I was taught the one leg method in Krav.This method is better.In the early UFC days I never saw anyone use the one leg method with success,yet Royce Gracie could kick the hell out of a opponent with the two legs from guard method. Thanks
Back when I did taekwondo we learnt a variation of the side kick out as a counter to having your foot/leg grabbed. The idea was if someone managed to grab your sidekick you immediately dropped to the floor using your hands to breakfall and then kicked the knee with the other leg, possibly drawing them in by retracting your trapped leg at the same time. Then you used a handstand flip to your feet asap, so it may have been more a knockback for space than a knee disable attack. I never tested this in a real fight situation as I was generally too busy _politely asking my opponent to step back_ so my techniques would work … …
My brother and I demonstrated this in front of a bar one night and I commented above you I believe but, it was very funny and us not having a video that’s because we’re 45 years old lol… FYI my brother has 45 pounds on me I was on the ground and I said look you can kick kick kick my brother grab my leg and pick me up!! He’s country strong as hell has never lifted weights!!
Woffords way martial arts Charles Wofford true, very true, but they work most of the time, and certainly enough of the time for them to be a primary target
I agree with you, but I could swear that I was once taught that if one is going to do single leg, one must be willing to switch legs repeatedly. If the person is going behind me, I was supposed to roll in that direction and kick with the leg that is newly on top. I think the roll itself was supposed to provide momentum to power a kick.
Side, Back, right wrong,, I don't think it's quite that simple,, different situations different boots. Not going to get into that,, but I think the most important thing here and this is the first time I've seen anyone do it is showing the best and safest way to get up after being nocked down. I have a back ground in Judo and Karate. I am not a strong grappler and prefer to keep it standing as long as possible. Can you do more vids on regaining your standing position . Love the vid by the way.
the funny thing is i have never actually seen someone use this but somehow I do it all the time when on my back and needing to fight wetheres its sparing or not. sometimes for more power I use my hands to hold back my legs bc I will push against them so when I release my hands all my or a lot of my leg strength springs out. didn't see anyone do it so idk how I got to know this kind of fighting stance. yes, I used to spare with my older brothers and I'm the youngest and a girl . so I've learnt a lot or somewhat about fighting . when I get older im going to try to remove my instinct to cowar since my middle brother can activate this and I want to be bale to see his attacks and learn to counter them.
I like this. It's very true what Stephan teaches. Only thing that I would at that you really need to learn to protect your face because in real life people sometimes aren't looking for passing the guard, but just soccer kick you in the face.
In this video, he gets a couple of things wrong. He says in the one side position, you can only kick with one leg. Actually, you can kick with both legs. The lower leg kicks to low targets such as the knee or shin, the upper leg kicks to either low or high targets. Also, contrary to what he says, you can actually turn faster from the side position because you are up on one elbow, which powers your turning. You can also get up easier because you are already part way up on one elbow. On the other hand, he's correct that on your back, both legs are in a better kicking position and it's harder to get around if the person doesn't turn quick enough. I actually use both positions, transferring back and forth as suits the situation.
I'm going to dissagree, we use the side method with testing (armour and heavy contact) and havn't found it as bad as you say. Of course there are times when the bad guy gets around, but that's life. How would you transition to getting up from there?
Hook the outside of his left ankle with your left foot and the JAM your right foot into the inside of his left knee. That should break his knee or, at a minimum, cause him enough pain that he'll break off his attack.
What to do if he tries to jump over your legs? I know it sounds crazy, but I have seen it used in mma with so so results, so I would like to have a decent answer : )
Shinwoo K most people will follow with their feet, so the person trying to jump lands on the feet of the other person, and with continued momentum, usually get throw over the top head first
This sounds silly but me and my bro used to do bjj learned from Gracie academy, Stephen and I did 3 months locally I used to try to jump over his guard and usually it ended with me getting caught by his legs and it hurt landing like that!! Plus if it was street he could have kicked me after he caught me possibly in the chin. Ko. And if you dive to high so you dont get kicked you usually clear there whole body! You can over dive punch into his guard and get a K.O punch for sure it works!! As seen in MMA. But its risky as he will probably block then you land in his guard and due to the jump your in a position to be easily swept or submitted.
It's not that crazy. There's a guard pass involving hopping like a frog after controlling the knees (forgot the name). Like a lot of things, situational.
Ouais. Elle était très instructive cette vidéo. Comme souvent d'ailleurs. Après je ne sais pas si tu connais la chaîne knight jiu jitsu ? C'est pas mal aussi. ;-)
@I’M NOT YOU NEVER WILL BE I agree 100% with him about using only one leg to do sidekicks, but when you use one leg to do straight kicks, using the other one to support(and protect the groin), I think is better.
@Josh M in the bjj guard you stay with the 2 legs raised like a baby, the opponent can apply a kick in the groin after spreading the bjj guy's legs , or when the bjj kicks, the opponent apply a kick in the opening given by the kick.
If you have shoes on there’s not nothing wrong with you raking the edge of shoe across his shin and a few groin strikes from there would, help ask…. Master Ken
Of course you shouldn't be completely on your side! Who teaches that? Also if you lay your back flat, it's easy to pass. Just lift the legs over or push aside, there is no base.
@@joshrules2747 Gracie GJJ for street self defense is taught in hundreds and hundreds of certified training centers all around the world. It is "today's Jiu-Jitsu" - it's today's Jiu-Jitsu for people who want to learn it for street self defense. There is also sport BJJ, of course, but that's a very different thing.
that last bottom leg kick you do befor you get up is absolute dog shit. just lay on your back and stomp the knees and up kick, then if there is space get the fuck up real quick, if they are standing and they engage their head and arms drag them into your guard and punch block while you look for get ups or if you cant get up look for triangles, if they are standing and they leg drag then cross over back to guard. --- once you have that and your a higher level blue or purple add foot to hip sweeps, iminarie rolls and single leg x (ie heal hook entries) as plan z if you cant get the fuck up.. if your on your back and the other guy is standing this is what you do, ps your welcome
In Judo, you would never aim to go to guard position. This is because Judo is taught in the context of the Samurai Jujitsu schools which were it's parent. So the assumption is made that the person standing (being a Samurai) will draw a knife and server the Achilles tendon of the person on the ground when they present their feet. Alternatively, if they don't have time to draw their knife, they will grab the foot with both hands and rotate it outwards so that the leg breaks at the knee and/or ankle joint. Needless to say, then it's all over very quickly. Incidentally, this is why in Judo, kicks (from standing or the ground) are never done above knee height. The risk of being decimated by another Samurai, who catches your kicking leg is not worth the outcome. (There are a whole range of outcomes once your kick is caught, all of which are very nasty). People need to understand that all of this has been worked out hundreds of years ago by professional warriors who fought life and death battles on a daily basis. But to sum up. I'm impressed with your video. The advice is good. I would say, kick once and hard just under the kneecap or to the ankle. In the instant that the attacker moves his leg away. (Don't assume that you will always definitely make contact), spring to your feet as quickly as possible in the gap created. The whole BJJ idea of intentionally 'pulling guard' is complete nonsense in the context of real material arts. It only seems to work when there are artificial rules, designed to make the position seem strong. In reality, it's one of the poorest positions to be in and you should get out of it and back on your feet as quickly as you can.
Hi ! I find groin kick more easy to manage than soccer kick to the side. When a Guy try to kick you in the groin he is very prédictible , his leg goes straight and near you , you just have to block it and hit with your other leg. Soccer kick is , I think , an other story, specially in thé street when the agressor wear shoes . If the agressor have short legs , ok I Can manage him but if hé have long legs and know how to use it, it's very difficult, I have to Come near as possible to him to grab on of his leg and take him down, HARD TIME FOR ME.
True, I agree with most of what is said, and I too prefer two legs front than just one on the side. I will add however, you can still get kicked in the butt (and I mean rectum! Ouch!..) and to the groin/genitals and on both legs. Also, usually someone grabbing one foot/leg from the two legs is easier than if the bottom guy has one leg front. I believe you can still use both techniques from different angles, that is, as you are rotating.
In this situation ive had 100% success by drwing into a tight ball as they come in committed (almost last second after thier eys are past my kness laying flat) and letting then fall on both feet either in the gut or squarely on each hip. As they compress my knees in, explode out and up with all you have. They WILL be involuntarily transported backwards totally without balance for a good distance even if they arent airborne, plenty for recovery, and if airborne you can brt on a train wreck when they touch about anything. This wasnt a technique I learned, I got hit from behind(one poolstick, one metal folding chair)and went black long enough to go down. When my eyes opened I had large men inbound and that was the instinctive reaction in both instances. The second guy was airborne almost 15 feet according to witnesses. (When a young cub I would go 750-900lbs on incline leg press for reps regularly, so add adrenaline and yea. Fat ass actually felt weightless at the moment) anyway, the surprise, adrenaline, and explosive movement combined were more than adequate to recover and establish control. That gaurded curl thing nust causes the rnemy to pause and think. I feel you're better off hilding till they are too far in to pull back. JMO, but it turned a bad scene into a good save for me twice in a real world back jumped these people wanna see me bleed situation...those lessons are the ones I consider valid. Rings have refs and rules, luxuries ive not seen when it matters...
that rusty machine gun analogy was awesome
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I was taught the one leg method in Krav.This method is better.In the early UFC days I never saw anyone use the one leg method with success,yet Royce Gracie could kick the hell out of a opponent with the two legs from guard method. Thanks
Back when I did taekwondo we learnt a variation of the side kick out as a counter to having your foot/leg grabbed.
The idea was if someone managed to grab your sidekick you immediately dropped to the floor using your hands to breakfall and then kicked the knee with the other leg, possibly drawing them in by retracting your trapped leg at the same time. Then you used a handstand flip to your feet asap, so it may have been more a knockback for space than a knee disable attack.
I never tested this in a real fight situation as I was generally too busy _politely asking my opponent to step back_ so my techniques would work … …
My brother and I demonstrated this in front of a bar one night and I commented above you I believe but, it was very funny and us not having a video that’s because we’re 45 years old lol… FYI my brother has 45 pounds on me I was on the ground and I said look you can kick kick kick my brother grab my leg and pick me up!! He’s country strong as hell has never lifted weights!!
That's what I learnt back in the 80's - very good and very(!) realistic advice
I like your approach to starting a discussion
In self defense...upkicks to the groin are so much easier to land.
THE BALLS.
NO REALLY.
They are really bad to get hit in.
@Semper Fi Not in equal measure if you dont have noclip activated.
There's a darn good reason Stephan reminded us to use mouthguard, protective cup and other things.
That said... Pain is a great teaching tool.
The balls don't always work
Woffords way martial arts Charles Wofford true, very true, but they work most of the time, and certainly enough of the time for them to be a primary target
Awesome, that's almost exactly what we do as well. Thanks so much :)
I agree with you, but I could swear that I was once taught that if one is going to do single leg, one must be willing to switch legs repeatedly. If the person is going behind me, I was supposed to roll in that direction and kick with the leg that is newly on top. I think the roll itself was supposed to provide momentum to power a kick.
Good advice
Side, Back, right wrong,, I don't think it's quite that simple,, different situations different boots. Not going to get into that,, but I think the most important thing here and this is the first time I've seen anyone do it is showing the best and safest way to get up after being nocked down. I have a back ground in Judo and Karate. I am not a strong grappler and prefer to keep it standing as long as possible. Can you do more vids on regaining your standing position . Love the vid by the way.
If you're rocked it's game over anyway, your mind is no longer in the fight
the funny thing is i have never actually seen someone use this but somehow I do it all the time when on my back and needing to fight wetheres its sparing or not. sometimes for more power I use my hands to hold back my legs bc I will push against them so when I release my hands all my or a lot of my leg strength springs out. didn't see anyone do it so idk how I got to know this kind of fighting stance. yes, I used to spare with my older brothers and I'm the youngest and a girl . so I've learnt a lot or somewhat about fighting . when I get older im going to try to remove my instinct to cowar since my middle brother can activate this and I want to be bale to see his attacks and learn to counter them.
I like this. It's very true what Stephan teaches. Only thing that I would at that you really need to learn to protect your face because in real life people sometimes aren't looking for passing the guard, but just soccer kick you in the face.
Thank you :)
Great video! I never liked that side position
NICE Mortal Kombat no gi shirt. Where can I get one????? Also, great way to start your video. The punch and getting dropped was a cool visual.
In this video, he gets a couple of things wrong. He says in the one side position, you can only kick with one leg. Actually, you can kick with both legs. The lower leg kicks to low targets such as the knee or shin, the upper leg kicks to either low or high targets. Also, contrary to what he says, you can actually turn faster from the side position because you are up on one elbow, which powers your turning. You can also get up easier because you are already part way up on one elbow.
On the other hand, he's correct that on your back, both legs are in a better kicking position and it's harder to get around if the person doesn't turn quick enough.
I actually use both positions, transferring back and forth as suits the situation.
Yeah, and what if the guy who knocked you down is a fan of Master Ken and, as such, decides to stomp and restomp the groin?
is it from the gracie jiu jitsu system?
I'm going to dissagree, we use the side method with testing (armour and heavy contact) and havn't found it as bad as you say. Of course there are times when the bad guy gets around, but that's life. How would you transition to getting up from there?
Start a windmill like in breakdance.
Hook the outside of his left ankle with your left foot and the JAM your right foot into the inside of his left knee. That should break his knee or, at a minimum, cause him enough pain that he'll break off his attack.
What to do if he tries to jump over your legs? I know it sounds crazy, but I have seen it used in mma with so so results, so I would like to have a decent answer : )
Shinwoo K most people will follow with their feet, so the person trying to jump lands on the feet of the other person, and with continued momentum, usually get throw over the top head first
This sounds silly but me and my bro used to do bjj learned from Gracie academy, Stephen and I did 3 months locally
I used to try to jump over his guard and usually it ended with me getting caught by his legs and it hurt landing like that!! Plus if it was street he could have kicked me after he caught me possibly in the chin. Ko.
And if you dive to high so you dont get kicked you usually clear there whole body!
You can over dive punch into his guard and get a K.O punch for sure it works!! As seen in MMA.
But its risky as he will probably block then you land in his guard and due to the jump your in a position to be easily swept or submitted.
It's not that crazy. There's a guard pass involving hopping like a frog
after controlling the knees (forgot the name). Like a lot of things, situational.
Merci beaucoup !
Ouais. Elle était très instructive cette vidéo. Comme souvent d'ailleurs. Après je ne sais pas si tu connais la chaîne knight jiu jitsu ? C'est pas mal aussi. ;-)
Ah oui. Je connais mais je ne suivais pas spécialement. Merci beaucoup. Je vais m'y intéresser. ^^
@@FudomyoGP Oss !
Give them opportunity to get your back stay on your back and turn with them
FIVE STARS !! 🤗
the first option is better in one case,if your oppoent goes for the balls,dont wait in guard lololol
I'm expecting your self defense course on Udemy
Keeping the two legs high will open to a groin kick.
This bjj "guard" is ridiculous, works only in competitions.
@I’M NOT YOU NEVER WILL BE I agree 100% with him about using only one leg to do sidekicks, but when you use one leg to do straight kicks, using the other one to support(and protect the groin), I think is better.
@Josh M in the bjj guard you stay with the 2 legs raised like a baby, the opponent can apply a kick in the groin after spreading the bjj guy's legs , or when the bjj kicks, the opponent apply a kick in the opening given by the kick.
@Josh M look at this /fNLzV0a547k
Someone needs to get this to Conor
yep he should of trained up kicks
supernalbjj why wasn’t he up kicking khabib in that infamous 2nd round? Conor’s legs looked like jelly. I don’t get it
At the gracie academy that positon is called punch block which is a very effective against a resisting opponent. Thanks stefan ☺
If you have shoes on there’s not nothing wrong with you raking the edge of shoe across his shin and a few groin strikes from there would, help ask…. Master Ken
You do it wrong!!!!!!!!
But you right that in close distanse you should work with 2 legs
1:23 but steve you could of hooked punched him in the nose or grabbed his hands.
Of course you shouldn't be completely on your side! Who teaches that? Also if you lay your back flat, it's easy to pass. Just lift the legs over or push aside, there is no base.
Today's jiujitsu with all its ludicrous rules is basically useless for self defense.
@Semper Fi ya. that's why i said: "Today's jiujitsu with all its ludicrous rules is basically useless for self defense"
@@joshrules2747 Gracie GJJ for street self defense is taught in hundreds and hundreds of certified training centers all around the world. It is "today's Jiu-Jitsu" - it's today's Jiu-Jitsu for people who want to learn it for street self defense. There is also sport BJJ, of course, but that's a very different thing.
that last bottom leg kick you do befor you get up is absolute dog shit. just lay on your back and stomp the knees and up kick, then if there is space get the fuck up real quick, if they are standing and they engage their head and arms drag them into your guard and punch block while you look for get ups or if you cant get up look for triangles, if they are standing and they leg drag then cross over back to guard. --- once you have that and your a higher level blue or purple add foot to hip sweeps, iminarie rolls and single leg x (ie heal hook entries) as plan z if you cant get the fuck up.. if your on your back and the other guy is standing this is what you do, ps your welcome
In Judo, you would never aim to go to guard position. This is because Judo is taught in the context of the Samurai Jujitsu schools which were it's parent. So the assumption is made that the person standing (being a Samurai) will draw a knife and server the Achilles tendon of the person on the ground when they present their feet. Alternatively, if they don't have time to draw their knife, they will grab the foot with both hands and rotate it outwards so that the leg breaks at the knee and/or ankle joint. Needless to say, then it's all over very quickly. Incidentally, this is why in Judo, kicks (from standing or the ground) are never done above knee height. The risk of being decimated by another Samurai, who catches your kicking leg is not worth the outcome. (There are a whole range of outcomes once your kick is caught, all of which are very nasty). People need to understand that all of this has been worked out hundreds of years ago by professional warriors who fought life and death battles on a daily basis. But to sum up. I'm impressed with your video. The advice is good. I would say, kick once and hard just under the kneecap or to the ankle. In the instant that the attacker moves his leg away. (Don't assume that you will always definitely make contact), spring to your feet as quickly as possible in the gap created. The whole BJJ idea of intentionally 'pulling guard' is complete nonsense in the context of real material arts. It only seems to work when there are artificial rules, designed to make the position seem strong. In reality, it's one of the poorest positions to be in and you should get out of it and back on your feet as quickly as you can.
In a real fight, just stomp the groin. This is still a good video though :)
Hi ! I find groin kick more easy to manage than soccer kick to the side.
When a Guy try to kick you in the groin he is very prédictible , his leg goes straight and near you , you just have to block it and hit with your other leg.
Soccer kick is , I think , an other story, specially in thé street when the agressor wear shoes .
If the agressor have short legs , ok I Can manage him but if hé have long legs and know how to use it, it's very difficult, I have to Come near as possible to him to grab on of his leg and take him down, HARD TIME FOR ME.
But Steven Seagal says....
LEARN TO DRAW YOUR GUN FROM YOUR BACK.
True, I agree with most of what is said, and I too prefer two legs front than just one on the side. I will add however, you can still get kicked in the butt (and I mean rectum! Ouch!..) and to the groin/genitals and on both legs. Also, usually someone grabbing one foot/leg from the two legs is easier than if the bottom guy has one leg front.
I believe you can still use both techniques from different angles, that is, as you are rotating.
In this situation ive had 100% success by drwing into a tight ball as they come in committed (almost last second after thier eys are past my kness laying flat) and letting then fall on both feet either in the gut or squarely on each hip. As they compress my knees in, explode out and up with all you have. They WILL be involuntarily transported backwards totally without balance for a good distance even if they arent airborne, plenty for recovery, and if airborne you can brt on a train wreck when they touch about anything. This wasnt a technique I learned, I got hit from behind(one poolstick, one metal folding chair)and went black long enough to go down. When my eyes opened I had large men inbound and that was the instinctive reaction in both instances. The second guy was airborne almost 15 feet according to witnesses. (When a young cub I would go 750-900lbs on incline leg press for reps regularly, so add adrenaline and yea. Fat ass actually felt weightless at the moment) anyway, the surprise, adrenaline, and explosive movement combined were more than adequate to recover and establish control. That gaurded curl thing nust causes the rnemy to pause and think. I feel you're better off hilding till they are too far in to pull back. JMO, but it turned a bad scene into a good save for me twice in a real world back jumped these people wanna see me bleed situation...those lessons are the ones I consider valid. Rings have refs and rules, luxuries ive not seen when it matters...
You need to add CIWS under your back, it will rotate automaticaly..
For sports fights it makes sense. But watch out for your groin in an actual fight.
Bull shit I've had my leg blown out with one kick and have blown a leg out with one kick gtfoh