yes but only if they approve of the trade. if i’m the texans. it has to be right for “me” in order for me to trade. i’d get winston or fitzpatrick for the low. and let watson sit out every game if he chose to. not to punish him. but i’d have to get sumn considerably on the level of his talent or better oppose to u trading him for crumbs just because he wants to go. he had no problem taking your money and looking out for him. fair exchange aint robbery
@@1uniquemonique He has a contract, he can't just leave. He can sit, or retire but if he comes back before whatever amount of years they agreed, he's still got to play for the Texans. Texans have all the leverage here, his best hope is that they pull yet another move of extreme incompetence. Which they might, they are one of the worst run organizations in the league. But if I'm them, I do exactly what the previous commentor said and let him sit until he decides he wants to play. He would be a lot older if he sits out the duration of his contract, and I'm certain that after no more than a season, he is going to want to play again, even if it's with the dumb ol Texans.
In this age of twitter shallowness, I appreciate the time these guys take to have an intelligent debate about football while respecting each other as people.
Keep in mind other players are watching how they treat Watson and how they treated hopkins andre jj and foster. Demographics are changing nfl will end up like mlb if they don't adapt
man these guys don’t understand “true” ownership. they think they have leverage because they are talented and they are indeed talented but they don’t move the needle like how “they” think. simply put???? until i own the team or a team??? they’ll never have the lebron type control they think they posses
@@Forw1072 Actually I’m pretty sure they do understand “true” ownership, but what player in the league is currently in a position to attain that ownership? Also... basketball and football are completely different. Horrible comparison. That money (w/ fully guaranteed contracts) and individual influence a person has in basketball is completely different from football. Honest question... what makes you think they don’t understand what “true” ownership is? Should DW not use the leverage he does have to try and propel himself to a better situation if he possibly can?
I think Acho was using that logic, saying DW doesn't want to wind up like all the other Houston greats who 'wasted' their careers there. Wiley was saying 'you knew the situation when you took their money 4 months ago'.
@@MoMoMyPup10 I feel that, but Acho is wrong. The fact that JJ Watt apologized to dude and that a former wide receiver great (forgot his name) chimed in means that something is rotten there. Maybe Deshaun thought the money meant the stuff in the background could change. Or maybe he knew he wanted to leave and wanted the contract (with the clause) as leverage.
@@MoMoMyPup10 And I agree with Wiley, Deshaun signed the contract voluntarily, now wants to bail. Man up dude and uphold your commitments. That's what folks outside fo the NFL bubble have to do every day.
@@timclaus8313 exactly. Sometimes I think these guys are so full of themselves and such prima donna's that it's too easy to be 'disrespected' over any little thing. Have things changed that much since Sept. after committing 5 years to the org., the city, his teammates, and getting a huge signing bonus, that the situation is NOW unmanageable? Not buying it. Sounds like spilled milk to me. Lots of us hate our boss - we deal with it.
I don't know. I like First Take and Stephen A Smith take on this.... something had to happen if he's totally switched over these last 4 months. JJ Watts is on record telling him he needs to get out of Houston and another Houston great is on the record as saying Watson needs to get out... I don't think it's Watson. I really think something was said to him that destroyed the relationship
Wiley sounds ridiculous. The Texans QBs that had the same record all had great defenses and the QB was the problem. Keenum, bortles, all had great defenses. The Texans were last in rushing O AND Rushing D, and they were 24th against the pass. ESPN def efficiency stats of the last 15 years had them 478th out of 480th defenses. W/o Watson that team goes 0-16.
@@kccobbs That was his first full season as a Texans QB...2nd year in the league. If I remember correctly wasn’t Watson both the leading rusher and passer that game? Either way, post season success isn’t always immediate for everyone.
@@bryanmares3830 I wasn’t saying you had bortles. Wiley was pointing out worse QBs from different franchises with similar win/loss records to Watson. I was pointing out guys like Keenum and especially Bortles weren’t the reason those teams won. The defense was. Those guys were game manages at best.
@Jestivius Jovial_Emperor are you serious? Tua has had more serious injuries than Deshaun. They didn't even know if he'd be able to play football again. Deshaun lead the league in yards last year and is a top 5 QB. Tua got benched multiple times for Ryan Fitzpatrick. He got benched in college too. In college and The NFL Tua was a game manager not a playmaker. He was great because he had 4 first round receivers, 1st rd O-Line, dominant defense, etc. Deshaun can make plays with his legs, much bigger arm than Tua, and is a PROVEN commodity.
@@ronaldwilliams6244 the point is he knew he didn’t have anything round him, if that’s the case, when he signed the contract. Now that the check has cleared his tolerance level went from 10 to 1 real quick.
At first I thought Acho was to much when he first appeared, but since Whit left, the dynamic between Acho and Wiley has been great! “truth in the moment”, priceless!!
Two things. 1. Teams don’t honor contracts and release players for cap reasons etc so who cares about his contract. 2. JJ Watt said if you don’t want to be here then leave. He doesn’t want to be there so he’s trying to leave.
Teams do honor their part of the contract. They just lie about loyalty and family. Their only obligation is to have to pay you, even if they decide to trade you
Watson got $27 million at signing. So even if he holds out or sit out as they say, he will be sitting pretty. Fines and penalities are not going to hurt him.
After seeing what happen to leveon bell, I'm playing during my prime. You can miss me with all that "fines aint going to hurt him". I'm about getting everything and anything that's owed to me because i put in work for Years & Years to get to this point... i don't get playing hard ball and losing my money.
@@briankasoziiii4837 exactly, people are acting like Watson is in the NBA. this is the NFL. There going to let him sit players have no leverage in the NFL
People with character and options won't stay in a toxic culture with plantation overtones. He can go to an organization that appreciates every player and does things the right way. They paid a firm to choose Louis Riddick as the new coach and turned and around and opted for Casserio. This after they promised to allow Watkins input to make sure the organization goes in the right direction. GTFOH Wiley!
Fine than he can return the money. He is in the wrong We are not hearing the media giving the Texans side Watson hasn't earned the right to be consulted. he is not Mahomes, Wilson, Brady and Rogers He has never even made it to the conference finals
Cell is talking about Deshaun sitting out until 2028 like that’s a realistic possibility. If his plan is to sit out, they’re going to trade him. When a star player wants to get moved, they get moved, at the end of the day it doesn’t benefit the team to keep him. Organizations always talk like they’re ready to get uncomfortable, it almost never works out.
Wiley lost this one by landside he was talking out of both sides of his mouth the organization doesn't care about Waston and they don't have to but Waston should care about them cause they paid him but its not a big deal that they paid him cause its chump change to them. Waston is going to leave and he should. Also, i think Wiley is underselling the impact on fans if Waston leaves that's gonna hurt the Texans pocketbook in many ways
How did Wiley lose by a landslide when he was explaining that both sides deserved criticism? He actually won cause he was giving the perspective of what the owners thinking
@@dominiquerobinson8888 no he lost Deshaun shouldn't give consideration to owners who don't value him and Wiley was trying to say Deshaun should while still maintiining that the owners don't need him those points contradict each other acho washed him
This is the most balanced convo I’ve heard on this story. I feel deshaun to a degree. But I’ve lowkey been feeling Marcellus before I even saw this to a degree.
After listening to Marcellus and Emmanuel, I had to post. Deshaun, why so early in your career for this show, Deshaun? Can you settle the dust and meet Texans half way? Is leverage a key success factor? Be patient with Texans! All Teams have S.W.O.T.
Watson has a no-trade clause in his contract. He also should have put a "even though I'm under contract I can leave and go to another team if I want to" clause, because ownership can trade or cut you at anytime. 😄
Man, his scandal dropped him off the radar. But if the talks of settlement possibility are true (very conflicting reports), he’s gonna become a huge target again.
Shaft him and make him leave money on table...Who cares what he wants... Who is he to say he needs say... He is an EMPLOYEE cashing checks...let him sit out.. Then if he starts sandbagging you get him hurt..
It’s not just about Watson wanting to win games the easy way. I believe the organization had done him wrong, privately. There’s some bad energy going on inside the Texans management and he’s trying to get out of the burning house before it crumbles
Ocho needs to be the same about Lamar Jackson..or he is just a hater..its not Lamar fault receivers drop balls it's not his fault Greg Roman calls bad plays..lamar does his thing honor that..
He will end up like Calvin Johnson! The Texans will own his right if he retires and try to come out of retirement! Detroit still owns Megatrons right if he was to come out of retirement!
Why don't they just swap QB's with the Eagles. Carson's talented but Philly is too much for him, he'd probably flourish in Houston. And Deshaun would immediately be embraced in Philly and would finally have that spotlight he craves.
Problem is you could get hurt at any time so these dudes gotta secure the long term bag whenever they can. If he didn’t sign long term they’d just tag him over and over and if he suffers a serious injury they can cut they losses. Like Dak Prescott lost a lot of leverage with just that ankle injury so I’m assuming Watson just wanted to make his money.
I think Marcellus Wiley's missing the point about the contact. If Watson Sign that contract Or doesn't Houston Texas will have the control as far as the franchise tag. What is he going to do miss out. My opinion I think Watson was think im sign this contract give an Force a trade
And yo acho you wrong about the jj watt thing we coulda got it done if schuab never got hurt that year was our year for a super bowl and the whole organization would've changed
Why should they trade him because no one made him sign that extension. He knows he can't trust the front office especially after his top receiver was traded. I wouldn't trade him simply because he signed that extension. What is his alternative if they don't trade him other than not play, then he's hurting himself more than he's hurting the Texans
@@irockout9112 what you are felling to realize is the Texans will make $ regardless of if he sits or plays. Watson is the one that will lose money. Barry and Megatron kept resigning with the lions, now I ask whose fault is that. If it were me I would do how Revis did his contracts
@@iknowwhoiam6092 They dont make money if the only thing thats worth watching isnt playing.Other players are watching and the nflpa is too,they will end up like the bengals and nobody will want to be there
There is 2 sides to the Watson Debate by analysts. The FCA side and everyone else. EASTERBY hires Caserio, Dave Culley, Lovie Smith, Pep Hamilton . All outspoken FCA members and men of a certain Faith. Easterby gets rid of superstar talent for nothing that aren't receptive to his brand of FCA leadership. The McNairs look at Millionaire Players as Employees and inmates. What's the best way to make sure your Employees see themselves as SERVANTS FIRST??. This is all an EASTERBY PLAY, With Cal McNairs Blessing. Keep looking up where their off-season signings land on the FCA belief spectrum and it won't be hard to figure out. It's not about Talent alone. It's about Faith 1st, then Talent. They want the most talented FCA talent they can get, not the most Talented or Gifted Athletes.
Texans are horrible now the passing offense was first in ypa thanks to Watson, team barely gets to 1000 team rushing yards if you take out Watsons rushing, and the defense OMG it’s horrible this defense was the sole reason The King Henry is over 2000 yards, they intercepted a total of 3 ints one of them being JJ Watt, 4th worst in pass defense per attempt along with giving up 5.2 per rush easily worst in the league This team is so awful once he leaves there gonna turn into the pre- Matthew Stafford Lions where rookies will be upset to be drafted by this organization
Lol people act like the nfl is like the nba you don't sign they franchise you ask dak what happens when you get franchise tag it don't end well take the guaranteed money and then get out it's common sense
And he cant Force the Texans to TRADE him !! Since when do players Elite or not get to tell the Organization who made him less then a Year ago the 2nd highest Paid QB in the NFL !! Play Football we drafted him paid him and now he's making demands that no QB except for Tom Brady can ask for !!!! Bill O'Brien is the most directly to Blame for the TEXANS problems not Cullen , Not Caserio they want to become SB Champions with him under Center . Thats it period sit and lose money or play and MAN UP !!
he is the reason for your wins,if he just pulls a Harden you have nothing.Just trade him get picks like the jets and get fields or maybe the jags and get Lawrence
He signed the deal....I'm tried of these crying millionaire no trade pay me all my dam money 💰 back and that signing bonus...and I will think about... +4...1st round picks and a superstar. I don't know what they doing down there Texas with these players to think they're gods he's on my hater list now too along with James Harding
So Watson should just be cool with Texans terrible management wasting away years of his career? It’s pretty easy to see why he’d quickly regret signing on with the team and do what he can to get out. They are never gonna succeed with a QB who hates the team it just won’t work. He’s been doing his end of the bargain by being a top QB in the league and they aren’t doing their jobs by putting a good team around him and making terrible decisions like trading Hopkins, letting a preacher influence the team, lying to their franchise player about his input on the team, etc. When Andre Johnson a legend of the team is coming out and supporting Watson you know this team is truly terrible. It doesn’t matter if they paid him that because literally any team would give him that contract and more. They did him no favors he did THEM a favor by signing. They did nothing to deserve him.
Wiley speaking straight facts. If I was the Texan’s I would tell him to return his money and tear up the contract and he can walk as a free agent. Seems like he wants it both ways. To keep his money and go where he chooses.
Greenbay get deshun watson .get a black quarterback. Capitalize . Be diverse greenbay get a black quarterback . yall the nfl and packers are suspect for not in a 100 years not trying to get a black quarterback. I mean who wouldn't want to see a great black quarterback on the packers thats super hot an on brady or rodgers level.
Should the Texans honor Deshaun Watson's trade demand?
Yeah
Nope 🙅🏻
yes but only if they approve of the trade. if i’m the texans. it has to be right for “me” in order for me to trade. i’d get winston or fitzpatrick for the low. and let watson sit out every game if he chose to. not to punish him. but i’d have to get sumn considerably on the level of his talent or better oppose to u trading him for crumbs just because he wants to go. he had no problem taking your money and looking out for him. fair exchange aint robbery
Absolutely. In fact, DeShawn should have left when they got rid of DeAndre Hopkins. But I can understand why he decided to stay.
@@1uniquemonique He has a contract, he can't just leave. He can sit, or retire but if he comes back before whatever amount of years they agreed, he's still got to play for the Texans. Texans have all the leverage here, his best hope is that they pull yet another move of extreme incompetence. Which they might, they are one of the worst run organizations in the league. But if I'm them, I do exactly what the previous commentor said and let him sit until he decides he wants to play. He would be a lot older if he sits out the duration of his contract, and I'm certain that after no more than a season, he is going to want to play again, even if it's with the dumb ol Texans.
In this age of twitter shallowness, I appreciate the time these guys take to have an intelligent debate about football while respecting each other as people.
Keep in mind other players are watching how they treat Watson and how they treated hopkins andre jj and foster. Demographics are changing nfl will end up like mlb if they don't adapt
man these guys don’t understand “true” ownership. they think they have leverage because they are talented and they are indeed talented but they don’t move the needle like how “they” think. simply put???? until i own the team or a team??? they’ll never have the lebron type control they think they posses
@@Forw1072 they don't understand it but you do lol
@@cortezwatson9934 he really does ... lmao 😂
@Mr.Supreme he is still with houston until he is not lol them dudes on the wrong end of the table bro
@@Forw1072 Actually I’m pretty sure they do understand “true” ownership, but what player in the league is currently in a position to attain that ownership? Also... basketball and football are completely different. Horrible comparison. That money (w/ fully guaranteed contracts) and individual influence a person has in basketball is completely different from football. Honest question... what makes you think they don’t understand what “true” ownership is? Should DW not use the leverage he does have to try and propel himself to a better situation if he possibly can?
Wiley is assuming that Watson wants to leave because of something on the field. Probably something happened behind closed doors
I think Acho was using that logic, saying DW doesn't want to wind up like all the other Houston greats who 'wasted' their careers there. Wiley was saying 'you knew the situation when you took their money 4 months ago'.
@@MoMoMyPup10 I feel that, but Acho is wrong. The fact that JJ Watt apologized to dude and that a former wide receiver great (forgot his name) chimed in means that something is rotten there. Maybe Deshaun thought the money meant the stuff in the background could change. Or maybe he knew he wanted to leave and wanted the contract (with the clause) as leverage.
duh
@@MoMoMyPup10 And I agree with Wiley, Deshaun signed the contract voluntarily, now wants to bail. Man up dude and uphold your commitments. That's what folks outside fo the NFL bubble have to do every day.
@@timclaus8313 exactly. Sometimes I think these guys are so full of themselves and such prima donna's that it's too easy to be 'disrespected' over any little thing. Have things changed that much since Sept. after committing 5 years to the org., the city, his teammates, and getting a huge signing bonus, that the situation is NOW unmanageable? Not buying it. Sounds like spilled milk to me. Lots of us hate our boss - we deal with it.
I don't know. I like First Take and Stephen A Smith take on this.... something had to happen if he's totally switched over these last 4 months. JJ Watts is on record telling him he needs to get out of Houston and another Houston great is on the record as saying Watson needs to get out...
I don't think it's Watson. I really think something was said to him that destroyed the relationship
Me to their is more to this story
Wiley talking out the side of his neck today. I thought it was whitlock up there for a second. I turned it off. Get at him Acho
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Someone had to be bad cop. I don’t think Achi could keep a straight face bsing the entire segment
Wiley sounds ridiculous. The Texans QBs that had the same record all had great defenses and the QB was the problem. Keenum, bortles, all had great defenses. The Texans were last in rushing O AND Rushing D, and they were 24th against the pass. ESPN def efficiency stats of the last 15 years had them 478th out of 480th defenses. W/o Watson that team goes 0-16.
Watson had a top 5 defense in 2018 and went 1 and done while scoring 7 points
We never had Blake bortles Jacksonville did then he backed up rams
@@kccobbs That was his first full season as a Texans QB...2nd year in the league. If I remember correctly wasn’t Watson both the leading rusher and passer that game? Either way, post season success isn’t always immediate for everyone.
@@brandonfrancis2531 Wilson, Dak, Mahomes went farther in season and in the playoffs with worse overall rosters
@@bryanmares3830 I wasn’t saying you had bortles. Wiley was pointing out worse QBs from different franchises with similar win/loss records to Watson. I was pointing out guys like Keenum and especially Bortles weren’t the reason those teams won. The defense was. Those guys were game manages at best.
Wiley that guy that says i don't think its racism because it never happen to me my good friends is white
Naw. Wiley was speaking the truth.
C'mon man, this ain't about race.
Wiley if he has the same record as those bad QB's then shouldn't the Texans be OK trading him? They'll get a HAUL for him
Because the Texans didn't just hand over a $27 million check to those other guys.
@@MoMoMyPup10 give them Tua, Miami's 3rd and 18th picks, and maybe even next year's first. That's a HAUL. I'd do it tbh
@@DariusClarkWallace that's where they start there giving up way more than that
@@joshscharf4230 not if Deshaun says trade me or I'm not reporting
@Jestivius Jovial_Emperor are you serious? Tua has had more serious injuries than Deshaun. They didn't even know if he'd be able to play football again. Deshaun lead the league in yards last year and is a top 5 QB. Tua got benched multiple times for Ryan Fitzpatrick. He got benched in college too. In college and The NFL Tua was a game manager not a playmaker. He was great because he had 4 first round receivers, 1st rd O-Line, dominant defense, etc. Deshaun can make plays with his legs, much bigger arm than Tua, and is a PROVEN commodity.
These 2 guys are amazing humans
I have a feeling something happened behind closed doors, because there are more players wanting out. I bet the details will be coming out soon
If all those QB’s are better than Watson let him go and get one of those other QBs then ... 🤷🏾♂️
Lmao
Dam you know what Cell is lowkey right tho and no one wants to admit it
Yep
Nope, this not tennis and he has nothing around him
@@ronaldwilliams6244 the point is he knew he didn’t have anything round him, if that’s the case, when he signed the contract.
Now that the check has cleared his tolerance level went from 10 to 1 real quick.
I agree with Wiley on this topic
I LOVEEE this show!!!!
I watch these two as much as I can, my ninjas ✊🏾
At first I thought Acho was to much when he first appeared, but since Whit left, the dynamic between Acho and Wiley has been great! “truth in the moment”, priceless!!
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Two things.
1. Teams don’t honor contracts and release players for cap reasons etc so who cares about his contract.
2. JJ Watt said if you don’t want to be here then leave. He doesn’t want to be there so he’s trying to leave.
Teams do honor their part of the contract. They just lie about loyalty and family. Their only obligation is to have to pay you, even if they decide to trade you
Great show guys
Nice.... I don't have 1 ounce of sympathy for Watson. He signed that deal AFTER they got rid of Hopkins.
@@alisaroberts5667 No thats for the nba not nfl
Watson got $27 million at signing. So even if he holds out or sit out as they say, he will be sitting pretty. Fines and penalities are not going to hurt him.
After seeing what happen to leveon bell, I'm playing during my prime. You can miss me with all that "fines aint going to hurt him". I'm about getting everything and anything that's owed to me because i put in work for Years & Years to get to this point... i don't get playing hard ball and losing my money.
@@briankasoziiii4837 exactly, people are acting like Watson is in the NBA. this is the NFL. There going to let him sit players have no leverage in the NFL
The play here for Texans is to tell Watson to wave his no trade clause.
Wiley say he gone keep it " 1 Thou wow" !! You know it's real when a buck ain't enough 🤣🤣🤣
holy sh/t, these two guys level of debate is crazy high energy LOL
Wiley act like he could have said no and they would actually let him go to free agency. What world are you living in?
Agree with Acho for ones
People with character and options won't stay in a toxic culture with plantation overtones. He can go to an organization that appreciates every player and does things the right way. They paid a firm to choose Louis Riddick as the new coach and turned and around and opted for Casserio. This after they promised to allow Watkins input to make sure the organization goes in the right direction. GTFOH Wiley!
Fine than he can return the money.
He is in the wrong
We are not hearing the media giving the Texans side
Watson hasn't earned the right to be consulted. he is not Mahomes, Wilson, Brady and Rogers
He has never even made it to the conference finals
Wiley’s take on this is ridiculous.
I like their style. It's different and that usual comparisons but it works
Acho where was that "bad translation" take for Dak Prescott 🤔
I would hate to seem him end up like Rivers.....
Marcellus got some good points. 🙄
No he don’t. If you’re from Houston then you should know the ownership is the problem still stuck in there ways
Marcellus being slow for no reason
Cell is talking about Deshaun sitting out until 2028 like that’s a realistic possibility. If his plan is to sit out, they’re going to trade him. When a star player wants to get moved, they get moved, at the end of the day it doesn’t benefit the team to keep him. Organizations always talk like they’re ready to get uncomfortable, it almost never works out.
Wiley lost this one by landside he was talking out of both sides of his mouth the organization doesn't care about Waston and they don't have to but Waston should care about them cause they paid him but its not a big deal that they paid him cause its chump change to them. Waston is going to leave and he should. Also, i think Wiley is underselling the impact on fans if Waston leaves that's gonna hurt the Texans pocketbook in many ways
How did Wiley lose by a landslide when he was explaining that both sides deserved criticism? He actually won cause he was giving the perspective of what the owners thinking
@@dominiquerobinson8888 no he lost Deshaun shouldn't give consideration to owners who don't value him and Wiley was trying to say Deshaun should while still maintiining that the owners don't need him those points contradict each other acho washed him
This is the most balanced convo I’ve heard on this story.
I feel deshaun to a degree. But I’ve lowkey been feeling Marcellus before I even saw this to a degree.
It's more too this story. It's more than what was said. It will come out...
After listening to Marcellus and Emmanuel, I had to post. Deshaun, why so early in your career for this show, Deshaun? Can you settle the dust and meet Texans half way? Is leverage a key success factor? Be patient with Texans! All Teams have S.W.O.T.
You comparing Watson to Bums!
i love this show !!!!
This is some good stuff
Wiley been saying what I said. Why sign the contract in the first place?
Watson has a no-trade clause in his contract. He also should have put a "even though I'm under contract I can leave and go to another team if I want to" clause, because ownership can trade or cut you at anytime. 😄
Wiley filled in perfectly for Whitlock with his ignorant takes
He has already collected 3 years worth of the new contract and is entering into year 2 of the contract. Watson is not going anywhere.
One thing for sure, Marcellus is always going to side with ownership.
They dooooo at 5:01
Deshaun Watson did not learn from the mistakes of others because he resigned with the Texans
Man, his scandal dropped him off the radar. But if the talks of settlement possibility are true (very conflicting reports), he’s gonna become a huge target again.
Shaft him and make him leave money on table...Who cares what he wants... Who is he to say he needs say... He is an EMPLOYEE cashing checks...let him sit out.. Then if he starts sandbagging you get him hurt..
It’s not just about Watson wanting to win games the easy way. I believe the organization had done him wrong, privately. There’s some bad energy going on inside the Texans management and he’s trying to get out of the burning house before it crumbles
They traded Hopkins so that they could pay him his money lol! Deshaun Watson is just a punk.
Ocho needs to be the same about Lamar Jackson..or he is just a hater..its not Lamar fault receivers drop balls it's not his fault Greg Roman calls bad plays..lamar does his thing honor that..
Fine. Disability benefits don't happen for people like me.
Why dont nfl players sign 1 year deals more often?
Texans might hold all the cards but if the hand is not played right then what good is it to hold all the cards
And Watson has to look at his career because if u can't win and when your contract is up your value goes down
I feel like
whoever is angry could get recompensated.
if acho stays single we will see who laughs last
Retire then come out of retirement
They still hold rights for contrzfr length ... also has to pay back 21 million
He will end up like Calvin Johnson! The Texans will own his right if he retires and try to come out of retirement! Detroit still owns Megatrons right if he was to come out of retirement!
I didn't like seeing that female judge sentence her former classmate.
He was black.
49ers
BEARS 🐻
If Deshaun Watson didn't sign an extension he would just get franchise tagged like Dak has been the past 2 years
Dak got tagged once and the player has to sign the tag or go else where.
So what will be said when he changes teams and still comes up short?
He came up short ... 🤷🏾♂️
Why don't they just swap QB's with the Eagles. Carson's talented but Philly is too much for him, he'd probably flourish in Houston. And Deshaun would immediately be embraced in Philly and would finally have that spotlight he craves.
Deshaun Watson played himself when he signed an extension with Houston. He knew the organization wasn't right way before then
Problem is you could get hurt at any time so these dudes gotta secure the long term bag whenever they can. If he didn’t sign long term they’d just tag him over and over and if he suffers a serious injury they can cut they losses. Like Dak Prescott lost a lot of leverage with just that ankle injury so I’m assuming Watson just wanted to make his money.
@@AaryaPulijala Maybe so, but it's a bad way of handling things that could come back and bite him in the end
no offense but what is to say that he only sign that contract because he was promised he would have a voice
Watson is Harden of football
I think Marcellus Wiley's missing the point about the contact. If Watson Sign that contract Or doesn't Houston Texas will have the control as far as the franchise tag. What is he going to do miss out. My opinion I think Watson was think im sign this contract give an Force a trade
If that was Deshauns plan then he was being just as dishonorable as the Texans and shouldn’t be playing victim
Marcellus is the black skip bayless lol except he actually made it to the pro's
Wiley is fox news of sports
@Earl Hawks facts lol
Dawg. Dude at least has good points. he ain't just hating on some Skip Bayless ish.
The producers scripted him stupid!
Done with Wiley
Wiley > Acho
What lies did he tell?
And yo acho you wrong about the jj watt thing we coulda got it done if schuab never got hurt that year was our year for a super bowl and the whole organization would've changed
Come on jets
Why should they trade him because no one made him sign that extension. He knows he can't trust the front office especially after his top receiver was traded. I wouldn't trade him simply because he signed that extension. What is his alternative if they don't trade him other than not play, then he's hurting himself more than he's hurting the Texans
he could just do a calvin or barry sanders and the Texans will be like the bengals and lions.The franchise will be ruined and nobody would want to go
@@irockout9112 what you are felling to realize is the Texans will make $ regardless of if he sits or plays. Watson is the one that will lose money. Barry and Megatron kept resigning with the lions, now I ask whose fault is that. If it were me I would do how Revis did his contracts
@@iknowwhoiam6092 They dont make money if the only thing thats worth watching isnt playing.Other players are watching and the nflpa is too,they will end up like the bengals and nobody will want to be there
@@irockout9112 have you heard of the Bengals losing money or fans
@@iknowwhoiam6092 yes.also i heard nobody wants to go there
There is 2 sides to the Watson Debate by analysts. The FCA side and everyone else. EASTERBY hires Caserio, Dave Culley, Lovie Smith, Pep Hamilton . All outspoken FCA members and men of a certain Faith. Easterby gets rid of superstar talent for nothing that aren't receptive to his brand of FCA leadership. The McNairs look at Millionaire Players as Employees and inmates. What's the best way to make sure your Employees see themselves as SERVANTS FIRST??. This is all an EASTERBY PLAY, With Cal McNairs Blessing. Keep looking up where their off-season signings land on the FCA belief spectrum and it won't be hard to figure out. It's not about Talent alone. It's about Faith 1st, then Talent. They want the most talented FCA talent they can get, not the most Talented or Gifted Athletes.
He doesn’t want to waste his best years but wants to go to the Jets....🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Jets have a lot of draft picks due to Jamal adams
Wiley sounds foolish as USUAL....omg. they should cancel this SHOW
Miami
Watson has become to full of himself. You're still an employee. If you don't like it buy your own team and run it.
Texans are horrible now the passing offense was first in ypa thanks to Watson, team barely gets to 1000 team rushing yards if you take out Watsons rushing, and the defense OMG it’s horrible this defense was the sole reason The King Henry is over 2000 yards, they intercepted a total of 3 ints one of them being JJ Watt, 4th worst in pass defense per attempt along with giving up 5.2 per rush easily worst in the league This team is so awful once he leaves there gonna turn into the pre- Matthew Stafford Lions where rookies will be upset to be drafted by this organization
Yea go deshaun watson!
Where
Lol people act like the nfl is like the nba you don't sign they franchise you ask dak what happens when you get franchise tag it don't end well take the guaranteed money and then get out it's common sense
And he cant Force the Texans to TRADE him !! Since when do players Elite or not get to tell the Organization who made him less then a Year ago the 2nd highest Paid QB in the NFL !! Play Football we drafted him paid him and now he's making demands that no QB except for Tom Brady can ask for !!!! Bill O'Brien is the most directly to Blame for the TEXANS problems not Cullen , Not Caserio they want to become SB Champions with him under Center . Thats it period sit and lose money or play and MAN UP !!
he is the reason for your wins,if he just pulls a Harden you have nothing.Just trade him get picks like the jets and get fields or maybe the jags and get Lawrence
A house...
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Hm.
Where is this energy when they talk about DAK. This guy is a joke
Who's a joke?
@@mizal321 Wiley
they shouldnt he signed
The jury wouldn't like a black male.
Deshaun needs to leave Houston. He is forever gonna be compared to Mahomes. He saw what Mahomes has and realized he isn’t going to win in Houston.
They were just in the divisional round of the playoffs last year.
Wiley you don't surprise me from your comments. Your definitely a fox product. Actually you remind me of the guy you replaced.
He signed the deal....I'm tried of these crying millionaire no trade pay me all my dam money 💰 back and that signing bonus...and I will think about... +4...1st round picks and a superstar. I don't know what they doing down there Texas with these players to think they're gods he's on my hater list now too along with James Harding
So Watson should just be cool with Texans terrible management wasting away years of his career? It’s pretty easy to see why he’d quickly regret signing on with the team and do what he can to get out. They are never gonna succeed with a QB who hates the team it just won’t work. He’s been doing his end of the bargain by being a top QB in the league and they aren’t doing their jobs by putting a good team around him and making terrible decisions like trading Hopkins, letting a preacher influence the team, lying to their franchise player about his input on the team, etc. When Andre Johnson a legend of the team is coming out and supporting Watson you know this team is truly terrible. It doesn’t matter if they paid him that because literally any team would give him that contract and more. They did him no favors he did THEM a favor by signing. They did nothing to deserve him.
If your tired of them then stop watching. Otherwise shut up and watch
Yet you still sit on your couch every Sunday and watch them so......
Wiley speaking straight facts. If I was the Texan’s I would tell him to return his money and tear up the contract and he can walk as a free agent.
Seems like he wants it both ways. To keep his money and go where he chooses.
Greenbay get deshun watson .get a black quarterback. Capitalize .
Be diverse greenbay get a black quarterback . yall the nfl and packers are suspect for not in a 100 years not trying to get a black quarterback.
I mean who wouldn't want to see a great black quarterback on the packers thats super hot an on brady or rodgers level.
Show corny AF.
Jesus loves u lol
Wiley doesn’t know football Idk what kind of player he was but his logic is bad
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