The SECRET To How THE PROS Release The Golf Club
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2021
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Great video for me
I am trying to work on keeping my hands passive due to over hinging at the top and this is filling in some of the blanks for me
Hope it helps ya!!
Man I could watch you two all day! Seriously just brilliant lessons and articulation. You guys need to go old school and tape a DVD full swing series, I would by it!
Thank you very much my friend!
We'd love to work with you on your game at www.cogornogolf.com/freetrial 👊
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A very good video - a real eye opener - thank U so much
You got it :) Appreciate it!
Phenomenal guys! The path to push draws for days. There’s the hanger and S&T Eric! Magic:)
:) Thank you David!
Arguably the best golf video on UA-cam. Solid work ECog
Appreciate it---good stuff from Steve!
E - I am at Jim McLean’s in Miami for a golf camp and I just couldn’t time up the elusive left hand release (which is an important part of their teaching) without casting and cutting across the ball. This video was pure gold. I had the hanger aid for years and never used it but when I pulled it out and followed you guys - a legitimate EUREKA moment. You are really good and your guests always bring relevant concepts. As always thanks for your generosity.
Appreciate ya Rhod! Jim and team are great---enjoy!!
I was practising this same exact thing last night. When I conected it was amazing the distance I was getting. and the desired ball flight. The illusive Push Draw.
:)
Great vid. Can't wait to get to the range as I purchased the Watson swing aid as well (used your discount code). I saw your answer down below for driver - how about fairway woods - same as irons or "little less" like you stated in comments about driver? Thanks and appreciate the vids...
Love it, Duane!
Yeah thats a good question.
I would say the "simple" answer is "a bit less"
It does depend some on your speed....more speed can have more shaft lean and less loft.
Less speed needs less shaft lean and a bit more loft (to get it high enough to carry far enough)
Now....IF you throw way too much and especially if face is too open you would need to feel this with ALL clubs!
Pure gold. Great video.
Thanks!
I have the quickest question among all comments with "Quick Questions". Back in my Mini tour days, I was known as THE Frisky Flounder of South Mississippi. The nickname was due to the noise my ball made at impact sounding like a dead Flounder was on the ball. Me personally, I think it sounded more like a fan at a football game clapping with a thick pair of winter gloves on. ANYWAY, my "quick question" or I guess this is more of a statement. I've been hearing some water cooler talk amongst tour members and we've got a real problem with your throwing our secrets out for public consumption... On a more serious note, keep up the good work! You are fantastic with communicating advanced/ dynamic bio-mechanics swing theory into easily digestible concepts and feels . Also, You're a content monster and i'm here for it!
Lol thanks Rivers! I wasn't sure where you were gunna go with that in the beginning and that made me laugh :)
I appreciate the kind words and support my friend!
Hi Eric. This drill plus the hanger helped me a lot and I feel more compression with my irons. Unfortunately it also makes me feel like Im hitting down with my driver and Im not getting the ball up in the air. Do you still use the hanger with exactly the same feels with the driver or did you have to make adjustments with the feels?
Need to have a bit more throw with driver generally speaking....it depends some on speed.
Body should be in a much different position with head much more back
ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html
Hi, I have seen other videos on Hanger, the instruction was keep it press against your left fore arm, even during the through swing. Just like to get some clarification, cause I still don't know how effective it could be. Thanks
ua-cam.com/video/OyxgamZllOM/v-deo.html
Check this one out my friend!
I need left forearm supination and left wrist extension through impact to get my desired ball flight. My release is more like Freddie’s and it works for me.
That works!
Ok I here to tell us fans that this golf lesson is one amazing lesson - plus with the hanger training is one the the few training aids that is Worth it’s weight in gold - that’s why I can’t afford one - but you should get one - thanks - time tested video - keith
Appreciate ya Keith!
Would you use the same concepts to hit a driver (handle in front of the ball, lead wrist bowed to close the face)? I feel like this could almost make the dynamic loft negative.
Less with driver...
If the player has high speed they can do more
Less speed does less
Of course if your face is TOO open you will need to FEEL this a lot
Less with driver is the short answer
Love the tip but have a question and an observation that worked for me. Instead of adding an extra "move" to your swing by the "twist". Why not just slightly close the clubface at address by either a stronger grip or as a preshot routine by bringing the club back to about belt high then loosen your grip, slightly twist the face closed and tighten your grip. Instead of twisting your wrist.
You can! Anything goes....see what produces the best motions through the ball
(Shawn Clement advocates)
That's what I do, works best for me. Beautiful flight and distance and straight. I can't hit it properly if I don't close my club at address with a neutral- strong grip. I have to see where my ball will hit at impact, my thought process is wherever I place my ball at address is where my club will hit it so I don't want to have to twist my wrist or handle.🤷♀️
Will you make a vid on how and when to feel shaft bending before release?
What do you mean shaft bending?
Great. In this case where there is not "roling the hands", how the movement is with the driver!? The hands goes ahead of the club at impact?
Hey Humberto!
See if this answers for ya:
ua-cam.com/video/Nwz6Yrr9SrI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/hJ5scchaRPQ/v-deo.html
Differently an issue I have thanks Eric!
Our pleasure John!
Great video
Thank you!
Why do some coaches recommend the hanger set open and some set parallel? Just got one and would love to know how to choose one or the other. Also, left forearm is sore from it snapping back after contact with ball/ground. Normal?
Hey Patrick!
I can't speak for other coaches but I personally like to set it up where its JUST inside my trail forearm
I go through that here: ua-cam.com/video/OyxgamZllOM/v-deo.html
Depends some on your grip
Does this aid achieve the same as the coat hanger drill?
Very similar yep
Eric, you speak of bowing the wrist after you begin bringing the club down, but I have trouble doing that. However, I have no trouble bowing my left wrist as I get to the top of my backswing. I am guessing it is OK to do that but wanted to make sure. What would you say?
I would say that is OK so long as it STAYS flat in transition
Usually you would see good strikers have left wrist get to flat roughly around left arm parallel in the backswing then a bit more in transition
of course this depends on their grip/swing style
ua-cam.com/video/GhWNFaCqss8/v-deo.html
I personally think this is the best way I have ever found to practice it: ua-cam.com/video/OyxgamZllOM/v-deo.html
@@CogornoGolf Thanks Eric. Much appreciated.
Feel like this starting to close the club face/twisting the handle earlier will lead to more hooking. Does turning the trunk and hips prevent this?
In my experience yes. But if you do under rotate yes it will cause you to hook.
Yes!
Closing the face more earlier should encourage your brain to do a lot of the other good stuff we want to NOT hook it....
More shaft lean, good swing path, good body pivot
If you are hookin too much with this you can twist is LESS OR add in pieces that make the release more passive later
The hanger was my favorite training aide of all time. It doesn’t fit on Jumbomax grips.
What’s the magnetic doohickey with the yellow ball at the end?
Hey Patrick...if you search "magnetic club face attachment golf" you should find it!
Have you reviewed the pro sendr training aid?
Hey Mark! Not yet! Hbu?
@@CogornoGolf just picked one up. Taking it out today. Reviews have been great…
Let me know what you think? Also have video idea for you. I have a wide / thick chest and cannot get into some of these positions based on my build. I have to make a very conscious effort to get my arms on top of my chest rather than at my side for my golf swing. Have you ever made a video that address this type of body shape?
Question: Is this the same wrist action for driver ?
Less with driver...
If the player has high speed they can do more
Less speed does less
Of course if your face is TOO open you will need to FEEL this a lot
Less with driver is the short answer
Does this also apply to the driver. Seems like it would be taking loft off
A bit less with driver!
Unless you face is WAY open....then of course you will need to FEEL more
I understand this idea, but can you explain then why, especially with driver, we see people like Rory who get to shaft parallel to the ground post impact and the butt of the club is pointed at the down the line camera? In that case, the club head has overtaken the hands and there is a "roll". Perhaps its just camera angles or something, but when i see the pros do those types of things it makes me believe i need to roll more and get to the post impact shaft parallel shaking hands with the person in front of me, which feels like a roll.
Will do more on that with driver in particular moving forward!
@@CogornoGolf Hey Eric! Loving your content. Did you happen to have a follow up on this for driver?
Just wondering if there is a way to start this in the set up itself so we don't have to manipulate anything at all on the downswing?
Nope :(
@@CogornoGolf I guess I was asking for too much. lol
:)
So, quick question CAN you twist the face closed early and just leave it there through the entire swing?
That’s exactly what I do, but I was wondering if I’m losing out on flattening the shaft at the start of the downswing by twisting too early?
you can!
was lost in the golf swing unfolding lawn chair wilderness, hanger plus renewed swing video analysis has got me back on track in a week. thanks for all the great vids!
Love it Mike! Our pleasure!
Does it not take lot of strength to bow the wrist?
Maybe...sometimes easier to focus on trail wrist bending back more to get to the same end goal
12:52. I like the way your right hand rolls over immediately after impact
Why don’t you teach something you can do.
It’s okay because no one does that hold off move unless you’re hitting punch shots
Haha I see you're all over the release videos today :)
I teach plenty of arm rotation if needed to square the face!
It all depends on where the face is into impact
If its more open you need more arm rotation to close, if its more closed then you need less.
I'm just on the less closed side so I have some more roll.
Thats all good-----just expect more curve with it. Both work. I dont teach either only.....Ill teach both...whichever the player in front of me needs
Hope that helps
So taking the club back more closed will help minimize the need for twisting the face on the downswing?
Yes
@@CogornoGolf That makes sense to me!!
My problem is on the downswing I cant stop the bowing (Because of all that momentum) and My club-face winds up still being closed actually still giving Me the same problem any suggestions?
I would first look at the grip....
Too much bow is a bit like too much money......not sure I would change that issue.
I would look to potentially weaken left hand grip to match those wrist angles
ua-cam.com/video/S776LyvM6Pc/v-deo.html
Of course I would need to see your swing on video to say FOR SURE what the best course of action is. If you dont get it sorted go to www.cogornogolf.com and sign up so you can send your swings in!
This really opened my eyes when I practiced on the simulator. It amazed me how much I needed to feel I was twisting it. Probably wasn't that much because I had not been doing it my whole life. I was striping it solid. Now I need to take it to the course. Thanks
Yessir....good point.....almost always have to feel 1000x more exaggeration that real
I've been working with the hanger aid for several months and have seen positive changes to my wrist setting, ball flight etc. The only negative, somewhat unexpected, is that I occasionally hit a shank, which is totally new (and very unnerving) fault for me.
Hey there!
Glad to hear of the positive changes! Here's a video that may help with the shanks...
ua-cam.com/video/B8duKc_lcPQ/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Hope it serves you well!
I had a quick question. Do you want your elbow in front of the club head when you are driving as well? Or is this only for irons?
A bit less with driver!!
Eric's got the Popeye forearms gun show!
Superb
You da man!
Does this move put me in danger of "flipping" rather than "twisting" if I happen to be a little bit off?
I dont think so
So Damn GOOD !!!!
Appreciate it! Thank you!
When you demonstrate the wrong way it’s important to remember that a lot of that left wrist breakdown can be because of a pivot stall. Eric has a perfect pivot so that’s not a problem for him.
for sure a part of it! Lots of variables!
I "think" I get this. I've already got the hanger. Many only use it to get the left wrist flat at the top. But you gotta exaggerate the "bowing" on the way down which closes the face to the path. So the blade "tumbles over" slightly. That right? I'm going to have a lie down in a dark room...my head hurts 😄
Haha sorry about that...seems like from the comments we made it too difficult here. Will work to make it easier moving forward!
@@CogornoGolf that’s ok…I get it. But I’m very “technical” with the golf swing. Studying it is my hobby! But a beginner just won’t get this 😀
Agreed---thats my fault.
This is all easy to understand, just near impossible for me to do.
Appreciate the feedback, Johnny!
So I’ve been trying this but somehow I am still flipping the club. Any tips.
Absolutely....BUT I would need to see your swing to say for sure what's causing it.
Could be as simple as an open club face or a steep shaft or poor body motions....could be more complicated.
Join www.cogornogolf.com and send in your swings so we can fix!
Good effing video
Thanks, Chris!
There's an easier solution to obtain this desired result: preset the lead wrist at address. A 'weak' grip leads to a flatter wrist. Try it. You don't have to do any twisting at all, simply swing away. A challenge with trying to adopt a twisting method is that you need to also add more rotation than you are accustomed to in order to match it up, otherwise you'll hit big hooks.
Hey Matt!
Of course that is one option!
Unfortunately after 14 years of coaching and tens of thousands of golf swings later I have learned it simply isn't that easy.
Some people elite players play great with a weak grip/flexed wrist combo....
But I have seen A LOT with weaker grip struggle from there.
Both options are viable!
Best
How come most instructors teach a neutral grip and twisting the handle to square and deloft at impact rather than just a stronger left hand grip to take the variable of twisting the handle out?
You can do both!
Not everyone's arms hang, shoulder rotation, hand size etc is the same
Want to match grip to wrist angles like this: ua-cam.com/video/S776LyvM6Pc/v-deo.html
A strong left grip actually presets the the wrist into a cupped, not flat, position. Thus a resulting open club face at the top.
@@mrm700 Ohh that makes sense, I've flattened my lead wrist at the top for so long I totally forgot that's not the natural position with my slightly strong grip. So given a flat lead wrist at the top with a strong grip, if you maintain that wrist condition through impact, you should be good then right?
I wish instructors would spend much, much more time showing how to do something technique wise and much, much less time showing us what not to do.
Thanks for your feedback, Jack!
I would rather master the "Malaska Move". This approach seems to be a recipe for desaster and for spraying it around pretty good. Mike is hands down the best coach on UA-cam.
Thanks for the feedback!
Why would you ever reply with that comment. Just stupid. Great video Eric, it will help many golfers improve.
Doesn't the impact snap by Marty accomplish the very same result?
Yep thats a good one for this!
Tiger doesn’t look like that on the follow through
Hey there!
I hear ya! This is a slightly exaggerated drill to help with some of the key follow through pieces👍
When I watch Rambo and how he gets his wrist in that position or bows it at such speed I think goddam my wrist would snap In half lol. It’s not easy to do and you need some real strength to do that as well as the ROM in ur wrist. I can’t budge the club to bow it unless my left is neutral or even in a more weak starting position. I actually use coaches tip n use my right hand at the top to help my girly man left wrist get there. But it’s also not a thing you can just change overnight and need to work it In slowly because it’ll cause my dominant right hand to do too much and then I’m chicken wing city. Just thinking out loud here boys carry on😁
:)
@@dr6124 strong grip is already in that position I guess and Is so uncomfortable for me too and Idk how people play from there. Idk if you were asking but I thought you were.
Didnt understand a word off it. Should i close the face or not. What the hell does pull cut mean ? God sake
Lol sorry about that....agreed....I should have done better here making it more clear.
You want to learn to do this: ua-cam.com/video/OyxgamZllOM/v-deo.html
and then be like Morikawa & Hovland and play a sweet, 3-yard high fade from these positions
Astute observation here.
They do it the best way, which is not this way.
:)
They both twist the face....just earlier!
I am a big fan of Eric's . But this video lacked a lot of clarity. Way to confusing. Pushing the Hanger sales a bit too much IMO.
Sorry about that----I agree.....we missed the mark here a bit. My fault
Give me a free lesson Eric
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Don't you get the same thing if you just focus on swinging the handle instead of the clubhead
Sometimes its as easy as that...other times it's not.
What do you mean by swing the handle?
The grip
I’ve always fought my arms stuck to my chest. Twisting the grip seems to get my arms to fire off my chest then all I have to do is turn. Crazy easy feel
Yes! More videos on the arm off the chest coming in a few weeks!
Appreciate tips and help, but a lot of time spent telling me what bad golfers do instead of what to do.
Thanks for the feedback!
Very messy lesson here.
Referencing face condition to shaft at times, then to path at times and mixing wrist flexion/extension with "twisting", and then only covering one shot shape , a push draw....etc.
The assumption that all are open at the top and must begin closing is just wrong....
I've been studying the golf swing for 45 years and taught for 35 years and I had a hard time following it . And I can imagine developing golfers either are confused or think they understand when they actually don't.
There are multiple concepts and options here that need to be teased out and explored. Love you Eric, but....
Appreciate that feedback---sorry about that! Will work to do better moving forward
@@CogornoGolf You got this. 💯🏌️♂️
15 minutes 24 for that too much longer
Appreciate the feedback---sorry about that!
Your impact positions were NOT real. The right shoulder should be almost over the ball at impact.
Thanks for watching, Jeff! Appreciate your feedback!
Here is the main problem with golf lessons online.The title here " How to release the golf club", ok great but like 99% of vids on here spend 99% of the time showing you what not to do ,rather than showing the actual lesson. Too much bad data,can get confusing ,lets get to the crux of why I clicked on a Vid. Just my opinion.
Thanks for your feedback!
Way too much....
Sorry about that Tom...will try and do better next time
Got there in the end, but over 10 minutes saying the same thing in different ways? 🫤
:) Thanks for your feedback and watching, Micky!