out with my family vacation plans, but I have high hopes for 2021.
And I can't help but laugh every time you say something great about "Jay".
Mikes are pretty awesome...
When you say Mike, do you mean Mike Perea hahaha because Mike is extra special! Another informative video.
Who doesn't love a Jay... LOL I'm so happy I made such an influence on you :)
I keep my tripods in checked luggage. Security in Naples, Italy would not let me take it with me in carry on. There was no time to go check it (since security takes forever there) so I had to film Paris hand held. No way I'm giving them a $500 tripod on this next trip.
Hello Brendan,
Thanks for the detailed review I’m getting ready to order the Mike version with the Cine Head was wondering how the Jay Performed as a monopod using the Vanz boost feet not sure if you had any experience with that. ?
The Novoflex Triobalance has been around for a while; check it out and its features may surprise you.
Cool review mate.... waiting for my PD Carbon to arrive from Kickstarter.... maybe I’ll even do “another” review of it Hahaa 👍😎
I purchased a Brian Punk tripod for me and a Corey Punk tripod for a friend in Dec 2018 after watching a ton of different reviews on them . The one from 3 Blind Men and an Elephant was the one that sealed the deal . In hindsight I maybe should have bought the Winston considering the size of my lens , but I usually shoot landscapes with shorter , lighter lenses .
They have been fantastic and while the cost for me here in Canada would be quite high , the last full-size beast that I bought was my Slik 700 dx back in the 90s - so this one will last 25-30 years .
The Winston 2.0 is on my radar , unless the release one like it with the leveling base and the great video head ( for when I do video work and need the fluid head ).
I would rather someone recommend something that they feel passionately about and in turn get some type of sponsorship , than not . Be honest , don’t be a mouthpiece for a company if the product is suspect .
A 40 year Canon or Nikon shooter is going to recommend that same camera 99% of the time , same as a Chevy , Ford or Dodge guy is going to stick the that brand . They know it well and will discuss the good things about it .
Ifootage also have a travel levelling base tripod,
Bowl heads have been around for a few years now, it does the same thing.
@@kadaberkz yeah Ive been looking at the ifootage one for a while now.theyve had it for years like you say
Really useful as I’m looking to change to a lighter tripod ! I’ll be interested to hear what you say about mike.
It's always cool to see a video of yours B
Thanks for watching Pablo!
I love 3LT and my “Travis” tripod was the most I could afford now. That ‘Jay’ is pretty cool though. :)
Travis is a really good one! Glad you're enjoying the gear!
The Jay legs/kit are a very good bit of kit. But it comes at a premium price. Here in the UK the sticks alone are £449. Kit (cine head) = £679. Last year I bought the LEOFOTO Ranger LS-324CEX Carbon fibre tripod with the Leofoto BV-10M video head. A bit bigger than the Jay. I would say as well spec'd as the Jay - but these premium legs cost me £359 and the video head £183 (total £543). This is a good all-rounder. I wouldn't mind the Jaykit but could not justify it's price just for travel use and it's not compelling enough for me to want to sell the Leofoto.
It'll be great to see a video from Antelope Canyon now that they've done away with the photographers package. I think I may head out there in March to check it out.
Hey Brendan... Thinking about upgrading the airhed neo on my Billy and considering the Airhed pro. You ever have any creep or issues with it?
I have really shit luck with tripods, so I am thinking of getting three legged thing Travis, from the punks range, Have you ever tried the punks range, I shoot with a Fujifilm XT30 and 55-200mm, and do landscapes, waterfalls the usual stuff.
I've never used them. But, Jodie has and does like it. I think it'll be fine with an XT30, though.
@@BrendanvanSon Thanks Brendan appreciate it!
Would you happen to have a discount code as part of the pro team? I'm thinking of picking up Jay but the price point is not so lovely.
Not sure if that setup is correct?
Having a bowl base and then fitting a ball head onto it seems wrong as the ballhead would have to be adjusted 100% level over the horizon for the bowl base and its level to be effective.
In other words you would have to level the bowl and then also level the ballhead..... hence the reason why the tripod company supplied the video head.
I mean, yeah. But, you can always just level the head :D
@@BrendanvanSon yeah, true but it is also a doubling up I think.
Well if it works for you then that's all that counts. The tripods look great btw.
Thanks for the review. It's hard to judge tripods without getting hands on. And I Love/Hate that 360 camera.....
Great video, good luck with the tripods, I have had one from a known company, and so far pretty much everything went wrong that could, so to see another type of tripod.
Oh no. Hopefully they sort you out with a fix!
@@BrendanvanSon Thanks, they sent replacement out and within 2 minutes, part of the leg section snapped, Sad thing is its not a non name company either, so have pretty much cut my losses and cant be bothered anymore.
3 legged Brendan!!!!!!! 😂If I buy Mike the Legend, my name is already on it!
Hahaha, perfect. I want a Mike.
This. Why settle for a tripod with someone else's name on it. Go sit down with 3 legged thing with the specs you need and have them make the Brendan! They already use human first name for their product, so win win.
I have a Nigel ......................... It was the only choice :-)
Hi,I’m japanese.I like traveling.And I’m studying English to speak well.So I enjoyed watching your movies!!
Haha, you ARE COOL! Loved that intro!
Maximum height of 1.1 meters?? Must be difficult if you have a bad back or knees.
Agreed I was about to Pull the trigger until I read that 😩. The other is not compact enough
Amazing video 👍🏼👌🏼
New tripods. 😁
I should get a new one, but I'm getting by with my old one, I don't use them as much as I used too.
I did get a new mobile phone gimbal, maybe my videos will be smoother, just need to do a video.
I see you got the weird hand thing going on with the 360 selfie stick.
Cheers.
Leo is hard to beat for truely agile travel 👍👍
Yup. I love Leo. A little too short for me. But so good for hikes and such
Thoughts on the Peak design Tripods?
I haven't tested them at all. So, take this with a grain of salt... But, they look way over-priced and the center column looks extremely unstable. Let's just say that I wouldn't buy it. BUT, again, I'm only going on other videos I've seen, not personal testing.
Brendan van Son I have a carbon fiber one. I also have a 3lt Cory. The pd tripod is super stable. But yes, expensive. It’s good when you need to travel small and light.
Brendan...I'm curious as to how many of these value CF tripods have you gone through in the last 5 years because they just don't work like they did brand new? My understanding, as you stated near the end of the vid, is that you don't pay for tripods, but still curious how many have broken to the point you have to swap out.
Hey dude!
I haven't swapped any out. I brought one in for repair because I didn't clean it after being in the sea.
3LT has a good warranty. If something goes wrong with it, they'll repair it for free for years and years.
@@BrendanvanSon Thanks for the info. You've definitely had better luck than I.
When you turn Jay into a tabletop tripod, could you use it as a base & put a leg on it with a head on top?
They look very well made. I can see why they are priced as they are.
Yes. I think so. But, I haven't tried it. I might try a hyperlapse video at some point and I'd set it up like that.
@@BrendanvanSon Cool, thanks. Hope to see that hyperlapse at some point!
Hey Mark, just to jump in here - yes you can do that, so the levelling base becomes a sort of foot stabiliser for the monopod. We're in the process of making some new how-to videos, and that will be one of them.
@@3leggedthing Nice, thank you!
I got the Travis the other day as a beater and despite liking the legs the ball head is pretty crappy to use...and thats coming from an amateur thats not picky about gear. Its difficult to get tight enough to hold my XT3 with decent size lenses and it feels less secure than my $50 bargain no namer. I can crank the little knob all the way down and still move my camera around easily. Also, I realized when I got home the little level fell off of the head somehow despite being carried from my truck, setup in place, and then put back in box. I realize its a cheap tripod, big picture, but they marketed it as their entry level tripod that was as good or better than other professional tripods from other companies. Maybe someone can recommend another one but for now it didnt inspire confidence for my gear and its going back to amazon. Looks cool though!
BvS Nice overview of jay! Is Jay iceland worthy?
Rip I just bought the Travis a couple months ago!
Thomas heaton uses one tripod that has the same leveling base and i thing he is using since 1 year or so..
THANKYOU...
Did you find Jay was too short since it only goes up to 43 inches? I’m shorter in height so it might be a little too short. What are your thoughts?
Not too short, actually. It didn't really bother me at all.
Brendan van Son thanks. It seems like the best I’ve looked at
No.1 photography
Come on Brendan!! Have you never put attention to Thomas Heaton tripod?
Not a tiny travel tripod. I've used it, I'm not sure it fits in the travel-size category. I think Tom will admit to that.
iFootage Gazelle. Tom Heaton even has one.
Did you say you are based in Portugal?
Not yet. We bought an apartment that's under construction in Lagos. It'll be ready in July, we think.
@@BrendanvanSon Nice to know that Brenden. I live in Portugal, and come from Oman. I live in Evora and you can visit me any time you feel to hang out for a sip of Coffee .. Welcome to Portugal
3 Legged Thing should sell a set of legs separately (like Novoflex does)! This way you could buy lets say Jay and mount the legs of Winston or Mike on it. When traveling and you only need one tripod (but you'd like some flexibility) just take the other set of legs with you! 🤔
Boys and their toys!! :):)
Yeah you need to put your hands on Mike 😂
Had a Three Legged Thing called Brian, one of the first models to come out. What piece of junk, used it once and sold it. It was too flimsy and wouldn't hold 4kg never mind the stated 20kg. Hope their newer products have improved as they aren't cheap.
More importantly when are they making a Brendan ?
Haha, I don't think I'm cool enough yet.
I like the Jay, I'm not sure about getting the hands on Mike.. .and wasn't mike with you on that trip? or Chris was blocking you two all the time?😆😜
New head coming via Kickstarter by Platypod. You may want to look at. platyball-elite-and-ergo
ifootage TA7 or TC7 - lot cheaper than 3LT!
Does Jodie know about Mike and your plans to get hands on? Brendan? 😜❤✌
That invisible stick is so weird.
hey mate question for you about camera straps.... do you ever have straps on your cameras? I think your definition of sexy is a worry too mate haha
keep your hands off mike!!!!! i suggest 3-legged thing introduces female names for their tripods, makes things way less awkward.
Patti is one hell of a female, and Zayla, Zelda, Ellie are also representing the XX chromosome :) Not to mention that more that of the 50% of our workforce are female (and in high power positions), I think that might be a record in the photo and film industry.
You need to b roll the intro + a little slow mo.. ;) hehe
just buy a shoe mount bubble!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Winston is not a good tripod for someone who is 5'5". Hope this helps someone.
Too big. Albert is more height appropriate. Or, Jay or Leo
Ypu might not get paid directly but the thousands of dollars in equipment is payment.I’m notsaying that it influences your reviews as you are using them all the time in your videos and for me that’s more important than what you say in your reviews.
👍🏻 are you donating one to a subscriber in need? 😁