Mace Windu beat Palpatine fair and square with Vaapad, a Variant of Juyo, the 7th Lightsaber form and was the most aggressive style. Him using Vaapad was the deciding factor, its in the Revenge of the Sith Novelisation which is CANON, even after the disney acquisition, all the prequel Episode books are.
Wrong. Palpatine let him win, the vaapad he used against him wasnt palpatines but anakins. in the books palpatine notices it and after windu says your scared palpatine says you sense anakin
This is the same George who said in the forc Palpatine would crush mace His only equal in the light was yoda mace only one the lightsaber battle not the fight to the death and could not win a fight to the death Palpatine played his game to stall for anikin he knew he was coming
Mace Windu had a particular lightsaber style (Vaapad) that absorbed dark side energy.....as powerful as palpatine was.....he just absorbed and transmuted his dark side energy and fed it into his own power to defeat him. Palpatine had no knowledge of this style....which was why he was deafated.
In an interview around 2005 or 2006, Lucas said Palpatine pretended to be beaten so Anakin could finish his turn to the dark side. If he was powerful enough to go undetected by the Jedi in the PT, then why wouldn't he be able to pretend to be beaten against Mace also?
Hey Tyrone regarding Mace Windu beating Palpatine, my opinion is that Mace did beat him, because Mace was the creator and only practitioner of a form of fighting and force using called Vapaad, which totally redirects your enemies power and attacks against them, to an unlimited amount, so the more you attack Mace the more it will hurt you, since I don't think Palpatine knew that, he wasn't ready for it and genuinely lost. Some people also think that Palpatine could sense that Anakin was on the way and wanted to use the situation to turn him more to the dark side, which is a good argument. I just personally think with Mace Windu being one of the most powerful Jedi in addition to his overpowered technique to turn an enemies power against them, that he did in fact win. And now we will see him return in SWT Vader Episode 2 and see how powerful he is.
@@spanishsupafly no, that wasn't Vaapad, Palpatine was simply putting on a show by that point. Vaapad is the lightsaber form Mace used when dueling. Throughout the duel, Palpatine uses the dark side and his hate to increase the speed/power behind his attacks. But Mace's Vaapad allowed him to benefit from Palpatine's dark side energy as well. The longer the duel progressed, the stronger Mace became until eventually he disarms Palpatine. The Force lightning had nothing to do with it.
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"the villainess was actually a powerful misunderstood woman.." makes sense that Harvey's personal assistant would identify with that. The problem is that Star Wars is about good vs evil.. and Disney is full of Sith apologists.
Man Theory even spoke to Ian himself and asked this question. He said Palps threw the fight for definite. He needed to be in a position for anakin to help him and made damn sure he was in the right place at the right time.
I laugh at the fact, that people 20 years ago thought, that Jara Jar and the "sand-monologue was the worst thing which could happen to SW. Looking back, both of these things look like Shakespeare in comparison to Acolyte and everything disney produced.
Lucas has to support Iger due to his selling agreement. 100% some publicist wrote his statement. He’s putting Star Wars behind him. He probably hates Iger personally though.
Depends on the continuation and which novel. In shatterpoint it’s explained as well as the novelization of episode 3 I believe that mace was the only one able to beat palp in a duel because he can access both the light and dark and use the powers of the dark side against his opponent. That’s actually what the purple lightsaber meant before Disney retconned it to just a crystal they find. That’s also why the purple saber was to be so rare in the universe and only really Revan was the one who had one cuz they could both access dark and light in different ways obviously but that’s the explanation. Yes Mace canonically originally legit beat palps because he was that powerful.
I think it's fair to assume Mace Windu legitimately disarmed Palpatine, but Sheev didn't put a lot of emphasis on lightsabers. He had that force lightning in his back pocket and he knew it.
1:09 I liked Ahsoka but these upcoming Rey and Acolyte projects I’m gonna pass on. I hope they feel uncomfortable when people walk away from their “activism”. SMDH.
I really don't think that was George. It had to be someone else speaking for him. I need to hear it out of his mouth. What do they have over him? Or what did they offer him?
I'm with you Tyrone, the fan in my is wondering whats going on with Lucas, my best guess is there was SOME DEAL made behind closed doors...now the question is...what was the deal made between Iger and Lucas? 🤔
I’ve wondered that too on how that scene played out. I lean towards Palpatine timing it all so that he would be laying there “defeated” at Windu’s feet as Anakin entered the room. So that it could appear that he was under assault from the Jedi, helpless and gain Anakin’s sympathy. While also playing on Anakin’s distrust of the Jedi Council, making them look like they were in fact there to overthrow the Republic. Or maybe in that moment Windu did in fact gain the upper hand but Palpatine being so calculating, immediately turned it to his advantage.
The book says Palpatine let windu beat him because he knew anakin was coming and told windu during the fight that the fear your feelig is not from me but anakin, hes on his way
I believe George Lucas also claimed Mace Windu beat Palpatine fair & square. However, I think the ROTS novel (not Canon anymore) basically said that Palps felt Anakin coming and dropped his guard to create the scenario which he met upstairs. I believe myself that Mace won the battle, that's how Lucas created it and that's the correct canon IMO.
It's like everyone on the writing team took a page from Voldemort and Palpatine's book. Good and evil are a matter of perspective. It's kind of a perfect irony considering what we've seen from these people.
6:00 ive heard the emperor acted like that at the end to make anakin feel sympathetic for him, and have him take his side over the jedi. having anakin see im as weak and not in need of killing but mace wouldnt listen to that bs
I don’t get why we can’t just get a decent Star Wars product like it’s not that hard man Like here is an idea cast Keanu reeves and Alexander skarsgard as Jedi or sith let cristopher Nolan or Matt reeves to direct it bam u got the fans back
Keanu Reeves would make a great Jedi Master. His humility would transfer to that role perfectly. Alexander Skarsgard would make a great Sith Lord. After watching The Northman he could just pull of that blind rage and savagery.
I stopped supporting Disney Plus n Star Wars n Marvel till they get their act together again. Last thing I’ve seen from Disney anything was Mandalorian last year.
This is the same George who said in the forc Palpatine would crush mace His only equal in the light was yoda mace only one the lightsaber battle not the fight to the death and could not win a fight to the death Palpatine played his game to stall for anikin he knew he was coming
I believe the Emperor allowed Mace to beat him, i think he saw an opportunity and could feel Anakin close by to take advantage of this. It was too perfect and it felt like something he could orchestrate, also he had that Force lightening in his back pocket, i think he had several cards up his sleeve to takedown Mace.
Mace beat Palpatine. They don't show how devastating the force lightning actually is. It damn near killed Darth Bane when he got hit with his own lightning. Mace deflecting Palpatine's lightning back at him would've killed him a lot sooner had the emperor been just another average sith lord. The only reason he survived it for as long as he did was because he was extremely powerful and he used the force to shield him from the worst of the lightning.
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Mace Windu beat Palpatine fair and square with Vaapad, a Variant of Juyo, the 7th Lightsaber form and was the most aggressive style. Him using Vaapad was the deciding factor, its in the Revenge of the Sith Novelisation which is CANON, even after the disney acquisition, all the prequel Episode books are.
Wrong. Palpatine let him win, the vaapad he used against him wasnt palpatines but anakins. in the books palpatine notices it and after windu says your scared palpatine says you sense anakin
George Lucas said Mace windu won
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15:10 that's the joker and anakin coming out of Mark
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Theory and Lucas has confirmed Mace won straight up. Palpatine did milk it at the end though to get anakin to turn.
This is the same George who said in the forc Palpatine would crush mace His only equal in the light was yoda mace only one the lightsaber battle not the fight to the death and could not win a fight to the death Palpatine played his game to stall for anikin he knew he was coming
Mace Windu had a particular lightsaber style (Vaapad) that absorbed dark side energy.....as powerful as palpatine was.....he just absorbed and transmuted his dark side energy and fed it into his own power to defeat him. Palpatine had no knowledge of this style....which was why he was deafated.
Palpatine was down and disarmed at that point. He was waiting at that point for Anakin to show up to manipulate him further down the dark side.
In an interview around 2005 or 2006, Lucas said Palpatine pretended to be beaten so Anakin could finish his turn to the dark side. If he was powerful enough to go undetected by the Jedi in the PT, then why wouldn't he be able to pretend to be beaten against Mace also?
I'm starting to notice that every black dude in these woke movies got the miles morales haircut lol Is this the only hairstyle we got now?
Apparently they don’t have fades or waves
Hey Tyrone regarding Mace Windu beating Palpatine, my opinion is that Mace did beat him, because Mace was the creator and only practitioner of a form of fighting and force using called Vapaad, which totally redirects your enemies power and attacks against them, to an unlimited amount, so the more you attack Mace the more it will hurt you, since I don't think Palpatine knew that, he wasn't ready for it and genuinely lost.
Some people also think that Palpatine could sense that Anakin was on the way and wanted to use the situation to turn him more to the dark side, which is a good argument. I just personally think with Mace Windu being one of the most powerful Jedi in addition to his overpowered technique to turn an enemies power against them, that he did in fact win.
And now we will see him return in SWT Vader Episode 2 and see how powerful he is.
George said it himself that Mace won fair and square
@@johncampbell9107 I didn't know that, well I guess that settles it then.
So the technique "Vapaad" is what caused Palapatine's electricity attack to backfire and disfigure him?
@@spanishsupafly Yes I believe that is the case.
@@spanishsupafly no, that wasn't Vaapad, Palpatine was simply putting on a show by that point. Vaapad is the lightsaber form Mace used when dueling. Throughout the duel, Palpatine uses the dark side and his hate to increase the speed/power behind his attacks. But Mace's Vaapad allowed him to benefit from Palpatine's dark side energy as well. The longer the duel progressed, the stronger Mace became until eventually he disarms Palpatine.
The Force lightning had nothing to do with it.
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Jar used a light saber one time in comics
It’s true & Pierry Chan is a real master editor Gary has even referred to him as the modern Terry Gilliam, very true
I believe Mace Windu did beat him straight up. And the groveling was to put on a show for Anakin.
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Forced diversity*. But yes, same here.
Yeah diversity for the sake of diversity without an actual story to tell is my problem
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@@KISSFROMGREY how is it forcing diversity, by showing more than one black person? What is the issue with diversity. Let me guess so there shouldn't be fair or equal hiring practices?
@@percybedford6266 Didn't you know? Equal hiring practices was abandoned for equitable hiring practices. Which threw fairness out the window in favor of superficial selection not based on merit, but pity.
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"the villainess was actually a powerful misunderstood woman.." makes sense that Harvey's personal assistant would identify with that. The problem is that Star Wars is about good vs evil.. and Disney is full of Sith apologists.
Man Theory even spoke to Ian himself and asked this question. He said Palps threw the fight for definite. He needed to be in a position for anakin to help him and made damn sure he was in the right place at the right time.
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It was him walking into the lava that got me lmaooo
I laugh at the fact, that people 20 years ago thought, that Jara Jar and the "sand-monologue was the worst thing which could happen to SW. Looking back, both of these things look like Shakespeare in comparison to Acolyte and everything disney produced.
Lucas has to support Iger due to his selling agreement. 100% some publicist wrote his statement. He’s putting Star Wars behind him. He probably hates Iger personally though.
Depends on the continuation and which novel. In shatterpoint it’s explained as well as the novelization of episode 3 I believe that mace was the only one able to beat palp in a duel because he can access both the light and dark and use the powers of the dark side against his opponent. That’s actually what the purple lightsaber meant before Disney retconned it to just a crystal they find. That’s also why the purple saber was to be so rare in the universe and only really Revan was the one who had one cuz they could both access dark and light in different ways obviously but that’s the explanation. Yes Mace canonically originally legit beat palps because he was that powerful.
Funny, I used a purple lightsaber in my recent Kotor playthrough. It's my favorite color.
The Revenge of the Sith novel goes into a lot more detail. Great video as always!!!
Bob and kennedy there will always be 2 sith lords
Oi! Don't insult the sith order by lumping those two with us. We have standards! 😬
Mace won; some cut scenes made it clear that he overpowered him.
THEY HAVE LUCAS BY THE BALLS! He either supports Disney or they destroy him.
I think it's fair to assume Mace Windu legitimately disarmed Palpatine, but Sheev didn't put a lot of emphasis on lightsabers. He had that force lightning in his back pocket and he knew it.
They succeeded in turning the Star Wars Holiday Special into a masterpiece.
What? That's like…one of the worst pieces of media of all time. And it's better than the acolyte because of diversity?
Yeah it killed it with me when they said it was being done by harvey former assisted. Like hard no for me boss.
1:09 I liked Ahsoka but these upcoming Rey and Acolyte projects I’m gonna pass on.
I hope they feel uncomfortable when people walk away from their “activism”. SMDH.
that comment about being "some kinda acolyte" aged like fine wine man. That is legit a line in this atrocious catastrophic debacle
Can't wait for this show to get ripped to shreds. Disney's Star Wars is just Zombie Star Wars at this point.
Well.... at least the comment section of that video is entertaining.
I really don't think that was George. It had to be someone else speaking for him. I need to hear it out of his mouth. What do they have over him? Or what did they offer him?
Funny, I always loved Jar Jar. Maybe he was was a Secret Sith or may the Jedi had a secret Harlem GlobeTrotter Sect.
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As a female i hate disney
Mace has a brother thats more powerful than Yoda and rivaled Anakin.
Mace didn’t lose, he was bamboozled.
Keep entertaining us Tyrone 😀
I'm with you Tyrone, the fan in my is wondering whats going on with Lucas, my best guess is there was SOME DEAL made behind closed doors...now the question is...what was the deal made between Iger and Lucas? 🤔
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George Lucas said in an interview that Mace beat him 😊
I’ve wondered that too on how that scene played out. I lean towards Palpatine timing it all so that he would be laying there “defeated” at Windu’s feet as Anakin entered the room. So that it could appear that he was under assault from the Jedi, helpless and gain Anakin’s sympathy. While also playing on Anakin’s distrust of the Jedi Council, making them look like they were in fact there to overthrow the Republic. Or maybe in that moment Windu did in fact gain the upper hand but Palpatine being so calculating, immediately turned it to his advantage.
Playing possum is definitely in character for Sheev.
@@rojaws1183 totally agree
The book says Palpatine let windu beat him because he knew anakin was coming and told windu during the fight that the fear your feelig is not from me but anakin, hes on his way
I believe George Lucas also claimed Mace Windu beat Palpatine fair & square. However, I think the ROTS novel (not Canon anymore) basically said that Palps felt Anakin coming and dropped his guard to create the scenario which he met upstairs. I believe myself that Mace won the battle, that's how Lucas created it and that's the correct canon IMO.
It's like everyone on the writing team took a page from Voldemort and Palpatine's book. Good and evil are a matter of perspective. It's kind of a perfect irony considering what we've seen from these people.
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It is exhausting
Perry Chan and Quarter Black Garrett does awesome work
Im definitely looking forward to this show especially with the legends lore bits
Agree all the way
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I think mace beat the emperor but was distracted by Anakin's choice allowing the emperor to get the upper hand
I like how this looks, Jedi Trinity... I'm In!!
George Lucas himself said Mace won the fight fair and square.
I don't understand how Mace Windu could beat the Emperor if Yoda couldn't.
6:00 ive heard the emperor acted like that at the end to make anakin feel sympathetic for him, and have him take his side over the jedi. having anakin see im as weak and not in need of killing but mace wouldnt listen to that bs
I don’t get why we can’t just get a decent Star Wars product like it’s not that hard man
Like here is an idea cast
Keanu reeves and Alexander skarsgard as Jedi or sith let cristopher Nolan or Matt reeves to direct it bam u got the fans back
Keanu Reeves would make a great Jedi Master. His humility would transfer to that role perfectly. Alexander Skarsgard would make a great Sith Lord. After watching The Northman he could just pull of that blind rage and savagery.
@@straighttalkwithkyle7947 I agree and give him a padwan to look after to train and teach I say caleb McLaughlin or Finn wolfhard
Why didn't they follow the Mandalorian's example? Empire Strikes Back was the best one
Is it possible that he is supporting Iger in an attempt to get Star Wars back?
I'm just hoping.
I stopped supporting Disney Plus n Star Wars n Marvel till they get their act together again. Last thing I’ve seen from Disney anything was Mandalorian last year.
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This is the same George who said in the forc Palpatine would crush mace His only equal in the light was yoda mace only one the lightsaber battle not the fight to the death and could not win a fight to the death Palpatine played his game to stall for anikin he knew he was coming
Bring out Darth Jar Jar!
"There are FOUR LIGTHS!"
I’m done watching anything woman lead it has to be remarkable for me to like it
MACE WINDU DID BIT HIM, THATS A FACT!
We need jar jar as the huge sith threat , idc how , idc why , anything is better then the pig slop we are getting now
I believe the Emperor allowed Mace to beat him, i think he saw an opportunity and could feel Anakin close by to take advantage of this. It was too perfect and it felt like something he could orchestrate, also he had that Force lightening in his back pocket, i think he had several cards up his sleeve to takedown Mace.
"THE FORCE IS FEMALE!!!!" 😒
Yess Mr Palps risked everything he did up to that point by letting mace beat him 😅 cmon you gotta really hate Mace or love Palps to think that
Mace won but the emperor was relying on exactly what Anakin did to save him
Bob is currently losing the proxy battle so on April we shall see if there's light at the end of the tunnel
Yes, bring back Jar Jar over this Poodoo.
Mace beat Palpatine. They don't show how devastating the force lightning actually is. It damn near killed Darth Bane when he got hit with his own lightning. Mace deflecting Palpatine's lightning back at him would've killed him a lot sooner had the emperor been just another average sith lord. The only reason he survived it for as long as he did was because he was extremely powerful and he used the force to shield him from the worst of the lightning.
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I loved ashoka
More DEI FFS.
Don't let you admiration for the OT sway you, George Lucas was always a putz.
6:03 emperor let him beat so he could sway anakin
I actually thought it looks cool but hey thats just me
I liked Ahsoka, i don't know about this though.
Mace whopped that trick' Palpitine! Yes! Yes!
"there is no good or evil in star wars it depends which side your standing on" excuse me what?
What do you see? Womeeeeeen everywheeere
NO MORE WOKE TICKET SALES, STOP COLLECTING THE WOKE TOYS, NO WOKE LEGOS .. let the Woke bury the Woke.. sadly, the Dark Side of "Woke Wars" has hijacked the Star Wars legacy.😡
To the left. It’s not defining what’s right or wrong. It’s about acceptance and controlling it
There needs to be more memes about George Lucas not saving Star Wars. People seem so blind.
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in other news pokemon tcg got woke.............
GL said Mace best him
Critically it will do great but audience scores will b sooooo low
Jigsaw meets bob the builder.
If they wanna throw out a great story for their woke agenda, then I got a throw out my Disney+ subscription.
I wish this was a movie so i could not go see it. Lol
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It was already burning. Now Disney/Lucas Film is throwing on the gasoline.
I hate the deicolyte/theythemcolyte
Aren't you a typical SJW with pronouns? 😂 Reality check on your username! 🤣
They should make a show that’s woke and another show that’s regular without the woke and see who wins with the audience and views. it’s that simple
Dude, love your videos.
This show looks utterly shite.