Is Sonic CD A Misunderstood Masterpiece?
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Sonic CD is a strange case for the Classic Trilogy seeing as people aren't sure whether or not it's amazing or awful. Sonic 1, 2, and 3, have fairly unanimous conclusions, but CD is either hailed as the best of the classics, or thrown in the trash. What do you think about it?
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The fact that this video already has more than the oddworld video is a crime. This is a great video, but the other had such passion put into it and I love when you talk about things you absolutely love. I'm sorry others can't see it like that dude
If you are subscribed you get the upload.
I remember an official source stating that the CD would stand for Chrono Distortion in future releases
I am bummed that Sonic Origins won’t let us use Knuckles in Sonic CD since he’d probably be better suited for the stages. Time travel not withstanding
This game is actually the first Sonic game I ever played, it was what introduced Metal Sonic, a dope af Sonic doppelganger, and the soundtrack is amazing, ESPECIALLY the JP version.
Same
Aka EU
I like the US soundtrack
@@theshinycharmander258 I didn’t say you couldn’t like it
Same dude
9:28 - Fun fact... you don't even need to destroy these at all. You gain absolutely nothing by doing so. You need to either destroy all robot generators or get all time stones. Metal Sonic projectors are worthless.
14:30 - Puhahahahaha. I use JP OST to play the game but I play the US OST when I just want to listen to some Sonic music.
Oooh i thought you had to do both. Damn that woulda saved me some time recording lmao
There is something for destroying metal sonic projectors it makes animals jump around in the past (and I think an achievement in the 2011 ver)
@@Mr.Board_ I meant anything significant; basically, it doesn't affect the ending of the game. But yeah, if you want to see animals jumping around, sure, go for them lol
Whether you hate the game or not, you gotta admit that the intro animation is pretty darn cool. It blew mind as a kid.
what about the final animation? but yes, the intro one is a hidden gem
it still blows my mind
And the outro
Funny thing about the point you make about Eggman making crappy boss machines and the game being about time travel: Christian Whitehead proposed an idea for a true final boss called Final Fever where you'd be fighting a giant Eggman robot that was completely invincible. In order to defeat it, you needed to repeatedly travel between the past and the future to damage it while it was still under construction. While I forget why it was ultimately not implemented, the fight would only be accessible if you collected the time stones and was meant to take place in a "time warp", not unlike Egg Reverie, and there were also banners on poles in the arena not unlike the ones you see in Titanic Monarch.
That's badass. They should have let him do that
This game actually was my favourite classic sonic game when I first got into these games, I really found 3&K frustrating, and for some reason I just didn't want to play sonic 2. And sonic CD pretty much taught me how to play classic sonic, like no joke, I genuinely ragequit at the final boss of sonic 3&K (which is a boss I can literally beat with my eyes closed now lol) and didn't play it for like a year, meanwhile sonic CD is a game I didn't enjoy at first, but as I learned how to play it correctly I love it, I genuinely did one play through of it every single damn day until, someday I just kinda stopped and didn't play it until a few weeks ago when I literally bought the steam port, like 2 days before it got delisted because I didn't want to wait for sonic origins and replaying it...
I still love it, although not as much as I did before, like maybe it's because of the way I was playing, trying to go for both the time stones and robot generators (and I failed at that because I got 6 out of 7, damn it) and it just made me learn how tedious some levels could be, like wacky Workbench act 2, you need to do a very specific jump at the beginning, or else it's like almost impossible to get the robot generator, and then trying to get 50 rings is really frustrating in some levels. But honestly, I've replayed this game so many times that i don't care about it. And i really enjoy finding different ways to reach the past in each levels and I always find something new in this game. the stage selection in this game is also great, j know I complained about them a bit but I still love them, besides wacky Workbench, Palm tree panic feels different than green hill to me and I kinda like it, collision chaos is a really good zone and the theme is so... It, like there's literally no other zone like it in the series, tidal tempest is my favourite classic sonic water levels and my favourite level in this game, quartz quadrant is a really underrated zone and the theming is also great, like those backgrounds and level gimmicks really make you feel like you're a mineshaft of some kind, stardust speedway is a blast, and metallic madness is a perfect final level for me. The bosses suck but aside from that, all the levels are great and I really love replaying this game. Although it's no longer my favourite classic game.
(Also the OST is amazing, while I mostly use the Japanese soundtrack, the us has some real bangers on it, like... Pretty much every Stardust speedway song and even if you mentioned it, j really love how other songs like tidal tempest present and past have a different feel to them than any other song in this series, which makes them stick out, in a good way)
Holy hell this comment became way longer than what I initially wanted to write.
nah, don’t worry if your comment is too long, i like to read opinions
I think it’s a good game but the levels feel like mazes and my younger self got lost in them for so long
It's no better for me now XD
It's still difficult
The only levels that feel like actual "mazes" to me are Metallic Madness act 2 and Wacky Workbench act 1. The rest of the game's levels, while not nearly as elegantly designed as the average Sonic 2 or 3K level, are still relatively straightforward with their traversal from the start to the end.
Same bruh
I actually found it easier to beat CD compared to the classic trilogy the levels felt easier for me for some reason also the great soundtrack is what makes me rate CD higher than the trilogy imo
This is the most atmospheric classic sonic game imo. Def important in how it influenced the series' identity, and def one of my favs
The answer to your video title ? yes... it's such a unique game, different, bizarre but undeniably, otherworldly and magical
Let me just say that even though I only had access to a PS3 demo of this game for a few years, that intro alone was enough to make me a huge Sonic fan, and I think that speaks volumes.
Same I also had the demo and it's the intro that got me hooked on this game as well I didn't feel like buying the game at the time because I was still a kid so I decided to emulate it although the sega CD version is inferior to the 2011 version I still enjoyed it
I know some people dislike the super peel out cause it’s useless compared to the spin dash, but I used it a lot in my generator hunt play through. The extra speed it gets was perfect for using ramps to get up to higher spots. I’d also use it and then press down to take out enemies. If anything, I found the spin dash to get less use since I’d only ever use it in tight spots with an enemy a couple inches away. Other than that, peel out all the way
It also looks super badass
I always thought it was a good game with good potential although, I can see its flaws
I think Knuckles Chaotix is pretty underated as well
They are very similar to each other and they’re pretty much one of the best sonic games
@@Stickboy321Go huh never thought someone would respond after a year
@@AshburnTheBurningHedgehog Well, some people do.
Sonic CD is a decent game, at the time I think it was way more impactful then its legacy holds because it was our first time having a Sonic with cutscenes and CD quality music but gameplay wise it can be a little long winded, the levels seem to have a high amount of clutter and Sonic doesn't stand out very well amongst everything else, the levels can be a little long winded and going back and forth through time to get the good ending is more tedious than it is fun. Gameplay wise Sonic 2 was a much better game and Sonic 3 & Knuckles is beyond that.
even though people say the game is flawed in some aspect, I think while Sonic 2 followed the more speed side of Sonic 1, Sonic CD followed the exploration side of Sonic 1
Yeah, tidal tempest is a pretty chill Water level, also i totally agree with what you said about The soundtrack giving emotions, specially The past themes
I also have a soft spot for thus game. The art and soundtrack is superb, and I vividly remember trying to emulate Junio Sonic in my sketchbook.
That joke about no breathing in space and cutting to the other part was actually funny tho 🤣 😂
Sonic CD is a mixed bag of good and bad ideas, where the bad mostly bubbles up near the end. Overall serviceable, though it really could've been so much better.
Also "Sonic CDeez nuts" killed me.
I remember when I completed sonic forces, I thought it was so bad I went to complete sonic CD instead
I was stuck in Collision Chaos pinball for days. I never got passed it. I assumed it was because I was playing on mobile. But now I'm concerned if it's on my skill instead.
Maybe not a masterpiece...but i will say after playing it for the first time 2 years ago, i was VERY surprised to see how much people hated it. Considering how much fun it was.
But alas, nobody likes the good ones.
Thats weird about the soundtrack for you. When I pressed the Us button, it replaced all the lazy Genesis tracks with interesting good music that actually takes advantage of the “CD” part of Sonic CD.
Two sonic frontiers gameplays have come out and this guy is talking about sonic cd what an abosulute chad
People say that Sonic CD is "too easy," People also say Sonic CD has "Bad level design." Well my take on Sonic CD (based on experience) is that Sonic CD is, yes, indeed easy, but easy to where you get to at least have fun and explore. Plus, in order to make the game a challenge, you can Time Travel to get the good ending by destroying all Badnik Factories and Metal Sonic Holograms (or you can take on all the Special Stages or do both and get only a couple Time Stones if they tend to get tricky after a while), even though it can be a chore at times, it at least gives you an opportunity to explore the level instead of just holding right to win because as a Sonic fan, I usually like to explore the levels to find secrets and to at least have enough lives as possible to finish the game or use power ups to help me. Sure CD's final boss is easy, but having enough lives will be worth it since now you know how much finding secrets can pay off when it comes to Sonic.
Sonic will forever be a cool dude, because CD stands for Cool Dude
Stardust Speedway US is a banger, dude.
As someone who has been replaying the entire classic collection a lot recently (hell I even got a sega cd and sonic cd recently.) The best way to ppkay cd is when you already know where everything is. I have noticed that the stages are built in such a way where taking a specific line throughout can pretty much guarantee a past sign time travel, a destruction of metal sonic projector and robot generator. The only stages that aren't like that are Quartz Quadrant act 2 and today tempest act 2 where the past signs and metal sonic moniters are in stupid places. But playing it like that while also getting timestones is my favorite way to play.
I should try doing it this way. Also yay, desktop YT added back emojis!
I used to kinda hate Sonic CD but know it's I respect it and it's now my 2D favorite 2D classic Sonic official game right above Mania
Garrulous is suddenly a news reporter.
Sonic CD is a good game to me, it's got nice levels, Great soundtracks, Metal Sonic and Amy, and Time Travel!
I feel like, as someone who just recently bought sonic cd for sega cd and bought a Sega CD the same day this was uploaded, I caused this upload
I really love sonic cd. The OST, the time gimmick, hell, even sonics first badass doppelgänger (B.S. before shadow) Metal sonic! Sure it has its ups like the beginning cutscene and downs like the 9 yr old stalker and the level design but, man, It has a fair share of charm!
What do you mean by a 9 year old stalker
@@xLuigi77x amy
@@xLuigi77x amy
I just completed sonic cd with all 7 time stones before I saw this video. Great timing for this video.
I remember hearing you hint about this last stream!
Am I a bad person for enjoying Sonic CD? Yes, Yes I am.
I love this game it's my favorite sonic game, the music and the colors and the theme
meet the new character in the GCU, SHADOW GARRALOUS! just garralous but in darker lighting which contrasts the bright background
I ended up trying to look up if you can turn off the time limit in Sonic CD, modern and otherwise.
You can't.
This is part of why I don't like this game. The level is designed for you to explore vs running to the right and yet they still put in a time limit AND never allowed you to disable it in the 2011 remasters of it.
Its worth noting that in 1993 CD, time traveling would reset the timer to 5:00, if the timer was beyond that. If you were good at time traveling, you could jump between periods to give yourself more time.
I don't know why the remake removed this, and didn't give us an option to disable the timer.
@@goingunleashed5826 THE REMAKE *REMOVED* THAT?!?! ARE YOU FOR REAL?!?!?!
With the generators this is 7 a very enjoyable experience, except wacky workbench…
Well I mean I technically watched the oddworld video already but because I like your content so much I will use my other accounts and rewatch it to get you more views😎👍
Garrulous 64 came out of a fire to record this
Can we please talk about the fact that the Bowser on your T-shirt is uhh partially see through?
I legit thing that travel to the future before get all time stones is actually a obstacule, ones you get all the time stones you actually want to go to the future becose in orden of dificulty is bad future> present> past> good future
2:33 sonic cdeez nuts moment
I swear by this game while talking about it.
I swear at this game while playing it.
Is the metal sonic head on the title a reference to the comics?
Sonic cd used to be a stranger sonic 1 to me and I never tried to destroy the monitors or listen to the music. I used to wonder why some 3rd acts were robotized and some were not but then I realized.
How did you miss the cut scene of Amy getting kidnapped by metal sonic at the beginning of Collision Chaos?
I've never played cd before just cause I'm far too lazy to buy it at the moment and will probably just wait for origins to play it. I'm curious about it but stuff like the one shot at all the robot generators and really experimental bossfights makes me think I ain't in any rush to give it a go.
They could solition the wortless of the future if the end goal was actually there and not in the present or past
cant say ive played through it more than any other sonic title (im sorry just saveless games always take me a while to complete), but I did play it a bit. From what I hear it mirrors sonic 1 rather than being more in the style of sonic 2 and 3&nuckles. I guess even back then Sonic fans where getting a variety in which different people liked different things... and with the 3&nuckles situation, its always been rushed where sonic team has to do something clever to even get it out in time... Sonic, what a series.
Wait, you have no opinion on the US soundtrack?
It is more on the atmospheric side, and the boss/game over theme is pure nightmare fuel.
The past is the same in both versions of the soundtrack for some reason.
the re release really did bring new life to this game, but i still like 2 and 3 more. but i definitely have the most memories with CD because I had an og Xbox with gems collection. also is it just me or did that version have wierd physics?
Yes Garrulous, there are Generators in Metallic Madness.
12:15 YES there are robot generators in metallic madness' lower routes
His name is and has always been Miles "Tails" Prower
Sonic CD may be a little rough to get into at first but I'd 100% CD before attempting to casually play Knuckles' Chaotix
I’ve played the IOS version of this game and while I have only so much of a gripe with the levels themselves, I absolutely despise the special stages. The 2D sprites are stupidly hard to hit. That and the alternate way to get the good ending is also frustrating.
US soundtrack slander will not be tolerated
In my opinion, yes. Absolutely.
10:23
Slick moves Garrulous
I didn't watch the Oddworld video, because seeing gameplay of one of it's games brought psychological trauma to me by watching it. Same goes for some movie my family watched long ago, for the same reasons.
2:33 is it wrong that I laughed?
The "white noise" thing is true, I don't know why people like turning on that option.
Sonic CD and Sonic Unleashed. Sonic Unleashed CD would be a very very very epic game.
No lyrics because of the singer’s death and rights like Michael Jackson for Sonic 3
So the CD stands for Coom divisable?
I still don't understand the somewhat recent "hate" towards it, I remember playing it around the time it came out and it was a blast. Coming back to it over the years, still is my favorite classic Sonic game. And don't get me started on the awful US soundtrack that just doesn't fit, why you guys had that?! You poor poor souls!
On the other hand Sonic 3&K, now that's a game I don't really get. It's really good buuuut...there's something about it that I'm not digging.
I think the "hate" is just sonic fanbase group think this isn't exactly the most consistent fanbase I mean I remember years back they were crying about sonic's eyes being green personally this is my favourite classic sonic game
It's not a bad game but the level design is very messy compared to 1, 2, and 3K
I feel like most people who played CD and called the level design messy only remember playing collision chaos and wacky workbench.
Sonic C.D. = Sonic Certainly Divisive
Thx garrulous64 finally sonic cd
3:21 Which one though? You can do anything or Sonic Boom?
Sonic Boom still has lyrics in the 2011 version.
sonic cd is my favortie game
Sonic CDeez nuts
Never mind you already made that joke
Finally someone saying this game is good
Sonic cd is a good game,
My personal favorite classic sonic game
I will watch your odd world vid Dylan.
FINALLY!!!
(I Still Can't Believe You Skipped This Game, And Went Straight To Sonic 3, Even Though CD Came Before 3.)
(Nice To Hear A Fair Amount Of Positive Stuff About This Game, And Yes, I Also Saw A Few Negative Things About This Game Too, The Bosses (First Boss Is Crap, Second Boss Is A Problem To Get Past, Third Boss Is Not As Bad As The First One, But Still Crap, Fourth Boss Is A Small Scale Spike Bomb Ambush, Fifth Boss Is Based On The Piece Of Crap Gimmick Of Wacky Workbench, Metal Sonic Is Thirsty For Sonic's Blood, And Final Fever (The Final Boss) Is A Bit Too Easy For The Final Boss, It Could Use A Bit More HP.), The Objective To Get The Good Ending (Time Stones Are Out Of The Question For Players Like Me Who Are Not Good At Special Stages, And The Generators Are So Hard To Find!), And Wacky Workbench Itself (The Gimmick I Mentioned Before, And You Can't Even Go Fast Even Though It's A Sonic Game.).)
(My Favorite Zone From This Game Is Tidal Tempest.)
One of my favs
Oh wow I missed this channel
Uploading every week as usual. Not just Sonic.
Sonic CD is the embodiment of the middle child nobody likes but has the one thing everybody loves
My dude, the Christian Whitehead port of CD has a 93 on metacritic, and hundreds of thousands of Sonic fans deem it to be within the top ten best Sonic games, who is this "nobody" that you're talking about?
@@demetriuskafkoulas5005 even with the Christian Whitehead port the game still sucks.
@@sephiroth6946 So from what I'm gathering, you're basically saying that because YOU think the game is bad, you assume that means everybody else also thinks it's bad. That's where I'm getting confused here.
I don't have a single problem with you disliking Sonic CD, but acting like it's a fact that the game is hated by everybody is obviously not correct.
@@demetriuskafkoulas5005 absolutely
The cd in sonic cd means comically different
Still waiting for the Sonic advance 3 review
That’s already came out-
@@raunak0983 it’s a meme on this channel
I’m excited for Sonic Origins.
The game is very love or hate in the community. For me I like Sonic CD a lot. It’s one of the best 2D sonic games ever and it’s hard to argue against that.
14:32 DON’T YOU EVER TALK BAD ABOUT THE US SOUNDTRACK It is not ever That bad.
It’s very misunderstood. Sonic CD beats sonic 1 and 2 (without tails) for me. It has a very interesting story, the music is fire and people say the level designs are trash but that’s only because it’s really different from sonic 1, 2 and 3/@k, the level design is actually super cool and interesting
All I will say is that the original SEGA CD version was a technical disaster.
I enjoy Sonic CD! In fact... IT'S MY FAVOURITE GAME OF ALL TIME!!! But I understand if many people don't like this game because it's really weird!
I havent watched yet, but yes. Before i played halo 3, sonic cd was my favorite game of all time. Scott the woz is my guy but i won’t approve of sonic cd slander
Honestly, Sonic CD was always kinda just “ eh “ or flat out bad for me. ( Especially considering it’s lower than most classics on mine. ) My favourites are 3&K and 2, so having to try and get 50 rings *to* the end always was annoying. So, having to do that, or track down some random generators, which I only really usually do during the first two zones, anyways, since I get the time stones. Because honestly? One of the best special stages, only losing to 3&K. That’s one of the most enjoyable points for me. Also having two different OSTs always rubbed me off the wrong way. Regardless I just use the JP OST since I think ( personally ) it fits the “ Sonic “ style better, rather than the weird shit inside the US OST.
Regarding gameplay, the spindash is god damn weird. I say the charging could work if it was more powerful and in 3D, like in SRB2. Though you might as well just use the super peel out. The zones are just weird. Depending on what you’re trying to do. Time Stones or Robot Generators. If you do Robot Generators the fun of every zone just d i p s since you have to do it for every. Single. Zone. At least with time stones you only have to do like 2 zones and a 1/2.
The bosses are god damn piss easy, except the final boss. That’s just annoying, next to the pinball machine. Though I guess it not being in the way is fine.
Overall the game, like I said earlier is just ok. I’ve never liked it, especially considering most of my experience is with the remastered versions and CD really just doesn’t hold up, even to the original 3&K.
I guess i'm that weirdo, who enjoys white noise.
I think that Sonic CD is fundamentally "ok," and most of the divisiveness is consumer tribalism. Like, most console wars are less a matter of genuine quality and more a matter of "which did I / my parents buy first?" Similarly, the Sega CD was not particularly common due to price vs games, so those who played Sonic CD had to hype it up to justify their purchase. Then, when most other fans got their hands on it a few years later, it failed hard to live up to the hype, so they slammed it. Then there was a war, and what else are new fans going to do but join it? And here we are.
Short answer: Yes.
Oh hey I have tramua from the us soundtrack, basically dumb kid + sonic cd = us boss theme
The reason why Sonic CD is my favorite is because soundtrack metal sonic and the asthetic sonic 1 I only play for Green Hill sonic 2 is a better in most categories I will agree and I have fully beat multiple times but for some reason I just like CD better and s3&k I have never played it before sonic mania same thing for Sonic 2
lmao breathing
idk