Good video Ace, appreciate how you take the time to talk about these things in depth and show the numbers, I main airborne and didn't know about the "manual breaking of Sprint" and how it worked with quickdraw so that's really good to know Keep up the good work!!
Good info I rarely used it on SMGs until recently. I noticed some guys melting everyone using SMGS with Quick Draw and combo of grip and extra mags. I switched up and noticed the difference.
Quickdraw is best on the Been because it has a 384 ms ads time which means it will also make the sprint out slower so having quick draw on the bren makes it so your ads doesn't slow down your sprint out time
I think that Quickdraw should be available for scoped weapons; especially sniper riffles... It will help alot to combat with the bad ADS time for some riffles; like PTRS41, SpringField, 3-Line, etc..
Definitely noticed the difference when I was playing public matches with my cousin earlier , one game I ran around with the ppsh QuickDraw grip and had some crazy streaks, following game I played the exact same way but with the stg red dot and grip, I was still able to go positive (just about) but where it was so much slower to react with I was losing a lot of the gun fights that require a fast reaction like against someone pre aiming you or ones where your running and you run into someone and have to try snap on them. Definitely makes a difference
Ben Hawkins OK, but you're talking about two different classes of weapons with different statistics in every regard and you're not considering: who you played with, what they were using/ doing in game, what map, and how you played. You didn't prove anything.
Hey Ace, big fan. For educational purposes and curiosity, I got a titan two to see if it was possible to automate pulling back on analog stick before ADS to get the benefit of QuickDraw as you said. I created a macro and sure enough it’s possible. Here’s what I learned, you have to wait at least 15ms (likely due to frame rounding or controller polling rate) after pulling down on analog stick to ADS, otherwise the trick doesn’t work (you can wait longer but then it cuts into the “time saving” as you mentioned). Point being, depending on the gun class (lmg, ar, smg) a human pulling down on the analog stick waiting more than 15ms but less than “Time Saving” then ADS to get the benefit of QuickDraw is a long shot unfortunately :( Also an FYI as to what is possible in terms of “cheating” out there for those who like to play competitive modes.
Thank-You, Thank-You, Thank-You! I was hoping you would do an updated version after the last patch. This will help me very much. Oh, did I say Thank-You?
I personally only use it on ar, lmg or sg.. just because I’ll be sprinting the whole time with smg. I know I shouldn’t be but i just prefer that playstile
HellHawX Omega In my experience it makes a little diffrence on svt garand and grease gun. Thats it. On all other guns its just a placebo but I see too many people using it.
So it best not to use it on most guns then? Btw is grip still a viable attachment in bo2? Been playing it a little lately and I'm not sure whether it's useful or not
i found a glitch, if you're using the holzpistol variant of the machine pistol and aim down sights your shoulder or something will go inside your screen
Gibraltar is an absolute spawntrapping shitfest - pick something better! Gustav Cannon isnt so bad either. If you are not into sniping its often ez to break out and flank around to dick all the campers in the back! Or just take a LMG like bren or lewis and get up on the cannon and hose everything down, so fun when all the noob snipers keep dieing :)
yeah... It does give more damage through walls (and enemies if they line up) It does NOT give more damage in general, It does not give more headshots. Its best used at LMG where you bullet hose cover, or on snipers if you make a lot of flick shots mostly by instinct, as you often find the enemy get into cover, and you trade the hitmarker to a kill if you have FMJ.
You lose less damage through walls and the damage reduction against scorestreaks is reduced so you can kill them faster. You DO NOT get extra damage or extra multipliers like some kids think. It's not really good except for in Hardcore where you can turn certain 2-3 shot kills through walls into 1-2 shot kills because there you have such low health - 30HP to be exact - and headglitching is more prevalent.
I feel like smgs ads fast enough so that quickdraw is a waste. Also, doesn’t breaking your sprint by pushing back at the stick just take up time in and of itself? Are you really saving any time doing that vs breaking sprint by ads’ng?
mlandau2776 You're saving a lot of time ADSing with QuickDraw on SMGs, and yes, pulling back on your controller to break the sprinting animation helps and it is especially helpful if you're using Gunslinger and break your sprint by hip-firing instead.
I still can’t get used to quick draw on the smgs. I break my sprint too often by adsing. I do use it on the volks though and all of my LMGs. I use a more passive play style with those weapons so I am not sprinting around as much.
Jacob Hartman same man, it just feels weird breaking my sprint and then Aiming. My reaction time was something I thought separated me from the pack in older cods. Not so much on WW2
That is one of the key things that differentiates this cod from other ones. It is much more about being prepared/pre aiming rather than relying on your reaction time. The recent sprint out buffs do help a bit though! It doesn't completely fix it but it does help.
Shit it seems like QuickDraw was more of a placebo than a help for me on rifles good to know it’s pretty much useless so I can take it off most of my rifle classes
What’s the point of this attachment when you have to change your play style for it to work? Also TDM mastery is still unable to be selected, surely I’m not the only one who knows this
So ur telling me that quick draw still doesnt work properly, its just quicker post patch? Well, F that, add Dexterity Basic Training and be done with it
everyone pre aims anyway, nobody rushes. i feel like im always checking to see if im playing against a team with 3 players on it because i cant find anyone because theyre all waiting somewhen already aimed down sites. i miss having fun in cod. black ops 2 i never pre aimed.
i don not understand at 4.00 min with the explanation of cancelling sprint and ADS, englisch is not my mother language. what does it mean and what to do to get the most out of Quick Time?
You're still supposed to get killed for sprinting but if you have a smg and your enemy an ar and both of you need to break sprint then you win the gunfight
Dude me and my mates are wondering if u would consider adding us as friends on ps4 because my mates want snipping matches and others because they want to see how good u really are.
I am searching where to find and how to equip quick draw and im stuck on these videos tryn to find how but they keep talking about how good it is without showing how to equip it first im new you should consider some of the viewers like me are new and not leave small details out
Dustin Moyer Depends on your rate of fire and then how many frames are skipping if you're lagging but, provided that the tick rate is at 60hz, it will usually just be what your rate of fire dictates unlike past CoDs that had a 10hz tick rate.
Brandan Temple back in the days the game was better therefore you didn't need a break down. You can tell the perks work because they did. Nothing to do with his content
SEAN DON Ahem, no. Just because something needs to be researched in-depth doesn't mean the game is bad. This is for the more professional players. Basic stuff is already known (e.g everyone knows quickdraw speeds up your aiming for some situations, but people who aren't playing casually want to know exactly how long it takes to aim).
Depends how u see it - I appreciate someone who keeps up with updated values and has deep knowledge about it to share with others. I mean... Do you even know this channel?
Quickdraw is broken in this game. It should make any gun other than snipers and pmgs preform like how the pistols preform. As of now even after the update it's a campy mess.
*Michael Condrey pointing at his head*
Why use quickdraw when you can just sit in a corner ADS or crouch walk the whole match?
That basically describes the multiplayer in 1 sentence. I mean i like the game, but the way people play is plain ridiculous.
I like ppl who walk around crouching.. makes it easier to catch up to them with my shovel
Crouch walking is too damn slow, even with Infantry Division and Inconspicous. I can barely stand not running 24/7
Even worse is the jumping around stuff imo
Good video Ace, appreciate how you take the time to talk about these things in depth and show the numbers, I main airborne and didn't know about the "manual breaking of Sprint" and how it worked with quickdraw so that's really good to know
Keep up the good work!!
3 years went by and you have only 0 likes? Lemme fix that
Can you talk about scorestreaks
dude I appreciate your break down sciences. some times I'll even just listen to the audio while playing a game myself. keep it up!
Super helpful in building my classes. Thanks Ace!
5:05 - Feels more like the ADS time for the BREN is 384 seconds!
Why aren’t you at 1 million yet ? Great video bro ✌🏽
Good info I rarely used it on SMGs until recently. I noticed some guys melting everyone using SMGS with Quick Draw and combo of grip and extra mags. I switched up and noticed the difference.
Quickdraw is best on the Been because it has a 384 ms ads time which means it will also make the sprint out slower so having quick draw on the bren makes it so your ads doesn't slow down your sprint out time
I like how you actually use cover
I think that Quickdraw should be available for scoped weapons; especially sniper riffles... It will help alot to combat with the bad ADS time for some riffles; like PTRS41, SpringField, 3-Line, etc..
Your Channel is just scientific and informative. Love it
Definitely noticed the difference when I was playing public matches with my cousin earlier , one game I ran around with the ppsh QuickDraw grip and had some crazy streaks, following game I played the exact same way but with the stg red dot and grip, I was still able to go positive (just about) but where it was so much slower to react with I was losing a lot of the gun fights that require a fast reaction like against someone pre aiming you or ones where your running and you run into someone and have to try snap on them. Definitely makes a difference
Ben Hawkins OK, but you're talking about two different classes of weapons with different statistics in every regard and you're not considering: who you played with, what they were using/ doing in game, what map, and how you played. You didn't prove anything.
Hey X, can you please do an updated grip video to see if it's viable for any guns?
i like the luftdrilling shutdun .. one of the best feeling when you get 2 long shot kills with 2 shells
Quickdraw is this games Grip from bo2
perkyoranges 2 but grip also doesn't work in ww2
Waiting for this video forever thanks Ace your the best
Impressive Ace,awesome video as always
Youre the best,bro.thanx for all the help with weapons👍i just found you and subscribed during this games early life.keep up the good work
Hey Ace, big fan. For educational purposes and curiosity, I got a titan two to see if it was possible to automate pulling back on analog stick before ADS to get the benefit of QuickDraw as you said. I created a macro and sure enough it’s possible. Here’s what I learned, you have to wait at least 15ms (likely due to frame rounding or controller polling rate) after pulling down on analog stick to ADS, otherwise the trick doesn’t work (you can wait longer but then it cuts into the “time saving” as you mentioned). Point being, depending on the gun class (lmg, ar, smg) a human pulling down on the analog stick waiting more than 15ms but less than “Time Saving” then ADS to get the benefit of QuickDraw is a long shot unfortunately :(
Also an FYI as to what is possible in terms of “cheating” out there for those who like to play competitive modes.
Thank you! I really enjoy your very useful information
Very professional. Keep up the good work
Thank-You, Thank-You, Thank-You! I was hoping you would do an updated version after the last patch. This will help me very much. Oh, did I say Thank-You?
I personally only use it on ar, lmg or sg.. just because I’ll be sprinting the whole time with smg. I know I shouldn’t be but i just prefer that playstile
GPMG was missing from the onscreen visual of the LMG category.
If you're jumping while sprinting do you break your sprint? Or nah?
Another video on the Grip? I notice it helps on the Garand, SVT and BAR, but unsure on the other guns
HellHawX Omega I know the grip is like BO2 all over agin
HellHawX Omega In my experience it makes a little diffrence on svt garand and grease gun. Thats it. On all other guns its just a placebo but I see too many people using it.
So it best not to use it on most guns then? Btw is grip still a viable attachment in bo2? Been playing it a little lately and I'm not sure whether it's useful or not
Why do literally all pro’s use grip then?
Why do literally all pro’s use grip then?
Good video 💪💪 all the explanation are amazing 👏👏👏 with the weapon that you used in the game . What are your speed of vertical look ?
great video ace!
Please do this for high caliber (and others). Appreciate the videos!
he covers what high cal does for the gun in his gun guides
Ameer Rehman I've watched them but it's nice to have it all in one video for each gun
Great vid Ace!!!
Great video - thanks for the help
The real question Ace, how many bullets do you shoot per frame based on RPM?
I use QuickDraw on half the SMG's, the Luftwaffe, all Rifles and all LMGs
Hey Ace is quickdraw still useful tho? After these updates?
I do good playing without quick draw cuz I have a fast trigger finger and so I prefer to other attachments that can help me out
Don't you think that supply drops have been buffed?
I use it on every class. There aren't any things more useful than getting your shots on your target faster.
I can’t tell whether it’s faster to sprint or use a bayonet charge to get somewhere like to an objective. Can you test out what is faster?
Can you do a how to quickscope tutorial on ww2 please? :)
What size Monitor do you use and recommendations? Mahalo 😎🤙
It all depends on your reaction
Did the new april patch change the quickdraw function?
i found a glitch, if you're using the holzpistol variant of the machine pistol and aim down sights your shoulder or something will go inside your screen
I always skip a map called Gustav Canon, my favourite map I’m still not too sure. I’m thinking Flak Tower or maybe even Gibraltar
Always leave lobbies that vote uss Texas. I can't stand that map
Gustav is my favorite. Own the top with an STG 44, taking out everyone below.
Luke _ interesting as I do not mind USS Texas, what class do you normally use bro?
Bill The Butcher seeing as everyone just sits on a head glitch on the map I leave almost instantly.
Gibraltar is an absolute spawntrapping shitfest - pick something better!
Gustav Cannon isnt so bad either. If you are not into sniping its often ez to break out and flank around to dick all the campers in the back! Or just take a LMG like bren or lewis and get up on the cannon and hose everything down, so fun when all the noob snipers keep dieing :)
I don’t use quick draw on anything and i don’t feel like i ever have a problem snapping on a target
Can you do a video on fmg attachment and its benefits
stronger damage through walls. done
yeah...
It does give more damage through walls (and enemies if they line up)
It does NOT give more damage in general, It does not give more headshots.
Its best used at LMG where you bullet hose cover, or on snipers if you make a lot of flick shots mostly by instinct, as you often find the enemy get into cover, and you trade the hitmarker to a kill if you have FMJ.
You lose less damage through walls and the damage reduction against scorestreaks is reduced so you can kill them faster. You DO NOT get extra damage or extra multipliers like some kids think.
It's not really good except for in Hardcore where you can turn certain 2-3 shot kills through walls into 1-2 shot kills because there you have such low health - 30HP to be exact - and headglitching is more prevalent.
#9 yes I know that however I find some guns have good wall penetration anyway i was just curious about the true benefits on certain weapons
Marra 101 best used on lmgs, snipers, and rifles in that order
All others have little penetration anyways so not worth it
Ace, if you break your sprint by firing then ADS, will QuickDraw work then?
You have to consider connection , some people may be running under 60fps
Connection has no impact on framerate
Updated grip video please!!!!!
I feel like smgs ads fast enough so that quickdraw is a waste. Also, doesn’t breaking your sprint by pushing back at the stick just take up time in and of itself? Are you really saving any time doing that vs breaking sprint by ads’ng?
mlandau2776 You're saving a lot of time ADSing with QuickDraw on SMGs, and yes, pulling back on your controller to break the sprinting animation helps and it is especially helpful if you're using Gunslinger and break your sprint by hip-firing instead.
Ace did they really nerf the fire rate on the mp 40? Why ppsh was and still is the best smg...
I never use Quickdraw or Grip and i am doing just fine.
Ace u forgot the gpmg in your lmg ads time chart
Ace- does this video still apply since the last update? Should I still run quickdraw on my airborne ppsh class? y or n
I still can’t get used to quick draw on the smgs. I break my sprint too often by adsing. I do use it on the volks though and all of my LMGs. I use a more passive play style with those weapons so I am not sprinting around as much.
Jacob Hartman same man, it just feels weird breaking my sprint and then Aiming. My reaction time was something I thought separated me from the pack in older cods. Not so much on WW2
That is one of the key things that differentiates this cod from other ones. It is much more about being prepared/pre aiming rather than relying on your reaction time. The recent sprint out buffs do help a bit though! It doesn't completely fix it but it does help.
Jacob Hartman agreed. The buff did help a little but still not where I’d like for it to be but hey, it is what it is. Just gotta adapt to the system
True. I'm ok with it where it is now, but in the next cod I am hoping it is faster.
I only use quickdraw on the volk and lmgs
I always rush "like a headless chicken". :) I can't stay in one position. Do you suggest to use quickdraw on my smgs?
godzsy yes
no, you play bo3 or iw so you can rush
cuz I break my sprint, and than the quickdraw not working, right?
so is sprint out time affect the rifles too?
Shit it seems like QuickDraw was more of a placebo than a help for me on rifles good to know it’s pretty much useless so I can take it off most of my rifle classes
Does a jumpshot and dropshot count as breaking your sprint, this is mainly a question for smgs cause I'm an smg heavy rusher.
Andres Correa not unless u completely stop 1st so no
What’s the point of this attachment when you have to change your play style for it to work? Also TDM mastery is still unable to be selected, surely I’m not the only one who knows this
So ur telling me that quick draw still doesnt work properly, its just quicker post patch? Well, F that, add Dexterity Basic Training and be done with it
Just use quick draw and grip on everything
everyone pre aims anyway, nobody rushes. i feel like im always checking to see if im playing against a team with 3 players on it because i cant find anyone because theyre all waiting somewhen already aimed down sites. i miss having fun in cod. black ops 2 i never pre aimed.
I basically use it when I unlock it lol.
I always aim down sights with my Combat Shotgun. (stupid, inconsistent gun) Doesn't that increase range? Am I doing it wrong? Lol
i don not understand at 4.00 min with the explanation of cancelling sprint and ADS, englisch is not my mother language. what does it mean and what to do to get the most out of Quick Time?
Where is the gpmg on the LMG analysis!
LunarTemplar 101 They're all the same but at the same time: don't use it. It's garbage. Use the MG-15 instead.
Gun is a beast for me I run extended mag FMJ 4x optic infantry division and hustle it's a killing machine.
gpmg is the mg15 with slightly more accuracy but shitty reload time and shorter magazine.
You never mentioned the rifle AS-44???? Obviously, it's the one that is unlocked after commando prestige 1. Why not?
It didn’t exist at the time of this video
I’m going skiing today and tomorrow and I’m breaking a 35 day streak.... I know I have no life.....😭
Did they really buffed the Sprint out time I really don't see a difference I still get melted when I'm sprinting 😧
H3llBoY 85 They did but practice breaking your sprint by pulling back on your controller instead of ADSing.
You're still supposed to get killed for sprinting but if you have a smg and your enemy an ar and both of you need to break sprint then you win the gunfight
Dude me and my mates are wondering if u would consider adding us as friends on ps4 because my mates want snipping matches and others because they want to see how good u really are.
How does 83.3ms round up to 84ms?
Ace make a video about how the PC community was deceived yesterday.... Cant buy the DLC 1 separately !!!!
Does quickdraw help the spritout time or regular general ads time???? Please help
Only aim down sight time, it has no impact at all on sprintout time
TheXclusiveAce thanks man. Youre better than drift0r
Why ppl keep asking for the gmp we get it ok it wasn’t up there but he clearly said he would run It on any lmg
What 2 attachments to use for mp-40? Only just started using it..any tips
Roberto Esquivel Cabrera free for all
lol lol! A pretty reliable 2 is QuickDraw and grip. Most really high level players run QuickDraw and grip on any subs. Up to you though man!
5:00 You forgot the GPMG!
They should just make it work like it always used to.
Forgot the gpmg
Anyone knows where can I find the update news? I just have a 17.1G update on the PC end, and I cannot find any news on steam or their official site.
Trip mines!!! Pleaseeee
Never, it's not really a big deal.
I am searching where to find and how to equip quick draw and im stuck on these videos tryn to find how but they keep talking about how good it is without showing how to equip it first im new you should consider some of the viewers like me are new and not leave small details out
What about the GPMG?
Anton Nicholls I use extended mag FMJ 4x optic infantry division hustle it's a killing machine I think it got a buff last patch.
ACE MY QUESTION HOW MANY BULLETS ARE FIRED IN A SINGLE FRAME
Dustin Moyer Depends on your rate of fire and then how many frames are skipping if you're lagging but, provided that the tick rate is at 60hz, it will usually just be what your rate of fire dictates unlike past CoDs that had a 10hz tick rate.
Worst maps, carantin, gustav cannon and Ardennes forest
The sh!t is useless. Back in the days you could tell if your using it without a breakdown
Your logic makes no sense, Ace gives us hard data on the speeds and such of the weapons; if anything this is even more useful than 'back in the days'.
Brandan Temple back in the days the game was better therefore you didn't need a break down. You can tell the perks work because they did. Nothing to do with his content
Brandan Temple quick draw is useless there's some logic for you
SEAN DON Ahem, no. Just because something needs to be researched in-depth doesn't mean the game is bad. This is for the more professional players. Basic stuff is already known (e.g everyone knows quickdraw speeds up your aiming for some situations, but people who aren't playing casually want to know exactly how long it takes to aim).
Dude Lmao Casuals don't need to watch a video because you can tell it doesn't do jack shit aside from SMG's. You take this shit way too seriously lmao
Fuck this break ya Sprint shit
I don’t play ww2 anymore but I still watch your videos on it
Grip video
i am playing 90 fps with 144hz monitor
Already 3 breakdown of quickdraw that attachment is cosing you some trouble
Hale Thunder seems that that spelling is giving you some trouble
Depends how u see it - I appreciate someone who keeps up with updated values and has deep knowledge about it to share with others. I mean... Do you even know this channel?
4:48 No GPMG?
I thought they fixed QuickDraw
Alert Crashed They changed the sprint out times. QuickDraw wasn't touched.
GPMG?
5:00 GPMG????
Whats that spawn at 4.17
Not a spawn, got flanked somehow
Quickdraw is broken in this game. It should make any gun other than snipers and pmgs preform like how the pistols preform. As of now even after the update it's a campy mess.
Go play another game. BO2 is still fun.