I think it’s because the 2D sprite games use a jumping animation for when Link goes down to a lower level, so he’s applying said logic to all instances of Link going down to a lower level, even though the 2.5D games like A Link Between Worlds and TriForce Heroes explicitly have falling animations.
@@haakenbailey7381 ALBW allows falling when you come out of the wall though, that's not a jump. Though you do have to jump to beat the game anyhow so I guess it doesn't matter much.
@@Bullyproof297 Well, I tried playing it recently and ah... after forcing myself through a few levels, I just can't be arsed to play it anymore. It just isn't fun. It's stupid since Four Swords Anniversary Edition and Four Swords Adventures worked just fine and were plenty fun when playing them solo, yet Triforce Heroes was just such a frustrating experience. And it's not like they had no other option with the controls and switching, they just didn't put in any effort into making the game properly playable solo.
4:23 not that you'd get much further, but in the Deku Tree you can climb up the vines on the platform you jumped to. You'd have to jump to beat the dungeon anyway.
Who says you even need to beat the deku tree? You can Navi dive down the well to escape the Kokiri foret, you can infinite crouch stab to get rid of npcs that are blocking off the other 2 ways out of the forest, you can stale reference manipulate the game's code to literally summon the credits. You can wrong warp to the the final confrontation with Ganon. You can even overload a level to to create warps to ganon that can trigger through doors and floors.
ALBW: you don't jump out of painting mode, but there are definitely dungeons where jumping is manditory. TFH: that's falling. Later you use the tornado rod, which is debatable but I'd argue you're being lifted. TotK: that's falling. I think you're forced to jump to reach the recall shrine and maybe the door to the surface tho, unless maybe you can recall lock a bunch of random stuff to walk on
At least for tri-force heros and TOTK I’m with Nico on those being considered as jumping down Generally I’d say one of the major differences between jumping down and falling down something is the agency involved in it. You wouldn’t call someone willingly hopping/jumping down the stairs as falling down the stairs, and you wouldn’t generally call someone doing a high dive into water falling into the water
13:25 I mean, TECHNICALLYYYYYY you're NOT JUMPING. You're just FALLING. Link never actually made a JUMPING motion. He just started falling after magically materializing midair
No need to redo, as this video was bullshit. He did the same with mario? even more hilarious. it was clear that you cant beat nearly all of the zelda games as jumping is a key feature.
@@tubezone666I was a pretty disappointing video. I was into it until he skipped alttp because you have to… jump out of bed. It could have been a good joke too :(
There sure is a lot of jumping for a series notorious for not having a jump button until Breath of the Wild... which ironically is one of two games that can be beaten without jumping.
4:16 In OOT in the Deku Tree you don’t have to go on the latter there is vines on the other side but it really isn’t worth it because later in the dungeon you will have to jump but you could of gone further 😅
Yep, though I will say he isn't going to get much further after that, there are spots in the deku tree where you do have to jump in order to progress soo kinda a lose lose situation there.
He can skip the great deku tree entirely, he could have reached out to the speedrun community. There are so many ways to escape the kokiri forest eary, there's the Navi dive (even he cant call clipping through the floor a jump instead of a fall) there's the infinite crouch stab which will send mido flying.(which should work on that other kokiri guarding the bridge path) it's even possible to overload level data to the point that you create warps to ganon that trigger through doors and floors
"jump [ juhmp ] Phonetic (Standard)IPA verb (used without object) to spring clear of the ground or other support by a sudden muscular effort; leap: to jump into the air; to jump out a window. to rise suddenly or quickly: He jumped from his seat when she entered." There are a few instances in this video that do not align with the definition of jumping. There must be a rise, an upward trajectory, or in the case of video games, your Y position must increase. Walking off a footing does not cause any of these to occur that are even related to the word "jump."
I’m surprised he didn’t straight out say “Link has to jump into the adventure in all the games, so none are beatable without jumping!” and called it a day
In Windwaker you wouldn’t have made it to the forest even if jump attack didn’t exist. There’s a gap in the bridge to the forest that you have to jump over LOL Also, it’s a shame walking off a ledge is counted as a jump when there’s no animation for a jump. Games like tears of the kingdom could’ve been very creative!
Well in Tears of the Kingdom you can climb down from the side of the island and go down. That wouldn't help you in the Ultrahand shrine though because that contains at least 1 jump
in ocarina of time i think he forgot he could climb up the vines after the jump but pretty sure he would still need to jump at some point elsewhere lol
Anyone want to tell him that Four Swords is random? If you reload the game enough times, you might be able to get lucky enough to get all 3 keys and reach Vaati without jumping. It still might not be possible; I play Four Swords with my bro ALOT, and we still see new set pieces occasionally. There might be required jumps in Vaati's Palace regardless, but again the levels randomise.
4:25 that is a climbable wall right past those ledges you have to jump over skipping that part. but you can't get much further cause to get to the basement you have to jump down the middle of the tree
6:29 I cannot for the life me find this song. I am an avid fan of the Zelda 1 dungeon theme, I searched through the entire Four Swords OST and could not find it
Me be like: "What a pointless video. Jumping is so much of a non-thing in Zelda, that it even became a meme when we were FINALLY ABLE to jump in Breath of the Wild!" *Zelda II shows it's face* Me: "Oh. Right." *Feather shows it's face* Me. "Oh. ... Right..." But man, I really absolutely didn't realize there were that many mandatory jumps in this game. Even though I honestly wouldn't count "jumping out of the bed". Like, we could just say he was simply "stepping out of it". At least in ALTTP, I wonder if it would've been jumpless that way.
well jumping and falling are 2 very different things. are you jumping if someone kicks the chair you are standing on away and you fall on the ground, didn't thought so and with that is totk probably doable if you just walk over the cliff instead of jumping from the island
Idk, some of these jumps seem way more like falling instead. If you don’t have to bend your knees to drop down, doesn’t seem like it should be classified as a jump, it should be a fall instead. I demand a redo!
Judging by the amount of speedrun exploits there are in oot, beating the game without jumping should totally be possible. Majora's Mask? Well, I dont know but I assume yes.
im pretty sure for FS what layout you get on each run through of a level is mostly random so you could have reset a few times till jumping wasnt necessary
I love how he gives us the benefit of the doubt that we would think the parry in wind waker isn't a jump but the clear falling animations in lbw tfh and totk are undisputable jumps. Come on man. There's clearly a different between the intentional action of leaping and just walking off a ledge
When you were in totk it says jump but you don't actually jump because it would activate a cutscene so it wouldn't count right also im disappointed you didn't try any exploits within these games you just played normally for example in oot you could have done the sword clip to get out and progress
U ended oot prematurely, there’s climbable vines after the jumps from the bottom, idk how much further u can make it especially since u need to jump into the spider web to break it Also i don’t think that getting out of bed is rlly a jump
Technically in phantom hourglass you are controlling Celia not link soooo you can go through the whole game without jumping because celia isn't jumping link is following her 😂
In twilight princess can’t you push the cradle to land? Or not I never really tried it! So you can make it farther if you can push that cradle in the water to land!!
I imagine no for Link's Awakening and if you consider ANY thing a "jump" then no for MOST games . I hate challneges like this you people always glitch to win any how.
14:10 They’re not jumping, they’re falling onto their feet!
Factsssss
Thats what i was saying every fking time link fell down
Dude, you don’t have to jump to activate the big intro shot cutscene in TOTK, you can just walk off and the game activates the cutscene anyway
Next up, Can I beat every zelda game without collecting a single rupee?
The Nico vs. Currency rivalry continues!
I was thinking of a challenge like that...
@@julpul6don’t remind me
definitely not a link between worlds, its the most capitalist zelda game there is
Phantom hourglass be like: No way IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Nico for some reason: "Falling Down = Jump"
I think it’s because the 2D sprite games use a jumping animation for when Link goes down to a lower level, so he’s applying said logic to all instances of Link going down to a lower level, even though the 2.5D games like A Link Between Worlds and TriForce Heroes explicitly have falling animations.
He didn't want to play triforce heroes for long
@@Bullyproof297 it was more than just Triforce Heroes.
@@haakenbailey7381 ALBW allows falling when you come out of the wall though, that's not a jump. Though you do have to jump to beat the game anyhow so I guess it doesn't matter much.
@@Bullyproof297 Well, I tried playing it recently and ah... after forcing myself through a few levels, I just can't be arsed to play it anymore. It just isn't fun. It's stupid since Four Swords Anniversary Edition and Four Swords Adventures worked just fine and were plenty fun when playing them solo, yet Triforce Heroes was just such a frustrating experience. And it's not like they had no other option with the controls and switching, they just didn't put in any effort into making the game properly playable solo.
14:16 jumping is not really the same as falling haha, I think you just wanted an excuse to not play the game
You also can fall off the sky islands
Facts just went into comments to see if people also think that aint a jump
4:23 not that you'd get much further, but in the Deku Tree you can climb up the vines on the platform you jumped to. You'd have to jump to beat the dungeon anyway.
you would only be able to walk two feet more since thrres a gap immediately after
Who says you even need to beat the deku tree?
You can Navi dive down the well to escape the Kokiri foret, you can infinite crouch stab to get rid of npcs that are blocking off the other 2 ways out of the forest, you can stale reference manipulate the game's code to literally summon the credits. You can wrong warp to the the final confrontation with Ganon. You can even overload a level to to create warps to ganon that can trigger through doors and floors.
ALBW: you don't jump out of painting mode, but there are definitely dungeons where jumping is manditory.
TFH: that's falling. Later you use the tornado rod, which is debatable but I'd argue you're being lifted.
TotK: that's falling. I think you're forced to jump to reach the recall shrine and maybe the door to the surface tho, unless maybe you can recall lock a bunch of random stuff to walk on
in link between worlds, there is a clear jumping animation, but what YOU did was FALLING. Very different.
again with tri-force heroes, not jumping.
and TOTK
Please, stop counting falling down as jumping nico!
At least for tri-force heros and TOTK I’m with Nico on those being considered as jumping down
Generally I’d say one of the major differences between jumping down and falling down something is the agency involved in it. You wouldn’t call someone willingly hopping/jumping down the stairs as falling down the stairs, and you wouldn’t generally call someone doing a high dive into water falling into the water
...dude, falling not jumping.
I dunno, a few of those "jumps" just looked like falling.
like the totk one, you can just fall off.
That's not jumping. That's falling with style!
You’re mocking me aren’t you? 🤣
Some of these last ones weren't jumps at all, Link just walked of a ledge in Triforce Heroes and Tears of the Kingdom.
The button prompt in TotK literally says ‘Jump’ lol
😊
@@Finch460 It does, but nothing forces you to follow the prompt. You can just walk off the side.
i love the acrobatic jumps added in majoras mask, its a cool little detail
I already wondered why they gave Link such stylish jumps in MM, but they were obviously proud of them by making you do them right at the start
And then they hardly use them anywhere else
13:25 I mean, TECHNICALLYYYYYY you're NOT JUMPING. You're just FALLING. Link never actually made a JUMPING motion. He just started falling after magically materializing midair
Four Swords levels are randomly generated so could you get a map for Vaati's Palace where you don't have to jump?
Looks like someone needs to redo this video while having falling count.
No need to redo, as this video was bullshit. He did the same with mario? even more hilarious. it was clear that you cant beat nearly all of the zelda games as jumping is a key feature.
@@tubezone666I was a pretty disappointing video. I was into it until he skipped alttp because you have to… jump out of bed. It could have been a good joke too :(
In BOTW, to start climbing, link does a jump animation to gain some height. I believe that one needs revising or a better explanation
There sure is a lot of jumping for a series notorious for not having a jump button until Breath of the Wild... which ironically is one of two games that can be beaten without jumping.
There is a jump button in Zelda 2.
@@spidersquid8 and Rocs Feather in Link's awakening and oracles (although i THINK its only oracle of seasons that has rocs cape)
Additionally most 3d zeldas have jump slashes, back flips... used with -- you guessed it -- Z button
Link's Awakening is all a dream while Link is floating at sea, so technically he never jumps.
FACTS!!!!!!!!!!
So for the last one falling down counts what what’s the difference between jumping and falling down?
Finally another Zelda video after about 6 years
10:03 You jumped onto Epona!
2:50 I LOVE your cat!
4:16 In OOT in the Deku Tree you don’t have to go on the latter there is vines on the other side but it really isn’t worth it because later in the dungeon you will have to jump but you could of gone further 😅
I thought the same thing, he'd have to jump in the slingshot room if he avoided the first one
Yep, though I will say he isn't going to get much further after that, there are spots in the deku tree where you do have to jump in order to progress soo kinda a lose lose situation there.
He can skip the great deku tree entirely, he could have reached out to the speedrun community. There are so many ways to escape the kokiri forest eary, there's the Navi dive (even he cant call clipping through the floor a jump instead of a fall) there's the infinite crouch stab which will send mido flying.(which should work on that other kokiri guarding the bridge path) it's even possible to overload level data to the point that you create warps to ganon that trigger through doors and floors
"jump
[ juhmp ]
Phonetic (Standard)IPA
verb (used without object)
to spring clear of the ground or other support by a sudden muscular effort; leap:
to jump into the air;
to jump out a window.
to rise suddenly or quickly:
He jumped from his seat when she entered."
There are a few instances in this video that do not align with the definition of jumping. There must be a rise, an upward trajectory, or in the case of video games, your Y position must increase. Walking off a footing does not cause any of these to occur that are even related to the word "jump."
I'm so glad you made another no jump video!
4:23 You can actually use the vines to climb onto this section without jumping, so no problem here..
I’m surprised he didn’t straight out say “Link has to jump into the adventure in all the games, so none are beatable without jumping!” and called it a day
5'43 Imagine if there was a chance of the minecart breaking if Link jumps into one.
I love how aggressively happy he is every time Link gets out of bed in a cutscene
No, you gotta redo A Link Between Worlds. He's not jumping off of anything, he's falling down.
At least one, I guess
9:40 When you wake up, you lie in a bed in the castle. There you don't jump out of it in a cutscene, but you have to press a button for that.
yo I used to watch all your vids back in 2016-2017 and forgot about you and then found this and it brought back a lot of good memories.
Is leaving the painting and falling down really jumping? There is no positive vertical component to the movement
Beating Zelda games without jumping is easy! What I really want to know is can you beat Minecraft without using Light Blue Terracotta?
"we're jumping down!"
It's not jumping down, it's falling with style!
In Windwaker you wouldn’t have made it to the forest even if jump attack didn’t exist. There’s a gap in the bridge to the forest that you have to jump over LOL
Also, it’s a shame walking off a ledge is counted as a jump when there’s no animation for a jump. Games like tears of the kingdom could’ve been very creative!
Well in Tears of the Kingdom you can climb down from the side of the island and go down. That wouldn't help you in the Ultrahand shrine though because that contains at least 1 jump
in ocarina of time i think he forgot he could climb up the vines after the jump
but pretty sure he would still need to jump at some point elsewhere lol
If you don't make him jump out of bed the game won't start and he'll be there forever.
That hit home lol
You should try this challenge again using speedrun strategies. See how much further you can get.
i wouldnt call that jumping for TotK. You can just walk off
Anyone want to tell him that Four Swords is random?
If you reload the game enough times, you might be able to get lucky enough to get all 3 keys and reach Vaati without jumping.
It still might not be possible; I play Four Swords with my bro ALOT, and we still see new set pieces occasionally. There might be required jumps in Vaati's Palace regardless, but again the levels randomise.
continue with this series please
4:25 that is a climbable wall right past those ledges you have to jump over skipping that part. but you can't get much further cause to get to the basement you have to jump down the middle of the tree
4:18 You could actually climb with the vines in the wall next to the first 2 jumps that you mention
bruh is blind, there were vines making him not have to jump the spot he jumped in OOT
6:29 I cannot for the life me find this song. I am an avid fan of the Zelda 1 dungeon theme, I searched through the entire Four Swords OST and could not find it
2:49 Hi kitty! 😸
Me be like: "What a pointless video. Jumping is so much of a non-thing in Zelda, that it even became a meme when we were FINALLY ABLE to jump in Breath of the Wild!"
*Zelda II shows it's face*
Me: "Oh. Right."
*Feather shows it's face*
Me. "Oh. ... Right..."
But man, I really absolutely didn't realize there were that many mandatory jumps in this game. Even though I honestly wouldn't count "jumping out of the bed". Like, we could just say he was simply "stepping out of it". At least in ALTTP, I wonder if it would've been jumpless that way.
In the great deku tree of oot you dont have to climb the ladder, there are vines that skip the part where you needed to jump
well jumping and falling are 2 very different things. are you jumping if someone kicks the chair you are standing on away and you fall on the ground, didn't thought so and with that is totk probably doable if you just walk over the cliff instead of jumping from the island
Try beating Mario wonder without touching or using the Wonder Flower.
Idk, some of these jumps seem way more like falling instead. If you don’t have to bend your knees to drop down, doesn’t seem like it should be classified as a jump, it should be a fall instead. I demand a redo!
10:30, no baby for da lady
I wonder how many would be possible if glitches are allowed. Ocarina of Time is definitely possible with the credits warp
I think you can make it farther in Triforce Heroes if you have two friends to do all the jumping.
What about Link's Crossbow Training? And Zelda Monopoly?
Well if walking of a cliff is already regarded as jumping
Why not beginn climbing down & then just let it go let it go
Judging by the amount of speedrun exploits there are in oot, beating the game without jumping should totally be possible. Majora's Mask? Well, I dont know but I assume yes.
In ocarina of time, there’s vines you could’ve climbed instead
im pretty sure for FS what layout you get on each run through of a level is mostly random so you could have reset a few times till jumping wasnt necessary
In phantom hourglass you can actually roll across these gaps instead of jumping
What's the minimum possible jumps required to beat every Zelda game?
You're wrong about tears of the kingdom, you don't have to jump.
You can just walk off the platform.
I love how he gives us the benefit of the doubt that we would think the parry in wind waker isn't a jump but the clear falling animations in lbw tfh and totk are undisputable jumps. Come on man. There's clearly a different between the intentional action of leaping and just walking off a ledge
you forgot the CD-i games, cadence of hyrule and the hyrule warriors games
Most Zelda games don't have jumping mechanics what-
You didn't have to jump in totk, if you climb on top of the small island there's a wing at the top so you can glide down
totk u don't have to jump. u can jusr fall down
Actually you could have actually finished a link between worlds that isn't jumping that is you coming out of the painting and then falling
When you were in totk it says jump but you don't actually jump because it would activate a cutscene so it wouldn't count right also im disappointed you didn't try any exploits within these games you just played normally for example in oot you could have done the sword clip to get out and progress
Theres some vines in the great deku tree that skip the two jumps
I don't really think falling from a ledge should count, but go off sis.
Can I beat every Zelda game without link grunting?
But what if you went climbing on the Clift at the start of Tears of the kingdom and fell into the water than you can get farther without jumping!
In ocarina of time you can use a different set of vines and skip the jump
FALLING. NOT. JUMPING.
If you count the jumps out of the bed, then why not the jump onto Epona in Twilight Princess?
Some times you fall and not jump, make again ❤
I watched a 16 minute video about a question I knew the answer to.
In Mario challenges you usually see how few coins or whatever. Should redo lttp without the bed thing. Shouldn't count or be as few as possible.
Zelda without pesky coi......i mean, pesky rupees when?? 😅
boutta bust
U ended oot prematurely, there’s climbable vines after the jumps from the bottom, idk how much further u can make it especially since u need to jump into the spider web to break it
Also i don’t think that getting out of bed is rlly a jump
Technically in phantom hourglass you are controlling Celia not link soooo you can go through the whole game without jumping because celia isn't jumping link is following her 😂
I'd argue ALBW isnt jumping rather falling down, this doesnt count.
Well I think some of those jumps were falls so I believe that ALBW and TotK are both fair game if you just fall not jump. 😀
In twilight princess can’t you push the cradle to land? Or not I never really tried it! So you can make it farther if you can push that cradle in the water to land!!
No Mario‽ I guess you've played every Mario game to do a challenge to that your going to their other flagship Legend of Zelda
Not jumping that’s falling.
Falling and jumping is 2 different things
14:12 Actually, that's falling
what version of OOT and MM are that?
Why would link even jump out of bed instead of doing it normally
In TotK, can you just climb down and fall? Thats technically not jumping
What about Link: The Faces of Evil on the CDi?
I imagine no for Link's Awakening and if you consider ANY thing a "jump" then no for MOST games .
I hate challneges like this you people always glitch to win any how.