TASCAM MODEL 24 ||| Hybrid Mixing: A Complete Walk Through
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- A walk through of Hybrid Mixing. Sending the signal out of your DAW into the Model 24. While recording the main outs of the console back into your DAW simultaneously. USing this technique is a hands on way to arrange your song and also add some of the sonic character of this board into your mix.
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My man!! youre like the only person who does proper videos on the model 24 on youtube, big up yourself!! I ordered one yesterday and I wanted to see somebody send multiple signals into the DAW at once, could you set that up and do a video on it? thank you bro
Also I'm digging your music man, giving me some mad Channel Tres vibes, no racial tho hahah
@@OONNZZ Ayyyyyyyyy(drian) whats good Adrian?? Ive had mine for about 3 weeks now and its the shit!! I use a Maschine Mk3 and I can use the interface to sample directly into the Mk3 with only USB connections from the Model 24 and the Mk3 into my laptop. Its so seamless and frees up instrument cables for other things. Enjoy the device
@@whichadrian Peace! I use Mk3 as well with mine, but I'm having difficulty reestablishing my initial intended work flow.
You're the 1st person I've seen online that even remotely mentioned the Mk3 & Model 24 together. I think we should connect and have a meeting of the minds, as you may be able to help me. I've had my Model 24 for 7 months now. However, as I'm just now getting the most inspiration to create new things... I'm apparently missing a step in the process I use to track out my sounds individually into each track on the Tascam. Also, I attempted to work around the issue by simply plugging quarter inch jacks from the L & R outs of the Mk3 to record into the L & R input of the Tascam (via 19/20). That too was unsuccessful. Can ya help?
I know I'm just going to say what everyone else is saying, but THANK YOU for making these videos for the Model 24. Everyone is giving a sales pitch and you're showing how to actually work with it. Again, thank you. Be safe and keep'em coming!
Mutt O'Matic This guy is great. I actually tried to get through to Tascam to tell them about Stephan’s vids. He’s far better than anyone else with this board! If not for him, it would still be in the box
Just wanna say thanks for the tips....very helpful.
Learned more from the few videos you've posted than I have from the owners manual. Just got mine this week so I'm still at a huge leaning curve
Cheers!
Thanks Stefan! Keep making these videos! I just purchased the Tascam Model 24. I am loving it, learning & creating my Gospel song recordings. Watching your work is inspiring! I am a Subscriber. Keep your video coming..and I'll keep learning!
Got my tascam a few months ago and haven't been using it to its full potential! These videos were so helpful and I look forward to more! thanks!
Many, many thanks for this video. I tried it alone for half a night without any result. Then your video and it works. Great! Greetings from Germany!
Thank you for this. I got the 24 about 6 months ago and in ashamed to admit I've only been using it as an interface. No its time to experiment with mixing and mastering with it. thanks again for the great info man
Just ordered one yesterday and stumbled on your channel my brotha. Thank you for this tutorial. Subscribed. Peace
Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks a lot 🔥
Just found this video what a life saver, thanks a bunch ma man
Appreciate your videos! My Model 24 is going back though... this thing costs too much to NOT be a controller as well. They really missed the boat with this thing.
I sent it back after a day. The analog side was fine - the board sounded great... I just could not wrap my head around WHY I would force my DAW through it in that manner. It just didn't click with me. It's as if... the board is the board, the daw is the daw... and short of mass exporting all the files back and forth - and I just can't see the point of going through that awkward setup. The M-Audio Project Mix I/O of yester-year got this so right... I think Tascam has got this really wrong.
@@mathewworkman1625 its a analogue board.. with 100mm 24 track.. there is nothing like that that would also be a daw controller at 1000$... presonus are 4000$ and dont have a mtr onboard.
Your insane.
Just get a ivon nano fpr 300... with a motorised fader and you can control logic
@@lawyer6343 No... it would not have cost that much to make it a controller. With or without motorized faders... M-Audio Project Mix I/O , Zoom, Behringer - there are lots of examples of controllers that don't cost that much. In fact - I know you are wrong because the smaller Tascam in this very family of products IS a DAW Controller. I'm not insane, you are just ignorant. I don't know you - but I know I've owned more mixing boards and interfaces than you, and could myself build a controller - hardware and software.
@@mathewworkman1625 the model 12 is a digital only.... the 24 is a analogue...to overlay it with 24 channel of digital would make it 3 time that price.
Imagine 2x model 12 digital layout... you are ignorant..
Why do you think presonus sell their 24 track 3000 and up
@@mathewworkman1625 iv work at design for mackie for 12 years..... so go ahead teach me about cost....
Its already amazing that they put a 24 track recorder in the board for that price.
just what I needed! Thanks!
This doesn’t help me understand if this Tascam is right for me, but I did however enjoy the video. The music your making here is similar to what I like to do. I use Reason 10 and wonder how the Tascam would integrate into Reason. I assume each track would record to the corresponding tracks in the DAW. Midi is a whole other issue. Recording midi that is. But I would like to just be able to record separate tracks simultaneously as they are all clocked together. Trying to work with analog gear is challenging when it comes to everything. This Tascam looks like a great solution for that.
Damn homie thanks! The best one UA-cam..
Music is cool! Thanks for the video
banger after banger thanks for the help +1
You may be aware but you can record in Logic without the 'input monitoring' turned on. And would still here the audio from the mixer output.
Great video. Thanks!
Super useful - thank you!
Nice video Stefan! Im thinking about getting a tascam model 16...
Do you first record all tracks in your daw using the audio interface from the Model 24 and after you finish the record you switch the channel modes to receive the same tracks from daw to tascam and use the EQ, faders and effects to print the mix in a stereo master track?
Thanks
Yo! Sounds amazing!
There are several ways to interface a Model 24 to a Apple using Logic Pro X. If all else fails read the Instruction Manual from Tascam Model 24 and Logic Pro X.
Dubwise. This is dope!!
I have a question,
Is it possible to mix all the effects from the board to the DAW? I'm using Adobe Audition so maybe it is a problem with the DAW itself. However, the DAW is able to read the faders as well as the input gain for the volume. The EQ's however don't show up in the final export. Does this make sense? Please help!
Once you buss all your tracks (say track-channels 1-thru-22) to the Main output to record back into your DAW (23/24), during the re-recording, how do you 'monitor' the 2-mix coming back into the console without feedback? What channels on the Model 24 do the outputs of tracks 23/24 show up?
You mute the return channel in you DAW, and monitor from your speakers while you are recording.
If I were a mixer inventor I would suggest them 12AX7 Tubes for Warmth factor in the main out.
Can you dock this thing, though?? For example: Say your session is 32 tracks long. Can you use the onboard eq's etc to manipulate the first 16 tracks, and then "scoot" it over and use those eqs to manipulate the next 16 tracs and so on and so forth?? Or - are you "stuck" on those 16 traqcks? Also, can you use the faders for automation in your DAW?? Music sounds great, by the way!
Juke? Thought you were going to bring the kick back in when you started to mess with the effects. Nice beat!
hey, so is it feasible to have automation on faders for some individual tracks, then send those tracks to a bus, then send the bus output to the tascam model 24. This way you get to do some preliminary mixing in the box, and then further mix it down on the tascam?
Hey my good brother let me ask you a question. I am new to the Tascam model 24 and it looks like you have a lot of experience….. my question is, would a patchbay be an easier process or it’s not needed? If it’s better to use one, I would I connect a patchbay and a model 24?
Hi ! Super video mate. i was wondering if assignating each layer when you move each logic faders independently on the Tascam does it move the one corresponding in logic ? As a DAW controller ? (Model 12 actually can do that but 24??)
How do I get Chanelle 1 and 2 to play separate tracks instead of it being by default playing the song through 1 and 2? I want all the chanells cleared for all my tracks from my daw? Also why only the eq works and not the other knobs??
What V firmware are you doing this with? Would this end up working as a DAW control, like the 12? I'm recording drum tracks, I'll need at least 8 audio input, and outputs from the XLR's. Thanks, if anyone knows, it's you
Hey man! Thanks for these vids! I got a question regarding bussing. Is there any way to further process the SUB? I imagine you could use the SUB out to connect an analog compressor or smth and then go back in one of the Stereo channels. But is there a way you can process the SUB in your DAW as well?
Alright bud nice vid, when you record back in through the master on the tascam there does the eq and compressor from the tascam record back in as well
Cheers
Yes, otherwise the signal coming out of the mixer would be the same as the one going in?
Joseph Whittle tbh when u put it like that its a pretty daft question lol cheers foe answering that mate
Joseph Whittle i know the EQS dont transfer to the DAW when using it as an interface but do they record to the SD If your using it a multi track without a daw if that made any sense
Dope video, bro. Thanks for putting it together. I have a Soundcraft Signature 22 MTK mixing console and it looks like both boards are kind of similar. Just noticed that you're not using stereo pairs. Ever use them in your setup?
What i font understand is that on my 24... if i do this i have to have pfl push in... and the only way i can mic like that is by transfering the track from logic into the mtr...
What am i foing wrong?
cool video bro I loved it and made confidence in my choice.
I got the Model 24 as well and but found it won't be recognized as audio interface with my pc(windows 10)... it would be very helpful if you could tell me how did you set up yours. Thanks!
Dear Stefan.. If I route tracks from my beat in logic to the mixer via Usb and not jack cables... Will the eq, comp etc still work on the respective channels on the mixer if I record back to logic analog from the master of the mixer?
Again thanks for the video. U are awesome
Yes it will. You would have to record them back into logic individually from the stereo bus.
Sweet... still half lost.
I wanna use this with my DAW and RMX drums
Nice fam!!
@Stefan Ringer How did you get inputs 23/24 to show up in your daw? I'm running ableton, and the inputs/outputs i can enable only go up to 22. Thank you for the videos, I've learned a lot from them.
We need Channel strips who are complete...6 knobs for eq, 6 knobs forx effects, gates/compressor and q factor per channel plus sd card recorder.
why my tascam 24 cannot be connect to my mac???
can be connect but doesnt with speaker.
How does the Tascam work with automation? Do the faders have motors that move the faders to show the automation happening in the daw itself, or no?
Thanks!
Thank you!!!
Why would you record it back into software?? Just keep it on the mixer
Hi! Is there some nice clean saturation or maybe better to buy a summing mixer for that? Which conversion did you use from DAW to mixer- audio interface or internal Tascam kind of have it through usb? Thanks!
are you going main outputs on the model 24 do your studio monitors? or going monitor out to your monitors? im confused on what to do, because i heard if you go monitors out you cant hear the eq or faders? am i crazy?
I think “monitors” means live monitors, like for a stage. Like, a separate mix. Mains would be your fully mixed signal.
Hi very nice video Thank you, can you control the daw channels with the channels on the mixer? Thank you
Hey do you use midi connection with your daw?
Hey! hows going? i got a question...i tweak the compressors and i dont get any signal, how i turn them on?
wsup bro would you be able to explain how to record in logic and also the Tascam model 16 simultaneously
Hey man thanks for this. How are you separating tracks for logic onto the desk? Are you breaking them up via da convertors? Etc? And how do you find the sound of being mixed on the mixer as opposed to in the box? Are you hearing a nicer warmer, analogue mix?
You won't hear any 'warmth' from these channels/pres. Analog doesn't automatically translate to 'color'. Also fwiw, 'warmth' is an extremely overused and irrelevant term. The warmth you're hearing may be coming from the singers voice or pleasant instrumentation.
The tracks are dumped back into the model 24 via USB when you go to mix on the console. Converters would be used primarily when you go to dump tracks into your daw (assuming you don't want to use usb)
Hey man ! I have this mixer and I have a 10 mic drum setup. I want to record all my tracks into my Daw, but I ran into the problem that I cannot mix EQ or Effect into my Daw (Logic). just trying to figure out, How can I mix my EQs/ effects in my inputs? Help!
im using mixbus v8.1 and cant make it qork can you help
How you like the EQs bruh? Are they bland or do they have some flavor like something you don’t get from using plugins?
Hey what is that midi hub? Can you still record midi into logic and audio with the tascam? for each channel , at the same time as recording the audio ?
Hey man thanks for the video. I just got a model 12. Can you route a track from logic to channel 1 and 2 on the board? It’s says (part of stereo output) on the output of the channel I’m trying to send to the board. Thanks
good man ! Just got my 16...........
How are you able to use your faders on the Model 24 with your DAW
Firstly, awesome track.
Secondly, a quick mixing Q - have watched a few videos and I still can't grasp the whole ins/outs situation. Do I need a 24 channel audio interface to take the audio to the separate channels on the mixer or does this function by USB alone? i only have a 2 in/out audio interface at the moment.
It works with usb alone you won’t need an interface
I've got to try this tomorrow. I've got 2 problems. 1 I'm recording drum tracks, using 7 mics. The big problem is, I'm using a PC. When i try to download the drivers, I'm getting a message saying the download isn't ready (it was supposed to be ready 3/10) i may just go buy a Mac tomorrow. Even when i record to the SD, my pc is only letting me play a channel at a time. Let me try and send everything to the main, record on the SD, and hopefully all the tracks will come together.
Hi Stefan, your videos are great! Can I ask you if it’s possible to record from the mixer to the DAW on individual tracks? I saw you can record individual tracks in your mixer SD and then send that to your daw, but is it possible to do that directly to your DAW without using the SD? Also can u record in mono only? Thank you man!
You set that up in your DAW. The mixer is just an audio interface at this point. You set up your inputs according to what you are recording (stereo or mono)
Hi brother. Thanks for the videos. I used to use perfectly the m2; with garageband. I upgraded the firmware but, a message (usb fs mismatch) appears and doesn’t bring back the sound. I really appreciate if you can make a video saying how to run tascam with garageband or fix that message.
Thank you.
thank you
Hi dear ! are the 17 white faders usable when daw controlling??? or only the first 8 ones get automatically set up with mackie protocols??? thanks in advance
None of the above. Only model 12 can support mackie protocol.
Can the tascam 24sd do this?
What's up bro, have you tried to send your beat from the mpcx to the model 24 using the usb to track out to each channel?
Im not sure this is possible. The MPC X and MPC Live are standalone units so they have their own outputs. You may could do this with the MPC Touch using the MPC software and the Model 24 as an interface.
Can I run the Model 24 through a Focusrite interface? I’d like to incorporate the 24 with the Focusrite software. You have a talent with this stuff. For a mere mortal, who sucks at using recording software, I’ve been having a hell of a time using the 24 as an interface ☹️
You can run the Model 24 through another interface. I would suggest using the L&R Sub Bus outs to the interface. For the channels you want to record you would make sure the sub button is pressed down and the sub fader is at unity. Doing it this way you wont be able to record each sound individually tracked out into your DAW (unless you were recording two channels and 1 was panned all the way right and the other all the way left). So running it this way would only give you ability to record two channels at a time individually.
make sure the model 24 and your daw are on teh same sample rate (44.1 or 48) they have to match for things to work
Stefan Ringer Thanks again. I’ll give it a shot, and see what I can do. I recommended your vids over the official Tascam vids, as it seems they’re just reading from a script. One of the guys got the model 12. It comes with a DAW controller. Do you know if the firmware update ever started working? If so, did they add the DAW control feature to the 24?
Stefan Ringer I’m learning about the sample rate, and preferences the hard way. The interface came with Pro Tools First, and Abelton lite. I installed Abelton lite first, and now I have some kind of miscommunication, as I can’t get past an error message, or even open a new template. Abelton can record instrumentals, as you probably know, but Pro Tools seems the way to go recording drums. Anyway, thanks again for the info. I can definitely make use out of 2 extra channels.
Hello Stefan, just a quick question: Is this board any good for live streaming on UA-cam using OBS or any streaming software? I am thinking of getting one for the Studio but also use it for streaming?
Tbh, I wouldn't recommend the Model 24 for use with OBS OR Streamlabs OBS. I have tried using the model24 with both of these apps. I could only get signal from inputs 1 & 2. Neither program could receive audio from the remaining 20 channel inputs. I can only speak on the model 24 though.
@@stefanringerfwm Thank you very much for your reply. I am currently tossed between the Tascam Model 24, Soundcraft Signature 22MTK and Presonus Studiolive AR16c. They all do multitrack Recording which is what I need. Any recommendation because of the issues with streaming?
@@danasmah I have the Soundcraft Signature 12MTK. and tested it with OBS. OBS will only allow audio from the first two channel inputs. I assume this will happen for the presonus as well. It seems to me that OBS or SLOBS won't support more than 2 inputs on any 1 audio input capture. Even when you open up a second audio input capture, there is still no way to specify what individual channels are being used on the model 24 or SOUND SIG MTK
Forgive me bro, but manufacturers dont bother answering questions anymore and leave it up to content creators these days. Im a podcaster. What channel would a skype caller (or cpu mains)come back on the mixer (recording using mixer, no DAW)? #Dawless #podcastHardware #TascamModel12 #TascamModel24 #TascamModel16
Skype Audio/Video Settings > Speakers Drop down menu > select Model 24 > select test audio
ON MODEL 24 GO to Channels 1&2 > change mode switch to PC > bring up fader
I hope you push that screen back when you actually go to mix😅
The Mixer misses 4 band vari eq plus q factor.... compressor per channel...then it would be perfect, inserts are missing too..afaics.. Best innovative thing is SD Card recording.
Yo! How do you set up the I/O's in Pro Tools to do hybrid mixing?
I don’t use protools but the concept is the same. You need to learn the signal flow of protools and set your I/O accordingly.
@@stefanringerfwm Thank you. Do you have a video where you set up your I/O's using your own DAW?
Are you able to combine mono channels into stereo in the daw, for example if I want input 3 and 4 on the mixer as one stereo channel in the daw
Yes you can do that
@@stefanringerfwm do you have to use channel 1 and 2 for the DAW main monitor out? I want the model 12 and just want to send 10 mono channels from the DAW to mix on the board and record the stereo mix back to the DAW?
PS. I just got the model 12. I need an USB to connect to PC. ( Tascam won’t answer).
Why is it call hybrid ??
Des vidéos en langue française, ce serai sympa aussi !
which would be good for mixing rap vocals the Tascam DP32 SD or The model24 or does it even matter
To be honest, I don't think you need a console to mixdown the vocals. Most of the real work is done in the DAW. If you are recording recording rap vocals I would just get a good interface and nice preamp like an Avalon.
In regards to the two consoles you mentioned, I would say Model 24 if you want to run signal from the channels in your DAW to the mixer and get a hands on feel. From looking up the specs, the Tascam DP32 is not an interface. It connects to your computer like a hard drive or USB flash in order for you to pull the audio files you recorded on it to your computer.
@@stefanringerfwm i appreciate it my brother ...i have presonous sphere and Logic Pro X ...i wanted an outboard mixer ..for me it would be quicker...to mixdown and get a good tight master mix..however i do have mastering plugins as well...yesterday i purchased A Mackie ProFx22v3 ...22 ch. I produce and make beats and am a Holy Hip Hop Artist ...i got some banging beats..i need some banging mixing now ...and i should be good to go...
Would this work on model 16?
What USB CABLE DID YOU BUY/ GET. BECAUSE I ONLY RECEIVED THE AC ADSPTOR.& that’s it. No usb & I don’t want to use anything generic. USB C TO A? C TO C( to pc). I’d really appreciate any advice.
USB 2.0 type B (to Mixer) to type A ( to computer) this is cable my unit shipped with.
Im I missing something how is it controlling the DAW with-out midi .
I believe there was a firmware update for midi sync
if you stopped making music, I would notice, and it would ruin my day and id make sure to ruin everyone else's. syke but seriously keep it up I'm a huge fan bro!
Wil It work with Reasons 9? Thanks.
Seems likely
I am thinking of buying from a 16 channel mixer. My question is that I want to use this herbal on the computer. I want to use the project I have prepared on the computer on this mixer. I want to use this analog mixer instead of a digital mixer. At the same time, I can use it on the 16 channels I am wondering. I can use up to the maximum number of channels in digital environment I wonder about this even if a video about it is super or enough to get an answer plus are you satisfied at the end So you are satisfied with the hall of a person who has been made according to digital
no funny shit I just wanted to hear you speak. I love your music. Peace and Love!!! DROP SOME MUSIC VIDEOS FUCK WHAT THE LABEL SAY, WE NEED TO SEE WHO BEHIND THE SLAPS!!!!!!!!!!
Dude nice demo but I hope that horrendous music was just for demo purposes.
So you’re running your sound of logic into your mixer then hitting it with ea and recording each individual channel back into logic? Or is o coming back as a stero track