I had a Bengal for 19 years. She was the sweetest, most devoted and most beautiful cat you have ever seen. I have always had cats but dealing with Shundor (Beauty in Bengali) was a learning experience for us both. Bengals are insatiably curious and will poke their nose into any new thing so you have to be a little careful about what you leave lying around. They also require more stimulation than most domestic breeds so you always need to have toys around and lots of interactive play time. Two caveats to owning a Bengal, (actually they believe they own you); they have very long back legs and are incredible jumpers. Shundor could jump from the floor to the top of my 4 1/2 foot dresser without even thinking about it, then when they get up there they are annoyed that it isn't a nice place to sleep because its too crowded so they will push everything off until they are comfy. Second they are incredibly vocal. They talk all the time! They are really funny since it is fairly easy to see what they are calling about. Food is obvious, but Shundor used to get up on the bed and imperiously demand that it was time for me to come to bed with her because she was sleepy. To wrap up, she was the best cat I ever had and I still miss her 15 years after her passing.
I feel the same loss. My bengal, Buddy, died about 10 years ago and I miss him whenever I watch these kinds of videos. He was an almost entirely outside can and I know he got up to mischief, on account of how MASSIVE and SOLID his jaw muscles were! The sweetest, smartest, noisy cat I've ever had. I'd pick him up and carry him on my head, draping his front paws over my forehead with his head just above my forehead. He loved his rides. Never been able to replicate this activity with any other cat and I'm sure I never will.
I can relate to everything you say. Its incredible how similar Bengals are in behaviour and yet so different to any other cat breeds. My little monster is 1.5 years old now. I wouldnt change him for anything.
Having owned a veterinary clinic, there are so many bad things that can happen to a cat who is outside without supervision. Cations are a great solution and so is leash walking. Really nice teaching video about the breed.
The thing is... they have a LOT of energy - if you dont want or can get the energy out of them EVERY day you are in for something. Someone in my family has 2 bengals, i dont know what generation all i can say that the male is super long, never seen such a long cat in my life, that might be an indicator. They are both sterilized and have a huge house with lots of stuff to play and climb over and under - it was not enough. The male complained till he got his way and now both are daytime outside cats, he has a tracker collar with a call function and is conditioned to return home when it goes off, his paths are monitored and notifications will be dropped once he leaves his allowed zone. Female is a bit more hesitant but enjoys a roam around the neighbourhood too and has a apple thingy for tracking since the real thing would be a bit heavy on her. Yes the danger that they can be abducted is there also they live in a town with lots of tourism... i dont think that lowers the risk- but they are happy cats.
My bengal is out every day. I do walks and she follows me no problems. She lives in an apartment for most of the time. In summertime she enjoys life on an island no cars no predators. She is so much happier after a walk😂😂 and when on the island.
@@billklatsch5058 "huge house with lots of stuff to play...climb...it was not enough....now both are daytime outside cats....Yes ['kidnapping'] danger... but they are happy cats." Seems far more humane vs the 'zoo solution' - keeping a genetically part-wild, genetically high-energy predator mostly confined indoors.
I have a Bengal cat, he is 9 years old now and he is a special boy. He doesn't meow he says wahoo. he can be quite demanding sometimes, but he is the most loving cat i have had. Everyone that comes to the house loves him and so do the neighbours. He is very territorial and often i will here him screaming at other cats in the area and as you say he does not back down. He does however come to me when i whistle him. He often sits on the roof of the bungalow across from our house watching what's going on in the close. He will sit in the bedroom window chirping at the birds. its as if it is his little kingdom. sometimes when he has his claws out i have to say claws and then he will retract them as they are quite sharp. Bedford is a beautiful cat and very similar to mine. good vid
Great video and what a sweetie! The slow blinks made me melt! 😻Yes, I think your Bedford is an F5 based on looks and gentle character. And I agree, I think people should not adopt any earlier generation of hybrid cats other than F4 and REALLY do their research still. I have a F5 snow bengal and although he has the wild looks, he acts pretty much like a domestic house cat. I got him from an aquaintance who was looking for a responsible, experienced cat owner for her bengal kittens. And I happened to be looking for a feline buddy at that moment. His bloodline definitely has more Egyptian Mau than British shorthair though. My Nova is a real twink compared to your boy xD But just as much a softie as yours. It's funny to see so many similarities. My snow boy is a snugglebug and sleeps with me every night and all in all is a wonderful housemate. But I can see where people would struggle with a Bengal's unpredictable behaviour and strong prey drive. They're definitely not your ordinary housecat and a handful at times. I would not dare invite my colleague's young daughter (who loves kitties and wanted to meet him) when he was still a kitten, knowing she would get scratched and/ or bitten. Their claws are actually extra painful. Hybrid cat claws tend to be bigger, thicker and longer than regular house cats. Fortunately it's a breed that is highly trainable and if you raise them right they are very friendly, gentle cats. Nova is now 2,5 years old and calmed down significantly. There are still times where I have to correct him when he's being overly playful and excited. I don't want him to grab anyone's feet when I have people over so it's important I remind him of that. He would never intentionally hurt anyone outside of that playfulness though.
Thank you! Interesting what you said about the claws. I have noticed that Beddy's claws, and canine teeth look bigger than average but I put that down to him being a large cat.
@@BedfordtheBengal Oh yes. The raptor claws are real.😅 They also grow extra fast so clipping them is practically useless. Fortunately a good scratching post will maintain them just fine. It's funny how gentle they are around humans with those killer paws.
I saw a cute Bengal kitten with my sister at a pet shop in Orlando Florida in the early 2000’s. It was a light grey color. It looked pretty sweet when we saw it. I do loved kittens. I even saw some cute puppies.
I have a Maine Coon cat that seems to have a similar temperament. My cat, Stellabell Honeybee or Stella for short, is the sweetest, most intelligent cat I have ever had. She likes to get outside and climb trees. She won't wear a collar, so I really can't let her out. Although, she will escape out the door if I'm coming or going, and not mindful to secure the door before she sneaks out. Thanks for the information on Bengal cats!
My Bengal is twenty-one, has gone deaf and is going blind. Very very noisy when wants attention and food. Likes to sleep all day in her igloo. I put a hot water bottle at one side of igloo so she can lay against it if she wants warmth. My experience is the males are a lot more placid than the females! She does not like dry cat food. I warm sachet or tin foods and the bowl before serving it. A wonderful cat to own.
Our Bengal was odd and quite neurotic at times. She was fairly removed from the wild side. She was amazing yet quite vocal. She didn't always get along with some us namely mom. Yet she adored dad. I suspect certain cats get competitive with getting attention from opposite sex.
Awwww, Beddy! ❤ such a sweetie. Thank you for the info on Bengal cats, I didn't know about the generational thing, so that's interesting. As you know, our 2 are black British short hair & like Beddy, they are chilled, smart & fun. We can pet their bellies, Ralph will control his impulses, like if I have shoes on, he will attack my foot & I will wiggle my foot so that he really goes for it with claws & if I have barefeet, he won't attack them with claws or teeth. How he knows it feels differently, I don't know. He's quite empathic. Mapacho is less empathic, but he is a big sweetie. They're looking forward to seeing you soon! ❤❤❤
My Haplo looks just like him. He’s the sweetest most gentle smart boy. I dont believe in letting cats outside-too much danger. I think any cat can be a good cat as long as you understand what you need to do to keep them happy and healthy-both mentally and physically.
Our Bengal is very independent and impossible to stop going out side, she is allowed to roam at will but always comes back home. She is very good with children but needs she own space, this is very important. I don’t think it’s fair to have a Bengal in an apartment or flat, they need the outside to roam.
I have 2 sisters who are Bengal/domestic. An absolute handful to say the least. I hand reared them so weirdly they suckle on my throat like I am nursing them.
Ocicats, not derived from a wild cat, have similar coats and can be mistaken for a Bengal! It is also a lovely cat but pretty rare these days. They're a good choice for those who want a wild "looking" cat without the wild genes...
What happens when i can't respond to his needed attention or don't play with him enough? We want to own a bengal but afraid of he will gets crazy destroying everything and so on..
I understand! Our cat goes outside with a cat door so I can't really comment on keeping them indoors only. They do require entertainment and stimulation like any cat, but they are not dogs so I don't think they would be destructive as such.
Looks like he's F4. He's a bit too large to be F5 in my opinion. If he lived outside, he'd be a menace to all the small animals and his jaws would be HUGE! I had bengals when I lived in California and had two male bengals that lived freely outside and they had massive jaws made of SOLID muscle. They were literally the most loving and friendly cats I have ever owned as well as the smartest animal I've ever owned. Yes, smarter than any dog.
I've had Moko 5 months. She's a year. Wild 🤣🤣🤣🤣I also have a gorgeous 5 year old GSD. Best buddies. Oh how they wrestle. Also if Moko wants our attention. Lol leave the room. My shepherd and bengal rough house. But neither would hurt each other. Moko is a beautiful snow leopard. 🐆🐆
My female Bengal is a real bad bitch😁 She fights every other cat and is sooo active and talks soooo much it’s unbelievable. Every day at 5 am she starts singing😀I still love her. She is the opposite of your bengals ,I guess she is F4. I got her from an animal shelter . She is a bit short in temper and scratches or bites eventhough she seemed as if she enjoyed being pet. A very difficult lady😄
She sounds like a right little character! I do think there is a difference in temperament between boys and girls. My previous tabby moggy girl was also a feisty lady!
@@BedfordtheBengal Yes, I had a white and grey F5 female who it took me a year, I kid you not, to ingratiate myself into her good graces. She was super sweet most of the time, but bit and scratched and growled far more often than any of my male bengals did, even though they were F4! The distance from the wild is just a general rule of thumb. Each cats' temperament is unique, but you get more domesticated temperaments from F5 and beyond than from F4 and before.
i would LOVE to let my my lil baby-cat out, but I'm so scared about her being stolen! I've always loved the fluffy lil boggers and this one has stolen my heart. i would LOVE to let her run free outside but I'm so afraid f losing the best friend I've ever ad!!
Totally understandable. Just be super active with your cat and you should be able to give her the attention she deserves. Play with her all the time. The worst thing a pet owner can do is neglect their animals need for attention. This is why I have never owned a dog. They require too much attention and I don't want to give that much attention to my animals, so I stick with low maintenance animals like cats. Cats require a much better amount of attention than dogs. Namely, much less.
I know this is a bit older, but hey Beds!!! Oh how I simply adore him and you (also your husband or partner) hope you're all doing ok? He's amazing is Beddy!! Hope you enjoyed your food lovely!!! Was super interesting how they came about really I think their I believe (as its based on Latin lol, or is Latin) some say their taxonomical name or which ever for the Asian Leopard is Bengalis or something like that anyways. They found though (as some owners wanted the markings of that kind the rosette markings or some wild animal markings) that the Asian Leopard they'd be perfectly fine to begin with but would become really aggressive, so people kept essentially abandoning them as they just weren't suitable as domestic cats like what you've said in this video really.
Not even that big as far as male bengals are concerned. My two big boys were easily 8kg or more. They were heavy and HUGE. Big jaw muscles made of solid muscle, but neither of them ever bit, or even scratched me their entire lives. Not once!
He’s a lovely boy, but NO cat should be allowed to roam free outdoors. It is too dangerous for them and they are too destructive of wildlife, particularly songbirds.
I had a Bengal for 19 years. She was the sweetest, most devoted and most beautiful cat you have ever seen. I have always had cats but dealing with Shundor (Beauty in Bengali) was a learning experience for us both. Bengals are insatiably curious and will poke their nose into any new thing so you have to be a little careful about what you leave lying around. They also require more stimulation than most domestic breeds so you always need to have toys around and lots of interactive play time. Two caveats to owning a Bengal, (actually they believe they own you); they have very long back legs and are incredible jumpers. Shundor could jump from the floor to the top of my 4 1/2 foot dresser without even thinking about it, then when they get up there they are annoyed that it isn't a nice place to sleep because its too crowded so they will push everything off until they are comfy. Second they are incredibly vocal. They talk all the time! They are really funny since it is fairly easy to see what they are calling about. Food is obvious, but Shundor used to get up on the bed and imperiously demand that it was time for me to come to bed with her because she was sleepy. To wrap up, she was the best cat I ever had and I still miss her 15 years after her passing.
I feel the same loss. My bengal, Buddy, died about 10 years ago and I miss him whenever I watch these kinds of videos. He was an almost entirely outside can and I know he got up to mischief, on account of how MASSIVE and SOLID his jaw muscles were! The sweetest, smartest, noisy cat I've ever had. I'd pick him up and carry him on my head, draping his front paws over my forehead with his head just above my forehead. He loved his rides. Never been able to replicate this activity with any other cat and I'm sure I never will.
I can relate to everything you say. Its incredible how similar Bengals are in behaviour and yet so different to any other cat breeds. My little monster is 1.5 years old now. I wouldnt change him for anything.
Outside? There's no way I let my Bengal outside to roam free. People would steal him
Having owned a veterinary clinic, there are so many bad things that can happen to a cat who is outside without supervision. Cations are a great solution and so is leash walking. Really nice teaching video about the breed.
The thing is... they have a LOT of energy - if you dont want or can get the energy out of them EVERY day you are in for something.
Someone in my family has 2 bengals, i dont know what generation all i can say that the male is super long, never seen such a long cat in my life, that might be an indicator.
They are both sterilized and have a huge house with lots of stuff to play and climb over and under - it was not enough.
The male complained till he got his way and now both are daytime outside cats, he has a tracker collar with a call function and is conditioned to return home when it goes off, his paths are monitored and notifications will be dropped once he leaves his allowed zone.
Female is a bit more hesitant but enjoys a roam around the neighbourhood too and has a apple thingy for tracking since the real thing would be a bit heavy on her.
Yes the danger that they can be abducted is there also they live in a town with lots of tourism... i dont think that lowers the risk- but they are happy cats.
My bengal is out every day. I do walks and she follows me no problems. She lives in an apartment for most of the time. In summertime she enjoys life on an island no cars no predators. She is so much happier after a walk😂😂 and when on the island.
I take mine out everyday. She just sits on the deck with me.
@@billklatsch5058 "huge house with lots of stuff to play...climb...it was not enough....now both are daytime outside cats....Yes ['kidnapping'] danger... but they are happy cats." Seems far more humane vs the 'zoo solution' - keeping a genetically part-wild, genetically high-energy predator mostly confined indoors.
I have a Bengal cat, he is 9 years old now and he is a special boy. He doesn't meow he says wahoo. he can be quite demanding sometimes, but he is the most loving cat i have had. Everyone that comes to the house loves him and so do the neighbours. He is very territorial and often i will here him screaming at other cats in the area and as you say he does not back down. He does however come to me when i whistle him. He often sits on the roof of the bungalow across from our house watching what's going on in the close. He will sit in the bedroom window chirping at the birds. its as if it is his little kingdom. sometimes when he has his claws out i have to say claws and then he will retract them as they are quite sharp. Bedford is a beautiful cat and very similar to mine. good vid
That sounds a lot like Beddy! 😂 They are such special cats 💖🐆
Excellent video. I’m getting a Bengal this weekend. Cheers from Seattle✅
Oh wow! Come back an let us know all about it! 😻🐆 Bengals are such special cats 💖
Hi, I was wondering how the Bengal cat is doing for you. I'm set to have one in 7 more weeks.
He’s gorgeous and you have an awesome bond
Great video and what a sweetie! The slow blinks made me melt! 😻Yes, I think your Bedford is an F5 based on looks and gentle character.
And I agree, I think people should not adopt any earlier generation of hybrid cats other than F4 and REALLY do their research still. I have a F5 snow bengal and although he has the wild looks, he acts pretty much like a domestic house cat. I got him from an aquaintance who was looking for a responsible, experienced cat owner for her bengal kittens. And I happened to be looking for a feline buddy at that moment. His bloodline definitely has more Egyptian Mau than British shorthair though. My Nova is a real twink compared to your boy xD But just as much a softie as yours. It's funny to see so many similarities.
My snow boy is a snugglebug and sleeps with me every night and all in all is a wonderful housemate. But I can see where people would struggle with a Bengal's unpredictable behaviour and strong prey drive. They're definitely not your ordinary housecat and a handful at times. I would not dare invite my colleague's young daughter (who loves kitties and wanted to meet him) when he was still a kitten, knowing she would get scratched and/ or bitten. Their claws are actually extra painful. Hybrid cat claws tend to be bigger, thicker and longer than regular house cats. Fortunately it's a breed that is highly trainable and if you raise them right they are very friendly, gentle cats.
Nova is now 2,5 years old and calmed down significantly. There are still times where I have to correct him when he's being overly playful and excited. I don't want him to grab anyone's feet when I have people over so it's important I remind him of that. He would never intentionally hurt anyone outside of that playfulness though.
Thank you! Interesting what you said about the claws. I have noticed that Beddy's claws, and canine teeth look bigger than average but I put that down to him being a large cat.
@@BedfordtheBengal Oh yes. The raptor claws are real.😅 They also grow extra fast so clipping them is practically useless. Fortunately a good scratching post will maintain them just fine. It's funny how gentle they are around humans with those killer paws.
I saw a cute Bengal kitten with my sister at a pet shop in Orlando Florida in the early 2000’s. It was a light grey color. It looked pretty sweet when we saw it. I do loved kittens. I even saw some cute puppies.
I have a Maine Coon cat that seems to have a similar temperament. My cat, Stellabell Honeybee or Stella for short, is the sweetest, most intelligent cat I have ever had. She likes to get outside and climb trees. She won't wear a collar, so I really can't let her out. Although, she will escape out the door if I'm coming or going, and not mindful to secure the door before she sneaks out. Thanks for the information on Bengal cats!
Gorgeous cat. His markings are symmetrical.
My Bengal is twenty-one, has gone deaf and is going blind. Very very noisy when wants attention and food.
Likes to sleep all day in her igloo. I put a hot water bottle at one side of igloo so she can lay against it if she wants warmth. My experience is the males are a lot more placid than the females!
She does not like dry cat food. I warm sachet or tin foods and the bowl before serving it.
A wonderful cat to own.
Our Bengal was odd and quite neurotic at times.
She was fairly removed from the wild side.
She was amazing yet quite vocal.
She didn't always get along with some us namely mom.
Yet she adored dad.
I suspect certain cats get competitive with getting attention from opposite sex.
Awwww, Beddy! ❤ such a sweetie. Thank you for the info on Bengal cats, I didn't know about the generational thing, so that's interesting. As you know, our 2 are black British short hair & like Beddy, they are chilled, smart & fun. We can pet their bellies, Ralph will control his impulses, like if I have shoes on, he will attack my foot & I will wiggle my foot so that he really goes for it with claws & if I have barefeet, he won't attack them with claws or teeth. How he knows it feels differently, I don't know. He's quite empathic. Mapacho is less empathic, but he is a big sweetie. They're looking forward to seeing you soon! ❤❤❤
Bedford is the absolute bestttt Bengal ❤
Bestford 😹
@@BedfordtheBengal oh yaaaaa❤❤❤
It's very easy to train a Bengal cat to go for walks on a harness, especially as a kitten, my Snow Bengal Cairo loves his walks outside❤
My Haplo looks just like him. He’s the sweetest most gentle smart boy. I dont believe in letting cats outside-too much danger. I think any cat can be a good cat as long as you understand what you need to do to keep them happy and healthy-both mentally and physically.
Our Bengal is very independent and impossible to stop going out side, she is allowed to roam at will but always comes back home. She is very good with children but needs she own space, this is very important. I don’t think it’s fair to have a Bengal in an apartment or flat, they need the outside to roam.
I agree. They are athletic, high energy cats. It would be a challenge to meet Bedford's exercise needs indoors.
He is precious
Thank you!
I have 2 sisters who are Bengal/domestic. An absolute handful to say the least. I hand reared them so weirdly they suckle on my throat like I am nursing them.
@@loadedfun4764 Adorable!! 😍
Those markings are beautiful .
Ocicats, not derived from a wild cat, have similar coats and can be mistaken for a Bengal! It is also a lovely cat but pretty rare these days. They're a good choice for those who want a wild "looking" cat without the wild genes...
They sound awesome! 🐆
Bedford is so handsome
His full name is Bedford Smithington Blythe ❤ 😅
What happens when i can't respond to his needed attention or don't play with him enough? We want to own a bengal but afraid of he will gets crazy destroying everything and so on..
I understand! Our cat goes outside with a cat door so I can't really comment on keeping them indoors only. They do require entertainment and stimulation like any cat, but they are not dogs so I don't think they would be destructive as such.
Looks like he's F4. He's a bit too large to be F5 in my opinion. If he lived outside, he'd be a menace to all the small animals and his jaws would be HUGE! I had bengals when I lived in California and had two male bengals that lived freely outside and they had massive jaws made of SOLID muscle. They were literally the most loving and friendly cats I have ever owned as well as the smartest animal I've ever owned. Yes, smarter than any dog.
Im getting one soon in mid octobre Spotted Brown mâle i have 2 mâle at home Scottish fold Blue point and cashmere Bengal 2years old going to be fun 😅
Gorgeous!! How wonderful 🙂
I've had Moko 5 months. She's a year. Wild 🤣🤣🤣🤣I also have a gorgeous 5 year old GSD. Best buddies. Oh how they wrestle. Also if Moko wants our attention. Lol leave the room. My shepherd and bengal rough house. But neither would hurt each other. Moko is a beautiful snow leopard. 🐆🐆
That is awesome!
Is it normal for bengals to wolf down food or do you think it could be how it was raised?
Probably depends on the cat.a bit of nature and nurture!
Bedford is a slow, picky eater.
My bengals always used to eat fast, but it really is a matter of personality.
i have 2 Bengals. they are amazing
God bless you amen
My female Bengal is a real bad bitch😁
She fights every other cat and is sooo active and talks soooo much it’s unbelievable. Every day at 5 am she starts singing😀I still love her. She is the opposite of your bengals ,I guess she is F4. I got her from an animal shelter . She is a bit short in temper and scratches or bites eventhough she seemed as if she enjoyed being pet. A very difficult lady😄
She sounds like a right little character! I do think there is a difference in temperament between boys and girls. My previous tabby moggy girl was also a feisty lady!
@@BedfordtheBengal Yes, I had a white and grey F5 female who it took me a year, I kid you not, to ingratiate myself into her good graces. She was super sweet most of the time, but bit and scratched and growled far more often than any of my male bengals did, even though they were F4! The distance from the wild is just a general rule of thumb. Each cats' temperament is unique, but you get more domesticated temperaments from F5 and beyond than from F4 and before.
are f3's good? im guessing that means 1/9 bengals ish...
I've never met one, so I can't really speak to that. Bengals are very special cats though 🐆 such interesting personalities.
@@BedfordtheBengal ooh i just had a cray thought: nf4 bengal and the other breeds are all siberians: siberian bengal!!!
i would LOVE to let my my lil baby-cat out, but I'm so scared about her being stolen! I've always loved the fluffy lil boggers and this one has stolen my heart. i would LOVE to let her run free outside but I'm so afraid f losing the best friend I've ever ad!!
Totally understandable. Just be super active with your cat and you should be able to give her the attention she deserves. Play with her all the time. The worst thing a pet owner can do is neglect their animals need for attention. This is why I have never owned a dog. They require too much attention and I don't want to give that much attention to my animals, so I stick with low maintenance animals like cats. Cats require a much better amount of attention than dogs. Namely, much less.
Many black cats have them markings
When are you going to transition him to a natural raw or whole prey diet? I recommend watching paws of prey because she every informative
We're not planning to do that. He has human grade food right now and he's fussy!
I know this is a bit older, but hey Beds!!!
Oh how I simply adore him and you (also your husband or partner) hope you're all doing ok?
He's amazing is Beddy!! Hope you enjoyed your food lovely!!!
Was super interesting how they came about really I think their I believe (as its based on Latin lol, or is Latin) some say their taxonomical name or which ever for the Asian Leopard is Bengalis or something like that anyways.
They found though (as some owners wanted the markings of that kind the rosette markings or some wild animal markings) that the Asian Leopard they'd be perfectly fine to begin with but would become really aggressive, so people kept essentially abandoning them as they just weren't suitable as domestic cats like what you've said in this video really.
Thank you! He's such a special boy, we love him so much 🥰😍
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Beautiful.
A cat that weighs 6.5 kg is insane.
He's a BIG BOI!
Not even that big as far as male bengals are concerned. My two big boys were easily 8kg or more. They were heavy and HUGE. Big jaw muscles made of solid muscle, but neither of them ever bit, or even scratched me their entire lives. Not once!
Our Maine coon was 10kg and a big sweetie although not to everyone 😂
He’s a lovely boy, but NO cat should be allowed to roam free outdoors. It is too dangerous for them and they are too destructive of wildlife, particularly songbirds.
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