There's a Green lantern story very similar to this. He lands on the planet with his ring almost out of power and he starts leaving messages for all his loved ones and the Justice League only to realize that he's literally a mile outside of Vegas.
My understand is that the psych evaluation of NASA is so good that there's not even a chance for inner crew conflict. Saying that, I kinda want Chuck's take on Bay's Armageddon.
There are times when I mentally run through the scenario of showing actual NASA footage at a Worldcon of the 50s or early 60s, alongside The Martian and From the Earth to the Moon. And for kicks, asking them to point to which one is real.
Oh my god, I was wrong. It was Earth all along. You finally made a monkey, yes you finally made a monkey, yes you finally made a monkey out of meeeeee!
"The scrub brush on this asteroid is fascinatingly similar to earth's! And just listen to those space coyotes!" They spot a bearded lizard, so get down on their bellies, "We come in peace. Please take us to your leader."
I'd give a pass to the astronauts on not knowing they're on earth. "The Lonely" and "Elegy" also had habitable asteroids, too. It wasn't TZ's best attempt, but I thought the twist was a nice one in the sense that it meant re-evaluating a lot of what the viewer had already seen..
On a video I watched just 2 days ago, THIS was the episode several people thought had the best twist. I always liked this episode, but I didn't think it had the best twist.
@GOJIRASMASH In my personal opinion, the best twist is in the Episode, "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up?" I fully admit, that is by no means definitive. If you don't mind, what episode would you say has the best twist?
@bradwolf07 "A Nice Place to Visit" is my personal favorite. "Eye of the Beholder" is another one I like. Now I want to go on a Twilight Zone binge. It has been a while.
@@GOJIRASMASH I completely understand. Seeing this review had me wanting to binge some Twilight Zone myself. And personally, my favorite episode is another one SF Debris has covered...The Obsolete Man.
This must have been a harrowing shoot.. all that running around on baking-hot rocks.. they were really climbing, they could have fallen at any point. and yeah it should have been obvious they A) weren't in space long enough to hit an asteroid and B) any asteroid with gravity this high would have already crashed into Earth if you could get to it that quickly.
I object...the concern for his life, even in regards to where they are is very real. Heck, worse at this time than in the modern era, as people still die of dehydration and starvation in the areas outside the city because they did something stupid and got stranded out there for reasons. Mind, I agree that this commander is the worst while the story tries to say they're competent. This idiot shouldn't be leading a scout troop, let alone people on this kind of mission. There are worse leaders in scifi, I still think the 90s/00s Outer Limits still has some of the best examples of that, but dang this guy would put Psycho Janeway out of the business of being crazy.
The criticism section covers a lot of why I have trouble taking Mouthwashing seriously. It's supposed to be "hard" sci fi horror but it fudges so much for the sake of the story it wants to tell that I can't believe it would ever occur.
@@thundercat_pumyra You're telling the truth, but something tells me you're telling it about the wrong people. I think "The Obsolete Man" is even more relevant. And don't forget, the moral of "Maple Street" wasn't "The threats are fake, so don't panic or turn against anyone." it's... the threats are real, and they're depending on you panicking and turning on each other so they can take over. So turn on the instigators instead. and I think people have been dealt a big meaty lesson about who was right for the last century about a certain belligerent nation that has never stopped plagueing life and safety.
You say that astronauts wouldn't do these things... but they're NOT astronauts. NASA was less than two years old. Project Mercury was only nine months into operation. No human had experienced spaceflight. Judging the episode on the idea that these are "astronauts" is like judging the 1996 Mission Impossible film for the way it depicts internet usage.
Confirmed to be cannon The GM Quel first appeared in one scene near the end of final episode of Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory, with its key frame labelled "C.383". An unused version of the key frame (C.384) depicts the GM Quel equipped with a vulcan pod and having similar front skirt armor design to the Gundam Mk-II. At the time of the OVA's production, it did not even have a name. Detailed information regarding the mobile suit were only created after the production for the OVA concluded. Following the end of 0083's production, Katoki Hajime drew line arts for the GM Quel, which were included as a bonus feature in the Laser Disc release of 0083. These line arts were notably different from the version seen in the OVA, which has no chest sensor, no leg-mounted sensors, and has different designs for its head, shoulders, arms, and knees. Volume 74 of A.O.Z. Re-Boot, released in September, 2022, established that the GM Quel seen at the end of 0083 was the early production type, explaining the discrepancy in design. However, the early production type design shown was somewhat different from the version seen in the OVA. Ironically at one point they planned to draw it more like the MK II with the external Vulcan pod
There's a Green lantern story very similar to this. He lands on the planet with his ring almost out of power and he starts leaving messages for all his loved ones and the Justice League only to realize that he's literally a mile outside of Vegas.
Your reviews always make my day.
Corey: For all me-kind.
My understand is that the psych evaluation of NASA is so good that there's not even a chance for inner crew conflict. Saying that, I kinda want Chuck's take on Bay's Armageddon.
Though, as no astronauts have ever actually been stranded on an alien planet, that's all in theory - it's never been field tested.
There are times when I mentally run through the scenario of showing actual NASA footage at a Worldcon of the 50s or early 60s, alongside The Martian and From the Earth to the Moon. And for kicks, asking them to point to which one is real.
add For All Mankind if you really want to screw with their heads.
Oh my god, I was wrong. It was Earth all along. You finally made a monkey, yes you finally made a monkey, yes you finally made a monkey out of meeeeee!
"The scrub brush on this asteroid is fascinatingly similar to earth's! And just listen to those space coyotes!"
They spot a bearded lizard, so get down on their bellies, "We come in peace. Please take us to your leader."
I have a huge soft spot for the space travel vibes from this era and earlier of scifi.
Weird. I just watched this episode on a whim the other day. Good episode
I'd give a pass to the astronauts on not knowing they're on earth. "The Lonely" and "Elegy" also had habitable asteroids, too. It wasn't TZ's best attempt, but I thought the twist was a nice one in the sense that it meant re-evaluating a lot of what the viewer had already seen..
I didn't realize the Orbiters were capable of carrying 8. All the books i read said 7 seats.
What other TZ episodes are pending?
God this show was so good.
On a video I watched just 2 days ago, THIS was the episode several people thought had the best twist. I always liked this episode, but I didn't think it had the best twist.
Out of curiosity, which episode do you think has the best twist?
@GOJIRASMASH In my personal opinion, the best twist is in the Episode, "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up?" I fully admit, that is by no means definitive. If you don't mind, what episode would you say has the best twist?
@bradwolf07 "A Nice Place to Visit" is my personal favorite. "Eye of the Beholder" is another one I like.
Now I want to go on a Twilight Zone binge. It has been a while.
@@GOJIRASMASH I completely understand. Seeing this review had me wanting to binge some Twilight Zone myself. And personally, my favorite episode is another one SF Debris has covered...The Obsolete Man.
Well that's a downer.
This story is also better suited to lost hikers or a crashed plane of civilians.
You should do Passengers (2016).
Wow, that closing narration, were U channeling Serling himself???
_Oh my God, I was wrong_
_It was Earth, all along_
This must have been a harrowing shoot.. all that running around on baking-hot rocks.. they were really climbing, they could have fallen at any point.
and yeah it should have been obvious they A) weren't in space long enough to hit an asteroid and B) any asteroid with gravity this high would have already crashed into Earth if you could get to it that quickly.
I object...the concern for his life, even in regards to where they are is very real. Heck, worse at this time than in the modern era, as people still die of dehydration and starvation in the areas outside the city because they did something stupid and got stranded out there for reasons.
Mind, I agree that this commander is the worst while the story tries to say they're competent. This idiot shouldn't be leading a scout troop, let alone people on this kind of mission. There are worse leaders in scifi, I still think the 90s/00s Outer Limits still has some of the best examples of that, but dang this guy would put Psycho Janeway out of the business of being crazy.
You say that as if people don't still die of dehydration and starvation today. They're no less stupid, and often more foolish.
The criticism section covers a lot of why I have trouble taking Mouthwashing seriously. It's supposed to be "hard" sci fi horror but it fudges so much for the sake of the story it wants to tell that I can't believe it would ever occur.
the more things change the more I realize people didn't get the lessons the Twilight Zone was teaching the first time around...
"He's Alive" and "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street" are the best examples of this right now.
@@thundercat_pumyra You're telling the truth, but something tells me you're telling it about the wrong people. I think "The Obsolete Man" is even more relevant.
And don't forget, the moral of "Maple Street" wasn't "The threats are fake, so don't panic or turn against anyone." it's... the threats are real, and they're depending on you panicking and turning on each other so they can take over. So turn on the instigators instead. and I think people have been dealt a big meaty lesson about who was right for the last century about a certain belligerent nation that has never stopped plagueing life and safety.
You say that astronauts wouldn't do these things... but they're NOT astronauts. NASA was less than two years old. Project Mercury was only nine months into operation. No human had experienced spaceflight. Judging the episode on the idea that these are "astronauts" is like judging the 1996 Mission Impossible film for the way it depicts internet usage.
But the internet had hit the mainstream three years earlier when AOL, Prodigy, and the like had started to become ISPs.
Confirmed to be cannon
The GM Quel first appeared in one scene near the end of final episode of Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory, with its key frame labelled "C.383". An unused version of the key frame (C.384) depicts the GM Quel equipped with a vulcan pod and having similar front skirt armor design to the Gundam Mk-II. At the time of the OVA's production, it did not even have a name. Detailed information regarding the mobile suit were only created after the production for the OVA concluded. Following the end of 0083's production, Katoki Hajime drew line arts for the GM Quel, which were included as a bonus feature in the Laser Disc release of 0083. These line arts were notably different from the version seen in the OVA, which has no chest sensor, no leg-mounted sensors, and has different designs for its head, shoulders, arms, and knees.
Volume 74 of A.O.Z. Re-Boot, released in September, 2022, established that the GM Quel seen at the end of 0083 was the early production type, explaining the discrepancy in design. However, the early production type design shown was somewhat different from the version seen in the OVA.
Ironically at one point they planned to draw it more like the MK II with the external Vulcan pod
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