It’s so big. Trillions of galaxies Each with billions or trillions of stars. One wonders what the apex knowledge of any intelligent species is. Regardless, we’re probably as unprecedented as a fart in the wind.
I keep seeing your comments basically on all the vids I go to watch. I don’t know if you just comment on everything, or if we just have a lot in common. Either way, let’s collab on a song. We can call it “Chocolate Coincidences.”
I always enjoy visiting this channel and Event Horizon in the evening to wind down before going to sleep. Thank you John for your amazing work and dedication for everyone to enjoy and converse about.
it's very underrated and I have no idea why it's not kicking off because everything is excellent from production value, thru themes and immersive narration. Worth to mention Event Horizon which is also by far the best podcast (hosted by John) in astrophysics and cosmology with so many amazing guests.
I look forward to these every week John. I'm always so fascinated by the universe around us and the way that you guide our thoughts thru its complexities make your videos thought provoking and beautiful. I'm glad I have found a place where I can contemplate this universe with others who share my wonder and awe at its vast mysteries and the secrets we have yet to uncover.
Our understanding of the universe is constantly growing and changing as we learn more and more about it. While we may never have all the answers to some of the big questions about the universe, like what dark matter is or how the universe began, we can still learn a lot and make progress. It's like a puzzle where we keep finding new pieces and putting them together, but we may never have every single piece or know exactly what the final picture looks like. But that doesn't mean we should stop trying to learn more and expand our knowledge!
I fear that it may just end up being a complete waste of time for humanity. Although we are intelligent, we don't have the wisdom to use the knowledge responsibly. Take nuclear technology, for example. When we learned how to split the atom, the first thing we did with that technology was to build a bomb with it. Then we built nuclear power plants, even though they can be incredibly poisonous and we apparently don't have any sane way to deal with all the waste it creates. We may just end up destroying our home world without ever finding a way to live off of it.
I don’t know if I will fully understand it, but I know one thing for sure. I have a better understanding of the universe by watching this channel! Thanks JMG! 👍 🌌
My UA-cam browsing experience: Looks interesting, add to watch later. Looks pretty good, add to watch later. Oh, I like that UA-camr, add to watch later. Not to bad, add to watch later. John Michael Godier, I’ll watch that now!
Brilliant - such an excellent, all-embracing summary of what we know, what we don't yet know, and what we may never know. I love the jump from Ancient Rome to black holes via protein folds and human evolution. All in 13 minutes.
So is the idea of cyclic cosmology like rewatching a movie you’ve seen before, the events play out the exact same every time? Or like playing a game of monopoly, the fundamental elements are the same, but the outcome of each game will be different?
“There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.” ― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
"I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in a mysterious universe without having any purpose, which is the way it really is so far as I can tell. It doesn't frighten me." - Richard P. Feynman
I asked myself this question yesterday. I thought about how we in modern times have such an edge over our ancestors in understanding it, and it didn't seem fair. I wondered, could they w their limitations have been able to understand what it really was. Maybe. Maybe when you finally see it for what it is, it is that simple.
You can pull a fast one on your fans that have been around for a bit by saying "live" as quickly as possible. Or, don't finish the word, and let the video keep going. Who knew that one time you made a video when you were sick would become so iconic? 😂😂😂 Keep up the good work. Channels like yours helped a bunch of people stay sane during the lockdowns.
I really appreciated the important distinction between what we can *know* and what we can *understand*. As a mathematician, I just wondered slightly about your description of infinity at the end. It’s true that there are different kinds of infinity, and I think you were getting at the fact that one important distinction is between the so-called countable infinities (which you can enumerate with the counting numbers, 1,2,3,…) and the uncountable infinities (which you cannot). But the second example you gave - 1.1,1.2,1.3,… - is, like the first, also countable. However, the real numbers, all the possible decimal numbers, are definitely uncountable 😊 But then you talked about infinities in our theories of physics being places where the mathematics breaks down, and that maybe this hints at new physics there. I totally agree, that just because some quantity tends to infinity in a set of equations modelling the universe, doesn’t mean those infinities actually exist. It could be that we need better explanations there. However, I think that’s a slightly different issue to the different types of infinity. This is a very minor point! Thank you for another awe-inspiring video 😊
This is definitely one of my favorite channels for interesting topics and great explanations, but all delivered very nicely through a soothing voice. Thank you for doing what you do! 🍻🌎❤️🌮📺🚀
Nice one, again. Thanks. I appreciate it. You and some others have in recent times been expressing my, and many others’, thoughts in clear and understandable ways to many. This is another video topic in particular. Especially the part about we can not yet understand as we are not evolved to that point…yet.
Just got done watching the documentary "The Phenomenon" and glad to see JMG posted a video on a night like this!! (Full of speculation about life, and insomnia😂)
What about ghosts? How long will we continue to deny they exist and try to explain them using science? There must be some clues to how and why they can visit us after we die. Energy/information somehow must be preserved.
Have you ever heard of the theory of "Biocentrism"? It's the idea that consciousness is fundamental and that the universe emerges from it (i.e. the double slit experiment). Death is just an illusion due to our natural perception of time, and that actually consciousness just transfers to another source after the discontinuing of its original source. I wish John would discuss stuff like this, maybe some day, as well as parapsychology and the idea of information transferring in atypical temporal and spatial manners
I just have to point out, Mr. Godlier, that the comments posted on your video content have better overall grammar, punctuation, spelling, and syntax than most all other comment sections/threads that I most often encounter. I say this with all due respect to those individuals on other comment sections. This isn’t an insult to anyone else on any other video content comment sections and threads. So, my point being that it seems that the commenters on JMG content take more time and have more thought put into their final comments and, therefore, their deeper questions and mindset when posting those thoughts, opinions, and conclusions. This makes it all so very interesting and thought provoking for any of us that are reading those comments. This makes for an intellectual conversation that is at a level that I very wholeheartedly enjoy. I know that I sound like a grammar Nazi and like someone who might think I am superior to certain other people, but that isn’t true at all. If anything, it causes me to see just how many intelligent and very interesting people there are here who are certainly far above my own intelligence level and those are the people who I do love to learn from. That’s the bottom line. So my main point is that I do love to partake in JMG’s content and then to further read the very engaging and informative comment section and it’s threads. So many interesting people and their unique perspectives lie there in those threads and that makes for a wonderful evening of learning and following along in dialogue that I happily gestate. It really doesn’t get any better than this. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, John Michael Godier and thank you, intelligent and thoughtful commenters. You all ROCK. ✌️😃
Fantastic! Yet another open-ended philosophical monologue. How I love them! 9:46: This I didn't grok. Head-metonymically, the mind-is the only place where mathematics can possibly be done. There are people who do mathematics and those who don't, but why head? We do mathematics, physics, SciFi writing and all other intellectual stuff in our heads-where else? What am I missing? 10:00: How to tell a mathematician-extrovert from a mathematician-introvert? The extrovert mathematician looks at your shoes when talking to you, introvert at his own shoes. I'was reminded of this mathematical joke when I though that Dirac could make a better example than Einstein here. Einstein was a pretty outgoing person, generally nice, albeit not the one I would like to share an office with: he had his own… let's say, peculiarities. I read most of his books, nearly every paper, memoirs of other people, and I hazard to assert I know at least a little his thinking and personality. It took me a couple decades to grow the understanding of the man and the scientist. Dirac, on his part, never gazed away from his shoes, and opened his mouth solely to say something profound. A perfect person to share an office with. 12:51: Ha, a perfect reference to Wigner's “The Unreasonable Effectiveness...”! A super way to conclude this topic, just like Wigner concludes his essay: “We should be grateful for [the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics] and _hope_ that it will remain valid in future research[...]” (Italics mine -Cy) We're treading the path to understanding the Nature, carefully and slowly, but in the end, we have nothing but hope!!!
Imagine if we keep on zooming out from the pale blue dot, to where the solar system becomes a single dot. Still zooming out until the Milky Way is just a dot. And finally, we continue zooming out until the universe is a dot. Until we realise that the universe is part of a multiverse and that reveals trillions of additional dots. Now perhaps, all of these (multiverse) dots are just neurons of an entire brain.
Really mind-opening. The distortions of language and maths creating misconceptions is fascinating. The mind creates language, so those illusions could be inherent to our human brains, and intractably misleading. Going further, perhaps we only exist in certain realms of reality, and don't interact with all existing realms. We only perceive the phenomena in our realm, with no notion of the dimensions causing them (like quantum phenomena)
The universe will never reveal it's true nature to us. They more we discover the less we know. We are stumbling around in the dark hitting a brick wall trying to comprehend it. The only thing we can be certain of is it will be forever beyond our mental grasp
The title is misleading. Everybody from your audience, including you Mr JMG, knows that the meaning of life, universe and everything is 42! 😄 Thank you for another great video to which I already listened 5-6 times and also many of my friends appreciated. Take care and see you on next video.
To righteously embark on the journey of the ultimate understanding we should perhaps first ask ourselves what this understanding is even for. Is it simply to satiate our curiosity or rather is it to be a tool for survival. While craving for a knowledge for its own sake is obviously understandable, much too often it was used not to understand anything, but to destroy and kill. I opt for the latter and hope for the better compatibility with the judging gears of reality.
Enjoy your videos. I'd like to see your take on the following. The Second law of thermodynamics VS a universe of 13.7 billion years old that around 10 billion years later creates DNA.
Understanding the universe 🤔 well if we are to ever understand the universe we have to understand ourselves the world we live on the soloar system and the atoms and particals so no i dont think we will ever understand are universe! 🤔 But its a interesting thought! ❤
Look at how much we’ve learned as a civilization in the past 500 years. Barring us not nuking each other, imagine our knowledge and advancement compounding over a million years. Anything is possible!!!
No. When because when you look deep enough you realize literally nothing makes any sense. We exist in a place that has no true beginning and there’s no way to know even if we had all the answers.
(The following is based on the title and earlier related videos.) Snark comment: Not until after we confirm the invalidity, or not, of metaphysical stuff. (My experiences say "valid, but poorly understood, and includes a lot of one-time events". That last is a problem, but does not make said events invalid.) More logical: Maybe. It depends on whether local results can scale to the quantum scale and inter-super-super-cluster scale. (An example of the latter would be the Laniakea Supercluster, which includes the Virgo Supercluster and a few others.)
Quite thought provoking as your videos have lately been! I would argue the problem here is that we do not _all_ need to hold artificial super-intelligence level minds. We can be a jigsaw of parts that form a complete gestalt whole. The problem is more to do with time--assembling all the sufficient parts within one lifetime so they can communicate. Or maybe like the charred papyri store the partial knowledges well enough that they can be put together later. We are getting closer and closer to the latter. Maybe with uploading we will achieve the former.
There are two versions of Understanding... The first and the one that is truly valuable is "Understanding of the Why of every event that You care about." Why is more fundamental than How as far as understanding goes; how merely describes specifics or details no matter how comprehensive the description, but answering why in full is answering ALL why questions of meaning. IMO Humanity would have to become at least Kardishev Level 5 Civilization to possibly Understand Reality on this level. IE if there is some "Theory of Everything" that describes this Universe, it still would not describe OTHER Universes that probably do exist but are different than here... The bigger question of Understanding is far harder; the first is already hard beyond my estimation, but this one is exponentially or possibly infinitely harder. This is Understanding of literally every event and every type of particle or energy. Assuming there are multiple gods; most gods would come nowhere close to this even if they live billions of years. In theory only Eternal Entities could understand reality this well. It is unknowable to me if there is one Eternal Entity, or none, or some number above 1.
Fantastic video, John! Thanks! 😃 Sometimes I get myself wandering around our future evolution... Perhaps the double helix DNA doesn't hold enough information. Perhaps a triple helix? Who knows... Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
One point you didn't mention is that, ultimately, the only thing we'll ever experience is a "qualia" and never what we call the physical world itself. This is another limit in our knowledge of the universe, perhaps it is the fundamental one. I also think that our science should start there and then build upstream of that.
The human brain can not comprehend infinity. "We start at 1 and count to infinity" ... no. Infinity has no start nor an end. But humans will always see a start when contemplating infinity.
it can be summed up to as, "you don't know what you don't know." what is the question we're trying to get an answer to? We are insignificant in the scale of the universe and we're not in the wrong place we're in the wrong time.
I have an informal hunch on this one. :) Basically, the further we go into "understanding the universe" at face-value, the more we're going to have to assume as axiom that solidity just isn't a thing. Consider that mainstream science now sees nothing wrong with using atomic droplet models to describe the stability of atomic nuclei as they progress through the Periodic Table. The math of it works. Likewise there's something to be said for using fluid dynamics to arrive at further understanding of how quantum physics could be part of the macroscale universe. In essence solidity becomes a convenience for our minds, much as time is. Rationally we know it's just a variable and that the math that works best starts from a place where everything is a condensate or a droplet of some sort, but in day-to-day existence, we assume solidity is functional. It gets us dressed and feeds the cat. But in the broader universe, existence ebbs, flows, and is perhaps described as tidal. Or not. I'm just saying we might already have the tools we need to go further. It's just a question of knowing how to apply them properly.
Good point about conversant language not being up to the task of achieving true understanding due to, at its core, it ultimately is highly tenuous/nebulous. And that math too may prove insufficient...even though it clearly takes us further than conversant languages can. Speaking of which, you chose to say Penrose's CCC suggests the "universe repeats." Not exactly. More properly, it suggests the universe may bounce...endlessly even. That's a kind of (very inexact) ”repeat." So why not use it? Because someone will undoubtedly conflate/interpret that to mean the proceedings of the new universe unfolds the same way as the prior one did. Penrose does not hold that out to be the case. Instead, that hypothetical "theory" is what Futurama asserts. And omg...that episode is a must watch for anyone who hasn't yet seen it. Definitely, an all-time Top 5 episode.
I like to think that that reality was birthed from quantum chaos and shows a remarkable stability (the laws of physics as best we can figure them) by pure chance and that for us to actually break out of this reality and appreciate reality for what it actually is would require an intelligent species to develop a sense of and ability to exist in a quantum state. The universe as we know it is a fluke of chaos that to our perception is perpetual and constant, if only because we're a byproduct of it.
The more we learn about the Universe day after day, decade after decade, century after century. The more we realize and learn how much we don't know. That is the case for me anyway. This goes across the board with my life long trade skills too. The more I learn about something, the more I understand how much I don't know about said subject. I always strive to learn something new everyday. It is a beautiful thing to be honest. And very humbling. Some of this new science bothers me. As there are some in the field who claim their science is absolute. In some cases like verified knowledge it is absolute. What goes up must come down. That is absolute under the laws nature that we are all a part of. Change a condition and sometimes what goes up never comes back down. I better wrap this comment up. Or I will end up writing a novel and folks will look at this comment and go ugh. I ain't got time for all this!!! ✌
See the dashboard. Be the dashboard. Look into Dr Bernado Kastrup, example Toward a New Consciousness, for remarkable looks at what we can perceive and why based on Nobel-winning observations and implications.
Seems to me the more we learn, the more we realize how much we don't know. When I was young in the 1970s the universe seemed almost understandable with a bit more research. That was before we discovered evidence for dark matter, dark energy, "hot jupiters" that we thought couldn't exist, etc. etc. The universe seems far more mysterious and incredible now.
Not completely understanding the universe is not completely understanding ourselves. For we are not just residents of the universe, but we are part of it. Every atom of our mind and body came from the environment around us and will go back to it after we die.
The biggest question and the most worthwhile one is what happens when we die, nothing else matters if we just cease to exist. Life will be pointless, I guess we will all find out some day soon.
We will just cease to exist. That doesn’t make life pointless. Life is what you make it. Being dead is exactly the same as things were for you before you were born - nothingness. It won’t bother you a bit since you won’t be there to experience it.
Consider this: We are quantumly entangled to invidual planets/stars/moons/asteroids/comets. Look up the odd coincidence surrounding mark twains death. IF what we call our stars(aka celebrities artists musicians) are in fact the actual stars then their gravity and appeal becomes beyond poetic. As above so below. If you're really trying to read check out the book "Trespassing on Einstien's Lawn". It too does a tremendous job of describing the Universe as a causal loops created from nothing. A self excited Universe made only relevant as observation dictates. See also the dual slit experiment for more quantum support. We are in fact stars and planets. Or... you can at least augment your own reality for free this way. It helps keep everyone as equal and relevant members of a greater system.
I would suggest that evidence for multiverse lies in the expansion of our universe. It’s expansion due to dark energy and matter. Our universe is not a closed energy system. We gain energy from what is outside our universe. This force could be used to calculate the extent of the multiverse that interacts with our own universe.
If we had unlimited time, I would say there is a possibility. Given human nature, we aren't going to be around long enough to even scratch the surface; as impressive as many of our scientific discoveries are to this point. From a laymens basic grasp of the quantum world, I don't think we are evolved to ever fully understand how the universe functions at the lowest(highest)levels, but A.I. might be the key to bridge that gap.
It’s so big. Trillions of galaxies Each with billions or trillions of stars. One wonders what the apex knowledge of any intelligent species is. Regardless, we’re probably as unprecedented as a fart in the wind.
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Hi tay
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I keep seeing your comments basically on all the vids I go to watch. I don’t know if you just comment on everything, or if we just have a lot in common. Either way, let’s collab on a song. We can call it “Chocolate Coincidences.”
A fart in the wind.
Would make a good song to sing.
I always enjoy visiting this channel and Event Horizon in the evening to wind down before going to sleep. Thank you John for your amazing work and dedication for everyone to enjoy and converse about.
Thanks!
I gotta say, this is my favorite UA-cam astronomy channel. John is refreshingly open-minded while always staying true to the definitive science. :)
The second I see a new JMG video is up, I immediately hit the like button
That’s why this is one of the only channels I’ve continually watched since its conception
Always asking the most sensible questions
Not while I’m alive.
it's very underrated and I have no idea why it's not kicking off because everything is excellent from production value, thru themes and immersive narration. Worth to mention Event Horizon which is also by far the best podcast (hosted by John) in astrophysics and cosmology with so many amazing guests.
please dont ever stop making content, youre incredible
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Not during our lifetime that's for sure.
I look forward to these every week John. I'm always so fascinated by the universe around us and the way that you guide our thoughts thru its complexities make your videos thought provoking and beautiful. I'm glad I have found a place where I can contemplate this universe with others who share my wonder and awe at its vast mysteries and the secrets we have yet to uncover.
Our understanding of the universe is constantly growing and changing as we learn more and more about it. While we may never have all the answers to some of the big questions about the universe, like what dark matter is or how the universe began, we can still learn a lot and make progress. It's like a puzzle where we keep finding new pieces and putting them together, but we may never have every single piece or know exactly what the final picture looks like. But that doesn't mean we should stop trying to learn more and expand our knowledge!
I fear that it may just end up being a complete waste of time for humanity. Although we are intelligent, we don't have the wisdom to use the knowledge responsibly. Take nuclear technology, for example. When we learned how to split the atom, the first thing we did with that technology was to build a bomb with it. Then we built nuclear power plants, even though they can be incredibly poisonous and we apparently don't have any sane way to deal with all the waste it creates. We may just end up destroying our home world without ever finding a way to live off of it.
Love your channel... been listening for years. Keep up your great work.
I don’t know if I will fully understand it, but I know one thing for sure. I have a better understanding of the universe by watching this channel! Thanks JMG! 👍 🌌
My attention span has gotten so short over the years, but you sir never fail to fully engage my imagination.
My UA-cam browsing experience:
Looks interesting, add to watch later.
Looks pretty good, add to watch later.
Oh, I like that UA-camr, add to watch later.
Not to bad, add to watch later.
John Michael Godier, I’ll watch that now!
@@MindinViolet literally me!
And me 🙏🏼
Brilliant - such an excellent, all-embracing summary of what we know, what we don't yet know, and what we may never know. I love the jump from Ancient Rome to black holes via protein folds and human evolution. All in 13 minutes.
Thanks John. Your scripts enlighten and entertain. Please don’t quit.
So is the idea of cyclic cosmology like rewatching a movie you’ve seen before, the events play out the exact same every time? Or like playing a game of monopoly, the fundamental elements are the same, but the outcome of each game will be different?
Just found your channel. Love the content! Thanks for taking the time!
what a great video, John. Just fantastic. well written, great thoughts, honest reportage. Truly this is one of my favorites channels.🙌🏾☮️
Always exciting to get a notification from JMG!!! What an awesome channel! 😊
“There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”
― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
What was he taking when he thought of half the stuff he imagined
Some good LSD
This might be your best video, sir.
"I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in a mysterious universe without having any purpose, which is the way it really is so far as I can tell. It doesn't frighten me." - Richard P. Feynman
Anybody frightened by it is weak and frightened by anything.
A hostile or at least indifferent Universe could end our existence very quickly if we don't understand the rules of the game!!!!
@@robertlevy2420 The universe is absolutely indifferent to us. Unless it is somehow conscious or something lol.
@@EnigmaticEncounters420 I think in this case, when they refer to “the universe”, they mean the inhabitants of the universe as a whole.
The key take away here is, "without having any purpose"
I asked myself this question yesterday. I thought about how we in modern times have such an edge over our ancestors in understanding it, and it didn't seem fair. I wondered, could they w their limitations have been able to understand what it really was. Maybe. Maybe when you finally see it for what it is, it is that simple.
This is great! Thank you John!!!
You can pull a fast one on your fans that have been around for a bit by saying "live" as quickly as possible. Or, don't finish the word, and let the video keep going. Who knew that one time you made a video when you were sick would become so iconic? 😂😂😂
Keep up the good work. Channels like yours helped a bunch of people stay sane during the lockdowns.
0:27 Spot-on.
Brilliant takes. This man doesn't miss!
I really appreciated the important distinction between what we can *know* and what we can *understand*. As a mathematician, I just wondered slightly about your description of infinity at the end. It’s true that there are different kinds of infinity, and I think you were getting at the fact that one important distinction is between the so-called countable infinities (which you can enumerate with the counting numbers, 1,2,3,…) and the uncountable infinities (which you cannot). But the second example you gave - 1.1,1.2,1.3,… - is, like the first, also countable. However, the real numbers, all the possible decimal numbers, are definitely uncountable 😊 But then you talked about infinities in our theories of physics being places where the mathematics breaks down, and that maybe this hints at new physics there. I totally agree, that just because some quantity tends to infinity in a set of equations modelling the universe, doesn’t mean those infinities actually exist. It could be that we need better explanations there. However, I think that’s a slightly different issue to the different types of infinity. This is a very minor point! Thank you for another awe-inspiring video 😊
John da man. 💫
This is definitely one of my favorite channels for interesting topics and great explanations, but all delivered very nicely through a soothing voice. Thank you for doing what you do! 🍻🌎❤️🌮📺🚀
Keep em coming JMG!!!
Thank you for the humility.
Nice one, again. Thanks. I appreciate it.
You and some others have in recent times been expressing my, and many others’, thoughts in clear and understandable ways to many.
This is another video topic in particular. Especially the part about we can not yet understand as we are not evolved to that point…yet.
Just got done watching the documentary "The Phenomenon" and glad to see JMG posted a video on a night like this!! (Full of speculation about life, and insomnia😂)
What about ghosts? How long will we continue to deny they exist and try to explain them using science? There must be some clues to how and why they can visit us after we die. Energy/information somehow must be preserved.
Have you ever heard of the theory of "Biocentrism"? It's the idea that consciousness is fundamental and that the universe emerges from it (i.e. the double slit experiment). Death is just an illusion due to our natural perception of time, and that actually consciousness just transfers to another source after the discontinuing of its original source. I wish John would discuss stuff like this, maybe some day, as well as parapsychology and the idea of information transferring in atypical temporal and spatial manners
Guess what my neighbour is a ghost too
I just have to point out, Mr. Godlier, that the comments posted on your video content have better overall grammar, punctuation, spelling, and syntax than most all other comment sections/threads that I most often encounter. I say this with all due respect to those individuals on other comment sections. This isn’t an insult to anyone else on any other video content comment sections and threads.
So, my point being that it seems that the commenters on JMG content take more time and have more thought put into their final comments and, therefore, their deeper questions and mindset when posting those thoughts, opinions, and conclusions. This makes it all so very interesting and thought provoking for any of us that are reading those comments. This makes for an intellectual conversation that is at a level that I very wholeheartedly enjoy.
I know that I sound like a grammar Nazi and like someone who might think I am superior to certain other people, but that isn’t true at all. If anything, it causes me to see just how many intelligent and very interesting people there are here who are certainly far above my own intelligence level and those are the people who I do love to learn from. That’s the bottom line.
So my main point is that I do love to partake in JMG’s content and then to further read the very engaging and informative comment section and it’s threads. So many interesting people and their unique perspectives lie there in those threads and that makes for a wonderful evening of learning and following along in dialogue that I happily gestate. It really doesn’t get any better than this.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart, John Michael Godier and thank you, intelligent and thoughtful commenters. You all ROCK. ✌️😃
Thanks for another good one John!
Ever consider what is inconceivable is just our dead end to understanding, simply the spiritual world of a timeless creation?
We can be less wrong. ^.^
Exactly! 👍
Another banger
God dropped a video, drop everything and watch. I love falling asleep to these. I get to think big.
Very philosophical 👌🙏
Aguante tu canal locoo!
Fantastic! Yet another open-ended philosophical monologue. How I love them!
9:46: This I didn't grok. Head-metonymically, the mind-is the only place where mathematics can possibly be done. There are people who do mathematics and those who don't, but why head? We do mathematics, physics, SciFi writing and all other intellectual stuff in our heads-where else? What am I missing?
10:00: How to tell a mathematician-extrovert from a mathematician-introvert? The extrovert mathematician looks at your shoes when talking to you, introvert at his own shoes. I'was reminded of this mathematical joke when I though that Dirac could make a better example than Einstein here.
Einstein was a pretty outgoing person, generally nice, albeit not the one I would like to share an office with: he had his own… let's say, peculiarities. I read most of his books, nearly every paper, memoirs of other people, and I hazard to assert I know at least a little his thinking and personality. It took me a couple decades to grow the understanding of the man and the scientist.
Dirac, on his part, never gazed away from his shoes, and opened his mouth solely to say something profound. A perfect person to share an office with.
12:51: Ha, a perfect reference to Wigner's “The Unreasonable Effectiveness...”! A super way to conclude this topic, just like Wigner concludes his essay: “We should be grateful for [the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics] and _hope_ that it will remain valid in future research[...]” (Italics mine -Cy) We're treading the path to understanding the Nature, carefully and slowly, but in the end, we have nothing but hope!!!
Imagine if we keep on zooming out from the pale blue dot, to where the solar system becomes a single dot. Still zooming out until the Milky Way is just a dot. And finally, we continue zooming out until the universe is a dot. Until we realise that the universe is part of a multiverse and that reveals trillions of additional dots. Now perhaps, all of these (multiverse) dots are just neurons of an entire brain.
This guy has a pleasant voice and good videos.. New Sub
“The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine.” -- _John Burdon Sanderson Haldane_
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Really mind-opening. The distortions of language and maths creating misconceptions is fascinating. The mind creates language, so those illusions could be inherent to our human brains, and intractably misleading. Going further, perhaps we only exist in certain realms of reality, and don't interact with all existing realms. We only perceive the phenomena in our realm, with no notion of the dimensions causing them (like quantum phenomena)
The universe will never reveal it's true nature to us. They more we discover the less we know. We are stumbling around in the dark hitting a brick wall trying to comprehend it. The only thing we can be certain of is it will be forever beyond our mental grasp
i think theres a significant probability that its impossible to understand the universe from inside of it
...and there might not be anything outside of it
If outside even makes sense
The title is misleading. Everybody from your audience, including you Mr JMG, knows that the meaning of life, universe and everything is 42! 😄 Thank you for another great video to which I already listened 5-6 times and also many of my friends appreciated. Take care and see you on next video.
To righteously embark on the journey of the ultimate understanding we should perhaps first ask ourselves what this understanding is even for. Is it simply to satiate our curiosity or rather is it to be a tool for survival. While craving for a knowledge for its own sake is obviously understandable, much too often it was used not to understand anything, but to destroy and kill. I opt for the latter and hope for the better compatibility with the judging gears of reality.
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What a pleasant surprise!
What if we all stop looking at the Universe.. will it act differently ?!!
Great video man.... I'm consumed with wanting to know "why and how". How maybe amswered....but I think why is beyond our grasp.
Hey, that’s me in the thumbnail! 😮
Regarding the 2 types of infinity, how are they different?
1 was counting 1, 2, 3 to infinity.
2 was counting 1.1, 2.2, 3.3 etc.
Enjoy your videos. I'd like to see your take on the following. The Second law of thermodynamics VS a universe of 13.7 billion years old that around 10 billion years later creates DNA.
Understanding the universe 🤔 well if we are to ever understand the universe we have to understand ourselves the world we live on the soloar system and the atoms and particals so no i dont think we will ever understand are universe! 🤔 But its a interesting thought! ❤
You are the best!
JMG talking about Epicureanism. This is extremely my jam
Only after billions of light year convos.
Look at how much we’ve learned as a civilization in the past 500 years. Barring us not nuking each other, imagine our knowledge and advancement compounding over a million years. Anything is possible!!!
So good !!
No. When because when you look deep enough you realize literally nothing makes any sense. We exist in a place that has no true beginning and there’s no way to know even if we had all the answers.
The bigger question is- does the universe know where it came from?
The more we know - the more questions we raise
Forget that, try explaining a cheeseburger to an alien.
i really enjoy the interviews and could you do more videos about UAPs? Great voice.
(The following is based on the title and earlier related videos.)
Snark comment: Not until after we confirm the invalidity, or not, of metaphysical stuff. (My experiences say "valid, but poorly understood, and includes a lot of one-time events". That last is a problem, but does not make said events invalid.)
More logical: Maybe. It depends on whether local results can scale to the quantum scale and inter-super-super-cluster scale. (An example of the latter would be the Laniakea Supercluster, which includes the Virgo Supercluster and a few others.)
Quite thought provoking as your videos have lately been!
I would argue the problem here is that we do not _all_ need to hold artificial super-intelligence level minds. We can be a jigsaw of parts that form a complete gestalt whole. The problem is more to do with time--assembling all the sufficient parts within one lifetime so they can communicate. Or maybe like the charred papyri store the partial knowledges well enough that they can be put together later. We are getting closer and closer to the latter. Maybe with uploading we will achieve the former.
We need to build an extremely intelligent computer and ask it for the answer to the ultimate question.
Amazing video as always john. Did you ever get a chance to watch some of James fox's work? He is a film maker who covers the ufo phenomenon.
There are two versions of Understanding...
The first and the one that is truly valuable is "Understanding of the Why of every event that You care about."
Why is more fundamental than How as far as understanding goes; how merely describes specifics or details no matter how comprehensive the description, but answering why in full is answering ALL why questions of meaning. IMO Humanity would have to become at least Kardishev Level 5 Civilization to possibly Understand Reality on this level. IE if there is some "Theory of Everything" that describes this Universe, it still would not describe OTHER Universes that probably do exist but are different than here...
The bigger question of Understanding is far harder; the first is already hard beyond my estimation, but this one is exponentially or possibly infinitely harder. This is Understanding of literally every event and every type of particle or energy. Assuming there are multiple gods; most gods would come nowhere close to this even if they live billions of years. In theory only Eternal Entities could understand reality this well. It is unknowable to me if there is one Eternal Entity, or none, or some number above 1.
Fantastic video, John! Thanks! 😃
Sometimes I get myself wandering around our future evolution... Perhaps the double helix DNA doesn't hold enough information. Perhaps a triple helix? Who knows...
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
One point you didn't mention is that, ultimately, the only thing we'll ever experience is a "qualia" and never what we call the physical world itself. This is another limit in our knowledge of the universe, perhaps it is the fundamental one. I also think that our science should start there and then build upstream of that.
There are a few levels of infinity. One explanation I found useful was in One, Two, Three, Infinity by George Gamow.
Don't get me wrong, I love Event Horizon, but I love seeing you post most of your personal channel now. It should only help bring viewers too imho.
4:38 what is this quad beam blue pulsar type object called please someone?
human intelligence continued to evolve until tiktok was invented...
9:45 I know. That's so crazy. It's also a nice reminder to keep sh*t in the proper perspective.
The human brain can not comprehend infinity.
"We start at 1 and count to infinity" ...
no. Infinity has no start nor an end. But humans will always see a start when contemplating infinity.
"...or maybe it is." Well, that's reassuring!😁
it can be summed up to as, "you don't know what you don't know." what is the question we're trying to get an answer to? We are insignificant in the scale of the universe and we're not in the wrong place we're in the wrong time.
love you and this channel. I wish i could meet u one day. Are u canadian ?
I have an informal hunch on this one. :) Basically, the further we go into "understanding the universe" at face-value, the more we're going to have to assume as axiom that solidity just isn't a thing. Consider that mainstream science now sees nothing wrong with using atomic droplet models to describe the stability of atomic nuclei as they progress through the Periodic Table. The math of it works. Likewise there's something to be said for using fluid dynamics to arrive at further understanding of how quantum physics could be part of the macroscale universe.
In essence solidity becomes a convenience for our minds, much as time is. Rationally we know it's just a variable and that the math that works best starts from a place where everything is a condensate or a droplet of some sort, but in day-to-day existence, we assume solidity is functional. It gets us dressed and feeds the cat. But in the broader universe, existence ebbs, flows, and is perhaps described as tidal. Or not.
I'm just saying we might already have the tools we need to go further. It's just a question of knowing how to apply them properly.
Wait until the next video (probably going to release tomorrow). I thought about the same things, and axioms in mathematics came to the forefront.
Good point about conversant language not being up to the task of achieving true understanding due to, at its core, it ultimately is highly tenuous/nebulous. And that math too may prove insufficient...even though it clearly takes us further than conversant languages can. Speaking of which, you chose to say Penrose's CCC suggests the "universe repeats." Not exactly. More properly, it suggests the universe may bounce...endlessly even. That's a kind of (very inexact) ”repeat." So why not use it? Because someone will undoubtedly conflate/interpret that to mean the proceedings of the new universe unfolds the same way as the prior one did. Penrose does not hold that out to be the case. Instead, that hypothetical "theory" is what Futurama asserts. And omg...that episode is a must watch for anyone who hasn't yet seen it. Definitely, an all-time Top 5 episode.
I like to think that that reality was birthed from quantum chaos and shows a remarkable stability (the laws of physics as best we can figure them) by pure chance and that for us to actually break out of this reality and appreciate reality for what it actually is would require an intelligent species to develop a sense of and ability to exist in a quantum state. The universe as we know it is a fluke of chaos that to our perception is perpetual and constant, if only because we're a byproduct of it.
Im of the opinion to understand the universe you have to destroy it
Leaving one asking the question, if that is the case, whats the point?
More we understand the more we start to realize how much we don’t understand 😂
If humanity lives long enough we may. There's always that eureka moment that changes things.
I’m glad John’s suspicious gaze has broadened to the universe itself. What more could he eye suspiciously after that?
That damn opossum?
The more we learn about the Universe day after day, decade after decade, century after century. The more we realize and learn how much we don't know.
That is the case for me anyway. This goes across the board with my life long trade skills too. The more I learn about something, the more I understand how much I don't know about said subject. I always strive to learn something new everyday.
It is a beautiful thing to be honest. And very humbling.
Some of this new science bothers me. As there are some in the field who claim their science is absolute. In some cases like verified knowledge it is absolute. What goes up must come down. That is absolute under the laws nature that we are all a part of.
Change a condition and sometimes what goes up never comes back down.
I better wrap this comment up. Or I will end up writing a novel and folks will look at this comment and go ugh. I ain't got time for all this!!! ✌
See the dashboard. Be the dashboard.
Look into Dr Bernado Kastrup, example Toward a New Consciousness, for remarkable looks at what we can perceive and why based on Nobel-winning observations and implications.
BTW - he shows the magical thinking of multi-universes is an artifact of several misunderstandings.
Loved this episode, thank you JMG!
Seems to me the more we learn, the more we realize how much we don't know. When I was young in the 1970s the universe seemed almost understandable with a bit more research. That was before we discovered evidence for dark matter, dark energy, "hot jupiters" that we thought couldn't exist, etc. etc. The universe seems far more mysterious and incredible now.
Not completely understanding the universe is not completely understanding ourselves. For we are not just residents of the universe, but we are part of it. Every atom of our mind and body came from the environment around us and will go back to it after we die.
The biggest question and the most worthwhile one is what happens when we die, nothing else matters if we just cease to exist. Life will be pointless, I guess we will all find out some day soon.
We will just cease to exist. That doesn’t make life pointless. Life is what you make it.
Being dead is exactly the same as things were for you before you were born - nothingness. It won’t bother you a bit since you won’t be there to experience it.
@@ascendedessence that’s my thoughts too, not because I want there to be something after but because of things I have experienced.
Consider this: We are quantumly entangled to invidual planets/stars/moons/asteroids/comets. Look up the odd coincidence surrounding mark twains death. IF what we call our stars(aka celebrities artists musicians) are in fact the actual stars then their gravity and appeal becomes beyond poetic. As above so below. If you're really trying to read check out the book "Trespassing on Einstien's Lawn". It too does a tremendous job of describing the Universe as a causal loops created from nothing. A self excited Universe made only relevant as observation dictates. See also the dual slit experiment for more quantum support. We are in fact stars and planets. Or... you can at least augment your own reality for free this way. It helps keep everyone as equal and relevant members of a greater system.
I would suggest that evidence for multiverse lies in the expansion of our universe. It’s expansion due to dark energy and matter. Our universe is not a closed energy system. We gain energy from what is outside our universe.
This force could be used to calculate the extent of the multiverse that interacts with our own universe.
If we had unlimited time, I would say there is a possibility. Given human nature, we aren't going to be around long enough to even scratch the surface; as impressive as many of our scientific discoveries are to this point. From a laymens basic grasp of the quantum world, I don't think we are evolved to ever fully understand how the universe functions at the lowest(highest)levels, but A.I. might be the key to bridge that gap.