Raspberry Pi as an Audio Streamer Guide
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
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00:00 Intro
01:02 About Raspberry Pi itself
05:00 OS for audio streaming
08:28 Controlling your Pi
11:43 Why should you use it?
17:33 Add-ons / HATs
#hifi #audiophile #streaming - Наука та технологія
Just to add this - starting from Raspberry Pi 3 all models include an onboard WiFi adapter (no need to buy dongles). I knew I'd forget some piece of info. :) Personally, I still prefer a good old Ethernet cable, the connection is more stable that way.
great info.... I think you could make a build guide... I recently build a RP3+ and a es9038 DAC hat from Audiophonics. But there is missing so much documentation and questions... it is working now, but still....
@@jungtarcph hi I have connected my rp4 with a digi boom hat . A good ethernet cable with toshlink or coaxial through my dac magic plus . Anything above 44khz I get a whooshing sound and a high pitched buzz when the track has finished .I am using volumio and high res kobuz . Am I missing something . Thanks john 👍
Except when using my tablets or phones away from desk, bedside or reading lounge chair, EVERYTHING in my home uses wired Ethernet.
No lag, no congestion, no signal strength drop….
EVERY area in my house has at least two cable drops (RJ45 keystones), with minimum CAT7 cabling (*).
All cable is run in conduit (**) for ease in repair and future upgrade.
And I have three RPi-4 running as Wi-Fi endpoints to cover weak-signal areas, and as “portable” Wi-Fi (using a 10Ah pack).
* i got freaky lucky one day at a scrapper (scrap-yard). I found seven (7!) 8,000’ reels of Plenum-rated CAT7. Brand-New, never used, never opened… $30 per reel. This was just as the pandemic shut-downs had started, the owner was anxious to draw down his inventory. Yeah, freak luck.
** i often stop at commercial or industrial construction sites to ask the foreman if i can scrounge the scrap-pile before it is piled into dumpster (I’ve never met a foreman who will let you climb INTO the dumpster.. it’s important to get the stuff while it’s still on the exposed scrap-pile).
This is where i get my conduit (among other things). Two to five foot long Schedule-80 stuff is common as dirt.
Thanks. If I use Pi 4 to stream Tidal can I stream mqa? Can mqa be output bitstream to a mqa dongle dac such as tempotec mhd?
@@leonardopapantoniou4227 I'm not sure about every Pi OS out there, but RoPieeeXL that I'm using can pass-trough MQA info to the DAC. It's just that DAC needs to be capable of unfolding it (so-called hardware MQA support) cause no Pi OS does it through software (only the official Tidal app can do that).
You did one of the best jobs explaining this on the net
Also,, do you find that today drains your mobile devices faster than Spotify?
@@thomasedward2231 Thanks! I suppose "today" should be "Tidal" :) I never compared the consumption of those two, but as every app is different and Tidal uses higher bitrates, it seems very logical that it could be consuming a bit more power.
I agree
He really is great Thomas. His review of the Zen DAC covered vital info that others missed.
Knows what he's talking about and modest too.......puts some others to shame.
I've been playing with this idea for a year now. And you finally helped me put it all together. Getting ready to get one and put it in my system.
most thorough tutorial in this topic i have seen so far. thank you for the great content! you have very careful select of topics that hits all the points for a pi beginner. love it!
This was one of the best videos I've seen regarding basic audio setup on a Raspberry Pi. Thanks very much for doing this. It was really helpful.
Just want to say that this is the best video I've found on youtube on this subject. Well done
Fantastic. It’s the first really simplified explanation I’ve gotten to yet, Thank you for making it easier for me to make this step. In the future, more on this topic would be appropriated!
I just came back to this video to say thank you very much for the advice on the RPi for an audio streamer. First i was skeptical, but i just got mine, set it up (pretty easily as you said) and Boom!! Man, ir really improved my system. Very grateful!!
I tried to give you two thumbs up, but YT wouldn't allow it! Seriously, this is exactly what I was looking for as I'm just starting to experiment with dedicated audio streaming. Thank you! Other topics I'd like to see (if you have not covered them already) are working with RS Pi OS images, and comparisons of various audio players for these OS' (especially their UI).
Very informative video. Exactly what I was looking for as I am interested in audio streaming at hifi quality but not wanting to spend a small fortune. What also interests me about this format is that it is continually upgradable and therefore future proof.
Post more please 🙏
Thanks, very clear and informative. Easily the best I have seen on Raspberry Pi for Hifi 👌
I use a Pi4 with Allo Digione running Ubuntu and Audacious>Topping E30 Dac>Tisbury Passive PreAmp for attenuation>Teac A-H500i>Klipsch R-51M and BK Double Gem Sub. The Digione, Tisbury Pre, Teac Amp, Klipsch speakers and BK Sub were all second hand/used/refurbished because I am poor and I have to say, it sounds fantastic. I'm saying all this because it only sounded great until I added the Allo Digione, then it really shined. Interesting video, thank you.
EDIT : I forgot to add, you really do a good job, this is one of the better videos on this subject. High end audio doesn't have to be very expensive today, you have helped me along my journey, thanks.
Really well done video. Educated me on this! Thank you!
This is so far the best review and general cover of Raspberry Pi streamer.I have seen all youtube reviews and simply,you are the best,honest reviewer.
If I saw your review 2 weeks ago I would make myself a Berry streamer but I went with a suggestion from Darko review and bought Xiaomi mi box s. It is 65€ streamer, packs Google chromecast, can be operated by phone and has optical output so I bought a nice Supra,Swedish brand optical cable and the sound is pretty amazing compared to my previous sources, iMac and Dell laptop. So, this berry idea can be even better.
Regards from finland .
I knew some of this information already but your thorough explanations filled in a number of blanks for me. Thank you!
Glad to hear that. Tomorrow's video is again about Pi, actually about Allo DigiOne HAT.
@@iiWiReviews I'll be on the lookout for it. Keep up the great work. Really enjoying your content.
Enjoyed this video enough to decide to have a go at assembling pi + dac. Thank you.
very clear - thanks. wish this was around months ago.
Excellent video explaining the pi streamer, I have watched them all. I have ordered a Rasberry Pi 3B and a digital HAT. I am very anxious to set this up.
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
Great video, You helped me understand how Pi can be used.
All Your rewievs are great. Lot of useful information.
I’m going to look for more of your videos, this one was very helpful for a newbie like me. A buddy introduced me to an older pie about 2 yrs ago and he did the complete install. I should have watched him because now I am trying to upgrade to the raspberry pie 4.
great vid, please do another explaining all of the DAC and power supply upgrades. subscribed :)
Excellent. Great explanation of the Pi as a streamer with HAT. I use a very similar setup. MoOde software and Rigelian to control on the iPad and iPhone. Excellent sound quality. Please go into more on this in the future.
Hi good review. I have done this. Using pi4 is big improvement- also used Flirc case which acts as heat sink - its excellent. I used Volumio, great app that integrates with Qobuz. Also I power my pi4 with a power bank- this is also an improvement. So with my dac being the tr-amp the whole thing is powered with batteries! Sounds great
Yes, using a power bank helps a great deal to reduce him/noise.
So informative and interesting! Thanks a lot
Excellent
Continue on, doing an nice job with the explanations!
Excellent video!! thank you very much! You sume up a complex topic with easy and "practical" words. I will give the Raspberry Pi a try 😎
Very nice review and introduction. Thank you so much !
I did all that myself, and get no signal to the DAC. Using RPi 4 and Volumio by USB -> DAC.
DAC, via a Anthem STR integrated says no signal. I see “STR USB hi res” as a choice in sources, so unit sees it, but no music. Using Qobuz as music source.
I think the issue is in the configs someplace I’m missing, but I don’t know what half of the configs actually do!
Any help/ideas/threads, etc? How to configure Volumio for USB?
thanks for crisp and clear video🙏
For sure a very good explanation. No rambling, just to the point with relevant info. Only problem is the worldwide shortage of chips. The expansion board is 120Euro? It happens.
No way...Yesterday I jotted down in my notes: "read up on the whole raspberry pi thing" ^^
Well, thx I guess :D
Great end-to-end starter guide... very useful and informative. Maybe for the next video guide, how about going through how to connect streaming services (i.e. Tidal, Amazon Music, Spotify, etc.) on your RoPieee OS install, and then how to control it via your MConnect app on your phone to stream the music on your HiFi stereo set-up? Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the great video.Atm I’m streaming from MacBook and I will give this a go as my next project.Thank you.
Great video, thanks man.
Great video. Well done!
Thanks for the informative video. I got a RPI4 and I'm running RopieeeXL. I tried Volumio but I found it unstable and too heavy for my needs. I'm currently using a Topping E30 with good results. I prefer USB to Spidif and was going for a small form Factor so not hats for me for now
bravo legendo, baš sam hteo da se edukujem na ovu temu
Thanks for the guide. Well done.
I am wanting to stream Amazon HD, I am of the understanding that on my windows laptop or my Mac Mini I need to install Audirvana or J Rivers media center to bypass my computers built in and inadequate DACs to output cleanly to an external DAC of better quality. Using a rasberry PI 4 and Allo Digi Dac would it be necessary to use the J Rivers or Audirvana? I understand that the mentioned software also works as media catalogs for managing files that are local, but I don't have a lot of those
Great video. I did have a question about Apple music and streaming via airplay. Would I need to do anything special besides the recommended steps you suggested?
Fantastic video, well presented. Have you done os systems like Emby setup for new users?
Great video, thanks. I would like to know the comparison between digital coax output and usb output in sound quality. I've seen that usb usually is better and I2s output could also be better than usb. I wonder how we can use this two connections on the RPi
Wow. Definitely need to continue videos on this topic.Does any of the dac hats use Burr Brown chips like from IFI ?
Hello, I have the 8gb raspberry 4 with a hifi dac hat -AK4118 Raspberry Pi IIS DAC-, as a system it has a mode audio player -volumio does not recognize 2gb disks-, with a 15.1-inch touch screen, and access to the system also via the web. Everything connected to another dac and from there to the amplifier. Very happy with the result.
Can you use hdmi to pass the digital audio to a dac? Specifically, I'm interested in spatial audio, such as atmos, streaming from Tidal. Thanks!
Ok great. So the USB 2 is the best output for connecting to an external DAC. Is there a Hat that can provide an even better output? I don't want a DAC in the raspberry pi system, just improved output.
I'm not really sure about why some outputs are better than others so if you have a video explaining that or can recommend one, that would be great.
I'm planning to connect the pi to a denifrips Aries 2 and then to a sugden a21. Is the pi unbalanced in a system like that? If so do you have an alternative recommendation?
If you can't get round to replying, no worries, I will find the answers to these things, I'm just wondering what your perspective might be.
Hello! Great review! Tell me, is there a good external DAC, does it make sense to use a linear power supply for a raspberry streamer with a hi-fi coax and toslink digital output board only?
Great video - thanks!
I'm a lucky owner of the Topping D10s which I think would be a good candidate paired with a Pi 4. That combo would give me the option of an excellent DAC but also S/PDIF conversion to feed into something else.
What are your thoughts on that?
Thanks! Sounds like a very good combo to me.
Amazing! I was just about to get a mini pc with a touch screen but this solution is much much cleaner!!
Question, would the Pi 4 plus the digione improve a better mid market DAC like Topping 90 or a Danefrips Aris 2. If they do improve how much or are these types of streamers best for lower cost Dac?
As a reaction, I had a lot and LOT of issues with annoying Bluesound node 2, already had two dacs refusing to connect coax wise, until I put a ifi spdif purifier 2 between it to reclock the signal, how does this combination with raspberry pi compare to the (instable) ifi-stream? sound quality wise
Absolutely fantastic video.
Great information , , and well explained thanks
Excellent vid.
Another great and very helpful video. Thank you very much.
I'd love more video's about this topic. For streaming Tidal, I just hook up my LGV30 phone to my amplifier through 3,5 mm to RCA for streaming. I would love to experiment with a streaming solution like this, purely for the convenience of remote control but higher quality than bluetooth. Since Chromecast audio is gone, branded streamers are too expensive. The long term support for branded apps is also a concern.
As my amplifier does not have USB input, I would need an extra (affordable) DAC. If you make more video's about this topic, I would love to hear your thoughts about raspberry + DAC combo's, specifically from the point of view of "convenient living room streaming" set-ups. This affordable streaming solution becomes less affordable if there is a need to add a €200 DAC, or less convenient if there is the need to juggle with an extra remote of a DAC that doesn't power on automatically etc.
Keep up the good work!
Once I've booted the pi for the very first time with the OS image stored in the microSD card, can I remove the card or must the card be there whenever pi is used for streaming? Thanks.
Could i connect a pi to a MF Clic streamer for services such as Spotify and Airplay etc, as the clic doesn't have these built in. Thanks
...more of this things, please...
Really good video. thanks
I have just bought pi4. Can I use Pi4 to listen to dsd files in a 5.1 way? Connected to a Yamaha htr 3065 receiver and 5.1 setup of dali speakers
Great video! I was wondering if you don’t consider using Kodi as a music streamer as it can also be used for movies. Thanks
Hi, congrats for this Review. What's the point of having a PC with solid state hard drive? Is it More robust?
Thank you very well explained and presented
Is there anything to know about using two of these on the same network for two systems in two different rooms?
Found your videos a few weeks ago and still watching everything. Great stuff!!
As an absolute noob I started with a Pi4, Volumio, Topping D10s and the internal DAC from an integrated Denon Amp.
Sounds so good, I never expected it for this price. Excellent, but without you I never only heard from this way.
One short question: Do you, or every other experienced reader, recommend a power switch? Or can it stay "on fire"?
Greetings from Düsseldorf, Achim.
Thanks! I recommend leaving it ON all the time. Power switch can sometimes corrupt OS on your SD card.
Well job! but how can I play any songs saved into a folder? continuos or randomly
Nice video and topic. Does this runs on power bank 5v. ?
Hi! I am using Pi4 8gb with topping E30. It works well reading External hard disk but I can't play music inside my dap Fiio m6 connected to the Pi. How can I di this? Must I buy an micro SD adapter? In order to do that I should extract the card from the Dap every Time.
Also, just to listen to Tidal master with mqa, Volumio Is not a core decoder so I need a full decoder isn,'it? Is a renderer good enough?
Great stuff, thanks your video was just what I needed, in what is a virtual minefield of information and boards and manufacturers producing one board after another, each said to be better than the last.
The whole thing looses people as they do not have basic information starting from the ground up.
Now ready to start looking at power and hats.
Hi, pardon if I have a stoopid question. Will this digione hat passthrough music files\of DSD quality. 32bit/384khz?
No it won't. SPDIF tops at 24/192 with most DACs. Higher than that, USB is only solution.
I would like to hear your thoughts on the Digione.
hi, thanks for the video. I have the Allo DigiOne Sig running. Do you think a Anker Power bank is better for the Clean Audio Board than a IFI LowNoise PowerSupply? Thanks..
Hi! I never tried using power banks since it's impractical for my kind of use (streamer is running 24/7), so I never compared them.
Does it recognise the drivers of a xonar usb soundcard to use as interface for a high quality audio scorce so that i can play my wav format mixes that i make myself?
I don't know the answer to that one. Basically all RPi systems are based on Linux kernel and use USB audio protocol that doesn't need drivers. So 99% of all USB DACs that I ever tried worked without any problem. I remember only one noname device not being recognised by the RPi.
I know I’m a little late but I just watched this video...excellent job! I’m glad you added the note about a wireless transceiver because I have no way to run cat 5/6 cable from where my modem/router is to my hifi. Everything in my place is WiFi connected.
Con un elemento como este, enchufado a la corriente lo mas cercano a los altavoces de tu zona musical, tendras para conectar el Raspberry-pi con cable de potencia y el R-J45, emparejandolo con tu router o wifi lejano.........TP-Link TL-WA860RE - Repetidor de red Wifi extensor amplificador de cobertura(Puerto Ethernet, 10/100 mbps, con enchufe, 300 Mbps, 2 antenas)..👀👍....
@@spcverd6654 Lo siento, mi espanol es muy malo. Yo comprendo WiFi extensor 😂.
can i upload somehow my flac files to micro sd card where RoPieeeXL is installed and play from there?
Currently using Pi 3b HDMI port to Marantz AV receiver. Do you think is it worth it to get Pi hat and external DAC..
Can I use khadas board DAC to Raspberry Pi? (4)?
Cool intoduction. I'm using a Pi4 with raspberry pi os and hifiberry-dac2hd myself as a minidlna-mediaserver and dlna-renderer with upmpdcli/mpd and BubbleUPnP as Android-Controlpoint. My only problem is streaming tidal from the web, because BubbleUPnP still routes it through the smartphone but my WLAN is somewhat unstable. I've tried hard to find a solution to stream it directly through the pi, but my only working solution so far is to ssh into the pi to start the tidal-webplayer. You mentioned streaming from the web to the pi in your video and I'd love to hear what software is working for you concerning this purpose.
does using more RAM on the Raspberry Pi affect the response of the streamer that we make, especially if we switch applications from Spotify, for example to Tidal, then to other applications, if RAM is small (1GB) is there a possibility it hangs? thank you
Can you provide schematic as to where the power line of the dac should be installed on the raspberry ????
Hi.
I would like to use the pi as a bridge in state of my notebook..
Going from my main pc as the source for Tidal and my music files
via powerline/powerlan(over the powernet in my flat)
to my smsl m-300 mkII dac which is located round 10 meters away in another room.
I am not realy sure if this works and what i also need for this.
I have orderd the pi 4 board with 8gb, nicro sd card, power supply, case.
Not sure about the os because some say volumio is not good.
Did i need to know anything about upnp or dlna?
Thats all new for me.
Thanks.
As far as I know, Tidal app cannot cast to Pi. I know that Roon app can but it costs money. If you're willing to use the phone instead of PC than there are some free/cheap apps that can cast Tidal stream to Pi (mconnect and Bubble UPnP). I'm using phone with mconnect personally for Tidal streaming.
can I stream from OneDrive in volumio? I do it a lot with bubbleupnp through foobar on a windows desktop, which I would like to replace by a raspberry pi. moreover, if yes, do you know if its stable? good video, btw. the best out there on basics. thanks!
With the iOS app, can I use to connect to the server and stream from say a friend’s house?
I have just received oficial pi 4 combo with its propietary case AND on the other hand am audioquest digital USB filter....Is it necessary to add those accesories you say? I am planning to connect pi 4 to topping E30
No it's not. Pi 4 sounds very decent on its USB out.
thanks for the nice video!
Does anyone know the best way to use PLEX with this setup?
My music is on an external HD. I have PLEX on a few computers and phones. I have amps and speakers in a few rooms. The easiest implementation I have at the moment is to have the HD connected to an always on laptop that has my main PLEX server. I usually just play PLEX through my phone by plugging it in by RCA cable to the amp in whatever room I'm in. I can also use bluetooth, but the quality is even further diminished of course.
Ideally, I'd like to have a sonos/roon-like situation where I could just control everything from my phone with the PLEX app and hear the same music in every room. The only potential (low cost) solution I've seen is Arylic, but not sure about them - for a number of reasons. Of course I can't afford Roon and my current old HiFi setups are good enough quality-wise already.
I guess that's two different questions, but any help coming up with a better set up would be appreciated. I'm not married to keeping PLEX, but it is what I use at the moment. I also can't export playlists from PLEX (and PLEXamp) and it has poor to no artist and album info (and all of the other things that Roon is better at).
May I ask is RoPieee still your choice. I was using volumio but switched to moode, I have found moode to sound better. how I dont know how im using the same USB DAC with the same Pi just different software. Moode seems more detailed. So im investigating RoPieee to see how that sounds.
I personally would like to see more videos about raspberry pi.
Simple language - easy to understand......have a question - as the video doesnt clarify "output" options availble for high quality 2 Ch audio output ..... for me to connect the Pi3 b+ to an external DAC - does it have a USB A output ? If not - what's the best option ?
Pi 3 B+ does have USB out so you can connect it to the USB input on your DAC directly...
Fantastic video, thanks! 😊
What would be the advantage of using something like this versus a Chromecast Audio? Gapless? WiFi options? Sound quality?
Many thanks!
In a nutshell, it's more versatile and adaptable to different needs. Those may be needing an USB output or wanting to add some of these audiophile HATs which do elevate sound quality above Chromecast or bare Raspberry Pi. But if you're happy with Chromecast's features, it's perfectly fine and fuss-free choice.
@@iiWiReviews thanks for the info!
you've covered audiophile quality well here. Do you have any videos on the latency that the RPi adds to the original stream?
Do you know how to play SACDs recorded as .iso files with Volumio?
Very understandable presentation. I have spent a ton of time on UA-cam trying to get a overall picture of a workable streaming Pi setup and you have done a fine job getting just the facts across. Nice work.
Assuming I go from the Pi4 USB into a standalone D/A, will my quality be as good as if I was using a Pi with a D/A hat? With Pi 4 I believe that the USB is of higher quality and I won't need any HAT and can go directly to an external A/D for lossless streaming of high quality. Comments?
Thanks! I haven't tried Pi 4 personally but it's generally accepted that its USB output is superior to that of 3B+ while hat such as DigiOne is superior to Pi 4's USB no matter what version it is mounted on. That said I feel Pi 4 and its USBs are a really good place to start. If you ever feel the need, you can add some hat later on.
See this ua-cam.com/video/cjqEPyMr1zI/v-deo.html for Han's take on which pi version is better for audio. Skip to 3:25 and watch until 5:00
Hi, the first Time I installed Volumio was with ethernet cable but later I think it uses WiFi. Can I ask Volumio to continue using the cable instead? How?
I stream music from my sony tv to the DAC using optical fiber cable,anyone can tell me if there is a difference audio quality between the two methods (comparing to raspberry pi), I must say i hear excellent quality from my sony tv.
It’s a bit of an Off Topic but I would really appreciate if u could give me some advice. I’m looking for and headphone amp (just amp, no dac) with LINE OUT, so that the volume knob doesn’t control the output volume from the rca. Somthing like the Fiio K5 (not the pro) or topping A30. If anyone could help me I would love it! 💪🏻
There first video on Raspberry Pi that gave me the confidence to pull the trigger on Amazon!
If I use Volumio as OS, can Pi be used for office purposes? Or just for music playing?
I’m running Moode with a Pi2AES hat, streaming music from my NAS to my DAC, and it works excellently.