For anyone who doesn't know, autoing in bushes creates an area of lingering vision in that bush for a few seconds, which can reveal anyone else close to you in that bush, even if you walk out of it, or if that ally walks in after. You could auto in one edge of the bush, and still be hidden on the other edge. You can try it out in practice tool. Although, I dont remember if you had to walk out first for that.
That clearly was due to the burn of corrupting pot tho, just like ignite DoTs reveal targets I think so minions never lost vision of him due to the burn
Saskio teaching Neace Vayne: "Yeah just do this next time. Yeah it's all good! No worries!" Neace teaching anyone else on Vayne:" WTF ARE YOU DOING!?!?!? AUTO HIM! STOP D***ING AROUND AND JUST AUTO HIM!!!"
@@KyraMoonspell why pay neace 250 to tell him you don't like the way he coaches? It seems to me like the people who pay for his coaching enjoy it to some extent. It's not like he's the only person offering coaching.
@@seandunbar6427 Sorry, this will be long... True, he is not the only coach out there. Still, Neace had done some really good coachings, he is worth all the money - that is, UNTIL he starts yelling and intimidating his clients. I get confused as to why clients accept this and do not tell him they feel uncomfortable or blocked or even scared (which they clearly do, you can feel it in the way they are reacting) and do not ask him to stop. There are other ways to make you see your mistakes and help you improve besides sh*tting on you, and I'm positive Neace could find some too, it's just that nobody seem to ask him trying to. Students, although intimidated and scared, continue the session without expressing what they feel. That is my previous comment about. If a teacher cannot make their point, cannot get through to the student, it means they did not find the correct way to teach that specific student. To be effective as a teacher requires being able to change the approach, not getting angry and frustrated and taking that anger and frustration out on the student. Neace is doing exactly that. This is his personal problem and clients could help him improve on it by letting him know when he reaches the point when it gets unacceptable. I hope this makes sense.
The recent increase in content is amazing. Keep it up and you’ll reach even more eyes. Proud of you man, been here since the 100 games to diamond series and looking forward to the future.
I LOVE this series. I feel like most champion guides are oftentimes unnecessarily long, and lack practical examples of the teachings, both things that this format cleans up. Please keep em coming!
I don't play Vayne and never intend to but I was absolutely hooked watching this, just really impressed with Saskio's understanding of the champion, her range, and her limitations. Like one of those how it's made videos. Anyone who does play an ADC in any lane, or has complained about ADC in 20anything needs to see this. Please keep doing NEACE gets Coached, this and the xPetu Shen video are some of my favorite content.
You know that it's a good video when they've been discussing level 2 by 15 minutes, unlike some other "coach pro tips" channels where they say "all of the match is based on the first 5 minutes, win the laning phase to get high elo, we guarantee you divisions and refunds and...." bullshit, it's either NEACE or no one, props to him.
I love these videos of you getting coached because you are an expert coach and can see and point out the stuff we should be learning. I have learned a ton from watching you coach but these videos of you getting coached might be my favourites!
This is why I like watching neace so much. He’s actually a really humble guy. It’s hard to be a coach and then turn around and be coach. As a coach you’re presumably the expert, so showing yourself being nitpicked is hard. Big thumbs up cause this was super interesting!
Clearly you don’t understand what humble is… he spent 12 minutes arguing with his coach… constantly speaking over him . Neace is uncoachable… too busy talking and not listening
I love these videos. It is fun to see how small mistakes just add up. Neace is really good at cotching other players about their small mistakes and here we can watch more small mistakes. I have noticed in my games the first 5 mins almost determines the outcome of the game.
It's a really really good content! I loved every second of it. I already love and follow Saskio, but after this video, I started to follow you as well. You question yourself, your modesty, you are a really high quality person. After all, we are students in this life, regardless of our age and experience. Big respect. Keep it up.
Games to learn off of are the best. The numerical and mechanical details though of this coaching was insane. Loved the video. What a perfect game for a coaching session.
I love these videos. Neace just digesting info and sharing what he learned. I don't play Vayne but now I feel like I can confidently, taking notes from everything he realized.
Props to saskio man , he is so strained on what he does. Amazing content in the PowerPoint and document . And what amazed me more about him, he coached you a lot of vayne ideas,and he was actually coaching macro in the game , TO YOU , who has a incredible understandmrnt in wave management. The way he pokes and uses is own Minions to have more impact on trade. I AM just amazed by him, really well done by bouth of u
Another off topic question, you're my go to guy for information. I'm climbing out of the gutter, I had to quit Talon at a 32% winrate after about 300 games until the T's for Talon video comes out later in the alphabet. I've been "climbing" with shyvana pretty well, except I'm not getting anywhere. I played all day today, went 8-3, and the 2 loses wiped all the LP I gained thru the entire day and I'm back where I started. It was top laner afk and a no vote for free mitigation, but that's beside the point. Had I lost 2 games fairly it still would've undone all the work I did today. My question is how does LP work? I get around 10 for a win, and -25 for a loss. It varies around those areas, but it seems unfairly lopsided
Its the domination tree scaling ad/ap time out on wards rune, you place it asap and you'll get ad once it times out. Thats why they were talking about the 1 ad at the start of the video, while waiting in brushes.
Does the burn from corrupting give true sight? It looked like you were burning in the level 1 skirmish with jax which would explain why the casters targeted you in the bush.
It's amazing when someone who actually know a lot about the game coaches you. Remove the "challenger" from your coaching neace, you shouldn't even be coaching low masters
So true, this was an embarrassing performance. So many gaps in knowledge like vayne tumble cancel and also how can you not Flash malph r on 30ping that shit is so easy.
Not a high skill player here, but I see many vayne and range tops fall behind when they cant get an easy cheese and snowball early, but it's such a frustrating matchup to play against
Yo @Neace, the minions didn’t break aggro on you in that level one brush because you had corrupting pot procs maintaining aggro and keeping vision for those creeps!
Well Neace It may sound non obvious. But the games who tell how good you are as a player aren't actually the games that go smooth start to finish ... it's the games that put you in a stressful and unpredictable situation.
i think neace is missing a lot of complexity on adc champs. For obvious reasons, dont get me wrong, as he is main jungle/top. I think he wil benefit a lot from the coachings that he could get from adc mains. I would love to see a Taco coaching on jhin. Cause is a way more complex champ than neace thinks, and i think taco will be down to collab. for sure. Keep it up, loving the content
When you think you were good at adc at one point, could play a bit of Vayne. Had that good adc movement and spacing, at least to a respectable level.. Then you see this. 🥵
6:08 can't the minion in the middle of the wave right now see you, giving vision to the team, therefore giving vision to the casters to continue pursuing?
Also they need to put refills and the ability to purchase moee wards/pinks and lantern on Wild Rift, it makes for more interesting and fun match up and more ability to not get thrown outta lane. Just thinki ng outlijd
When quick casting Flash, the furthest you can travel in the direction of where your mouse was pointing is your Flash's max range (long flash). If you point inside that max range, you will land at the cursor's actual location instead (short flash). This way you can control the landing point more precisely.
Listening to neace being told not to look at a fight on the map was hilarious
33:29
@@minombreesirrelevante4407 youre a hero
Lmfao bro right!
He just wants that tasty info!
The "Coach gets coached" series is by far your best content.
For anyone who doesn't know, autoing in bushes creates an area of lingering vision in that bush for a few seconds, which can reveal anyone else close to you in that bush, even if you walk out of it, or if that ally walks in after. You could auto in one edge of the bush, and still be hidden on the other edge. You can try it out in practice tool. Although, I dont remember if you had to walk out first for that.
That clearly was due to the burn of corrupting pot tho, just like ignite DoTs reveal targets I think so minions never lost vision of him due to the burn
Saskio teaching Neace Vayne: "Yeah just do this next time. Yeah it's all good! No worries!"
Neace teaching anyone else on Vayne:" WTF ARE YOU DOING!?!?!? AUTO HIM! STOP D***ING AROUND AND JUST AUTO HIM!!!"
I wonder if there ever will be a student who has the balls to yell back at him and tell him to stfu and do his job in a civilized manner
@@KyraMoonspell why pay neace 250 to tell him you don't like the way he coaches? It seems to me like the people who pay for his coaching enjoy it to some extent. It's not like he's the only person offering coaching.
@@seandunbar6427 Sorry, this will be long... True, he is not the only coach out there. Still, Neace had done some really good coachings, he is worth all the money - that is, UNTIL he starts yelling and intimidating his clients. I get confused as to why clients accept this and do not tell him they feel uncomfortable or blocked or even scared (which they clearly do, you can feel it in the way they are reacting) and do not ask him to stop. There are other ways to make you see your mistakes and help you improve besides sh*tting on you, and I'm positive Neace could find some too, it's just that nobody seem to ask him trying to. Students, although intimidated and scared, continue the session without expressing what they feel. That is my previous comment about. If a teacher cannot make their point, cannot get through to the student, it means they did not find the correct way to teach that specific student. To be effective as a teacher requires being able to change the approach, not getting angry and frustrated and taking that anger and frustration out on the student. Neace is doing exactly that. This is his personal problem and clients could help him improve on it by letting him know when he reaches the point when it gets unacceptable. I hope this makes sense.
@@KyraMoonspell bro they are being coached on league💀 everyone's toxic.
@@sithrice83 tend to forget that sometimes and think there is still hope for humanity 🤣😎😁
The recent increase in content is amazing. Keep it up and you’ll reach even more eyes. Proud of you man, been here since the 100 games to diamond series and looking forward to the future.
Got to spoil you he gets coached on udyr!!!!
As a vayne main. Coming into this new patch. This is EXACTLY what I been waiting on. Good shit neace !!!
This is gold
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@@konstandinoskanatis5691 Don't hate from outside the club friend 🤣
@@pkphantom he’s probably a Tanky top main. 🤣
this can do two ways, are you a vayne TOP or vayne bot?
I LOVE this series. I feel like most champion guides are oftentimes unnecessarily long, and lack practical examples of the teachings, both things that this format cleans up. Please keep em coming!
I don't play Vayne and never intend to but I was absolutely hooked watching this, just really impressed with Saskio's understanding of the champion, her range, and her limitations. Like one of those how it's made videos. Anyone who does play an ADC in any lane, or has complained about ADC in 20anything needs to see this. Please keep doing NEACE gets Coached, this and the xPetu Shen video are some of my favorite content.
You know that it's a good video when they've been discussing level 2 by 15 minutes, unlike some other "coach pro tips" channels where they say "all of the match is based on the first 5 minutes, win the laning phase to get high elo, we guarantee you divisions and refunds and...." bullshit, it's either NEACE or no one, props to him.
I love these videos of you getting coached because you are an expert coach and can see and point out the stuff we should be learning. I have learned a ton from watching you coach but these videos of you getting coached might be my favourites!
I loved the "LIFE STEAL LIFE STEAL LIFE STEAL" panicked scream. Had me cracking up XD
This is why I like watching neace so much. He’s actually a really humble guy. It’s hard to be a coach and then turn around and be coach. As a coach you’re presumably the expert, so showing yourself being nitpicked is hard. Big thumbs up cause this was super interesting!
Clearly you don’t understand what humble is… he spent 12 minutes arguing with his coach… constantly speaking over him . Neace is uncoachable… too busy talking and not listening
@@hebisty4163 lol mkaaaayyy
I love these videos. It is fun to see how small mistakes just add up. Neace is really good at cotching other players about their small mistakes and here we can watch more small mistakes. I have noticed in my games the first 5 mins almost determines the outcome of the game.
Bloody hell, this is peak content mate. Awesome insights, love this!
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dude it's putting Neace on the spotttttt but like, this is so cool.
My favorite Neace videos are watching him get coached. He practices the principles he teaches. Thats awesome.
It's a really really good content! I loved every second of it. I already love and follow Saskio, but after this video, I started to follow you as well. You question yourself, your modesty, you are a really high quality person. After all, we are students in this life, regardless of our age and experience. Big respect. Keep it up.
Feeding the algorithm to say this is my favorite video you've released so far. I personally very much enjoyed watching the process of you learning.
Games to learn off of are the best. The numerical and mechanical details though of this coaching was insane. Loved the video. What a perfect game for a coaching session.
I really appreciate how humble you are in receiving coaching. Awesome vid 👍
21:12 prob the cleanest flash I've seen from Neace. I love these "I got coached" vids. Great content Mr. Neace, thank you.
26:12 **
I love these videos. Neace just digesting info and sharing what he learned. I don't play Vayne but now I feel like I can confidently, taking notes from everything he realized.
What's the purpose of warding immediately at the start of the game?
That minion-bush-vision thing in the first game was really interesting to see. Kinda crazy that they can see past the bush like that 😂
I think the minion below the 2 range minions was why they had vision
Was corruption pot dmg that gave vision.
The melee minions were in range of Neace to give vision to the other minions
I like how he pointed out every tiny mistake you made and nitpicked on the details. It was like watching neace coach neace.
I think its natural bc at this high level of gameplay, the details are very much the things that matter
But his coaching was so much more respectfully than he does it to others. Bullying and complaining about reactions
Props to saskio man , he is so strained on what he does. Amazing content in the PowerPoint and document .
And what amazed me more about him, he coached you a lot of vayne ideas,and he was actually coaching macro in the game , TO YOU , who has a incredible understandmrnt in wave management. The way he pokes and uses is own Minions to have more impact on trade.
I AM just amazed by him, really well done by bouth of u
"A true master is an eternal student" - Master Yi
Vayne main here, loved this coaching. Some nice mechanical tips and champion specific matchup tips.
lmao the AAAH lifesteal lifesteal! when karthus ulted xD
What does the warding in base at the start of a match do?
Also, i respect your view of wanting to give it a fighting chance at making a comebacj, Malphite is definitely a difficult match up.
This was great. Im very excited for neace when he can learn something you know that will only make his content better as well!
Another off topic question, you're my go to guy for information.
I'm climbing out of the gutter, I had to quit Talon at a 32% winrate after about 300 games until the T's for Talon video comes out later in the alphabet.
I've been "climbing" with shyvana pretty well, except I'm not getting anywhere. I played all day today, went 8-3, and the 2 loses wiped all the LP I gained thru the entire day and I'm back where I started. It was top laner afk and a no vote for free mitigation, but that's beside the point. Had I lost 2 games fairly it still would've undone all the work I did today.
My question is how does LP work? I get around 10 for a win, and -25 for a loss. It varies around those areas, but it seems unfairly lopsided
Make a new account.
You are not salvaging a shitty mmr account unless you go like 50-10 for a week or smth.
Just joined recently, these videos are my favourite league content right now.
That was a good coaching, and coach-to-coach talk at the end.
*Team had double the kills of the enemy team*
Both coaches: HOw dO thEy hAVe bOuntiES!?
Nice :D my favorite type of video's when NEAC gets coached , LOVE IT !!!
That intro fire tho. The quality of video is primo Chief.
Like your attitude bro . Genuine
Life Steal , life Steal, Life Steal !! I was lmao xD that guy was so into it !
Great content as always dude !!
Doesnt malphite do magic dmg? Im just curious and confused as to why you took steel caps?
question.... why place the ward in base at the start of the game? that must do something but can't figure out what
Its the domination tree scaling ad/ap time out on wards rune, you place it asap and you'll get ad once it times out. Thats why they were talking about the 1 ad at the start of the video, while waiting in brushes.
@@80085ftw wicked thanks dude
@@steveyboi998 no problem, godspeed
Does the burn from corrupting give true sight? It looked like you were burning in the level 1 skirmish with jax which would explain why the casters targeted you in the bush.
I love Neace Gets Coached.
6:00 does the corrupting pot burn grant vision?
yes
no ignite gives true sight
@@jsgraz corrupting pot burns people, aka gives true sight
I want to know how to beat vayne
@@cupidok2768 It's nothing but a massive skill check bro
That new intro is FIRE! 🔥🔥🔥
The corruption burn is why the minions saw you
I can't believe I managed to enter this video without an ad, fucking miracle
I think the minions could still see you because you can see them already starting their auto attack animation right before you re-entered the bush
or maybe the minion actually kinda enterd the bush so they can still see him
It's the third minion further away that can still see him.
first time i was cheering for neaces opponent, you go malph! Cool coach session tho
😂
*obligatory praising of this great series*
It's amazing when someone who actually know a lot about the game coaches you. Remove the "challenger" from your coaching neace, you shouldn't even be coaching low masters
So true, this was an embarrassing performance. So many gaps in knowledge like vayne tumble cancel and also how can you not Flash malph r on 30ping that shit is so easy.
Why the ward at the fountain when the game began? I'm curious
Wonder why is it better to go with AD first on a Vayne instead of attack speed?
Really liked this video as a vayne player!
wait why @15:00 did neace ward the fountain at the beginning of the second game. can someone explain that to me
In case the enemies would do a deep invade bro
also wondering
now I got it ....ghost poro 1 ad plus :D
sorry for asking but who is challanger coach?
in that lvl 1 skirmish, he maintained vision because he had the corrupting burn on you which gave him vision on you for a few seconds
Not a high skill player here, but I see many vayne and range tops fall behind when they cant get an easy cheese and snowball early, but it's such a frustrating matchup to play against
Yo @Neace, the minions didn’t break aggro on you in that level one brush because you had corrupting pot procs maintaining aggro and keeping vision for those creeps!
Anybody got the song at 18:59?
15:35 whats the purpose of warding at the base? i dont get it
Well Neace
It may sound non obvious.
But the games who tell how good you are as a player aren't actually the games that go smooth start to finish ... it's the games that put you in a stressful and unpredictable situation.
Liked before watching cuz neace getting coached is always entertaining
This is one of your best videos neace
i think neace is missing a lot of complexity on adc champs. For obvious reasons, dont get me wrong, as he is main jungle/top. I think he wil benefit a lot from the coachings that he could get from adc mains. I would love to see a Taco coaching on jhin. Cause is a way more complex champ than neace thinks, and i think taco will be down to collab. for sure. Keep it up, loving the content
There's like 1000 better players than taco lmao wtf
those minions saw you in the bush because of corruption burn... like ignite
I learned a lot here, very nice!
@Neace I am a huge fan of these durability changes. Gonna actually start building zhonyas now since ill have time to activate it lol.
15:22 why we ward in the fountain?
Why ward immediately upon load in in game #2?
I would like to see you being coached by Thebausffs on Sion.
Corruption pot why he had vision from burn in bush or?
Yoooo I haven't watched in a while but just wanna say if the intro is new its awesome, and a nice switch.
Loved the vid! If possible, I think it would be really interesting to do this with KatEvolved
FINALLY VAYNE YESS
When you think you were good at adc at one point, could play a bit of Vayne. Had that good adc movement and spacing, at least to a respectable level.. Then you see this. 🥵
is this part2 of coaching? Am i missing something?
I assumed that vision thing at lvl 1 was from the burn of corrupting pot
My favorite series ! Always a wow
why did he ward in base as soon as game starts? i did not get it
oh the Jinx is so new. "Gonna be useless for 30 mins". My friend, if you will actually have 30 mins to be useless it is already very good
Favorite episode so far. Love this shit man gg.
lmao I love when neace gets coached
I love these, please do one on Vlad with elite
You had vision on you from corrupting pot. It was still burning.
6:08 can't the minion in the middle of the wave right now see you, giving vision to the team, therefore giving vision to the casters to continue pursuing?
Also they need to put refills and the ability to purchase moee wards/pinks and lantern on Wild Rift, it makes for more interesting and fun match up and more ability to not get thrown outta lane. Just thinki ng outlijd
Why did he place his ward at the fountain?
A VAYNE VIDEO 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
btw saskio level up abilities with mouse 😂😂😂
is this patch 12.10?
Only vayne top to challenger?
34:00 imagine if you ulted! Would have been amazing. Why did you hold it?
I just won a Vayne top match so this is perfect timing.
What's a long flash and a short flash????
When quick casting Flash, the furthest you can travel in the direction of where your mouse was pointing is your Flash's max range (long flash). If you point inside that max range, you will land at the cursor's actual location instead (short flash). This way you can control the landing point more precisely.
Neace i think its because of corrupting potion burn that the minions can still see you! :)
I think corrupting pot gave the casters vision of you^^
Most importantly, it’s better to play around bush two so that you aren’t missing XP from the wave.
corrupting pot burn is what gave him vision here, no? idk if anyone has answered that.