Ainz vs Sukuna
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Sorceror King vs the King of Curses! I'm a huge fan of Overlord and JJK so this one was tough! Feel free to disagree and state your opinions below! A like and sub would be appreciated.
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Sukuna when ains pulls out the gogo gadget cash shop anti durabaility negation item:
Ainz would probably call sukuna a noob for not using protection against time magic 😂
@@zach9533 yeah I decided to rule out time magic because it makes the fight less interesting and says there’s lots of counters
@ yeah I heard you talk about it right after I sent my message 😂
Transformed Sakuna wouldn't be able to get close enough to Ainz. Ainz would keep sending him flying with knockback staff
@@Darbzila that’s a good point actually. I completely forgot about that 😂
Ainz can also teleport and he can summon 2 level 90 undead as his meat shield.
Ainz whoops sukuna and it's not even close especially when sukuna let's him prep
@@raidenpainn1561 giving ainz prep is like giving Batman prep
@chwyskn it goes from bad for sukuna to impossible
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Ainz would win rather easily, you had to nerf some of his cheat like magic. I think power scaling is best when it’s within their own universe. Characters have power relataive to their own media after all.
@@JustSomeWeirdo yeah but it’s also super fun to just compare random people I like at least to me, thanks for watching!
@@chwyskn True
Ainz destroys.
Yeah their kits are really unfair you’d have to do some extreme mental gymnastics to say sukuna wins
Nah ainz would win.
@@cloudjin893 I agree
can you do yuji vs kashimo
@ibrahimmakadji6039 I’ll definitely consider it!
@@chwyskn thanks man
Coughing baby (Sukuna) vs Hydrogen bomb (Ainz)
Sorry but I disagree with how scaled Sukuna, now let me make it clear that I've never read/watched "Overlord" so I'm not saying Ainz couldn't win just pointing out what you got wrong about Sukuna.
1. In chapter 237 a heavily weakened Sukuna (in his Megumi form) was able to react to and dodge "Mythical Beast: Amber" Kashimo's EM wave blast at point blank range which would put him at light speed in terms of reaction and combative speeds and Sukuna is faster when he fully incarnates into his true form which undoes the physical damage that is placed on his body and he would even faster if he was at 100% of his full output.
There is a higher end scaling for Sukuna's combat speed through Gojo's teleportation. Base off the original japanese text from JJK which is (瞬間移動/Shunkan Utsuri dō) it translates to "instantaneous teleportation" (according to Google translate), and Gojo is able to use it in close quarter combat in chapter 231 and keep in mind that Gojo would have to physically and mentally be able to process what's going on when he is moving at those speeds in quick succession in close quarter combat and the fact that Sukuna is still able to keep up with him saids a lot about his speed.
This is even supported in chapter 15 and episode 7 of season 1 when Gojo deflated a sure-hit attack from Jogo's domain, granted it was just a singular attack that was coming from one direction and not it being multiple attacks coming at Gojo omnidirectionally but the fact that Gojo can respond to and counter it like that does support Gojo and Sukuna (who scales to Gojo) having instantaneous combat speeds.
2. There are three ways to scale Sukuna's strength and power.
(Low-end scaling)
In chapter 221 after Gojo was unsealed from the prison realm he finds himself 8,000 meters underwater in the "Japanese Trench" in the "Subduction Zone" which is important since that is where tectonic plates dive back into the mantle of the earth, and he would have been getting crushed by two tectonic plates diving back into the mantle thus he would have had to physically push the plates apart in order to leave and met up with Kenjaku and by doing this he created an earthquake that reached all the way to the "Saitama Prefecture" and the calculations for this feat from "VS BATTLE WIKI" puts it around 4.204942e+19 to 2.364613e+20 joules or island levels of power.
In Goji-Chronic's "Ryomen Sukuna vs Nicole Watterson" video had a calc that brought Gojo's earthquake to around 1.61453537E+23 joules or 38.588 teratons of TNT (country level) which is backed up by other calcs in the video for other characters.....
Sukuna clearing the sky in his fight with Makora in season 2 episode 17: 3.601E+18 joules or 860.646 megatons of TNT (mountain level+) to 617156124E+20 joules or 147.503854 gigatons of TNT (large island level).
Hana using Jacob's ladder (with both arms) on Sukuna in chapter 213: 4.33142375E+22 joules or 35 teratons of TNT (country level)
Uraume effortlessly created a snow storm in chapters 236 and 237: 5.4 teratons of TNT (small country level+)
(Mid-end scaling).
The durability/toughness/HP of JJK characters scales higher than their AP which is proven through "Black Flash" which in chapter 48 stated that impact of it is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5 which is insane.
Example 1: Geto took a black flash from Yuta to the face and not only survived but was still able to keep on fighting. In JJK 0 it was stated that Rika could have destroyed a whole town (I personally think this downplays their power since Rika scales above the Disaster Curses but for the sake of argument I'll roll with it) but they never said how big the town was so I will scale this by starting from the low to mid to high end scaling.
(Numbers of joules come from VS BATTLE WIKI)
Small town level
4.184×10^12 to 2.42672×10^13 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^31 to 2.901×10^33 joules: small planet to planet level.
Town level
2.42672×10^13 to 4.184×10^14 joules ^2.5 = 2.901×10^33 to 3.58079×10^36 joules: planet to large planet level.
Large town level
4.184×10^14 to 4.184×10^15 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^36 to 1.132×10^39 joules: large planet to darf star level.
Keep in mind that Kenjaku who had possession of Geto's body was going to be killed by Gojo in one punch and Sukuna effortlessly blocked it, this tells us that Gojo and Sukuna's AP and durability/ HP scale extremely higher than the other JJK characters.
Further evidence that supports this is in fact that in chapter 208 Tengen was powerful enough to suppress half of Yuki's black hole which has been calculated to be around large planet to dwarf star level, and Kenjaku stated that the earth would've been destroyed if not for both Tengen's barrier and Yuki's will suppressing it which means that if Tengen didn't help in suppressing it the earth would have still been destroyed, and before people say that it was hax and it doesn't scale to her keep in mind that not long after Tengen helped suppress half of Yuki's black hole she is shown in a heavily weakened state from suppressing it thus her barrier's strength scale to her physical body as well. And both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than Tengen is, thus they would not only scale to Tengen's feat but above it as well.
Example 2: Hanami is comparable in strength to Jogo whose "Maximum: Meteor" was stated it can turn a town and its surroundings to ashes and dust (according to the "official JJK fan book"). According to "VS BATTLE WIKI" the AP of the Meteor would be around 8.3086954e+23 joules or around large country levels of power. Yuji was able to keep up with her in their fight so he too would scale to it, thus Yuji's Black Flashes would be around multi-solar system levels of AP and Hanami took five of them and was still able to keep on fighting after that. We all know Gojo would have been able to effortlessly one shot her without having to give it his all.
(High-end scaling)
In chapter 234 Gojo used "Maximum Output: Blue" to destroy "Chimera Beast: Agito" who earlier in the chapter survived a Black Flash from Gojo, and while the Black Flash did tore a hole in its gut the shikigami was able to effortlessly heal from it where with the MO: Blue it wasn't able to do so. This tells us that both Gojo and Sukuna's maximum techniques are not only able to match but surpass the output of a Black Flash, further evidence supports this with Gojo's "Unlimited Hollow Purple" being able to obliterate Makora who was able to take two Black Flashes from Gojo and didn't sustain anywhere near the same level of damage that Agito did from just one Black Flash from Gojo. Thus by adding this to the scaling above you would get both Gojo and Sukuna's AP to around "solar system levels" to "multi-galaxy levels" to "universal levels' of power.
Chapter 219 supports this with a character named Yorozu who was able to create a "True Sphere" with her "Curse Technique: Construction" which is creating infinite pressure, and before people say that it is hax that doesn't scale to her directly chapter 42 and episode 17 of season 1 states that "Curse Technique: Construction" can put strain on the body of the caster as shown when their nose is bleeding and the fact that Yorozu could still be able to use "Domain Expansion" after creating the True Sphere shows just how powerful she is and both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than her.
Damn! I can tell you know your stuff. thanks for replying. The em wave argument is never used because sukuna could've aim dodged so lightspeed is usually out of the question, and would never be used unless you're trying to wank sukuna as high as possible. As far as the ap argument you're saying shibuya yuji is multi solar system because he's relative to hanami whos relative to jogo and that somehow upscale yujis punches? that doesn't correlate to me and neither does saying these people are solar system level by using black flashes exponential scaling on feats that cant be black flash amped, you'd be assuming their punches are maximum technique level and that also only makes their ap that high when they're black flashing which Sukuna wouldn't be able to do in this fight anyway
@chwyskn
1. The problem is that Sukuna's facial expressions tells us that he was taken by surprise by Kashimo's increased speed and attack s when he entered into his "Mythical Beast Amber" mode thus telling us that Sukuna didn't aim-dodged the attack but was responding to it the moment it was fired.
Also considering how much ground Sukuna covers when dodging the EM wave blast when it hit the ground as well as the fact that Sukuna had yet to land on the ground before the EM wave blast hit the ground Sukuna was standing on before dodging tells us that Sukuna most likely didn't move that much earlier than the attack if not at all.
2. I'm not saying that Yuji during the "Goodwill Even Arc" has "solar system level" AP since he was only able to reach that level through Black Flash which it's power output is an exponent of 2.5 that of his normal strikes, but what I will say is that Yuji's durability as well as his endurance through "Cursed Energy Reinforcement" is on that level since during the "Shibuya Arc" Yuji was able to survive a Black Flash from Mahito and was still able to keep on fighting and that Yuji wasn't even trying to defend himself against at the time he was having a mental breakdown from looking at Nobara's lifeless body. It was even further proven in chapter 257 when Yuji took a Black Flash from Sukuna by blocking it with his right arm.
3. Again in chapter 234 Gojo used "Maximum Output: Blue" to destroy "Chimera Beast: Agito" who earlier in the chapter survived a Black Flash from Gojo, and while the Black Flash did tore a hole in its gut the shikigami was able to effortlessly heal from it where with the MO: Blue it wasn't able to do so. This tells us that both Gojo and Sukuna's maximum techniques are not only able to match but surpass the output of a Black Flash, further evidence in chapter 235 supports this with Gojo's "Unlimited Hollow Purple" being able to obliterate Makora who earlier in the chapter was able to take two Black Flashes from Gojo and didn't sustain anywhere near the same level of damage that Agito did from just one Black Flash from Gojo.
@ the light speed feat isn’t clear enough him being surprised and you assuming he isn’t touching the ground doesn’t make it a legitimate feat and kashimos hand is in his face all he had to do at that point was move there’s nothing in that page showing it was already fired and sukuna dodged it. You’re scaling people’s ap based of an exponential increase on a maximum technique, you are saying that a punch has the same force as jogos maximum meteor then giving it an exponential increase then later arguing that the maximum techniques are actually stronger it’s contradictory the way you’re upscaling their ap makes no sense
@chwyskn
1. It is clear enough that Sukuna was surprised when you see the way he reacted to when Kashimo used "Mythical Beast Amber" and as well as when he used the EM wave blast right in Sukuna's face, and it's not an assumption when you look carefully at his shadow beneath his feet.
Also when you look more closely at how the EM wave blast was drawn right up in Sukuna's face it's quite clear that it was already fired off rather than it charging up, and the fact that Sukuna was fast enough to respond to it and dodge it at point blank range proves my point
2. I think you are misinterpreting what I was doing, if you look back at my comment you'll see that I've placed it in three scaling formats which are low-ball, mid-ball, and high-ball respectively.
Also I have only scaled Yuji's normal strikes to Jogo's Maximum Meteor in the mid-ball section since Yuji scales to Hanami who scales to Jogo, and the reason Yuji's punches could be at those levels is the fact that he is able to hold his own against "Special Grade Cursed Spirits" with just his physical strength combined with "Cursed Energy Reinforcement" since throughout the majority of the series Yuji didn't have a Cursed Technique of his own thus making him one of the very few exceptions in this regard.
ainz wins mid diff depending on spell stacking/knocknack staff/how sukuna handles the fight (hes cocky)
@@сешбој even mid diff is being generous imo ainz has instant death magic black hole magic and time stops
@@chwyskn u right bro just has too many spells 😂
ainz vs ichigo?
@ ill have to look into bleach scaling ik its convoluted and i havent consumed anything bleach related since tybw manga ended
@@сешбој Ainz has 700 different spells lol
if Ainz had nps bro would get jumped
@@rexazi4293 yeah the whole of Nazarick vs sukuna is outmatched entirely it’d be more even to say all of jjk versus Nazarick
time stop + true death solos all of JJK combined
Kind of tough to adapt to instant death
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Got you man
is your pfp mobster ainz?
@BritishGentleman why yes it is sir British gentleman
If you watch some of my live streams my png is ainz in a tophat
@@chwyskn whats the stream schedule
@BritishGentleman its a bit erratic im working on a set schedule!
@@chwyskn alrighty gang, i will keep my eyes peeled
Ainz can spam wcs sukuna can’t and that’s sukuna strongest attack
Sukuna is a Improved version of Hisoka
Learn to spell before you make declarations.
@@Zeromegas uh what
@@chwyskn Both have in surface Basic Techniques but the real threat of them is their creativity to use it and ruthless disposition in combat
@@error-4269 Sorry, english is not my native language and i have big fingers. I wrote it in my phone. :/
@@Zeromegas that is a good point I thought you meant narratively and was super confused lol
Fire elemental solos the verse
Get them past gazef stronof first