At 12:23 When I talk about maintenance intervals, I read from the brochure wrong. I read the sheet in kilometres and not miles. Short Haul Oil Change is 35K miles and Long Haul Oil Change is 50K miles. Sorry for the slip up there. Thanks for the support! - Chuck
Chuck, youre awesome my friend. Loved the info. Once I can save the pennies... I'll be showing up to buy one of these bad boys. Dreams but I will make it happen!!
Being an ex truck driver I can say that I wouldn't drive a cabover then and I wouldn't now for an RV. I have been at a lot of accident scenes over the years and your survival chances in a head on collision are better in a well made class C over a "first on the accident scene" class A. The point that Chuck makes about the passenger feeling like they are falling off the road is very true, it is very unnerving to be in the passenger seat and have the edge of the road or feel like other vehicles are close enough to touch out the window. It blows my mind that with all the advances in safety and standards that they still have drivers in front of the front wheel, no crumple zone is going to help keep you from eating the front of another vehicle in a wreck situation.
IWS has got to be the best place to buy an RV. Watch their other vids and you'll see how this guy presents his product in clear detail from the mechanics, structural integrity and features. He doesn't come across as trying to sell you something, he's educating the viewer so when ready to buy you know exactly what you're buying and his product and personal service stands far above others.
On Thursday the 25th of June I had the pleasure of meeting with Mike Hurt at your dealership and was impressed from the moment I arrived until I departed 4 hours later. Of all of the excellent points I could make, and they are numerous, was have incredibly clean everything was. When I walked into the showroom I was taken back by how everything actually gleamed, what a great first impression. Even as Mike and I walked the grounds as he showed me around the grounds were immaculate both in the gravel, behind the buildings and of course on the payment. Mike made me feel welcome and at home the entire time and is a walking encyclopedia of information, thank you.
Until a few minutes ago I had never heard of IWS. Now I can't wait to do business with you. Your transparency and straight forward style of handling your customers is very apparent. The iPad thing blew my doors off. What a tremendous value and proprietary service. I am so glad I stumbled upon this video and am now subscribed and watching more Thanks for a great job done. Many businesses can learn a lot from you.
Hi Chuck, I don't even own an RV/Motorhome, but, I clicked on your video and found it fascinating to watch. You are a true professional and really know what you're talking about. I see the clear advantage of the design of a class C motorcoach. You make a very strong argument for the advantage re: drivability of the class C configuration of engine, wheel and driver seat versus the class A Box with wheels design. I truly see the advantage that the class C has over the class A design, plus you are driving a Freightliner with a 600 Hp Detroit Diesel versus a Unicorn with a sideways rear-mounted whatever gasoline engine. I am a retired physician and the son of a Chevrolet Dealer, and grandson of a Chevrolet Dealer. I enjoyed your video and I learned a great deal, thank you. Mike Rosen, M.D.
Chuck I can’t thank you enough for doing this video. I have entertained the idea of an RV for a long time and now that I’m retired considering it even more seriously. You have brought things to light in this video that I would’ve never thought to consider before. When the time does come but I’m ready to enter the RV market I can nearly guarantee I will be reaching out to your organization. Thank you once again for providing such an informative forum!
I really agree with you Chuck, I just wish I had the money to buy one from you,but ”window shopping” is free of charge,and I will continue to follow your Channel :) :) :) super comprehensive video,as allways.
this type of motorhome has been on my Wish List ever since I saw the first one I saw in Langley, BC about 3 years ago... having driven air equipped vehicles for 43 years, I would opt for these motorhomes over a Class A anytime... having driven both flat nosed and conventional vehicles, the conventional are much more comfortable and so much easier for stopping. one question:...can I have my own layout implemented ... Chuck you did an awesome job...thank you
Thank you Chuck, l never realized the extreme differences between the A-class and Super-C. I will be buying a Super-C for business and Super-C makes business sense in every way. Thank you.
I was undecided on what my wife and I wanted to purchase for a RV. This video has made my mind up on a class A or Super C. It is a Super C, every question I had was answered in this video. I will be retiring this year and my wife and I are looking to travel the country. Super C is the way we are going.
We purchased USED 2020 Dynaquest Xl from IWS back in November and would do again. Super nice people and very thorough going through an understanding the beast. However didn’t know about the specialize service videos. I’ll have to call them and get the login. Dynaquest what a beast L9 1250 torq feel so much safer than my old class A and reliable, absolutely easy to service. thank you IWS from Palm Desert Ca. 😊
You make a good argument for the Class C-type RV. However, because of my experience, I like a class A... preferably one built on a bus-like chassis, with the steering wheels behind me. I was a city and tour bus driver for over 30 years, so that driving position is quite comfortable to me. First, it aids parking... I have parallel-parked a 40-foot MCI in a cul-de-sac by Lake Tahoe on many occasions. The long nose of a Super C, particularly, decreases visibility to the near front, making such parking maneuvers difficult. And, the Super C has a longer wheelbase than a comparably-sized bus, making the turning radius much larger. And for me, as a solo traveler, I'm not concerned about the distance between my passenger and me. In fact, I replaced the passenger seat with a desk! The one thing I will say is that, on the road, the Super-C is much more comfortable than a front-engine Class A with the driver sitting right over, and feeling all the bumps from, the front wheels.
I love the advantages of the class C. I grew up behind a hood looking at a bulldog. Nothing more miserable than working on a pusher engine. I would love to have one built on a Glidder with a 6nz Cat and a 13 or 18 speed, no Allison for me!
Thank you, for helpings new customers to decide the difference between the class A and class C Motorhomes. And the advantage a class C has, that those interested Motorhomes buyer are not aware of.
You are very knowledgeable Chuck. Thanks for the solid info on these rigs. I'm an "A" driver. If I was ever to get a motorhome it would be a Super "C".
BTW, a rear-engined Class A has the engine turned backward, not sideways. Some older buses (mostly GM before 1990) had engines mounted sideways with an angle-drive to the rear axle. That was done to increase passenger space. The hardest vehicles to work on, IMHO, are the front-engine Class A, where you have to take off the "doghouse" to get at the top of the engine, just to change oil.
I had been shopping for a class a and was shocked to learn that a prominent local couple who had been killed in a wreck just outside our city had actually died in a class a motor home. It was reported that the class a had changed lanes and departed the highway. The couple and their dog were crushed by the frame. I think the structure of a super c can probably would have protected them. I don’t know that, but it’s at least possible in a super c and not possible in a class a.
This was a really outstanding video. Super informative and I’m no longer “on the fence” between the Super C and the Class A. Gonna check out your website next and decide on next steps. Thank you.
I am in commercial HVAC service. Cheap, fast, good, you can only have two. This looks like top shelf service and I am working hard to hopefully be able to afford to be able to buy from you one day. The used list is appealing but it's probably long already.
Great knowledge and explanation. Love your commitment to the brand. Wish we lived close enough to buy our Renegade from and get maintenance from you. 😊
I used to want a class A. That was a long long time ago. A’s are harder to work on, and there is no driver escape. And some have the the only door in on the passenger way to get in. And you are correct about safety on the C. I will come and see you. I have been watching your channel for for 3 years. And I keep coming back. This will be my home, so I need the most reliable and pulling capacity! I am definitely calling you soon! Diesels are more expensive because they last longer
Hey Chuck, great video. But have you ever 'driven' a locomotive? I have, it's my career, I am a locomotive engineer. I operate locomotives daily, or as you might say I 'drive' trains. And I can say nothing on the road has power quite like that. Thanks keep up the good work.
We all need something to have a way to get out at almost a moment’s notice. 🔥 fires Flood Hurricane 🌀 Extreme weather Social issues you need to escape. They are a must. I have always needed one for peace of mind. And in good times they are just plain fun. And class C can be served anywhere and that’s reason enough!
We love full timing in our DutchStar. We love traveling of all forms; 5th wheel, bumper pull, van conversions, bus conversions, all forms of C class. Each one has its benefits for the user. NONE are the best at everything. That's for the newbies here. He likes 'em because they are what he works on. ALL types have their own clear advantages. In one bullet point class A gassers were compared. Then in another point class A diesel was used to make a point. If you must put others down in order to make a point, well, how strong is your point? RVing is a family sport guys, find out what you and yours need and go from there. Go to shows, watch some videos, talk to people. Consider all prior to purchase. One more thing. If any salesman ever spends more time putting other stuff down than talking about what he's trying to sell? Walk away... 🌞 ! go travel ! 😎
This is an incredibly informative video - my wife and I are converting a Thomas C2 bus (which is a Freightliner M2-106) into a *hopefully* nice RV rig - thanks for the info!!
Few questions 1. Super C has air brakes. Do I need a CDL? 2. Tandem rear axles do I need to stop at the truck scales on the interstate 3. I get 200 gallons of diesel can I park in the trucker parking lot at Flying J or Pilots? 4. Is there a limit on my driving hours like a commercial driver? 5. Should I get a professional GPS system where I can input the Super C weight, width and height for low bridge obstructions
I an, my wife are in our last 15 years of work she is a nurse for the navy and i am a state electrical engineer, for vdot of Virginia. Traveling is our future, if you have any of best moterhomes left by the time we do this we will be on appointed road trip to the show room to see if we are super c worthy.
I just bought a class A Rv and he’s right about the ride and crazy feeling of fear while I drive this 32’ breadbox! I would love to trade it in even for a Veracruz
Wow, you are really getting good at making these videos. You don't keep repeating the same adjectives. The little things in a video make it watchable. I may be coming to see you in the near future.
Wow I am blown away. I was about to pull the trigger with a Class A RV in Texas but after watching this and looking at their dealerships horrible reviews and lemon stories I will now get a super with your dealership only.
Same here. This is outstanding and I love your/his approach to explaining comprehensive aspects of these. Class A’s to me?: I feel like they attract way too much attention. Today you don’t want added attention and or jealous riff raff thinking you’re wealthy.
I enjoyed this presentation very much. Could you do an updated version please. It's now July of 2023 and both classes have made drastic changes. How does interior space and exterior storage space compare for instance?
ive watched your videos and speaking interior wise there is little difference between a class a and class c [super] the real didderence is excatly what you explained the cab and accessibility
I enjoy your presentations, I do not currently own a Motorhome but that could change. I enjoy the feeling I get from listening to you talk of your business. As a former business owner and a person who spent a few years on motorhome lots as a salesman to learn about them, I most admire the integrity you seem to bring to the table. If and when the time comes to buy another, I feel a drive to Idaho would be an investment in peace of mind and a door to great adventure. Good luck and thanks.
Class A is better than Class C, you're right. But would have to say Class B wins hands down. For our family of four, we've found the same benefits with our Class B + we can drive it anywhere, including downtown NYC, for any length of time, for any reason at
Let me start off by saying thank you for your videos. I know nothing about RV's or the lifestyle or the problems that come from doing it, etc. etc. I have watched several of your videos on several different coaches, excellent descriptions and videography, so thank you. I just finished watching your 29 min super class c video. Superb, so apparently this is going to be the only way to go. I dont know if I have enough money or what not to try to do something like this, but I am extremely interested. My wife and I started a business a little over a year ago and it seems to be gaining a little traction. We are fairly young, I'm 42 and she is 37, so we could definitely put some miles on something. She is a bit of a priss, not that I mind, so all the amenities would be well received. Just wanted to drop you a line and let you know that I appreciate your in depth descriptions and videos. Thank you.
I recommend renting one for say 1-week. Getting gas, having to be more aware of fast food places so parking areas walking over for Food; standing in line drive thrus- due to Covid. Recommend diesel over gas. We are in the process of upgrading to Class C from current Class A. We want drivability and comfort.
Yes, with a motorhome you may no longer need to make hotel reservations anymore but now need to make RV park reservations...... same problem....just in a different form....unless you boondocking or using Walmart parking lot or rest stop
Great sales pitch, you sold me. Within the next year or so I'll be looking for a "Super Class C RV. I'll be looking you up. I have a couple of questions. #1 If I needed a tow, and I was towing a 20 to 30 foot "Stacker trailer" on a 45 foot Super Class C, how would it play out? Will I have to find another way to tow my trailer? #2 Floor plan. I'm so sick and tired of the same ole floor plans. I don't know how many floor plans you all have, but I would like to take one of yours, and modify it to my specs, making a few changes. Can you do that?
Great video, very informative. Recently entered the market for an RV, and had only ever considered a Class A…until now. Your video clearly illustrates the advantages of the Class C or ‘Super C’ segment. Much appreciated, thank you!
Gentlemen I'm 70 and going to sell my home and buy an RV,We have those neighbors the ones south of Texas and just last night a party lasting till nearly 2:am, Today the flea market he does it for a living every weekend,cars line the street,loud music,park in our yards,zoning board came and done NADA!😡,We're nearly surrounded by them,Had more than enough!.
Chuck, what I really like about you is your style. You're a regular Guy, not a Spit and Polished on how you present your subject and you speak as a Customer first. I know it's a business and you have to make money but I'd have no problem buying from you. I want a Super so bad. We've talked about a Prevost but the Wife refuses to even think about it. I've looked at a "flashy" Nationwide dealer and I'm not playing that game. There're ignorant about it and it shows. We're 58 so I think we're close to you age wise and We have a great 24FT puller that we love but I want pull in and just Chill. I'm ready my Type "A" Wife is n't wants to keep working. Stinks a little when you're done with the work world but your wife loves her career and just wants to keep going. Hopefully sooner than later we'll be seeing you. One question,Are these Custom Builds and if so what's the time frame on getting one from start to finish, cash. Not a stroker?? I think that's correct.
Hi...Chuck, Before see this video, I do plan to purchase a Class C motorhome instead of a Class A. First of all, is about the Driver's License, as I only have a Class C license and Class A license need to pass DMV different tests to obtain one. Secondly, I do prefer to have the engine in front of me perhaps I have get used to drive an ordinary car in daily life for commute ... its a kind of " get used to " practise ! Lastly, I can say I totally agreed with your points of picking a Class C ! Thank You for sharing your experience with us !
I doubt I will ever be able to afford a Renegade, but I appreciate your videos and hope to someday visit your facility. I look forward to every video you post and figure coming to Idaho is one of those things, like the going to the Grand Canyon and Niagara Falls, you should do in your lifetime.
For the cost of owning/maintaining a motor home we can stay in the best resorts. We take our time in driving see a nice place stop early enjoy. They do your laundry prepare meals different environment every night if you want to. No noisy neighbors. Easy parking of car or pickup. Good gas mileage and low insurance low depreciation. If I was to rent an RV. I would choose a Super C. I like their looks and handling. Michigan
All the CONs for towing & getting work done in the motor just detoured me on buying a CLASS A!! I really liked the space you started this video hating on... That extra 1.5 feet between driver an copilot doesn't seem that wide, but then I haven't been inside 1 to notice how big a problem it be. 🙄
Not sure why you decided to mostly compare a gas class A to a Diesel Class C. Might have been better to compare it to a Diesel pusher with a freightliner chassis and allison transmission.
im totally sold on the i-pad totally genius chuck and the fact that renegade/ showhauler are the safest if you do not believe me run in to something at highway speed with a super c you might go to the hospital hit something with a class a its usually the cemetary
Hi just came across this video. Found it full of useful information on things i never had even thought of. So i have now subscribed to watch more of your videos. Thanks
I'm sure the super c's are nice, but I drive 3 rear engine buses, one of which is my personal Newmar and there are some things that aren't quite accurate. There needs to be a distinction between a diesel pusher class A and a front engine gasoline model. Until the super C came out, the class A diesel pushers were the only buses out there that had industrial truck chassis'. They are the same as the new super c and also made by Freightliner among other big truck manufacturers and have been around for over 25 years. These haul well over "5,000" lbs. Most are over 10,000. I've never heard of a transverse mounted diesel pusher. Not saying they don't exist, just certainly not prevalent enough to be a point in an argument over class A or Super c. Of the 3 pushers I drive, all different manufacturers, none are transverse. The engines are diesels just like the super c. The only thing that's different is where their mounted and the style of motorhome. The driving position certainly is different, but ever since I owned my 72 VW bus, I fell in love with the maneuverability and accuracy with which you can handle that type of vehicle when you sit over the wheels, you are not looking down over a long hood and you can very easily see how close you are to an object with your front end. Some, depending on chassis have a much tighter turning radius. Coincidentally, the bus I drive that's on the freightliner chassis has a turning radius I would swear is the same as my 4 door Silverado pickup. I have never noticed the seating position to be an issue for communication. What I do like about it is that there is much more room for getting in and out of the seats, and they are on the same level as the living room, so you can just swivel them around and you have 2 additional seating spaces. All class A with diesel engines have full air brakes and air ride suspension with full gauging. Always have. You make a good point about the front engine in the Super c, I does seem like it would be easier to access, but I've never had a problem getting any RV or truck place to work on mine. I think the part about price being more is definitely true, but it's more for all diesels than gasoline and more for any RV than car or truck. They don't change labor rates for working on class A diesel versus class C and Cummins and freightliner etc are expensive no matter what. I would be interested in driving a super c some time, but I don't think one is inherently better than the other. Both diesel, both truck chassis both have Jake brakes, both have Allison transmissions. They are just built for different needs. Class C is generally for those who have more than 2 people traveling most of the time. Class A tends to be for 2 people, with more, on occasion. Of course, this is not a hard and fast rule. They can be laid out any way that suits the buyer. It's just a matter of preference.
You took the words right out of my mouth! If I was lucky enough to be able to buy one, I'd be on a plane to Mountain Home to buy it from Chuck! There are plenty of dealerships here in south Florida but just by watching his videos and the way he presents himself, his family and his business, he's the one I trust!!
i would trust the dt 12 trans for longevity over the Allison the Detroit engine can actually make more braking hp than towing hp. not just variable valve timing but adding the "fan on" and turbo spool up to pack more air in the cylinders. most shops will not allow customers in the shop area due to insurance liability issues, so you cannot be in the rv when it is in the shop. a wrecker must raise the front end of the towed vehicle to gain control of it. how high can you raise the rv before the tail drags?
I know you’re kidding but.... I think it can be financed for up to 30 years (dont quote me and it probably depends on the financing company). I know 10, 15, 20 for sure.
A Super C is most definitely safer than a Class A. The truck chassis in a Super C have been crash tested and you have all that hood and engine as a crumple zone vs riding right on top of the front bumper in a Class A.
The amount of horsepower to go up a hill is not the same as the amount of horsepower to come down the hill. If you're going 65mph, then you have to overcome both the hill (gravity) and air resistance. When going down the hill you have to overcome the hill (gravity) but this time air resistance is working for you holding back your vehicle. So many times you'll have to release the Jake brake a few times or run at 1 or 2 instead of 3.
What are your thoughts on the newer, smaller Super C motorhomes? Many of them are using the International MV or Freightliner chassis, with the 6-7 liter Cummins engines.
Very nicely done - We have been trying to decide between A and super C and are leaning more to the super C after doing 2 years of homework. Our biggest concern is the many videos coming out about the RVs coming out of the showroom new with a ton of problems before you ever start out. I wish the quality control was better at the factories - One question to you for your opinion, If we get the super c, with a bath and 1/2, what is your thought of us taking out the bath components and making it into a walk in pantry or clothing closet? - Thanks :)
This has been on my Wish List ever since saw the first one here in Langley, BC, and having driven air brake equipped vehicles for 43 years, I would be buying one of these hands down. the one question that I would like answered... can you choose your layout...???
Thore c550 duramax 2006 180,000 fun mover 2 slides. . Runs strong. What's yr thought on this rt you stated Renaga, & other are best?? I'm new to class c but feel much safer then A. As you state. Please reply on my couch & year. Reliability
They should give a schedule for RVs. There’s no way waiting 35k for an oil change is a good idea. I have a 10 year-old RV with 35k miles. Big truck specs, big truck costs. $1k oil changes, $10k tire sets...
The bigger the RV, the fewer places you can park it. With a big RV, your view out the window will always be acres of other big RVs. With a Class B, you have a lot more choices, such as BLM areas.
At 12:23 When I talk about maintenance intervals, I read from the brochure wrong. I read the sheet in kilometres and not miles. Short Haul Oil Change is 35K miles and Long Haul Oil Change is 50K miles. Sorry for the slip up there. Thanks for the support! - Chuck
Chuck, youre awesome my friend. Loved the info. Once I can save the pennies... I'll be showing up to buy one of these bad boys. Dreams but I will make it happen!!
I'm looking for a Motorcoach for my family of 7. What would you recommend
How much 💰 is this lovely machine.
Being an ex truck driver I can say that I wouldn't drive a cabover then and I wouldn't now for an RV. I have been at a lot of accident scenes over the years and your survival chances in a head on collision are better in a well made class C over a "first on the accident scene" class A. The point that Chuck makes about the passenger feeling like they are falling off the road is very true, it is very unnerving to be in the passenger seat and have the edge of the road or feel like other vehicles are close enough to touch out the window. It blows my mind that with all the advances in safety and standards that they still have drivers in front of the front wheel, no crumple zone is going to help keep you from eating the front of another vehicle in a wreck situation.
IWS has got to be the best place to buy an RV. Watch their other vids and you'll see how this guy presents his product in clear detail from the mechanics, structural integrity and features. He doesn't come across as trying to sell you something, he's educating the viewer so when ready to buy you know exactly what you're buying and his product and personal service stands far above others.
On Thursday the 25th of June I had the pleasure of meeting with Mike Hurt at your dealership and was impressed from the moment I arrived until I departed 4 hours later. Of all of the excellent points I could make, and they are numerous, was have incredibly clean everything was. When I walked into the showroom I was taken back by how everything actually gleamed, what a great first impression. Even as Mike and I walked the grounds as he showed me around the grounds were immaculate both in the gravel, behind the buildings and of course on the payment. Mike made me feel welcome and at home the entire time and is a walking encyclopedia of information, thank you.
Until a few minutes ago I had never heard of IWS. Now I can't wait to do business with you. Your transparency and straight forward style of handling your customers is very apparent. The iPad thing blew my doors off. What a tremendous value and proprietary service. I am so glad I stumbled upon this video and am now subscribed and watching more Thanks for a great job done. Many businesses can learn a lot from you.
Hi Chuck, I don't even own an RV/Motorhome, but, I clicked on your video and found it fascinating to watch. You are a true professional and really know what you're talking about.
I see the clear advantage of the design of a class C motorcoach. You make a very strong argument for the advantage re: drivability of the class C configuration of engine, wheel and driver seat versus the class A Box with wheels design. I truly see the advantage that the class C has over the class A design, plus you are driving a Freightliner with a 600 Hp Detroit Diesel versus a Unicorn with a sideways rear-mounted whatever gasoline engine.
I am a retired physician and the son of a Chevrolet Dealer, and grandson of a Chevrolet Dealer.
I enjoyed your video and I learned a great deal, thank you. Mike Rosen, M.D.
Chuck I can’t thank you enough for doing this video. I have entertained the idea of an RV for a long time and now that I’m retired considering it even more seriously. You have brought things to light in this video that I would’ve never thought to consider before. When the time does come but I’m ready to enter the RV market I can nearly guarantee I will be reaching out to your organization. Thank you once again for providing such an informative forum!
Chuck is very detailed in the way he explains the Super C's. Love it! Good job Chuck!
I don’t even own a motorhome but I’m here and listening to you! This video is very informative! Thank you!
I thought I was the only one lol
That's the point to buy
Seriously!! I am sold on Super C’s now if we buy one!!
Me too
Nope y’all ain’t the only one cause my mind is made up now, I drive a truck for a living and he’s right 100 percent about the difference on both
I really agree with you Chuck, I just wish I had the money to buy one from you,but ”window shopping” is free of charge,and I will continue to follow your Channel :) :) :) super comprehensive video,as allways.
this type of motorhome has been on my Wish List ever since I saw the first one I saw in Langley, BC about 3 years ago... having driven air equipped vehicles for 43 years, I would opt for these motorhomes over a Class A anytime... having driven both flat nosed and conventional vehicles, the conventional are much more comfortable and so much easier for stopping. one question:...can I have my own layout implemented ... Chuck you did an awesome job...thank you
Thank you Chuck, l never realized the extreme differences between the A-class and Super-C. I will be buying a Super-C for business and Super-C makes business sense in every way. Thank you.
I was undecided on what my wife and I wanted to purchase for a RV. This video has made my mind up on a class A or Super C. It is a Super C, every question I had was answered in this video. I will be retiring this year and my wife and I are looking to travel the country. Super C is the way we are going.
We purchased USED 2020 Dynaquest Xl from IWS back in November and would do again. Super nice people and very thorough going through an understanding the beast. However didn’t know about the specialize service videos. I’ll have to call them and get the login. Dynaquest what a beast L9 1250 torq feel so much safer than my old class A and reliable, absolutely easy to service. thank you IWS from Palm Desert Ca. 😊
This is exactly I've been telling people I know! The Super C is a much better RV Platform!
You make a good argument for the Class C-type RV. However, because of my experience, I like a class A... preferably one built on a bus-like chassis, with the steering wheels behind me. I was a city and tour bus driver for over 30 years, so that driving position is quite comfortable to me. First, it aids parking... I have parallel-parked a 40-foot MCI in a cul-de-sac by Lake Tahoe on many occasions. The long nose of a Super C, particularly, decreases visibility to the near front, making such parking maneuvers difficult. And, the Super C has a longer wheelbase than a comparably-sized bus, making the turning radius much larger. And for me, as a solo traveler, I'm not concerned about the distance between my passenger and me. In fact, I replaced the passenger seat with a desk! The one thing I will say is that, on the road, the Super-C is much more comfortable than a front-engine Class A with the driver sitting right over, and feeling all the bumps from, the front wheels.
I love the advantages of the class C. I grew up behind a hood looking at a bulldog. Nothing more miserable than working on a pusher engine. I would love to have one built on a Glidder with a 6nz Cat and a 13 or 18 speed, no Allison for me!
I like your way of thinking, I'm retired after 43 years, drove the 3406, once you have a Cat, you'll never go back.
Thank you, for helpings new customers to decide the difference between the class A and class C Motorhomes. And the advantage a class C has, that those interested Motorhomes buyer are not aware of.
You are very knowledgeable Chuck. Thanks for the solid info on these rigs. I'm an "A" driver. If I was ever to get a motorhome it would be a Super "C".
This video is the best argument for a Class C. Also, the safety of a Class has convinced me. I will definitely be stopping by very soon.
Beautifully done Chuck. I learned a lot! Thank you for producing this video.
BTW, a rear-engined Class A has the engine turned backward, not sideways. Some older buses (mostly GM before 1990) had engines mounted sideways with an angle-drive to the rear axle. That was done to increase passenger space. The hardest vehicles to work on, IMHO, are the front-engine Class A, where you have to take off the "doghouse" to get at the top of the engine, just to change oil.
I had been shopping for a class a and was shocked to learn that a prominent local couple who had been killed in a wreck just outside our city had actually died in a class a motor home. It was reported that the class a had changed lanes and departed the highway. The couple and their dog were crushed by the frame. I think the structure of a super c can probably would have protected them. I don’t know that, but it’s at least possible in a super c and not possible in a class a.
This has to be one of the best RV videos I’ve ever seen! Well done!
Great video!!! Someday soon my wife and I will be seeing you. Love Love Love the XL with a stacker trailer is what we are after. Stay healthy!
This was a really outstanding video. Super informative and I’m no longer “on the fence” between the Super C and the Class A. Gonna check out your website next and decide on next steps. Thank you.
I am in commercial HVAC service. Cheap, fast, good, you can only have two. This looks like top shelf service and I am working hard to hopefully be able to afford to be able to buy from you one day. The used list is appealing but it's probably long already.
Great knowledge and explanation. Love your commitment to the brand. Wish we lived close enough to buy our Renegade from and get maintenance from you. 😊
One of the finest presentations I have ever seen. Well Done!!
I used to want a class A. That was a long long time ago. A’s are harder to work on, and there is no driver escape. And some have the the only door in on the passenger way to get in. And you are correct about safety on the C. I will come and see you. I have been watching your channel for for 3 years. And I keep coming back. This will be my home, so I need the most reliable and pulling capacity! I am definitely calling you soon! Diesels are more expensive because they last longer
Hey Chuck, great video. But have you ever 'driven' a locomotive? I have, it's my career, I am a locomotive engineer. I operate locomotives daily, or as you might say I 'drive' trains. And I can say nothing on the road has power quite like that. Thanks keep up the good work.
We all need something to have a way to get out at almost a moment’s notice.
🔥 fires
Flood
Hurricane 🌀
Extreme weather
Social issues you need to escape.
They are a must. I have always needed one for peace of mind. And in good times they are just plain fun. And class C can be served anywhere and that’s reason enough!
When I buy my Class C, IWS is the only place I intend to go.
We love full timing in our DutchStar. We love traveling of all forms; 5th wheel, bumper pull, van conversions, bus conversions, all forms of C class. Each one has its benefits for the user. NONE are the best at everything. That's for the newbies here. He likes 'em because they are what he works on. ALL types have their own clear advantages.
In one bullet point class A gassers were compared. Then in another point class A diesel was used to make a point. If you must put others down in order to make a point, well, how strong is your point?
RVing is a family sport guys, find out what you and yours need and go from there. Go to shows, watch some videos, talk to people. Consider all prior to purchase.
One more thing. If any salesman ever spends more time putting other stuff down than talking about what he's trying to sell?
Walk away...
🌞 ! go travel ! 😎
This is an incredibly informative video - my wife and I are converting a Thomas C2 bus (which is a Freightliner M2-106) into a *hopefully* nice RV rig - thanks for the info!!
Few questions
1. Super C has air brakes. Do I need a CDL?
2. Tandem rear axles do I need to stop at the truck scales on the interstate
3. I get 200 gallons of diesel can I park in the trucker parking lot at Flying J or Pilots?
4. Is there a limit on my driving hours like a commercial driver?
5. Should I get a professional GPS system where I can input the Super C weight, width and height for low bridge obstructions
I’ve always “thought” the C was the way to go....now I know for sure. This will be the way I go when I’m ready.
I an, my wife are in our last 15 years of work she is a nurse for the navy and i am a state electrical engineer, for vdot of Virginia. Traveling is our future, if you have any of best moterhomes left by the time we do this we will be on appointed road trip to the show room to see if we are super c worthy.
Chuck, great to see you in a video again. I really don't have a need for such an RC as those you sell. If I did I'd 100% buy from you.
I just bought a class A Rv and he’s right about the ride and crazy feeling of fear while I drive this 32’ breadbox! I would love to trade it in even for a Veracruz
@@asma1405 I did get it well below market value, but my wife really loves it. I will trade it in a couple of years.
Wow, you are really getting good at making these videos. You don't keep repeating the same adjectives. The little things in a video make it watchable. I may be coming to see you in the near future.
What a fantastic presentation; very informative! Thank you.
B50 isn't to catastrophic engine failure, it is to "major service", which is defined as either the head or the pan needs to come off the engine.
OK I'm gonna say this only once. I could listen to you all day about RV's.
Wow I am blown away. I was about to pull the trigger with a Class A RV in Texas but after watching this and looking at their dealerships horrible reviews and lemon stories I will now get a super with your dealership only.
Same here. This is outstanding and I love your/his approach to explaining comprehensive aspects of these. Class A’s to me?: I feel like they attract way too much attention. Today you don’t want added attention and or jealous riff raff thinking you’re wealthy.
Love your straight up and honest business approach to the customer. Your customer.!!
Thx for doing such a great job at explaining your product. I want one to live in full time. Gotta budget it.
Same here.
I enjoyed this presentation very much. Could you do an updated version please. It's now July of 2023 and both classes have made drastic changes. How does interior space and exterior storage space compare for instance?
ive watched your videos and speaking interior wise there is little difference between a class a and class c [super] the real didderence is excatly what you explained the cab and accessibility
I enjoy your presentations, I do not currently own a Motorhome but that could change. I enjoy the feeling I get from listening to you talk of your business. As a former business owner and a person who spent a few years on motorhome lots as a salesman to learn about them, I most admire the integrity you seem to bring to the table. If and when the time comes to buy another, I feel a drive to Idaho would be an investment in peace of mind and a door to great adventure. Good luck and thanks.
You’ve changed my mind good valid points Class C for me in several months thank you sir for sharing valuable information sure appreciate!
Class A is better than Class C, you're right. But would have to say Class B wins hands down. For our family of four, we've found the same benefits with our Class B + we can drive it anywhere, including downtown NYC, for any length of time, for any reason at
Let me start off by saying thank you for your videos. I know nothing about RV's or the lifestyle or the problems that come from doing it, etc. etc. I have watched several of your videos on several different coaches, excellent descriptions and videography, so thank you. I just finished watching your 29 min super class c video. Superb, so apparently this is going to be the only way to go. I dont know if I have enough money or what not to try to do something like this, but I am extremely interested. My wife and I started a business a little over a year ago and it seems to be gaining a little traction. We are fairly young, I'm 42 and she is 37, so we could definitely put some miles on something. She is a bit of a priss, not that I mind, so all the amenities would be well received. Just wanted to drop you a line and let you know that I appreciate your in depth descriptions and videos. Thank you.
I recommend renting one for say 1-week. Getting gas, having to be more aware of fast food places so parking areas walking over for Food; standing in line drive thrus- due to Covid. Recommend diesel over gas. We are in the process of upgrading to Class C from current Class A. We want drivability and comfort.
Outstanding information. I don’t even own an rv but would fee comfortable after seeing this video buying, driving and living in one with my family.
You sold me except that pesky price
Yes, with a motorhome you may no longer need to make hotel reservations anymore but now need to make RV park reservations...... same problem....just in a different form....unless you boondocking or using Walmart parking lot or rest stop
Great sales pitch, you sold me.
Within the next year or so I'll be looking for a "Super Class C RV. I'll be looking you up.
I have a couple of questions.
#1 If I needed a tow, and I was towing a 20 to 30 foot "Stacker trailer" on a 45 foot Super Class C, how would it play out? Will I have to find another way to tow my trailer?
#2 Floor plan. I'm so sick and tired of the same ole floor plans. I don't know how many floor plans you all have, but I would like to take one of yours, and modify it to my specs, making a few changes. Can you do that?
Great video, very informative. Recently entered the market for an RV, and had only ever considered a Class A…until now. Your video clearly illustrates the advantages of the Class C or ‘Super C’ segment.
Much appreciated, thank you!
This is the best explanation of a style of motorhome I have ever seen. Very grateful... thank you.
Chuck, you're very enjoyable and qualified to watch on all these ads. Keep up the good work
This is so me, This is my dream life
MY TOO
Gentlemen I'm 70 and going to sell my home and buy an RV,We have those neighbors the ones south of Texas and just last night a party lasting till nearly 2:am, Today the flea market he does it for a living every weekend,cars line the street,loud music,park in our yards,zoning board came and done NADA!😡,We're nearly surrounded by them,Had more than enough!.
this is the best teacher/instructor on earth!
Chuck, what I really like about you is your style. You're a regular Guy, not a Spit and Polished on how you present your subject and you speak as a Customer first. I know it's a business and you have to make money but I'd have no problem buying from you. I want a Super so bad. We've talked about a Prevost but the Wife refuses to even think about it. I've looked at a "flashy" Nationwide dealer and I'm not playing that game. There're ignorant about it and it shows. We're 58 so I think we're close to you age wise and We have a great 24FT puller that we love but I want pull in and just Chill. I'm ready my Type "A" Wife is n't wants to keep working. Stinks a little when you're done with the work world but your wife loves her career and just wants to keep going. Hopefully sooner than later we'll be seeing you. One question,Are these Custom Builds and if so what's the time frame on getting one from start to finish, cash. Not a stroker?? I think that's correct.
Hi...Chuck, Before see this video, I do plan to purchase a Class C motorhome instead of a Class A. First of all, is about the Driver's License, as I only have a Class C license and Class A license need to pass DMV different tests to obtain one. Secondly, I do prefer to have the engine in front of me perhaps I have get used to drive an ordinary car in daily life for commute ... its a kind of " get used to " practise !
Lastly, I can say I totally agreed with your points of picking a Class C ! Thank You for sharing your experience with us !
Jake brake stage 1 is 2 cylinders. Stage 2 is four cylinders. Stage 3 is 6 cylinders for full engine braking.
This is great , was thinking of class A , changed my mind
I will be buying one soon and thanks 2 u know I'm more clear of what I want. I fall in love with the peterbilt one.
I doubt I will ever be able to afford a Renegade, but I appreciate your videos and hope to someday visit your facility. I look forward to every video you post and figure coming to Idaho is one of those things, like the going to the Grand Canyon and Niagara Falls, you should do in your lifetime.
For the cost of owning/maintaining a motor home we can stay in the best resorts. We take our time in driving see a nice place stop early enjoy. They do your laundry prepare meals different environment every night if you want to. No noisy neighbors. Easy parking of car or pickup. Good gas mileage and low insurance low depreciation. If I was to rent an RV. I would choose a Super C. I like their looks and handling. Michigan
Your kids already know where to find the Christmas presents in the storage bins. Don't let them fool you.
All the CONs for towing & getting work done in the motor just detoured me on buying a CLASS A!!
I really liked the space you started this video hating on... That extra 1.5 feet between driver an copilot doesn't seem that wide, but then I haven't been inside 1 to notice how big a problem it be. 🙄
Not sure why you decided to mostly compare a gas class A to a Diesel Class C. Might have been better to compare it to a Diesel pusher with a freightliner chassis and allison transmission.
In my past I drove tractor trailer, so all of this isn’t new, as for most others this is spot on, thank you for the video!
im totally sold on the i-pad totally genius chuck and the fact that renegade/ showhauler are the safest if you do not believe me run in to something at highway speed with a super c you might go to the hospital hit something with a class a its usually the cemetary
Hi just came across this video. Found it full of useful information on things i never had even thought of. So i have now subscribed to watch more of your videos. Thanks
I'm sure the super c's are nice, but I drive 3 rear engine buses, one of which is my personal Newmar and there are some things that aren't quite accurate. There needs to be a distinction between a diesel pusher class A and a front engine gasoline model.
Until the super C came out, the class A diesel pushers were the only buses out there that had industrial truck chassis'. They are the same as the new super c and also made by Freightliner among other big truck manufacturers and have been around for over 25 years. These haul well over "5,000" lbs. Most are over 10,000. I've never heard of a transverse mounted diesel pusher. Not saying they don't exist, just certainly not prevalent enough to be a point in an argument over class A or Super c.
Of the 3 pushers I drive, all different manufacturers, none are transverse. The engines are diesels just like the super c. The only thing that's different is where their mounted and the style of motorhome. The driving position certainly is different, but ever since I owned my 72 VW bus, I fell in love with the maneuverability and accuracy with which you can handle that type of vehicle when you sit over the wheels, you are not looking down over a long hood and you can very easily see how close you are to an object with your front end. Some, depending on chassis have a much tighter turning radius. Coincidentally, the bus I drive that's on the freightliner chassis has a turning radius I would swear is the same as my 4 door Silverado pickup.
I have never noticed the seating position to be an issue for communication. What I do like about it is that there is much more room for getting in and out of the seats, and they are on the same level as the living room, so you can just swivel them around and you have 2 additional seating spaces. All class A with diesel engines have full air brakes and air ride suspension with full gauging. Always have. You make a good point about the front engine in the Super c, I does seem like it would be easier to access, but I've never had a problem getting any RV or truck place to work on mine. I think the part about price being more is definitely true, but it's more for all diesels than gasoline and more for any RV than car or truck. They don't change labor rates for working on class A diesel versus class C and Cummins and freightliner etc are expensive no matter what.
I would be interested in driving a super c some time, but I don't think one is inherently better than the other. Both diesel, both truck chassis both have Jake brakes, both have Allison transmissions. They are just built for different needs. Class C is generally for those who have more than 2 people traveling most of the time. Class A tends to be for 2 people, with more, on occasion. Of course, this is not a hard and fast rule. They can be laid out any way that suits the buyer. It's just a matter of preference.
When I hit the lottery, now I know where to but my 1st motor home. My wife tells me that we aren't going to buy from anyone but you
You took the words right out of my mouth! If I was lucky enough to be able to buy one, I'd be on a plane to Mountain Home to buy it from Chuck! There are plenty of dealerships here in south Florida but just by watching his videos and the way he presents himself, his family and his business, he's the one I trust!!
@@chrisdunn3235 I couldn't agree with you more
i would trust the dt 12 trans for longevity over the Allison the Detroit engine can actually make more braking hp than towing hp. not just variable valve timing but adding the "fan on" and turbo spool up to pack more air in the cylinders.
most shops will not allow customers in the shop area due to insurance liability issues, so you cannot be in the rv when it is in the shop.
a wrecker must raise the front end of the towed vehicle to gain control of it. how high can you raise the rv before the tail drags?
Once I became aware if the C's advantages, I would 100 % agree they offer many advantages.
You guys offer 100 year financing? On a serious note, when I get my super C, I’ll be going to IWS because of Chuck.
I know you’re kidding but.... I think it can be financed for up to 30 years (dont quote me and it probably depends on the financing company). I know 10, 15, 20 for sure.
A Super C is most definitely safer than a Class A. The truck chassis in a Super C have been crash tested and you have all that hood and engine as a crumple zone vs riding right on top of the front bumper in a Class A.
The amount of horsepower to go up a hill is not the same as the amount of horsepower to come down the hill. If you're going 65mph, then you have to overcome both the hill (gravity) and air resistance. When going down the hill you have to overcome the hill (gravity) but this time air resistance is working for you holding back your vehicle. So many times you'll have to release the Jake brake a few times or run at 1 or 2 instead of 3.
All right, seen enough, take these things out on the road and do the things they do, that would be a channel worth viewing. Thanks
Super C’s are Fantastic,We love ours !
which one did you buy? when?
I've been driving busses for years,infelt weird when I drove a class c I was messing up on my turns lol
Awesome video Chuck, can't wait to visit your dealership to check out your inventory! Keep Inspiring and enjoy the moments!
Thanks - excellent video and learned a lot more about the differences and important considerations. This was extremely helpful to me. Cheers!
Thank you Chuck For Describing the Difference.you are Amazing.😊😊👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I don’t have a motorhome right now but I am looking for one. This is all good to know so when I do go buy one. Thank you for this video.
Very thorough, well done! From a biker/trucker perspective 👍👍
What are your thoughts on the newer, smaller Super C motorhomes? Many of them are using the International MV or Freightliner chassis, with the 6-7 liter Cummins engines.
Is a commercial license required?
Very informative makes a lot of sense
Very nicely done - We have been trying to decide between A and super C and are leaning more to the super C after doing 2 years of homework. Our biggest concern is the many videos coming out about the RVs coming out of the showroom new with a ton of problems before you ever start out. I wish the quality control was better at the factories - One question to you for your opinion, If we get the super c, with a bath and 1/2, what is your thought of us taking out the bath components and making it into a walk in pantry or clothing closet? - Thanks :)
This has been on my Wish List ever since saw the first one here in Langley, BC, and having driven air brake equipped vehicles for 43 years, I would be buying one of these hands down. the one question that I would like answered... can you choose your layout...???
Next time I see a Renegade XL parked in the Boise Towne Square parking lot... I’ll know who it is! Love it Chuck!
Thore c550 duramax 2006 180,000 fun mover 2 slides. . Runs strong. What's yr thought on this rt you stated Renaga, & other are best?? I'm new to class c but feel much safer then A. As you state. Please reply on my couch & year. Reliability
They should give a schedule for RVs. There’s no way waiting 35k for an oil change is a good idea. I have a 10 year-old RV with 35k miles.
Big truck specs, big truck costs. $1k oil changes, $10k tire sets...
The bigger the RV, the fewer places you can park it. With a big RV, your view out the window will always be acres of other big RVs. With a Class B, you have a lot more choices, such as BLM areas.