Winter Hot Tents Domes vs Cones! Which is Better?
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- Опубліковано 30 гру 2020
- #hottent #winter #survival
In todays video we discuss the pros and cons of Domes (domical) and Teepee or Cones (conical) shaped tents. We demo the Nortent Gamme 6 and Lavvo 6 side by side. We discuss weight, height, volume, durability, heat retention, transportability, versatility and a variety of other dimensions. We also have a general discussion about the benefits of a hot tent for winter comping, bugging out and survival purposes.
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a bug mesh liner is a must have, thanks CP ! HOOAH
I know this is based on modern tech.
In bug out situation id go with canvas for durability. This is why i have a GP small from ww2. For tent stakes i use potato digger chain for pounding in with sledgehammer.
In bug out its easier to blend canvas into the background. Big problem with tent stoves is maintaining the fire.
@@dickburns1749 You make a very compelling argument indeed canvas is a more rugged material which was used A lot in the 1900s for work camps. If weight is not an issue and you're not so concerned about water or you're going to compliment your canvas tent with an additional tarp to prevent water ingress then indeed a canvas tent can be a good idea. However they are a bit more difficult to set up but for a semipermanent shelter they Are certainly more rugged. The only downside of course is when you have to pack up and leave and you run outta gas lol that's a lot the haul on your back
Valid point on gas shortage lol.
If the canvas is trated well with linseat oil (as i believe they did back then) it will handle heavy rain out. In a bug out situation you should have a location picked out with good vantage point. In this situation you would preferably have a small group with you. If the tent needed relocated yo can use the center pole to carry between 2 persons putting about 150lbs per person. Still i do agree with the mor mobile tent for mobility
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The infamous tents that led to being stranded in the snowy forest
I’m homeless in Colorado and you couldn’t have posted this at a better time, with how much snow we’re getting. thanks for everything you do Canadian Prepper 🙏 you save more lives out here than you think
Hope things level out for you soon there, Jonathan
Sending some Scottish warmth and love to you Jonathan. You have a great last name 😉 hope you're doing ok xox
Whats your Instagram??? Lets make you famous and get you some help . Fuck that shit i wanna help
Thanks for the support everyone and appreciate the kind words 🙏❤️ I’m actually fairing quite well considering how unprepared I was for this and I’m definitely taking bugout/off-grid advice from anyone willing to share. It’s actually kinda fun out here tho, feels like I’m doing Russian spetnaz training in extreme cold temperatures or something lol but I’m also looking for work so I should be out of the shit soon. God bless you all and hope you guys do okay thru the winter as well 💪💪💪
@@trollmcclure1884 stoves prices range from 200$to 300$
I hope everyone appreciates the costs Nate incurred to bring us this video. Not to mention the damage to his truck.
youtube money is no joke !
That was his 'What not to do,comedy of errors' video.
Ah, this was the review he was talking about. Feels kinda odd knowing what´s gonna happen before it does, even though it was several days ago.
I did chuckle at the "out for a day" coment
We do that for fun everyday in real Canada. Out west.....he just drove a few kms out of his city 🙄😁
One more comment - advice for using the wood stove in the lavvo 6 - the heat rises to the top so the bottom 2 or 3 feet of the tent is usually cold and condensation builds up - the upper part of the tent is bone dry as the heat dries up the moisture.
Buy a stove heat powered fan.
The air circulation is a game changer.
Absolutely makes all the difference in the world. I’ll never use it in winter without the fan again.
Cheers.
I choose the teepee every time. It’s an old proven design that has been used here in Sweden for ages. Easy to fix a broken pole. Harder to fix those long fiberglass poles on the dome. Keep it as simple as possible.
Great video 👍🏼
Don't forget the space lost in a tipi. It's a trade-off. Choose between space/comfort + extra pole weight or less space/comfort - pole weight.
@@truthseeker3404 I still choose my tipi. I can stand up in it. Easy to raise and assemble and take it down.
Thanks for the video. Can you tell me what jacket you are wearing?
Thanks.
Well winch me out and break my shovel, the tents are here! Happy New Year, CP!
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One of the reasons I watch this channel is because the narrator is doing a lot of winter, snow, cold weather outdoor survival,, also the fact of the living style gives a confidence on experience and expertise
Thanks,, you are doing a unlike job
There's a good reason why artic and mountain explorers use domes.. they always keep their shape under heavy snowfall, whereas cones collapse
or because they are more space efficient? depends more on the quality of the tent
You are correct 😃
Never heard of these hot tents with their stovejacks. That dome one looks pretty sweet! Just might have to get one. Thanks for sharing!
agreed, pretty cool !
People use much larger hunting tents usually up here in Canada. You can rig a stove up in anything as long as you protect the stove pipe hole from melting 😁
Faithful Prepper, I just subscribed to your channel from last night's Angry Prepper Live Chat..hope you do well in our Prepper Community
That's how us homeless survive here in the Sierra Nevada Mountains.
It's the floor of the tent that concerns me. Too much ice and snow for me! I'll stay in the cabin. I'm a city boy!
As a Norwegian i'm kinda proud seeing you use Nortent. Have been using the lavvo (tipi) tent you're showcasing here several times this winter and i usually sleep better in it then i do at home. Great video!
I like hot tents and I have a couple myself. One feature that might be worth mentioning favoring the tipi tents are that you really don't need to bring tent stakes or a tent pole. These can be made from natural materials. I think your video is missing a clip at 4:45. Happy new year.
Nice bonus of the teepee tent is if the pole breaks you can use a stick. Also pomoly makes awsome tents and great prices...
Great video and brought back more than a few memories. In the Army and conducted training on three occasions in Alaska and the stories I could tell about a bunch of "lower 48ers" wrestling with a ten man tent with liner, a yukon stove and an ahkio!
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge on these hot tents. Both the pros and cons. Even though financially most can not afford these tents, it's the knowledge of the whole spectrum to survival. Can one survive without one , and do a make shift properly? Yes, knowledge and skills goes along way. Thank you for your insightful wisdom and going the extra mile of demonstration.
Hope the rest of your Christmas went better. Thank you for your hard work. You've helped me a lot this year with your real world videos.
Excellent reviews Nate! I do appreciate all the time and effort you put into your videos!
Great idea. I never thought about adding a stove pipe exit hole in a tent. Awesome idea. I don't live in a snowy area but it does get cold( cold to us anyway).
Great to see you back out in back country. Thank you 🙏🏾 so much for all you do. Be blessed in 2021
Happy to see you came back home to edit that video after your crazy night 👍. happy new year to you as well. Altough with 2020 and likley 2021 it can sound akward
The Man, the Legend, Canadian Prepper. Wish you the best for 2021 for you and your family.
I guess this was earlier before the big episode!! Definitely Dome Tent! HAPPY NEW YEAR!! 🎉 Enjoy your family especially the kids. God bless 🙏
Thanks Bro! - been looking at investing into winter tents over the last month great timing! happy new year!
I've been having an internal debate on dome vs cone for my hunting hot tent rig. Great timing.
I never thought about camping in the winter until I watched a guy set up a big canvas tent, use a stove made for tents, and just go on about how the smell reminded him of hunting this way as a kid. In the summer you have all the skeeters and bugs out, but this looks really nice with the snow, and just looks fun. God bless.
Hey Canadian Prepper! Hope you are having a blessed day and Happy New Year friend! 🙏
Its interesting to watch these cold weather orientated videos. Here in western Australia we have pretty mild winters. Rare to hit 0°c at night mainly is around 5-10°c at night. Our main issue is the heat and the lack of water. Last 7 days its been 36-39°c most days with warm nights.
Great video CP! Appreciate the struggles you went through to get it done.
Happy New Year, Canadian Prepper!
Some good points discussed. Good job.
Here's the video that caused you some stress to make... Did you manage to get your truck fixed? Thanks for the great content and the hardship you go through to make it. We appreciate it 🤠👍
After the crap he went thru to get this video out.. I feel obligated to watch this.
Well our minds are tuned alike recently. I'm also being mindful of a winter bug out but im thinking more like a few shelters nearby that i can make and also utilize any snowmobile warm up shacks in the nearby vicinity 😊
Lately I’ve been watching a lot of guys using insulated pop up fishing shacks which where I live wouldn’t work we get rain in the winter and they don’t look water proof and at 50# without a sled and snow would be a pain but up north looks like a good option
The dome is great! Also side idea, imagine gazelle canopy and make your own jack stove, definitely half the cost.
Those tents are fine for short term but if you are going out and staying out for a week or more, a canvas wall tent is the way to go. Sure it is heavy but there are options in all seasons to transport a base camp load to where you need it. With the exception of weight, a canvas wall tent is superior by every measurable standard. Also, for the price of the nortent you can get a really nice wall tent.
From my personal research it appears that Kodiak canvas tents are definitely some of the best quality tents out there, plus some of the most cost savings as well:)
There is another style of tent not mentioned that is starting to become more popular. It’s the hub tent. Setup time is 20 seconds max. Some have insulated material which means no condensation inside and better warmth. Just watch the snow load on the roof or bring a painters pole along.
Great vid. I’ve been comparison shopping tipis & stoves for a while. Very helpful.
The teepee doesn’t need you to bring a centre poll or you can easily replace the pole with any nearby tree. You could even use an existing tree that you cut off at the 7’ mark or hang the peak from an overhead branch.
As a dude over 6foot, dome is my favorite because I can stand up a little more than right in the center
The Gamme 8 is the winner!! From the center of the inside the height and the radius are both 7’1”.
Thumbs up every time, Thanks, and Respect.
Amazing video, fantastic production quality and absolutely worth getting stuck in the woods for :D
Happy New Year !!!!🥂🍾. Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱 🙂👍
Living in Southern USA we don't get a lot of cold weather camping but for the occasional cold trip we use our summer tent (6 person dome) with a couple of Harbor Freight packing blankets stitched together and draped over, rainfly on after that. That's enough to hold the heat from a Mr. Buddy and keep us toasty at night.
Necessity is the mother of invention!
Great video man. I've been looking in to these stoves the last few weeks.
Thank you
I'm going to pick one of these up soon. Glad to see a comparison test
Dome it is.
Happy new year Nate. Hope it is a prosperous one for you
Awesome vid. I've been looking at options for next year's hunting trips. Still leaning towards canvas just because it will be drive in to camp and hike or ebike out for the hunt
Heating of a dome takes much more energy then a teepee because the extra volume over a teepee...
Happy New Year Mate. Thank you
Hey Canadian Prepper! I’ve been watching your channel for years but have been in “stealth mode” regarding Prepardeness. 😂
2020 has taught me it’s time to get involved in community. Happy New Year from beautiful British Columbia 🥳
wait till we get to 2021...YIKES ! hope you have a prepper pantry going.
@@SWPG I do SWPG. I was fortunate enough to catch the preparedness bug in 1999 haha
Happy New Year CP - it's gonna be great🌠
We all know the true heroes of this video are the doggos
0:45 7:05 8:02 11:58 13:45
Happy New Year my favorite Canadian!
Never knew they existed , thanks
This video is gonna be pretty useful for the folks in Colorado right now.
freezing in new mexico !
Guess this will useful for you to. I also found weird in some places in Mexico can get foot of snow but in Florida we just get sleet,black ice or god for bid hail.
I was just thinking about these tents. You read my mind CP.
Videos just keeping getting better !!!
Domes are actually way better in high wind than teepee. That's why observatories are domed. The geodesic dome is the strongest shape for a structure
The doom is if it is solid. I have had many doom tents and the wind or snow will disfigure it’s shape making it catch wind or build up more snow.
Last year I got a tipi 12’ tall and 20’ across and the wind is nothing in it and sheds the snow way better as it falls off the side. And it never takes a direct hit from the wind.
That’s been my experience anyways
@@JayhooOutdoors I wonder... if there is a way to combine both styles by getting two tents. The dome being better for heating, using one like his with an almost central opening for the stove pipe. If you could get a Tipi that goes over top the tent with the central poll and a stovepipe through the hole in the dome tent. That way you have wind/snow protection of that tent, allowing the Dome to just stay safe inside and heat efficiently?
@@Duskrequim that would probably work good I know some have an inner lining so it’s basically two tents and it holds the heat way better. Now I have never had a $1000 doom tent so that may make a difference for sure.
I am comparing $400 doom tents to a $1800 tipi so not exactly fare. I see tipis with a inner wall about 6 feet high with a peace of canvas at about that height that covers hate the inside to hold the heat down. But they are way to heavy.
@@Duskrequim I love my canvas tipi and wood stove it’s like a home away from home at -20 out side I’m having to let the stove run down as I am at 20 inside sweeting lol.
But unfortunately I could not use it as a bug out really as it is about 80lbs tipi and the same for the wood stove you are not getting it far from where you park the car unfortunately it would be bugging out in style if I could
the reason observatories are dome shaped has nothing to do with the wind. Is is because a dome gives you the most internal space for surface area of the exterior.
Pop up ice fishing tent are a way better alternatives yes they are heavier (30lbs for the one I have), but easier setup and lots of place inside. That's what I use and I love it. I have a eskimo fatfish 949
@HH yep, easy install aswell. Just use a stove jack in place of a roof vent then your GTG add a welding blanket just in case that you drap on the poles behind the stove and voila.
HAPPY NEW YEAR CANADIAN PREPPER!!!!!! THANKS FOR A GREAT YEAR!!!!! THANKS FOR ALL THE VIDEO'S YOU MADE THIS YEAR FOR US TO WATCH!!!!! SEE YOU NEXT UPCOMING YEAR CANADIAN PREPPER!!!
I'm homeless in the Sierra Nevada Mountains I needed this review.
Great video, made me feel cold just watching! I like the look of the dome tent myself.
I have been thinking about modifying an ice fishing tent for winter camping. They are already double-wall insulated and if I could put a stove and chimney in one I bet it would be incredibly warm.
Happy New Year Jonathan! Wishing you and your family health and happiness in 2021!🎉
Happy 2021 Canabdian Prepper!
Excellent not coming from a cold environment this information is very interesting thanks and helpful.🍻👏👏👏
Wish I could afford one
Thanks for posting the video. I have one difference of opinion regarding which is easier when there is little snow. At least when camping in the Sierra, even places that look like soft soil usually have some mix of rocks just below the surface. This renders stakes to be only marginally useful. I then have to scrounge for logs or rocks. If it's windy, they have to be large and heavy. This is less of an issue with the dome tent. With a teepee tent, the center pole becomes a pivot point for lifting the windward side of the tent. No such fulcrum exists with the dome tent. So, for windy conditions, with little snow to pack around the perimeter, and soil that limits the use of stakes, the dome tent seems the better choice
Tipi, deep snow or not. Easy to set up and stake. Great with a stove, you could use a small tree for the pole saving you a little weight backpacking. Love 'em.
Wow. Those dogs are GORGEOUS ‼️❤️
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
Great video thanks
GREAT 😆👍🏻 Á-B comparison. A dome tent for me (someday).
I like this video, but I like more the last video when you stuck there with your pickup, that video give the idea to be almost a real prepper 100%, 👍😁
8:38 in the pyramid there is less space for hot air to distribute, so there will be hot air in lower altitude than in the dome where it has more room to expand on top(?) it is just an hypothesis
Excellent presentation!!!
Personally I think I would want the dome but teepee is better in some situations.
Our Arctic Fox hot tent by Esker is nice because it has half the stake down points the true teepee style does. It is a little difficult to set up though and probably weighs a signifcant amount more because it's canvas. The wood stove for it also weighs over 40lbs so taking into the bush requires a sled.
Another great video!!! Can we get some products that are for comfort? Too old for all that no pain no gain crap. Alot of us want a video for easy set up and a good Expresso.
Happy new year! 😊
Happy New Year!!!
Great video as usual Happy New Year to you and yours and I assume you've seen the Four Season insulated hot tents that are made by manufacturer in Russia and now sold in the United States and I believe Canada not cheap but something to look into if you haven't already blessings and give a big tummy scratch or to your wonderful canine family
I use the "Eureka Assault 4" tent $600. As long as your in sunshine and its 0 degrees outside, this tent is 50° inside.
As i write this it's 50° out here and it's approx. 90° inside. Got to open the zippered doors to cool off.
Thank for an other excellent right to the point video
Outstanding video. Love my Gamme 4 and Tipi 4.
Great job is always want to wish you and yours happy New Year
Happy New Year and best wishes on the New Year
Keep up the good work 👍🏼
Its the before stuck video!!!! YAY!!!!
Having had a nortent tipi 6 I’d go for the dome!
The staking, the wall sag, and having to frequently re-tension…
A great tent and used it many times, but the dome is the way to go for me.
Wintertrekker another Canadian youtuber with a lot of winter hot tent camping videos and advice.
Really need that Dome Tent in my life
Once you’re at -20 degrees it just sucks to be outside. The coldest I’ve hit outside “camping” was -38 degrees. At those temps it’s no joke just surviving 😳
How does the inner tent do when stove is there would it melt?
Another great video 👍
Tipi design seems good because you don't have to use a center pole at all if you have a tree branch overhead, you can just suspend with cord from tree branch, or cut a pole in the woods.
Excellent
this is some pretty quality youtube hottent you posted here.
Happy New Year
Canvas tents do have some benefits: way more rugged than syl nylon and they have better breathability. Llok at ATUK tents made in Canada
Looked at them, I think. atuktents.com/en_prospector.php at first I was looking at the wrong price list thinking "$175 and up? That'll cut into grocery money, but..." Then I saw the actual prices were more around $1000 and up.
Not saying it isn't worth it. Just what average, financially struggling person can afford that? I'd have to forego paying rent to pay for that, but still need a place in society to live while waiting for the tent to be delivered. Yeah, I know, with survival things ya get what ya pay for. But many of us can't afford to pay much. Even a $200+ tent is a major dent for most incomes.
@@gypsywoman9140 I agree the prices went up like crazy. When I bought mine it was 600$ and I thought it was pretty expensive
Dumb question here. How come there isnt a bottom on the winter tents?