I have been smithing for over 45 years and dealt with all kinds of guns and gun owners. The last 15 years or so I have seen a common trend where the younger generation will sell or trade in Grandpa's old guns for basically scrape metal prices. They all want AR's or something they can modify and do- dad up to some ridiculous contraption that isn't even practical. And you are right, they think if they can assemble an AR that they are gunsmiths. I just keep buying the old stuff and conserving it. Thanks for the videos and be safe out there.
I really like the old stuff. I'm pretty good at metal work. I just REALLY hate woodwork but have been getting better at oil soak removal and good even finish application
@@gunrelatedvids I soak old oil soaked wood in acetone. Just be sure it is completely submerged. Badly oiled ones take up to 24 hours or longer to get clean. Acetone does not swell the wood or make it fuzzy.
Nice, I just finally finished restoring my Great Grandpa's Crescent Arms double barrel 12 ga. It was a learning curve, but fun none the less. Sometimes doing it yourself is just the way to go.
Awesome Video, I did a rebuild on an Ithaca Flues my late brother had given to me in pieces. Fun Gun, but the screws are terribly soft, I also have a Remington 1900 in progress, fitted the wood and replaced a firing pin, I have it to the point of exterior finish work and need to get the old girl finished up. You Guys are so right, Gun and Fun are just one letter apart. Have a Wonderful Day Gentlemen, Chet
Good point, I use a gunsmith that about an hour away, there are some closer, but not as talented. The guy I use can do it all, and will tell you what to have done and no too, he says I can do it but don’t waste you money…Trust means a lot ! Nice job guys!
Awesome video on a subject that needs so much more coverage! Links to sources for parts would be golden! Numerich, Jack first and the usually helpful sites are mostly useless for the older side x sides. I have an 1898-1924 Belgium SxS I'd love to restore but I'm dead in the water until I find sideplates and a few screws😢 what do y'alls think of plumb blue on these old SxS?
They almost always get that plum color! Keep searching eBay for those parts and try just googling them. I get parts from some amazing places. I once found a rare rear sight for a BSA .22 rifle located in England (on eBay) and snapped it up. Roy
It works great, puts the bearing surface all of the way around the receiver to stock interface. Which you ALREADY understand. Never seen a stock split/crack that's had this done. In a 2 piece rifle design it CAN even make it more accurate. Some people think it's better to leave the tangs of the receiver un-bedded so that they don't bear at all. I used to do it that way but I haven't found it to make a difference.
Being a general gunsmith would be a fantastic career... Except you need a workshop.... and tools.... and probably a house and land. These things are unaffordable anymore unless you inherit them by the generation who could afford them. If you are lucky enough to get these things, then the advertising to showcase said talents and services would have to somehow survive across firearms-hating tech companies that dominate the media space. I think I just identified why there's less and less of general smiths.
It can happen for anyone Exo. I started at the kitchen table working out of an old fishing tackle box. Once the word gets out, watch out, they’ll come running for you to fix their guns! Roy
Resurrecting an old Stevens 5100 double shotgun is awesome!!!
They were good solid guns and this one has great bones. Roy
I have been smithing for over 45 years and dealt with all kinds of guns and gun owners. The last 15 years or so I have seen a common trend where the younger generation will sell or trade in Grandpa's old guns for basically scrape metal prices. They all want AR's or something they can modify and do- dad up to some ridiculous contraption that isn't even practical. And you are right, they think if they can assemble an AR that they are gunsmiths. I just keep buying the old stuff and conserving it. Thanks for the videos and be safe out there.
Appreciate your comment Roger. And you’re sure right about the selling off of cool old guns to buy plastic! Roy
I really like the old stuff. I'm pretty good at metal work. I just REALLY hate woodwork but have been getting better at oil soak removal and good even finish application
@@gunrelatedvids I soak old oil soaked wood in acetone. Just be sure it is completely submerged. Badly oiled ones take up to 24 hours or longer to get clean. Acetone does not swell the wood or make it fuzzy.
Agreed. Good old fashioned oven cleaner does a great job too. Spray it on old newspaper or something then leave it in the sun. Roy
@@rogerray7820 i was going to use whiting on this one. Oil soak is moderate on the wrist. I've had good results with heating using a heat gun
Great pod cast and love to see those old guns brought back to life and used. Good job Roy and Brent!
Hey Richard! I shoulda' thought to invite you to dinner. Next time! Roy
@@fmgpubs Hi Roy, no worries and yes I look forward to seeing you and Suzi and to meet Brent.
Great vidio thank you
You bet sir. Roy
Love Doubles. Just so versatile and effective
Nice, I just finally finished restoring my Great Grandpa's Crescent Arms double barrel 12 ga. It was a learning curve, but fun none the less. Sometimes doing it yourself is just the way to go.
One of the old “Hardware Store” shotguns make great candidates to learn on. Well done! Roy
Love this , I have a twenty 20 gauge
The 20s my favorite. I have a minty 311 in 20 Ga. (I think that’s it?) and it has spent lots of time in dove fields with me. Roy
Awesome Video, I did a rebuild on an Ithaca Flues my late brother had given to me in pieces. Fun Gun, but the screws are terribly soft, I also have a Remington 1900 in progress, fitted the wood and replaced a firing pin, I have it to the point of exterior finish work and need to get the old girl finished up. You Guys are so right, Gun and Fun are just one letter apart. Have a Wonderful Day Gentlemen, Chet
Go get ‘em Chet. I love to get old guns running again. Roy
Nice video! Thanks guys. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
You bet Doug. Thanks for tuning in. It was a spur of the moment because Brent was visiting. Roy
Good point, I use a gunsmith that about an hour away, there are some closer, but not as talented. The guy I use can do it all, and will tell you what to have done and no too, he says I can do it but don’t waste you money…Trust means a lot ! Nice job guys!
Thanks Bill. That's the sort of guy you're lucky to have! Roy
Great video! Very helpful info. Do you mind sharing where you purchased the stock? I've been scouring the internet and haven't found much. Thanks!
I’ll ask Brent to post that. I’m not sure. Roy
Okay, Brent said it was an eBay find about a year ago. Roy
Actually, it seems it might have originally come from Numrich Arms (The Gun Parts Company or GPC). Roy
Awesome video on a subject that needs so much more coverage! Links to sources for parts would be golden! Numerich, Jack first and the usually helpful sites are mostly useless for the older side x sides. I have an 1898-1924 Belgium SxS I'd love to restore but I'm dead in the water until I find sideplates and a few screws😢 what do y'alls think of plumb blue on these old SxS?
They almost always get that plum color! Keep searching eBay for those parts and try just googling them. I get parts from some amazing places. I once found a rare rear sight for a BSA .22 rifle located in England (on eBay) and snapped it up. Roy
There's some guys selling one at the flea market for 250 so I'm going to pay attention to this one for sure😅
Roy I need that apron in my life. Who makes it?
It’s a great apron. I bought a half dozen! Duluth Trading Company. Roy
@ thank you sir!
How much would that shotgun go for now at a carboot sale in fair condition thank you
They are in the $300 to $500 range depending on condition. Roy
@@fmgpubs thank you Roy
How to restore a double-barrel shotgun he said... hmmmm. I Pick up my phone and call Doug Turnbull Restorations. ^~^ What?? too easy??? 0~o
Indeed …. they do such amazing work …. But it sure isn’t free! Roy
@@fmgpubs the good never are. ^~^
I always bed those type of stocks all of the way around the action so that they don't crack or split later.
A great idea Jeff. Roy
It works great, puts the bearing surface all of the way around the receiver to stock interface. Which you ALREADY understand.
Never seen a stock split/crack that's had this done.
In a 2 piece rifle design it CAN even make it more accurate.
Some people think it's better to leave the tangs of the receiver un-bedded so that they don't bear at all.
I used to do it that way but I haven't found it to make a difference.
Would you do this to a $250,000 Holland&Holland though? Stay safe ;-)
Nope. They scare me .... Roy
;-)
Being a general gunsmith would be a fantastic career...
Except you need a workshop.... and tools.... and probably a house and land. These things are unaffordable anymore unless you inherit them by the generation who could afford them. If you are lucky enough to get these things, then the advertising to showcase said talents and services would have to somehow survive across firearms-hating tech companies that dominate the media space.
I think I just identified why there's less and less of general smiths.
It can happen for anyone Exo. I started at the kitchen table working out of an old fishing tackle box. Once the word gets out, watch out, they’ll come running for you to fix their guns! Roy
@@fmgpubs Indeed it can. It's just not a reliable road map as things currently sit in America. Wish it were better.