Thanks so much Jason, that’s exactly right! Our goal is to be as real as possible, and admit when things didn’t go as planned, so you all can learn with us.
Looked like a fun great hunt. Sorry you didn't bag out a good bull this time. Hope you are able and willing to harvest an organic elk next season. Enjoyed the hunt with you ! !
Yes They seem to forget they injured an animal and that wound will kill them with infection and they don't have a chance of surviving the winter. Sick that they leave them like that
430 yard shot while the wind is howling and the bull is quartered and moving, not a very smart shot at all. No wonder you didn’t recover him, you should of punched your tag and not hunted anymore. You know good and well this bull didn’t survive, but you could careless you were just worried about getting a kill on video. People will do anything for kill videos
i hate it when hunters wound an animal and keep hunting. if you pull the trigger and the elk is hit - dead or unrecovered, that should be the conclusion of your hunting tag. i don't respect anyone who feels different about that
Reminds me of a bull we hit in the shoulder with a bow about 5 years back. Lots of blood, but never stopped. Ran out of blood after two miles. They’re just tough animals!
Your 400 yard shot should never have been taken if you couldn't put him down then. You re giving the impression of "killers" not hunters. Being from Wyoming, you're giving hunting a bad reputation. Terrible.
that bullet did not have enough kinetic energy at 400 yards for a clean kill. you had plenty of time and if you ran out of time, you just reposition closer. why take that shot especially in that wind when you can get closer?
60 years of hunting and never seen so my second basemen giving advise of what this or that should have done. If you hunt enough your going to have an animal get away or not die from the shot and if you don’t your only lying to your self so stop judging and go somewhere else to couch judge!
430 yds is not that far in big country like this especially for a 300 mag. To bad for the animal the hit was poor. IMO, its not that they are so tough but that the shooting is often not up to par
You’re so right! We try to be prepared for these types of backcountry hunts both from a physical aspect as well as our marksmanship. But we can always improve.
They are that tough! 60 years of elk and deer hunting and seeing shots from 270’s to 30/378 weatherby shot placement is very important and you keep firing until they drop and even then you had better be ready for anything
It's called..... WIND DRIFT. And it is damn near impossible to account for, accurately, when gusting like it was for that shot. A GUESS is about the best you can do and a GUESS is rarely going to bring the outcome we want, consistently.
And QUIT attempting ridiculous 400 yard shots. If you aren't able to out smart the animal, stalking, tracking etc.. you shouldn't be out there doing that. Do your job and a 150 to 250 yard shot will happen more times than not. If you're truly a smart hunter.
What's bogus is other hunters complaining about a bad shot - when it happens to many... If it were someone like the Born & Raised/Hush guys & a 80+yard archery shot they'd say the complete opposite........ I have 3 friends that were shot while working at a gas station (robbery) and they were shot 11 times combined & they all survived / 2 still have bullets in their spines but they're doing ok...... Sometimes the Lord simply says not today
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What ammo/bullet did you use to shoot that bull? 300 Wby is more than enough velocity. With so much blood loss, it could have been well hit but bullet failure.
We believe it hit low brisket in retrospect. There was zero reaction of the bull at time of shot so we believe we hit it below vitals. Tracked it for a long time with the last blood speck being two miles from impact and to our knowledge he didn’t bed down at all.
@@hookedhunting Had a similar experience with a nice mule deer last fall. Hit it but apparently the bullet didn't expand so there wasn't a lot of blood for tracking. Finally lost sign of any blood. That's why I was curious as to what bullet/ammo you were using. I had a .257 Wby pushing 100 grain Barnes TTSX at about 200 yards. More than enough gun, but didn't recover the buck. Hey, it happens! Anyone who has hunted any length of time knows that.
Richard, thanks for your comment. Not sure what you mean with “bad for our hunting community”. Kevin was very upset about wounding the bull he shot at so Ken became the main shooter at that point. There’s no worse feeling than wounding an animal.
Easy now Santiago, there are many factors that take place during a hunt like this. We train hard so to put the odds in our favor. Unfortunately sometimes it doesn’t work out the way we’d hoped it would. But in the end we did everything we could to recover the bull. Our prayer is the bull made a full recovery.
I disagree with the decision to go after a different bull after wounding the first. You should have spent the rest of the hunt searching for that Bull. Too many mistakes made by hunter and outfitter from the shot taken and every step afterward (hard to watch). I suggest you take this video down.
Thanks for the comment Carl. We searched for that bull, and tracked it for miles the first evening, and then about 8 miles going up the mountain the next day. The bull didn't stop, and the blood trail dried up completely. We really felt that the bullet opened up the skin, but didn't hit any vitals. We've tracked 100s of animals through the years, and when a bull goes up the mountain consistently for 8 miles, he's in good shape. We absolutely hate wounding an animal, but felt that if we only posted the successes, that's only part of the story of a hunter. The failures are what we learn from, and although disappointing, felt it was right for others to learn along with us.
Thanks for your comment. We absolutely hate wounding animals. Stalking is a huge part of our hunting strategy. Trying to get as close as we can without spooking the animal and make an ethical shot.
The old-timer should quit using comfortable rounds and. Use something that will knock the animal down. Real men shoot mags! We Dont wound elk we kill them should learn some ethics
Thanks for your comment. Kevin was shooting a .300 Weatherby Mag on this hunt. Unfortunately he did not make a fatal shot. Elk are tough animals and I hate wounding them. I wish we had more snow that would allow us better tracking conditions.
Thank you for video. Every hunt is not perfect, thanks for showing real life hunt. We all learn and continue to improve.
Thanks so much Jason, that’s exactly right! Our goal is to be as real as possible, and admit when things didn’t go as planned, so you all can learn with us.
Looked like a fun great hunt. Sorry you didn't bag out a good bull this time. Hope you are able and willing to harvest an organic elk next season. Enjoyed the hunt with you ! !
This is the reason I find dead bulls in Wyoming every year
It’s a true gut wrenching experience when it happens. You train all year to prevent it from happening. Our hope is that the bull made a full recovery.
Yes They seem to forget they injured an animal and that wound will kill them with infection and they don't have a chance of surviving the winter. Sick that they leave them like that
Those injured animals get infection and die a slow death . They don't have a chance of surviving the winter months.
430 yard shot while the wind is howling and the bull is quartered and moving, not a very smart shot at all. No wonder you didn’t recover him, you should of punched your tag and not hunted anymore. You know good and well this bull didn’t survive, but you could careless you were just worried about getting a kill on video. People will do anything for kill videos
i hate it when hunters wound an animal and keep hunting. if you pull the trigger and the elk is hit - dead or unrecovered, that should be the conclusion of your hunting tag. i don't respect anyone who feels different about that
Reminds me of a bull we hit in the shoulder with a bow about 5 years back. Lots of blood, but never stopped. Ran out of blood after two miles. They’re just tough animals!
Yes they are! Have a lot of respect for their will to live. Amazing animals!
Your 400 yard shot should never have been taken if you couldn't put him down then. You re giving the impression of "killers" not hunters. Being from Wyoming, you're giving hunting a bad reputation. Terrible.
I agree 100persent .those injured animals die of infection and don't have a chance of surviving the winter months
that bullet did not have enough kinetic energy at 400 yards for a clean kill. you had plenty of time and if you ran out of time, you just reposition closer. why take that shot especially in that wind when you can get closer?
60 years of hunting and never seen so my second basemen giving advise of what this or that should have done. If you hunt enough your going to have an animal get away or not die from the shot and if you don’t your only lying to your self so stop judging and go somewhere else to couch judge!
430 yds is not that far in big country like this especially for a 300 mag. To bad for the animal the hit was poor. IMO, its not that they are so tough but that the shooting is often not up to par
You’re so right! We try to be prepared for these types of backcountry hunts both from a physical aspect as well as our marksmanship. But we can always improve.
Great comment. We spend a lot of time on the bench but there is always room to improve.
They are that tough! 60 years of elk and deer hunting and seeing shots from 270’s to 30/378 weatherby shot placement is very important and you keep firing until they drop and even then you had better be ready for anything
It's called..... WIND DRIFT. And it is damn near impossible to account for, accurately, when gusting like it was for that shot. A GUESS is about the best you can do and a GUESS is rarely going to bring the outcome we want, consistently.
You’re probably right Michael. Kevin felt good on the shot. The outcome unfortunately wasn’t what we wanted.
And QUIT attempting ridiculous 400 yard shots. If you aren't able to out smart the animal, stalking, tracking etc.. you shouldn't be out there doing that. Do your job and a 150 to 250 yard shot will happen more times than not. If you're truly a smart hunter.
Them Elk are more worried about getting killed by wolfs than hunters, should be a hundred elk not ten in 50 square miles
Love these guys attitude and energy! Would love to be able to hunt with a group of guys like this!
Thanks Scott! We love hunting in rough country! Very blessed for sure!
What's bogus is other hunters complaining about a bad shot - when it happens to many... If it were someone like the Born & Raised/Hush guys & a 80+yard archery shot they'd say the complete opposite........ I have 3 friends that were shot while working at a gas station (robbery) and they were shot 11 times combined & they all survived / 2 still have bullets in their spines but they're doing ok...... Sometimes the Lord simply says not today
How do you like the Pnuma gear? Thinking of getting some.
All of the Pnuma gear has performed well and we recommend it 100%. We’ve hunted will most all the other main brands and feel Pnuma well worth the cost.
Sam Hi who cares about gear when you're watching a criminal act!
Love the show
What ammo/bullet did you use to shoot that bull? 300 Wby is more than enough velocity. With so much blood loss, it could have been well hit but bullet failure.
We believe it hit low brisket in retrospect. There was zero reaction of the bull at time of shot so we believe we hit it below vitals. Tracked it for a long time with the last blood speck being two miles from impact and to our knowledge he didn’t bed down at all.
@@hookedhunting
Had a similar experience with a nice mule deer last fall. Hit it but apparently the bullet didn't expand so there wasn't a lot of blood for tracking. Finally lost sign of any blood. That's why I was curious as to what bullet/ammo you were using. I had a .257 Wby pushing 100 grain Barnes TTSX at about 200 yards. More than enough gun, but didn't recover the buck. Hey, it happens! Anyone who has hunted any length of time knows that.
Comments are a little much on this one. Mountain hunting isn’t shooting whitetails over a feeder.
pretty sad they should be done hunting, bad for our hunting community
Richard, thanks for your comment. Not sure what you mean with “bad for our hunting community”. Kevin was very upset about wounding the bull he shot at so Ken became the main shooter at that point. There’s no worse feeling than wounding an animal.
when the anti hunting and anti gun see things like this it doesn't look very good
I can't get over these people! They are not hunter's, not even close! Actually they are criminals!
You can't get over yourself
unless you shot that elk in the ear, that elk is not surviving old man winter with that injury if he doesn't curl up and die within a few days
Them people don't know how to hunt you not supposed to do that just shooting elk and pivk a different one later that's "BULL" BUT BULL SHIT.
Easy now Santiago, there are many factors that take place during a hunt like this. We train hard so to put the odds in our favor. Unfortunately sometimes it doesn’t work out the way we’d hoped it would. But in the end we did everything we could to recover the bull. Our prayer is the bull made a full recovery.
You have to know your limitations. didn't look like a broadside shot. Should tag out.
Given the distance...wind and shooting angle .. I would call that an unethical shot. Shame on you!
I disagree with the decision to go after a different bull after wounding the first. You should have spent the rest of the hunt searching for that Bull. Too many mistakes made by hunter and outfitter from the shot taken and every step afterward (hard to watch). I suggest you take this video down.
Thanks for the comment Carl. We searched for that bull, and tracked it for miles the first evening, and then about 8 miles going up the mountain the next day. The bull didn't stop, and the blood trail dried up completely. We really felt that the bullet opened up the skin, but didn't hit any vitals. We've tracked 100s of animals through the years, and when a bull goes up the mountain consistently for 8 miles, he's in good shape. We absolutely hate wounding an animal, but felt that if we only posted the successes, that's only part of the story of a hunter. The failures are what we learn from, and although disappointing, felt it was right for others to learn along with us.
This is the saddest video. 430 yrds is a tough shot for a novice. work on your stalk.
Thanks for your comment. We absolutely hate wounding animals. Stalking is a huge part of our hunting strategy. Trying to get as close as we can without spooking the animal and make an ethical shot.
The old-timer should quit using comfortable rounds and. Use something that will knock the animal down. Real men shoot mags! We Dont wound elk we kill them should learn some ethics
Thanks for your comment. Kevin was shooting a .300 Weatherby Mag on this hunt. Unfortunately he did not make a fatal shot. Elk are tough animals and I hate wounding them. I wish we had more snow that would allow us better tracking conditions.
I hunt with a 308... Up to 250yds I'm comfortable at age 75... I've never been accused of being less than a real man... Because don't shoot mags.
Geez what a joke you guys are calling yourselves hunters… absolutely mind boggled at the lack of skills and ethics.