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According to some studies, it'd take a magnetic dipole at the L1 point of Mars with a strength of 1-2 Teslas to create such an artifical magnetosphere. Now 1-2 Teslas is not super strong in a sense, it's at the bottom end of what most MRI machines operate at, but you'd have to make such a device LARGE ENOUGH to continual pump out such a field FOREVER as Mars's core is effectively dead to make this a possibility. So your talking an object MANY miles in diameter working 24/7 nonstop. It'd have to be nuclear powered with some possible solar input. Might be an idea for all our leftover nuclear fuel rods if they can be reprocessed enough. It could be done with smaller systems at multiple L points as suggested, but would be trickier to balance most likely.
Its a harder process , it is much better in some respects much worse in others , We need to master bioengineering enough to make bacteria that could change Venuses atmosphere and then we would need to set up Space Mirrors around the planet in such a way that it appears like it has a 24 hour cycle and we need a way to generate some kind of radiation protection (probably a satellite at L1). But this is much harder
Well, on Earth, all the big economic interests want more oil and a non-circular economy to ship more products and drive the bad parts of consumer culture, whereas in space, there's mostly only support for development.
@@lenny5774 well, gonna need a good orbital access scheme that lowers costs and allows us to also build a hydrogen economy to revolutionize intercontinental passenger transport. Combined-cycle jets + partial space elevators look like a winner if we want to drive down costs and fund the rest of this stuff.
@@lenny5774 neither. I figure we architect market interactions that make companies 'voluntarily' pay for space industrialization bonds, if it's favorable to switch to being a foundation, rather than a corporation, government can make space industrialization bonds favorable.
If you Nuke the Dry ice at the poles it would heat the planet. CO2 is a greenhouse gas if you turn that into gas the C02 would increase , Scienists think this could be enough to get the process started.
I think they would use vertical farming to grow food because it makes better use of space. The setup in the video takes up a lot of space, which is very valuable in that situation.
It's too optimistic and you need to have the magnetic field in place first of all otherwise no gas will remain in the atmosphere. Secondly the quality of martial soil, quantities of carbon and water actually available on Mars may not be adequate
There are purposed ways to solve this like Satalite that casts a Radiation shadown using a small magnetic Feild at the L1 point . Soil quality can be improved . I haven't done much research on the quantity of carbon, but I would be more concerned with Phospherous and nitrogen
Very important brother, that this technology exists widely on earth, the use of roads, electric trains, subways, electric vehicles, basements everywhere.
How many times can you say ethical, responsible, sustainable, habitable, collaborative, optimizing, utilizing and facilitating? It sounds like a board meeting at InTec. Did you get those cover sheets on the TPS reports, Martian citizen?
Fascinating take on Mars! Ever considered the theory that every planet in our solar system might actually be Earth at different points in time? Just dropped a video exploring this wild idea curious to hear your thoughts!
Watching this makes me have a question. If we are able to do this to mars, then why can’t we do this to earth as well? If we as humans have the power to give a planet life then we can stop earth from dying or have major harm…right? I just feel like if we use mars as a testing ground we theoretically have a way to bring life back to earth in case of human destruction or “acts of god”
The thing I find most fascinating about the idea of terraforming Mars or Titan is folks look at them and think "yeah we could turn them into an Eden in 500+ years', but then ask them about Earth in 500 years, a planet that's already 99.9% there and the view is 'nah Earth is humped'. It's also ridiculously optimistic about the first 20 years, and no we will not be detonating nuclear warheads on Mars in 20 years. Still someday we might get there.
Of course, in reality, rotating space settlements at stable Lagrange points are going to be very common in an interplanetary future, and that's how you get an artificial magnetosphere built, not on Mars, but from asteroidal materials, and also, orbitals will have an easier time maintaining those assets.
Finally, at long last, the terraforming process of Mars is near completion. However, the beings that initiated it have not been seen for 250 million years.
Who are we (the people who are closest to the year 2030) to expect that people beyond the year 2100 will actually do what is described in this vid? Are we, here in the 21st century, still doing the things, living life, the way people did in the 18th and 19th centuries?
Приветствую! Есть идея ☝️ Ибо не понимаю одного, зачем отправлять людей в неизвестность?! Почему нельзя построить большой космический корабль что-то типа базы - на дальней орбите Земли?! Для начала перенести туда некоторое, необходимое производство, робототехники для этих целей вроде бы как сегодня уже предостаточно 🤔 Корабль оборудовать как следует, обеспечить защиту и безопасность экипажам, заполнить трюмы всем необходимым и отправить в неспешный полёт к Марсу? А тогда уже начать готовить новые команды "колонистов" и отпралять их, но только после прибытия базы к Марсу и развёртывания первоначального лагеря колонистов на поверхности рототизированной техникой? В создании такого космического проекта разве не захотели бы принять участие многие из государств?!
Before we start thinking permanent colonization of Mars let's not forget Phobos is in a declining orbit it is speculated to break apart in the atmosphere, shading and cooling the planet even more making solar energy useless. And chunks of rocks will continuously fall until the Phobos ring is absorbed. Or worse case just goes straight on down solid, shattering the crust of Mars in a global mega Mars quake. Habitats will succumb to the tremors.
The secret sauce to Martian colonization would just so happen to be self-replicating machine infrastructures and atomically-precise manufacturing, it's the fact that economic dependence will mostly be obviated with burgeoning this-century technology that makes things like settling and terraforming Mars and Venus viable.
Electromagnetic shield Technologies. By creating an artificial magnetic field around Mars you do not only protect humans agains the cosmic radiation but you safeguard the developing athmosphere from being striped away.
I know it l sounds stupid but what i am saying is simply in theory. What if we terraformed the moon. It orbits within the habitable zone it has an atmosphere and i know mars also orbits in the habitable zone but the moon is easier to reach. If we could thicken its atmosphere could it sustain life and water?
It would make a lot more sense to try and fix the problems we have on Earth, right now, with the vast resources that already exist on our blessed planet, than to try and reform another - hoping that the human beast will not raise its ugly head from day-one of that operation. How about trying to "terra form" Earth first? What about solving our conflicts here first - before hoping that we will actually manage to cooperate on such a massive, alien project? Or do you think that the human greed factor will suddenly cease to exist on Mars?
speculation; since the core isn't molten and the geomagnetic dynamo is inoperable geoengineering by excavation is imagined and the planet halved and possibly altered too in its rotation at the optimal point that also permits prospecting for solid, liquid or gas constituents that comprises a warm encapsulated blanket adhering to the surface along with all other resources needed for whatever
I think we should look into redirecting large ice comets from the kuiper belt to bombard the surface of Mars. It will raise surface temps and add water.
Sure, it will take only couple thousend years. Assuming first we figure out how to equip mars with magnetosphere. Still it doesnt solve problems with very low gravity, atmospheric pressure, lack of nutrients for plants...
I'm sorry to have to disappoint you all. But there are still no crucial answers to whether this is possible or not. *Why?* Yes, Mars has ice. But is it enough to produce oxygen and even create a weather system like on Earth? Because that’s necessary if we want to terraform Mars - after all, plants need water from rain. This alone raises numerous follow-up questions! If we exploit and waste Mars' resources in the same way we do here on Earth, the long-term Mars project will fail catastrophically before it even gets off the ground. So, we need to know in advance if there’s enough water on Mars, not just to form an ocean, but also to extract oxygen from it. This alone would demand the limited water resources on Mars for generations. And again, there are many unresolved cascading dependencies here. I'm not saying that terraforming Mars in the way we humans envision is impossible. However, to actually make it functional in a natural cycle like on Earth, a sufficient amount of water is necessary. Although a lot of water is available on Mars, it might not be enough for such a natural cycle. Because a huge amount of water has already evaporated from Mars, and it continues to evaporate. Of course , there is way more than this to be aware of. But the water is crucial though. *That's 'Why'!*
I don’t mind supporting things like this but first thing we need to do first is how we can expand our life span to as long as we choose to then the future is cool exploring things in another planet but until we can’t yet I rather spend that money on longevity for humans first
Excelente video, todo este documental sobre este proyecto de terraformacion del planeta Marte se ve muy prometedor y expresa todo un buen procedimiento cientifico de terraformacion, y de buenos peoyectos de bioingenieria con los cuales si se obtendrian muy buenos resultados y buenos frutos, pero todavia existiria un grave problema y es con respecto a la debir gravedad de marte y por ende la escasa densidad como para sostener una atmosfera consistente, es decir lo suficiente densa siendo sostenida por un campo magnetico similar al de la tierra, lo cual tambien si permitiria el que el agua pueda sostenerse en forma liquida en la superficie del planeta, porque el problema de que el agua tiende a sublimisarse en Marte no es solo por el efecto de la radiacion, sino por la falta de la densidad atmosferica del planeta debido esto en gran parte a que Marte ejerce una insuficiente fuerza de atraccion para sostener, una atmosfera significativa, y a su vez por efecto de esto que agua pueda permaneser en estado liquido, y que quizas esto se pueda lograr por un tienpo, pero para mantener esto constante se debera quizas mantener toda un procedimiento continuo y de gas atmosferico para suplir todo el gad que se escapa hacia el vacio del espacio, debido a la escasa gravedad de Marte, esto seria como uno suministrar aire constante a behiga la cual tiene un piche y por cual gradualmente se va escapando todo el aire, y tambien el agua en este caso.
The creator uses the mention of Martian Lagrangian points far too loosely. There are only five. Mars Sun L1 is approx. 1 million km in front of Mars in the direction of the Sun. Mars Sun L2 is approx. 1 million km behind Mars is the direction away from the Sun. Mars Sun L3 is on the opposite side of the Sun. Mars Sun L4 is the fore (Leading) trojan point, 60 degrees ahead of Mars in its orbit. Mars Sun L5 is the aft (Trailing) trojan point, 60 degrees behind Mars in its orbit. The only one that would be useful for setting up "mirror concentration" or "electromagnetic dipoles) would be Mars Sun Lagrangian point one. Interestingly, a lot of the imagery is from the now-defunct Mars One concept.
@@Vorb Yes, but as it's a million kilometers directly behind Mars, perhaps for scientific equipment that needs to be kept out of sunlight. Certain halo orbits in the region could be useful as well.
Good point. Creating an artificial magnetic field would help protect the atmosphere we create on Mars. It’s definitely something that should be considered first. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
TLDR: Why dont we focus on terraforming or w.e. the Earth and its hostile regions first, and then the moon before we target Mars & beyond.... I love this channels videos and I watch most of the videos they upload (though alot of them are just regurgetations of the same initial themes/questions/content). The videos have some great narration and relaxing background music & the actual cgi content is top notch however its made... But to the actual matter at hand, this channel needs to make its mind up on subjects such as this one, will we ever live on other celestial bodies in our solar system and beyond or not, i'm quite certain a video released last week just said we will never live on anywhere else but Earth or something to that effect. Furthermore, some of the "science" perpetuatued in these videos is psuedo science with no real consideration of what they are actually sharing, i mean terraforming mars.. really? We're gonna begin terracforming mars starting in 2050?? thats Literrally round the corner interms of the tech needed to achieve such a feat. We can't even terraform any of our deserts warm or cold (Sahara and Antartica) so how the hell will we terraform a whole planet with a couple nukes in just 30years? sigh.. its nice to dream after all but yh Elon musk ain't taking no1 to mars in 2025 or 2100 or even 2500.. there are many big massive questions we need to address before we set out and until we start seeing tangible answers and not these make believe videos, none of theses speculative ideas will come true.
Huh? Like the terra forming the arctic would just make the Sahara bigger. Or make another part of the plant that isn't a desert a desert. Mainly cause once you melt all the permafrost your releasing all the CO2 locked up in that permafrost.
@@tommachin8705 Think you misunderstood my point here pal... The essence of what i'm saying is why don't "we" focus our collective efforts on managing our eco system and mastering that before we start to pursue terraforming a whole planet. Whatever shape or form that takes will be for the generation that figures it out. If we for instance engineer the weather in the Sahara desert there will be a knock on effect of the rest of the eco system so i'm sure all the additional calculations will need to be made to maintain the balance of things.
@@Michael1ndonli I'm assuming I did mis-read what you said. I originally read that you said we should terraform The Sahara or Antarctica first. Which of course would make no logical sense. Maybe somehow supplying water to the Sahara but messing with the arctic would just be bad business.
@@Michael1ndonli Also damn my original comment is a mess.... Like a complete dumpster fire. I had originally commented at work. So Plant=Planet.... And other issues...
The question is why?! Who and why would want to commit themselves to such horrible life inside a lab prison? Existing inside such a science lab is very different to living!
It would be nice, a new world and the old world. But, well, it could maybe be possible, the technological development is of course advancing. But how fast? Is there time to try to colonize Mars? Is it better to try to build a big "bubble" for those who might be there, those who do research etc? We need better rockets firstly, the journey can't take forever... Anyway a good idea, you must dream big. And I hope for development in that direction, if only the funding can be arranged. Unfortunately, I will not be around to experience this
My question is if the Martian planet does not have enough water, are they going to drop asteroids on the planet and wait for the impacts to stabilize after a hundred years or more? Does Mars offer enough usefulness that out weigh the use of space stations? I question how can converting mars into an active planet happen without re-energizing the core of the planet.
@@dave438-jw3there are multiple ways to create an artificial magnetic field, for example building a superconductor on mars equator or creating a magnetic field generator in the L1 Lagrange point of mars
I still don’t understand why all proposed Mars bases are on top of the Martian soil. With how loose the Martian dirt is and how many dangers are on top, why not put the base just underground or in hills? High winds, Martian sand, space debri, meteors, radiation, etc…it must be easier to keep everything intact slightly underground
I’ve always felt we initially came from mars. I feel like we terraformed earth then got knocked back to Stone Age somehow. What if our original civilization is still on mars or what if mars is a big graveyard
You need to push back phase 2 a few decades at least. You don’t want to start terraforming until you’re verified there’s no current life on Mars. 2040 is way too early to make that determination.
The goal is to make Mars habitable with minimal harm to the environment. We want to create a balance where we improve Mars while preserving its natural state as much as possible.
It might be possible in the far future depending on future energy generation technology. If technological progress doesn't slow down it could easily happen in the next 10,000 years. Too bad it's unlikely even 1 viewer of this video will live past 100 so we'll never see it ourselves. 😔
All of these pipe dreams never address the issue of how this monumental effort will be paid for. No were near enough wealth can be created by a single planetary civilization to support it.
Once Martian colonists are established, they will have to be self sufficient and rely on in situ resource utilisation to survive. In the end, unless a martian currency is minted early on, much construction will probably go ahead circumventing finance out of necessity and a lack of said currency to begin with. Hope this explain the situation better!
we could do this if our human society worried less about money and the monetization of things could move beyond what we now and too a type 1 civilization alot of these dreams can come true but we as a race can't do that cuz we are selfish species
What about Iron nana rods for skipping most of the crap that you said for heating it up to making it warm enough for humans in just under a year and an artificial megntic field satellites
Shave head with electric razor or use scissors and a mirror, don't need bartenders just drink it yourself or with a friend, digital books are the future. There, solved your problems for you... at least to the extent that would be necessary for a fledgling colony. We could worry about the rest once the colony stabilizes.
then if we get bored of mars then well terraform Titan and thats not enough then we look for another star system, then create a star then make multiple planets and then make more and more solar systems then go further and rule andromeda, humanity conquers the universe
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Is Mars Wasted Time. The problem is with water. Can you get some into the garden and use it, or is it out of the question. I heard that Mars is too lacking in gravity for water to exist in liquid form on the surface. That if true it eleminates watering a garden, as the water will not stay liquid, therefore will not penetrate and moisen the soil. This alone would preclude Mars from habitation as no crops could be grown there. When we water on earth we depend on the water being draqged down into the roots by our increased gravity. Are there any answers to this, or was this report wrong. EG. Would a pressure filled green house change this and cause the water to stay liquid and penetrate the soil in these rooms at least. Can this pressure replace gravity and allow colonization of Mars. Remember this pressure would only be inside a few buildings, and would not allow for crops or even natural fauna to be grown outside on any part of the unperessurized surface. There will be no fields of corn, vegetables, or wheat. In the long run this would greatly restrict the population of this planet, even kill it for long term habitation of cities full of people. I know you can say increase the atmospheric pressure, but scientists say this will take over 100 years to do, according to everything I have read. Is there a solution to this or are we following a pipe dream, that is destined to fade out for at least 100 years, on this one point alone.
So you show how things are setting up the environment. But when you get to 2300 you show them walking in suits. Shouldn't the atmosphere and the oxygen level be better by then.
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It's not even possible to build a space station on the moon. Especially on Mars... 😴
Without a magnetosphere, how could it maintain a terraformed atmosphere?
Also Martian gravity is only 38% that of earth - 3.7 m/sec^2 vs 9.8 m/sec^2.
It couldn't.... Unless those parts terraformed were in some kind of bubble or giant dome
Scientists have speculated they could ionize a protective magnetosphere using machinery on phobos and demos
According to some studies, it'd take a magnetic dipole at the L1 point of Mars with a strength of 1-2 Teslas to create such an artifical magnetosphere. Now 1-2 Teslas is not super strong in a sense, it's at the bottom end of what most MRI machines operate at, but you'd have to make such a device LARGE ENOUGH to continual pump out such a field FOREVER as Mars's core is effectively dead to make this a possibility. So your talking an object MANY miles in diameter working 24/7 nonstop. It'd have to be nuclear powered with some possible solar input. Might be an idea for all our leftover nuclear fuel rods if they can be reprocessed enough. It could be done with smaller systems at multiple L points as suggested, but would be trickier to balance most likely.
Debby Downer agrees with the question and wants an answer
I wish we could turn Venus into Earth, almost the size of Earth and with the same gravity
@@ORHAN-g5w Venus, mi planeta favorito, ojalá se terraforme, tiene un gran potencial.
yes we are unable to change martian gravity to be equal as earth gravity.
One day on Venus is 243 Earth days long. That's gonna be a problem.
@@pi.actual we will Terraform both of them at the same time
Its a harder process , it is much better in some respects much worse in others ,
We need to master bioengineering enough to make bacteria that could change Venuses atmosphere and then we would need to set up Space Mirrors around the planet in such a way that it appears like it has a 24 hour cycle and we need a way to generate some kind of radiation protection (probably a satellite at L1).
But this is much harder
It seems like it would be easier to fix earth’s environment than to terraform Mars!
Well, on Earth, all the big economic interests want more oil and a non-circular economy to ship more products and drive the bad parts of consumer culture, whereas in space, there's mostly only support for development.
@@EnneaIsInterested and who pays for that development?
@@lenny5774 well, gonna need a good orbital access scheme that lowers costs and allows us to also build a hydrogen economy to revolutionize intercontinental passenger transport. Combined-cycle jets + partial space elevators look like a winner if we want to drive down costs and fund the rest of this stuff.
@@EnneaIsInterested yes, but who pays for it, us through taxes or mega corporations that would only get larger?
@@lenny5774 neither. I figure we architect market interactions that make companies 'voluntarily' pay for space industrialization bonds, if it's favorable to switch to being a foundation, rather than a corporation, government can make space industrialization bonds favorable.
Whoever wrote this used every 5 dollar word they could think of to make it sound more scientific than it is.
@@almar8874 nope
Nuking mars will not thicken atmosphere
If you Nuke the Dry ice at the poles it would heat the planet.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas if you turn that into gas the C02 would increase , Scienists think this could be enough to get the process started.
I just love science fiction like this!
Why fiction?
I think they would use vertical farming to grow food because it makes better use of space. The setup in the video takes up a lot of space, which is very valuable in that situation.
14:58 The way you handled this section is a masterclass in skill and patience. Respect! 🎓
What's very important for Mars colonization, is some advanced 3D printers. Without that life on Mars would be extremely hard.
It's too optimistic and you need to have the magnetic field in place first of all otherwise no gas will remain in the atmosphere.
Secondly the quality of martial soil, quantities of carbon and water actually available on Mars may not be adequate
I thought the same about the magnetic field. Why do all that before doing the mag field.
Because atmospheres take millions of years to erode. With a compounding industrial terraforming effort, at worst, it would be hundreds of years.
There are purposed ways to solve this like Satalite that casts a Radiation shadown using a small magnetic Feild at the L1 point .
Soil quality can be improved . I haven't done much research on the quantity of carbon, but I would be more concerned with Phospherous and nitrogen
Someone has got to make a video game for this
@@billybeck8169 It exists, its called "Planet Crafter" on steam
Very important brother, that this technology exists widely on earth, the use of roads, electric trains, subways, electric vehicles, basements everywhere.
How many times can you say ethical, responsible, sustainable, habitable, collaborative, optimizing, utilizing and facilitating? It sounds like a board meeting at InTec. Did you get those cover sheets on the TPS reports, Martian citizen?
WEF and UN buzzwords.
And....whats wrong?
13:11 those domes look silly lol. The trees will outgrow them very quickly and there is no entrance to them.
If the female astronaut at 17:12 can make a space suit look that fine.... 😳
I was thinking the same watching her walk
I think this whole silly video is just an excuse to show that 10 sec.
lol 😮
Fascinating take on Mars! Ever considered the theory that every planet in our solar system might actually be Earth at different points in time? Just dropped a video exploring this wild idea curious to hear your thoughts!
Watching this makes me have a question. If we are able to do this to mars, then why can’t we do this to earth as well? If we as humans have the power to give a planet life then we can stop earth from dying or have major harm…right? I just feel like if we use mars as a testing ground we theoretically have a way to bring life back to earth in case of human destruction or “acts of god”
The thing I find most fascinating about the idea of terraforming Mars or Titan is folks look at them and think "yeah we could turn them into an Eden in 500+ years', but then ask them about Earth in 500 years, a planet that's already 99.9% there and the view is 'nah Earth is humped'.
It's also ridiculously optimistic about the first 20 years, and no we will not be detonating nuclear warheads on Mars in 20 years. Still someday we might get there.
Science Fiction at it's greatest . 😊
Of course, in reality, rotating space settlements at stable Lagrange points are going to be very common in an interplanetary future, and that's how you get an artificial magnetosphere built, not on Mars, but from asteroidal materials, and also, orbitals will have an easier time maintaining those assets.
Haha, It`s fun to live through these eras and see how all these are just a wild fantasy and speak.
Mars is a pipe dream.
Maybe, but every big achievement starts as a dream. Thanks for watching!
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suuure... turning Mars into a habitant planet in 500 years, when they can't even make deserts back into forests LOL
Finally, at long last, the terraforming process of Mars is near completion. However, the beings that initiated it have not been seen for 250 million years.
Who are we (the people who are closest to the year 2030) to expect that people beyond the year 2100 will actually do what is described in this vid? Are we, here in the 21st century, still doing the things, living life, the way people did in the 18th and 19th centuries?
Приветствую! Есть идея ☝️
Ибо не понимаю одного, зачем отправлять людей в неизвестность?! Почему нельзя построить большой космический корабль что-то типа базы - на дальней орбите Земли?!
Для начала перенести туда некоторое, необходимое производство, робототехники для этих целей вроде бы как сегодня уже предостаточно 🤔
Корабль оборудовать как следует, обеспечить защиту и безопасность экипажам, заполнить трюмы всем необходимым и отправить в неспешный полёт к Марсу?
А тогда уже начать готовить новые команды "колонистов" и отпралять их, но только после прибытия базы к Марсу и развёртывания первоначального лагеря колонистов на поверхности рототизированной техникой?
В создании такого космического проекта разве не захотели бы принять участие многие из государств?!
Kako ide situacija možda će i zemlja morati da se teraformira ??
How about putting right the “Terraforming” of our own backyard.
Before we start thinking permanent colonization of Mars let's not forget Phobos is in a declining orbit it is speculated to break apart in the atmosphere, shading and cooling the planet even more making solar energy useless. And chunks of rocks will continuously fall until the Phobos ring is absorbed.
Or worse case just goes straight on down solid, shattering the crust of Mars in a global mega Mars quake. Habitats will succumb to the tremors.
The secret sauce to Martian colonization would just so happen to be self-replicating machine infrastructures and atomically-precise manufacturing, it's the fact that economic dependence will mostly be obviated with burgeoning this-century technology that makes things like settling and terraforming Mars and Venus viable.
Electromagnetic shield Technologies. By creating an artificial magnetic field around Mars you do not only protect humans agains the cosmic radiation but you safeguard the developing athmosphere from being striped away.
HERE! 0N! EARTH 🌎!
Interesting To Note, merci. * COOL!!!
Thanks for watching!
What would be very poetic is that human lived and destroyed mars long time ago and survived on earth long enough to return to mars to rebuild it.
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
I know it l sounds stupid but what i am saying is simply in theory.
What if we terraformed the moon. It orbits within the habitable zone it has an atmosphere and i know mars also orbits in the habitable zone but the moon is easier to reach. If we could thicken its atmosphere could it sustain life and water?
When did the moon get an atmosphere?
Bit late answer i know, but moon has an atmoshere. Couple centemeters deep on the surface. Very thin too.
@DarthAnvan Threre is no atmosphere. It's considered a vacuum.
It would make a lot more sense to try and fix the problems we have on Earth, right now, with the vast resources that already exist on our blessed planet, than to try and reform another - hoping that the human beast will not raise its ugly head from day-one of that operation. How about trying to "terra form" Earth first? What about solving our conflicts here first - before hoping that we will actually manage to cooperate on such a massive, alien project? Or do you think that the human greed factor will suddenly cease to exist on Mars?
Still can't increase the gravity to Earth level, or give Mars its protective magnetic field back.
Me as martian- inivudual, i very much oppose all nuke- use here.💥🔥
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speculation; since the core isn't molten and the geomagnetic dynamo is inoperable geoengineering by excavation is imagined and the planet halved and possibly altered too in its rotation at the optimal point that also permits prospecting for solid, liquid or gas constituents that comprises a warm encapsulated blanket adhering to the surface along with all other resources needed for whatever
You forgot to mention that everyone on mars hangs NFTs on their walls. I think this video is what the Musketeers actually think is going to happen.
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I think we should look into redirecting large ice comets from the kuiper belt to bombard the surface of Mars. It will raise surface temps and add water.
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Sure, it will take only couple thousend years. Assuming first we figure out how to equip mars with magnetosphere. Still it doesnt solve problems with very low gravity, atmospheric pressure, lack of nutrients for plants...
I'm sorry to have to disappoint you all. But there are still no crucial answers to whether this is possible or not. *Why?*
Yes, Mars has ice. But is it enough to produce oxygen and even create a weather system like on Earth? Because that’s necessary if we want to terraform Mars - after all, plants need water from rain. This alone raises numerous follow-up questions!
If we exploit and waste Mars' resources in the same way we do here on Earth, the long-term Mars project will fail catastrophically before it even gets off the ground.
So, we need to know in advance if there’s enough water on Mars, not just to form an ocean, but also to extract oxygen from it. This alone would demand the limited water resources on Mars for generations. And again, there are many unresolved cascading dependencies here.
I'm not saying that terraforming Mars in the way we humans envision is impossible. However, to actually make it functional in a natural cycle like on Earth, a sufficient amount of water is necessary. Although a lot of water is available on Mars, it might not be enough for such a natural cycle. Because a huge amount of water has already evaporated from Mars, and it continues to evaporate.
Of course , there is way more than this to be aware of. But the water is crucial though.
*That's 'Why'!*
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I don’t mind supporting things like this but first thing we need to do first is how we can expand our life span to as long as we choose to then the future is cool exploring things in another planet but until we can’t yet I rather spend that money on longevity for humans first
A hyperloop on Mars would be a huge expense for a sparsely populated experimental planet and too restrictive for exploration purposes 😮
how about we terraform earth back to liveable first?
All very optimistic. Meanwhile on Earth, wars, environment destruction, etc, etc...
Excelente video, todo este documental sobre este proyecto de terraformacion del planeta Marte se ve muy prometedor y expresa todo un buen procedimiento cientifico de terraformacion, y de buenos peoyectos de bioingenieria con los cuales si se obtendrian muy buenos resultados y buenos frutos, pero todavia existiria un grave problema y es con respecto a la debir gravedad de marte y por ende la escasa densidad como para sostener una atmosfera consistente, es decir lo suficiente densa siendo sostenida por un campo magnetico similar al de la tierra, lo cual tambien si permitiria el que el agua pueda sostenerse en forma liquida en la superficie del planeta, porque el problema de que el agua tiende a sublimisarse en Marte no es solo por el efecto de la radiacion, sino por la falta de la densidad atmosferica del planeta debido esto en gran parte a que Marte ejerce una insuficiente fuerza de atraccion para sostener, una atmosfera significativa, y a su vez por efecto de esto que agua pueda permaneser en estado liquido, y que quizas esto se pueda lograr por un tienpo, pero para mantener esto constante se debera quizas mantener toda un procedimiento continuo y de gas atmosferico para suplir todo el gad que se escapa hacia el vacio del espacio, debido a la escasa gravedad de Marte, esto seria como uno suministrar aire constante a behiga la cual tiene un piche y por cual gradualmente se va escapando todo el aire, y tambien el agua en este caso.
You're really optimistic. In my point of view, in 2400 there'll still be people dying of hunger in poor countries.
Even just stably surviving, as they project by 2040, will optimistically take until the turn of the century.
The creator uses the mention of Martian Lagrangian points far too loosely.
There are only five.
Mars Sun L1 is approx. 1 million km in front of Mars in the direction of the Sun.
Mars Sun L2 is approx. 1 million km behind Mars is the direction away from the Sun.
Mars Sun L3 is on the opposite side of the Sun.
Mars Sun L4 is the fore (Leading) trojan point, 60 degrees ahead of Mars in its orbit.
Mars Sun L5 is the aft (Trailing) trojan point, 60 degrees behind Mars in its orbit.
The only one that would be useful for setting up "mirror concentration" or "electromagnetic dipoles) would be Mars Sun Lagrangian point one.
Interestingly, a lot of the imagery is from the now-defunct Mars One concept.
L2 could be useful as well
@@Vorb Yes, but as it's a million kilometers directly behind Mars, perhaps for scientific equipment that needs to be kept out of sunlight.
Certain halo orbits in the region could be useful as well.
The creation of the artificial magnetic field should come before the generation of the atmosphere.
Good point. Creating an artificial magnetic field would help protect the atmosphere we create on Mars. It’s definitely something that should be considered first. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
How would you deal with long-term effects of low gravity on human health, human fetus etc.?
Shoutout to the camera man
TLDR: Why dont we focus on terraforming or w.e. the Earth and its hostile regions first, and then the moon before we target Mars & beyond....
I love this channels videos and I watch most of the videos they upload (though alot of them are just regurgetations of the same initial themes/questions/content). The videos have some great narration and relaxing background music & the actual cgi content is top notch however its made... But to the actual matter at hand, this channel needs to make its mind up on subjects such as this one, will we ever live on other celestial bodies in our solar system and beyond or not, i'm quite certain a video released last week just said we will never live on anywhere else but Earth or something to that effect.
Furthermore, some of the "science" perpetuatued in these videos is psuedo science with no real consideration of what they are actually sharing, i mean terraforming mars.. really? We're gonna begin terracforming mars starting in 2050?? thats Literrally round the corner interms of the tech needed to achieve such a feat. We can't even terraform any of our deserts warm or cold (Sahara and Antartica) so how the hell will we terraform a whole planet with a couple nukes in just 30years? sigh.. its nice to dream after all but yh Elon musk ain't taking no1 to mars in 2025 or 2100 or even 2500.. there are many big massive questions we need to address before we set out and until we start seeing tangible answers and not these make believe videos, none of theses speculative ideas will come true.
Huh? Like the terra forming the arctic would just make the Sahara bigger. Or make another part of the plant that isn't a desert a desert. Mainly cause once you melt all the permafrost your releasing all the CO2 locked up in that permafrost.
@@tommachin8705 Think you misunderstood my point here pal... The essence of what i'm saying is why don't "we" focus our collective efforts on managing our eco system and mastering that before we start to pursue terraforming a whole planet. Whatever shape or form that takes will be for the generation that figures it out. If we for instance engineer the weather in the Sahara desert there will be a knock on effect of the rest of the eco system so i'm sure all the additional calculations will need to be made to maintain the balance of things.
@@Michael1ndonli I'm assuming I did mis-read what you said. I originally read that you said we should terraform The Sahara or Antarctica first. Which of course would make no logical sense. Maybe somehow supplying water to the Sahara but messing with the arctic would just be bad business.
@@Michael1ndonli Also damn my original comment is a mess.... Like a complete dumpster fire. I had originally commented at work. So Plant=Planet.... And other issues...
What we’re watching is exactly how we came to be
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Thanks insane curiosity for sharing this idealisms
The question is why?! Who and why would want to commit themselves to such horrible life inside a lab prison? Existing inside such a science lab is very different to living!
You will create a WEF and UN nightmare for any good people living on Mars.
It would be nice, a new world and the old world. But, well, it could maybe be possible, the technological development is of course advancing. But how fast? Is there time to try to colonize Mars? Is it better to try to build a big "bubble" for those who might be there, those who do research etc? We need better rockets firstly, the journey can't take forever...
Anyway a good idea, you must dream big. And I hope for development in that direction, if only the funding can be arranged. Unfortunately, I will not be around to experience this
My question is if the Martian planet does not have enough water, are they going to drop asteroids on the planet and wait for the impacts to stabilize after a hundred years or more? Does Mars offer enough usefulness that out weigh the use of space stations? I question how can converting mars into an active planet happen without re-energizing the core of the planet.
@@scottwilliamson2324 what do you mean reenergizing cores?
So someone has figured out how to restore Mars' magnetosphere?
@@dave438-jw3there are multiple ways to create an artificial magnetic field, for example building a superconductor on mars equator or creating a magnetic field generator in the L1 Lagrange point of mars
in the thumbnail, how is it the human seems to require an oxygen tank, but plants seem to be growing in the background ?
I still don’t understand why all proposed Mars bases are on top of the Martian soil. With how loose the Martian dirt is and how many dangers are on top, why not put the base just underground or in hills? High winds, Martian sand, space debri, meteors, radiation, etc…it must be easier to keep everything intact slightly underground
Wouldn't matter if the Planet can't hold an atmosphere. Even if you created it. It can't hold it.
Even if all of this were to work humans are still involved and war inevitable. One example, there once was an English colony in the Americas.
until they figure out how to create a stable, active core; nothing else matters
@@lenny5774 what do you mean
@@Souleater7777 none of the terraforming will last, or likely even begin without an electromagnetic field
Could you simulate earth's gravity?
Lol i love the very "optimistic" timeline. You have people settling by 2100? We have just managed to send some fancy RC cars there.
AI is going to skyrocket the timeline now
Granted the machinery never malfunction or break down (impossible)
Everyone said most of our souls came from Mars because Mars was the first planet with humans life but nobody knows.
Yes I believe in that too, thank you for brining it up. ❤
I’ve always felt we initially came from mars. I feel like we terraformed earth then got knocked back to Stone Age somehow. What if our original civilization is still on mars or what if mars is a big graveyard
Ethical stewardship is a great idea. We should try it here on Earth.
Never happen. Yes, I said never.
You'll be better off building Bigfoot a shithouse. You'll get it built, and he'll use it before Mars is terraformed.
Wie bekloppt muß man sein, Atombomben auf dem Mars einsetzen zu wollen?
You need to push back phase 2 a few decades at least. You don’t want to start terraforming until you’re verified there’s no current life on Mars. 2040 is way too early to make that determination.
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We will live underground first! That is the reason Elon founded The Boring Company and invest in Boxable company.
"With minimal environmental impact" ??? I thought the whole point was to have maximum environmental impact.
The goal is to make Mars habitable with minimal harm to the environment. We want to create a balance where we improve Mars while preserving its natural state as much as possible.
I think buy the 2100s ai Will Be taking over
Then that means the Star Forge from Kotor 1 becomes real
Never happen we could probably build some dome like cities but that’s it
There are no energy to terraforming Mars in 500 years. It will take at least 30000-100000 years.
It might be possible in the far future depending on future energy generation technology. If technological progress doesn't slow down it could easily happen in the next 10,000 years. Too bad it's unlikely even 1 viewer of this video will live past 100 so we'll never see it ourselves. 😔
Dreaming costs nothing.
All of these pipe dreams never address the issue of how this monumental effort will be paid for. No were near enough wealth can be created by a single planetary civilization to support it.
Well, on an energy footing, it's definitely possible.
Once Martian colonists are established, they will have to be self sufficient and rely on in situ resource utilisation to survive. In the end, unless a martian currency is minted early on, much construction will probably go ahead circumventing finance out of necessity and a lack of said currency to begin with. Hope this explain the situation better!
They Already spent over 600 trillion dollars on the initial space fleet now complete.
we could do this if our human society worried less about money and the monetization of things could move beyond what we now and too a type 1 civilization alot of these dreams can come true but we as a race can't do that cuz we are selfish species
Yes
I wouldn't be surprised if we land people on Mars for a few years, pack up and leave forever, just like we did with the Moon.
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We are one thousand years away from tera forming Mars.
What about Iron nana rods for skipping most of the crap that you said for heating it up to making it warm enough for humans in just under a year and an artificial megntic field satellites
Scientists and engineers?
Will Mars ever have hairdressers, bartenders and bookmakers?
Shave head with electric razor or use scissors and a mirror, don't need bartenders just drink it yourself or with a friend, digital books are the future. There, solved your problems for you... at least to the extent that would be necessary for a fledgling colony. We could worry about the rest once the colony stabilizes.
Don't dream..by than..humanity is long gone...
What about terraforming Sahara, Gobi and other deserts instead?
Or, or we could just terraform earth back a garden of eden. Would be much easier and fulfilling. We could just do that....
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Amazing seeing all this when we, as people, can't even leave the low earth orbit, lol
Man on Mars, Will never hapen!
If you find good solutions to terraform Mars, apply them on healing the earth first. We have a jewel under our feet.
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then if we get bored of mars then well terraform Titan and thats not enough then we look for another star system, then create a star then make multiple planets and then make more and more solar systems then go further and rule andromeda, humanity conquers the universe
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2042 - the first weed is grown on mars
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Is Mars Wasted Time.
The problem is with water. Can you get some into the garden and use it, or is it out of the question.
I heard that Mars is too lacking in gravity for water to exist in liquid form on the surface. That if true it eleminates watering a garden, as the water will not stay liquid, therefore will not penetrate and moisen the soil. This alone would preclude Mars from habitation as no crops could be grown there. When we water on earth we depend on the water being draqged down into the roots by our increased gravity.
Are there any answers to this, or was this report wrong.
EG. Would a pressure filled green house change this and cause the water to stay liquid and penetrate the soil in these rooms at least.
Can this pressure replace gravity and allow colonization of Mars. Remember this pressure would only be inside a few buildings, and would not allow for crops or even natural fauna to be grown outside on any part of the unperessurized surface. There will be no fields of corn, vegetables, or wheat. In the long run this would greatly restrict the population of this planet, even kill it for long term habitation of cities full of people. I know you can say increase the atmospheric pressure, but scientists say this will take over 100 years to do, according to everything I have read.
Is there a solution to this or are we following a pipe dream, that is destined to fade out for at least 100 years, on this one point alone.
So you show how things are setting up the environment. But when you get to 2300 you show them walking in suits. Shouldn't the atmosphere and the oxygen level be better by then.