Facts on him moving around. I’m from Atl and Nip used to be out here like 09-10’ when 90% of the club wasn’t even bobbing their head. But he was fucking around with the hoods out here, putting in that ground work and ppl grew to love him because of it. The rest of them cats are too biased and are local jokers
All these excuses , man west coast music does not travel well and when yall see people not from the west jamming to yall music yall start complaining "yall not from the west"
Thats LA mfrs. bay artists get the most love in Portland and Seattle, which is for sure the west coast. LA is too stuck on gangbangin, the shit thats poppin there like lefty gunplay and X4 just arent good at all
Y’all need to start coming out east and hanging out and getting to know the DJs and producers and touching the people. I’m from Florida and my hood was going crazy too Jacka and mobb figaz, we grew up on snoop and Dre, and we vibe to Nip. Kalan Frfr was signed with First Class Ent and the guy who owns it is from around my way in Florida so we do fw the music from out West. Cali is too insulted and political and if you go to other markets you can get away from the politics and get the sound out there. Kendrick got y’all on a wave right now, All you gotta do is ride it.
It aint our fault the streets gutter when it comes to flashy ass outta town rappers come here sayin they wish someone would try to rob em. Cant do that. And cant use nip as an example cause his demise is due to some hood politics
Naw bruh it’s simple, West Coast artists stay on the West , they don’t really travel to other cities. June poppin outside the west because he make moves on the east & in the south.
And he not a regional sounding artist. He can go do a full tape with alchemist beats and go crazy cause he not stuck on the sound out west like alot of them artists are.
The West Coast ran the 90s and had brief moments in the 2000s where it FAILED to capitalize on shit that went national or international like the hyphy or jerking/ratchet era. The issue is Kendrick gotta lead the wave and bring ppl on in the process like he doin rn with the West Coast sound and slappers. The Game messed up beefing with the wrong ones otherwise he could have done it since he had a real wave at one point. Ppl fuckin with shit like Dody6 verse on "Hey Now" or Hitta verse and the top songs in the world rn feature West Coast productions from a West Coast artist. We know YG was able to cross over and if Nip don't get got who knows where this at rn. The West gotta real opportunity to put aside politics when it comes to the music and get this chili while the iron is hot especially since Mustard back outside killin it
Cali not rapping out getting no money. I mean….where the hustlers at. The black culture in Cali is still a mystery to outsiders. No real soul in the music either.
Have you ever looked at a map of LA county? Where is it so divided? The politics was created by red lining and it just carried over generation after generation.
The West Coast is not just LA. If you wanna hear some real good music, try listening to Bay Area or Northern California artists. Mozzy to me is still the best rapper in California. Larry June is one of the favorites also. Anyone has recommendations for artists in San Diego?
Mozzy is “The Fella.” You’re right he really is the best rapper and has mass appeal. I think his cases/jail hold him back every time it’s time for him to breakout.
Saying the West Coast will always be funny cause it's really just California lol, ain't no one really coming from places like Vegas, Seattle or Phoenix.
Every region made music for their state lol so that logic doesn’t make sense. The world was not listening to Detroit music at first. When jeezy signed DBCO , they used to laugh at their music because nobody understood it yet unless you was into it. Now that’s the sound.
This era is about 808s, drill, singing and rapping with melodies bro. The past era of hiphop was drill, aint nobody tryna hear westcoast 90's early 2000's type bops with the outdated synth basses. Everybody out of cali look at the west like we still stuck in the jerk era
Im gonna be real, us Midwest peoples always messed wit the west coast...when I grew up in Ohio, we always pumped NWA, Ice-T, Too Short and many more before the East Coast got on. This also why Easy-E managed Bone-Thugs and Harmony and Dr. Dre picked up Eminem...the love has always been there from us...but at the same time, we also know the rap money runs thru the East Coast and South these days
It's the music and the cadences.. a lot of LA or Cali artist can't make music outside of that sound and those who do don't get love or promoted by the city
Bingo. And I'm from TX. I feel kind of the same way about us. Dallas & Houston kind of pegioned holed itself. Yeah there's Meagan. But I think that has more to do with the current wave of female rappers. And Travis Scott went beyond whatever the world thought of TX. What I think it's weird is that NY rappers who rip off the Southern sound now did it with better ease than any Westcoast rapper. I feel like L.A. and The Bay don't want to change, like we do in TX, because we don't have to. Our sate populations are both at 30 million or above. Sauce Walka, for all his goofiness and antics, probably does ok in other states. But he kills it in TX.
LA will never be the forefront again but I do think there needs to be more respect but LA is just sooo different that people are never going to get it. It’s an acquired taste. They do need to support each other more and make that unity STRONG. Make mfs wanna be there and be from there.
If you could do a tape with Dom, Hit, Larry, Pac Div, Buddy, and various upcomers With Mike & Keys, yourself(DJ Hed), Cardo as the producers. It would be beneficial cause these artists can get inspiration and learn how others create & curate a soundtrack in the process.
One thing that's annoying about this narrative that ppl dont fuck with West Coast rap is the lack of accountability. Nipsey absolutely was about to be that guy in a mainstream way because he'd already planted his flag in so many other places. Yes, he was an LA dude to the core, but he embraced other regions with love. I used to see Nipsey all the time in NY. I heard about him being in grimy gambling spots in Brooklyn too. His sound was specific to his coast, but he never hid his admiration for New York. Succa Proof is a straight up east coast song with west coast lyrics. That reggae production is straight Brooklyn. You get further exchanging culture vs trying to push yours only. Ppl expect alot from NY without understanding the mentality of NY. Aint no hand holding in NY. You gotta grind & hit that mixtape circuit, period! NIpsey did all of that, which is why Kay Slay fucked with him as well as DJ Envy & Clue. NY artists don't even get played if they arent grinding. The music is good, but sometimes the attitude is too stand offish. It's like y'all aren't used to networking. Notice Nip's Rap Niggas video had him in NY and LA!
The west Coast sonics just dont hit like that no more..Kendrick and Tyler aint traditional, also the Game wasnt either...YG was prolly the last but he too had to link up with Jeezy...Roddy also had to sound like a southern ninja to blow up.
You naming mainstream artist actually proves the point that ppl just don’t know the artist in the first place. I can name 20 underground artist in Baton Rouge but someone can’t name 20 from la. That’s like me just only knowing boosie and Kevin gates lol
What is that man talking about? Either yall weird or the music trash. People outside of the west coast fw Mozzy, Westside Boogie, Dom Kennedy, Nip and Larry June. Save the think pieces. Its not a conspiracy. Yall dont produce a lot of heat and thats ok.
West coast just need to keep doing them and dont worry about if the east,south like em or not cuz when the east make a song we dont worry if the west like it everything has its time the south had now the west got it even Canada had a little run thats just the way it is
Don’t know and can’t relate in Texas Detroit are my second homes and I don’t sound like LA so that also helps Every doja cat , Tyler the creators and others make it out of LA
Blue Bucks Clan, Dom Kennedy, G Perico, Mozzy, Shoreline mafia , Rucci, Drakeo, Kendrick, YG, Larry June, Jay Worthy, Alchemist , and Niko G4 all have strong fanbases outside of Cali . Ppl don’t wanna hear that old school west coast shit no more. Y’all refusing to evolve just like the bubble gum shit in New York. It’s a new era adapt or die.
Valid points but alot of yapping going on here. The truth is the overwhelming majority of up and coming LA artists are trash and the music doesn't resignate outside of their neighborhood. If the music is good people will find it. They sound like watered down versions of YG and YG is ridiculously mid.
Man im from thee westcoast we really dont support each other especially thee new celebs inculding this channel imma be clear IM 4rm WATTS We Have it thee hardest but thee truth if cali stuck together and supported each other we would really win
The Hip Hop/Rap scene/street culture in the WestCoast is just played out, from the music, down to the gangbanging lifestyle, that dominates everybody down there. Nothing about the WestCoast has changed since it's start from the 1970's and 1980's. Khakis and Gangbanging, and lowriders. Everybody down there is basically stuck in a time loop, from back in the day, and the sound and lifestyle has never progressed into anything remotely different, like it has in the South and the EastCoast. Meaning that, Young new rappers from Texas and Louisiana, don't sound or look like RapAalot or No Limit artists. The same goes for How this generation of rappers from Memphis and Florida, don't sound like their older rappers from their States. Moneybagg, Gotti, Dolph and P.R.E don't sound like 3-6 Mafia. Even in Florida, Plies, Gimbo, Nino Breeze, Rick Ross, don't sound like 2 live crew or jt money. Now listen to this carefully, they implemented some of the old sounds from back then, but they advanced it by incorporating new different flows and cadences, while elevating a better sound to how their regional sound use to sound. Kendrick sound isn't 100% WestCoast, but it is now, because he's purposely making WestCoast music, to prove a point, to support his coast. But it's nothing regional about Swimming Pools, Loyalty, Love Me, Black Panther soundtrack, poetic justice, etc. You can throw Game and Nip in their as well. Meaning that Gangbanging will always be apart of their culture, but the sound and marketability of the rapper, has to transcend outside your region, in order for people that aren't from your city and state, to like or love you. Look at Atlanta, jeezy, gucci, migos, lil baby, young thug, gunna, don't sound like or dress up, like Outkast or Goodie Mobb or like a SoSo Def artist from back in the day. Even the OG's in this video don't understand or get it. Homie just said, nobody will ever understand or get it. Nope, yall older og,s on the west definitely don't understand what's been going on in the South. Our Sound and look is constantly changing and progressing every 5 to 10 years, and that's a huge reason why we've dominated rap for the past 30 years nonstop. Plus we don't have gangbanging politics that hinders or stop the advancement and progression of our new artists coming up, like y'all. If Nip and Draeko the rulers don't get killed because of gang politics, and take away the politics all together, so they could do with business with yg, Kendrick, mustard, hitboy, philthyrich, mozzy, while progressing the sound to a newer sound. Then yall could be the South 2.0 as far as dominating the rap industry. But all of yall are stagnant because yall don't want to change the sound nor throw away the gang politics. So yall are about to be crying and complaining for another 10 to 20 years, while hitting switches and bumping More Bounce To The Ounce, or some old Dr Dre and Snoop. Also, the OG Debo mentality of the gangbangers, has turned alot of us off about Cali too. 2 Pac, Biggie, Nip, Pop Smoke, PNB Rock, and a few more have been killed on the WestCoast. Add to the fact, yall think that everybody has to check in with yall old crash dummy og,s to be protected and then extorted. Simply because they never did nothing with their life for 40 to 65 years, is super out of this world crazy. The entire energy of going down there, is the same as Chicago, it's feels negative and depressing because of the gangbanging culture that surrounds us in those cities, which is black people. None of that BS is happening in the SOUTH, and you can make money down here and come and go everywhere as you please, just as long as you don't starr up drama or beef. People are excited to travel to Florida, Texas, Georgia, and Louisiana, and Memphis. It's a open market, that's not dominated by gang politics and crab n a barrel mentality. I bet my life, that no rappers are happy to kick it in L.A. anymore like how people love and enjoy being in the South. Hanging around in 110% Heat, with alot of broke ninjas in Khakis with oldschool cars, talking about whos the hardest and who gotta check in, in order to come do business down there, iS NOT EXCITING OR ANTICIPATED TO GO BE AT OR HANG AT. some of my family is from their, and i never understood the hype L.A. would get, when it comes to black people. Hollywood is the only thing that's keeping it afloat right now. You would have to gut and change the entire culture and mindframe of the WestCoast, but it's not going to change any time soon by the way how they talk. They love that old raggedy death trap of the gangbanging mentality with dusty khakis and old broke down cars with hydraulics lol. Everybody called is slow, but we've dominated Hip Hop/Rap for decades now, while everybody else has stayed stagnant mentally, musically, and physically. So who was really slow, because everybody and they mommas been moving to the South, meanwhile, nobody don't want to set foot in Cali. Just to be broke because of the cost of living, while dealing with the gangbanging nonsense. Who TF wants to deal with that? It's all about the South, like Pimp C use to say, we having thangs down here.
Love the Westcoast for sure. It's all about finding your pocket and groove. The Westcoast has just as much versatility as any other region. Just tap into your unique vibe and make it digestible.
The real reason Cali artists are not making it out is because of gang politics. Look at all the rising artists: Nispey, Drakeo, Young Slo-be, Bris. All of the big up and coming names died due to gang politics. A lot of the artists in Cali that are poppin now don’t leave the West Coast with the exception of Larry June.
@ I totally disagree. LA and California in general has influenced the culture so much I don’t think you even notice it, because it’s so deeply embedded now. The fact people make music specifically for you to ride around to and play real loud in them old schools. That’s California and Dr Dre. Most of our slang is from the Bay Area. It’s so crazy people don’t even realize it. I grew up in the 90s everyone was and atill are trying t be fake LA gangsters. Weed culture it stems from California.
@@ptyten9718you missed his point he is saying that a minority of people is driving LA culture. So much that other groups are embracing the influence but not citing sources. The bay people are from the bay. Asian,black and Hispanic. While in LA is sectional af
This is a True Story, so I was living down south. (Wait Sidebar): I was listening to nipsey hussle mixtape 'Crenshaw' in real time in 2013. I was following Nip and his team work ethic via social media throughout the years prior to 2013 as well. Fast forward, Nip passed and a young man that was from Cali came down south and was riding on my van. He out of no where told me that I just started repping Nip now and I don't know nip like that. I didn't say nothing, but he said other things that was unnecessary. Mind you he didn't know anything about my music choice, upbringing, life, nothing. Cali guys are very eager to write their narratives and it can be their biggest write off for themselves sometimes, because they're emotionally impulsive and don't sit and think it through. I followed Nip journey online. It was cool to see him just be regular dude who just happens to do music like the rest of us artists. The West has social media like the rest of the world. Believe in yourselves more, grow and explore other parts to yourself as a human and evolve. Gotta grow yourselves or else you'll be stuck in a loop. That goes for the world too. Dj Hed cannot say what won't be accepted. I'm from the south, and I've been listening to west coast artists since I was a kid in the 90's. I like to hear west coast artist tell their real story. I just want to see them evolved as a human too, so that the music can reflect it. I believe their is a stunt in growth from peers, elders, and that makes the coast looks stuck. You gotta get out and get around people outside of gang culture, and grow as humans. To see what the world outside of themselves are saying that makes sense to get through to you about. They have the key, they gotta unlock it for themselves.
BINGO!! First, WHOLE lot of talent on the West. But... The guys from the West's perspective is skewed and they don't even know it. Its like nothing exists to them outside of the west and gang culture/politics. The music reflects that. Also, only their viewpoint is valid. It comes off as arrogant. What everyone else thinks or listens to doesn't matter. This mentality permeates from Hollywood all the way down to Crenshaw. To sum it up, LA is kind of stuck in a bubble that they don't know they're in... and they don't care to leave it.
That's not true big bro it's the same here where I'm from in Minneapolis Minnesota. We have a amazing talent, and I have watched some of their interviews, and it's like some of them all say the same thing nobody wants to come together it feels like everybody hates on everybody.
Cali music aside from Kendrick , Tyler , nip and the OG seems like immature high school music they don’t talk about getting money , problems in the community, etc it’s just gang bang which hip hop today is mainstream so barely anybody cares outside your city
Lived in Cali, grew up in Houston. Im Mexican and LA is cool but its not as connected like the south is. LA, Tijuana, San Diego, IE, Phoenix and Vegas is about it for that sound. Houston got Monterrey, Matamoros, Reynosa, DFW, Austin, the RGV, Oklahoma, San Antonio, New Orleans, Atlanta, Florida, Mississippi and Alabama. Its all connected in the south. That new orleans bounce/cumbia/crunk/miami bass/Norteño/Tejano sound gets a lot of play down here. Its about dancing down south. Cumbia and NO Bounce gets played in all the clubs/strip clubs from Miami to san Antonio.
I think it has more to do with the culture itself. No matter where you are from if you are just a figurehead for the area your popularity peaks in that area. If you want to stand outside of that you have to be more than that. Tyler is an LA artist who doesn’t sound like an LA Artist. Rocky is a NY artist who doesn’t sound like the rest of New York. Kanye doesn’t sound like Chicago. Etc etc there are always artist that break the mold and are largely celebrated as artist everywhere. Not just labeled as west or east coast artist you feel me. If you want to refer to the culture as your own source of inspiration that’s fine but like Unc said it’s never gonna be understood the same way in other regions or countries outside the us
Its very simple. GANG BANGING. Peep: 1. Yall speak about gang politics and issues that only yall understand. 2. Yall speak gang lingo that only yall understand. 3. Yall can only collab with certain people and support certain people due to politics. That makes it hard to create a hood following in your own city. Its not the fashion, sound etc. theres mad westcoast artists that make it big, BECAUSE THEY NOT GANGED OUT IN THEY MUSIC. And all this “everybody hate the west” narrative is BS and it turns people off. Of course theres gona be bias and political ties in the industry, but yall be sounding like victims. Hate that. KDOT just made an LA Centric album with LA sounds, clothes etc. but it was hot and people could make sense of it… Get on the grind!
Man kut the 🧢. All these niggas from Atlanta to Memphis to Detroit to Florida to Texas ALL talk bout shit people outside of those cities/states know nothing about. They have different lingo but it’s a problem when we do it
@@KHY_001because y’all are 7% black. Atlanta is 50% black. So with the numbers everybody doesn’t have to like you. In LA gang politics makes that 7% smaller. I’m from Atlanta and live in LA and that’s mainly the difference. Some songs are so west coast they don’t translate well to the rest of the nation. Atlanta has music like that too but it’s not trying to be mainstream.
I think the East/West beef really messed up the money for a lot of LA rappers for at least a generation. It took the Game joining G-Unit for people to pay attention to west coast rappers again. And then he fumbled the bag beefing with 50. I think the LA artists who’ve blown up recently (Kendrick, Tyler, etc.) did so because of the internet and blogs like DatPiff. But the West Coast isn’t just LA; the Bay Area/Sac have a handful of rappers who are also experiencing a good deal of success (Larry June, Mozzy, etc.)
LA needs to transition outta that gangbanging shit, it had a run in the 90s but now it looks dusty. They should’ve embraced the skater shit Tyler was on
Naw that will never happen. Gangbanging will never die, it's rooted to deep in cali culture which is then tied in with Chicano culture and Chicano culture is tied in with mexican culture.
Lol I’m from Atlanta, but telling them to “get outta gang banging” is crazy lol. That sht is not a phase😂, it’s real life n sum authentic sht.. Now blending the sound a little, maybe.
@@juice.globalit’s part of the problem that they can’t get out of this hole they’re in.. Cali gangbanging outside of LA looks burnt out to everyone else. It doesn’t sell
I’m going be honest every city has the same thing going on with their music but I’m from dc I don’t listen to west coast music because it’s too slow and yall do like abc rap
All these excuses....Its like asking Why battle rappers can't break through and make good albums or songs. Make good music and the cream will rise to the top.
To say it'll never be accepted isn't true because in the 90s it was accepted by the masses. Things comes in seasons it's some other regions turn right now. When i was a teenager Atlanta was poppin
man stfu lol, respectfully. the west coast has hella talent. but yessss, y'all haven't ben popping in a min but the early 90s & mid 90s was y'all"s time, y'all n the east coast use to shit on the south. intel andre3000 had to pop out n show niggas on stage "the south got some say''. late 90s to now. the south has ben on top ever since & still is. Kenny did put the west coast back on board but dont act like y'all dint run shit once lol. especially in the early 10's TDE was on top fr.
Rappers need to stop making where they from their whole identity. That’s why Kendrick and Tyler blew up their music was unique to them and not where they’re from.
West coast, ya can start by NOT pronouncing your Rs in the music. We know ya talk mad proper, compared to the rest of the country. Eazy E used to pronounce Mark as “Mawk” in his music for example. Also, TRAVEL more. We get it, Cali is the biggest state, but there’s a world outside of Cali. Tap in and network with artists & journalists from different parts of the country. That’s what we New Yorkers do to. We be everywhere. Whether it’s ATL, Miami, LA, Dubai, etc…
Even other places only have a couple good artist from each city, stop caring 1 state to a whole country worth of artist, every city has low view up and coming artist it’s not just Cali
These losers are so busy attempting to intimidate that they have no idea how to welcome in. Certain artist understand but many don't. Always crying and attempting to force folks to play their trash. Then they want to extort artist as they come out here. You cannot play both sides and the idiotic gang shit is what will always hold Southern Cali back for the most part. World has evolved and they're still stuck in that 80-early 90's mindset on their third, fourth and fifth childhoods.
bro yall can bring up west coast artists on everyday of the week i aint gonna listen bc yall all trying sound the same and the ‘different ones’ they just try to rap all lyrical ona old westcoast beat
The West does not need to appeal to other regions; otherwise, the music will be wack. I live on the East Coast now, but I am from the West. I can not get into any other music. We grew up with music programs with a lot of instrumentation in the West. No other region has anyone like Dre, DJ Quik, or Terrance Martin. To me, other regions do not make good music like the West.
West Coast not rapping bout selling Dope or getting money no more. Most of the black hoods in the United States all about hustling and getting money/ not Gang Bangin. That’s why the bay gets more love. Cali niggas don’t seem like they bought getting no real bread no more.
Nip used to be in NY all the time..that’s why we knew him and the music & person were great we rocked with him.
Facts on him moving around. I’m from Atl and Nip used to be out here like 09-10’ when 90% of the club wasn’t even bobbing their head. But he was fucking around with the hoods out here, putting in that ground work and ppl grew to love him because of it. The rest of them cats are too biased and are local jokers
@@slumdogrioSame thing down here in Texas. Nip use to be jn Houston a lot plus he was cool with Trae The Truth and Slim Thug.
Nip didn’t use to rap like Cali nigga kinda like snoop his shit was fire lyrically we like gangsta shit here in Florida
FACTS 💯
No lie told there he even got a song with Max B
Larry June poppin’ outside of Cali
I forgot to mention him in my mentioning and he's from the Bay.
@ I know I’m from the Bay, Larry holding shit down for us
@@Kev_-qm1je 💯💯
But he use to live in ATL tho
@@azraelfirstofhisname8695facts Larry June went to Middle & High School with Gunna & OG Maco. People forget that
All these excuses , man west coast music does not travel well and when yall see people not from the west jamming to yall music yall start complaining "yall not from the west"
And I guess that trash yall listen to about popping pills is cool uh? Lol
Thats LA mfrs. bay artists get the most love in Portland and Seattle, which is for sure the west coast. LA is too stuck on gangbangin, the shit thats poppin there like lefty gunplay and X4 just arent good at all
You gotta do like Mozzy and colab with artist in different states
Detroit and the bay got a great connection where it’s equal love shown
That’s all Memphis/Mississippi connected at the end of the day
Good music
@@FrankWhite-i9k Detroit and the bay both rap bout hustlin and gettin money. LA act like they ain’t gettin to no bag
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@@MakeTonsthat’s not true , all niggas do is rap about getting money. It’s just the niggas that’s really getting money in LA aren’t rappers 😂
Y’all need to start coming out east and hanging out and getting to know the DJs and producers and touching the people. I’m from Florida and my hood was going crazy too Jacka and mobb figaz, we grew up on snoop and Dre, and we vibe to Nip. Kalan Frfr was signed with First Class Ent and the guy who owns it is from around my way in Florida so we do fw the music from out West. Cali is too insulted and political and if you go to other markets you can get away from the politics and get the sound out there. Kendrick got y’all on a wave right now, All you gotta do is ride it.
Well said bro. I'm from Cali but I live in Florida. I don't really hear west coast music out here but I do hear that gnx album getting run out here.
Rip the jacka. Real ones know
yall gotta stop killin and robbing rappers dat come to Cali too.
Bingo
Facts, they lowkey ruined their own rep too
It aint our fault the streets gutter when it comes to flashy ass outta town rappers come here sayin they wish someone would try to rob em. Cant do that. And cant use nip as an example cause his demise is due to some hood politics
ong... rappers come there for the weed and bbls… niggaz over there love to fully crash out over some azz and clout
Very true, that makes the entire LA scene look bad. That and the “check in” culture , fast track to getting extorted
Naw bruh it’s simple, West Coast artists stay on the West , they don’t really travel to other cities. June poppin outside the west because he make moves on the east & in the south.
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Exactly, Larry June did a sold out concert in Miami that’s very hard market for artists to sell in right now.
And he not a regional sounding artist. He can go do a full tape with alchemist beats and go crazy cause he not stuck on the sound out west like alot of them artists are.
The West Coast ran the 90s and had brief moments in the 2000s where it FAILED to capitalize on shit that went national or international like the hyphy or jerking/ratchet era.
The issue is Kendrick gotta lead the wave and bring ppl on in the process like he doin rn with the West Coast sound and slappers. The Game messed up beefing with the wrong ones otherwise he could have done it since he had a real wave at one point.
Ppl fuckin with shit like Dody6 verse on "Hey Now" or Hitta verse and the top songs in the world rn feature West Coast productions from a West Coast artist. We know YG was able to cross over and if Nip don't get got who knows where this at rn. The West gotta real opportunity to put aside politics when it comes to the music and get this chili while the iron is hot especially since Mustard back outside killin it
ran the 90's? lol
@@hiphopculturetv7744 genius go look at what Death Row alone made ... the West Coast was dominant that decade and took the crown from New York
Ratchet is more of a down south Louisiana thing unless Cali has another term for it I don’t know about?
That part 💯💯
NWA, Dr. Dre, Cube to the Bay Area. I think these ppl are young.
It's the Gangs and politics
Stop making excuses
Facts
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Cali not rapping out getting no money. I mean….where the hustlers at. The black culture in Cali is still a mystery to outsiders. No real soul in the music either.
Have you ever looked at a map of LA county? Where is it so divided? The politics was created by red lining and it just carried over generation after generation.
@@Harlem1mentality nobody said different
The West Coast is not just LA. If you wanna hear some real good music, try listening to Bay Area or Northern California artists. Mozzy to me is still the best rapper in California. Larry June is one of the favorites also. Anyone has recommendations for artists in San Diego?
Mozzy is “The Fella.” You’re right he really is the best rapper and has mass appeal. I think his cases/jail hold him back every time it’s time for him to breakout.
Saying the West Coast will always be funny cause it's really just California lol, ain't no one really coming from places like Vegas, Seattle or Phoenix.
San Diego rappers don elway, Adonis da hottest, Marty macphly,Fetti Mac,Ryan Anthony, KP2,Mitchy slick, yabbie , n8nassty
Bay music hits hard in clubs
Mfs make music for JUST Cali and expect the world to like it.
Every region made music for their state lol so that logic doesn’t make sense. The world was not listening to Detroit music at first. When jeezy signed DBCO , they used to laugh at their music because nobody understood it yet unless you was into it. Now that’s the sound.
This era is about 808s, drill, singing and rapping with melodies bro. The past era of hiphop was drill, aint nobody tryna hear westcoast 90's early 2000's type bops with the outdated synth basses. Everybody out of cali look at the west like we still stuck in the jerk era
Yea that’s true but I noticed the people that have that sound are successful Roddy Rich TDE Baby Keem
Bay Area got a different sound than LA though. But I get what you’re saying
@@MaruTheGreat I heard Mustard sound comes from the Bay Area?
@@oladeebiazazi4538 heard similar, but who knows 🤷🏾♂️
@ Tbh I’ve heard some Bay Area music the sound does sound similar
Im gonna be real, us Midwest peoples always messed wit the west coast...when I grew up in Ohio, we always pumped NWA, Ice-T, Too Short and many more before the East Coast got on. This also why Easy-E managed Bone-Thugs and Harmony and Dr. Dre picked up Eminem...the love has always been there from us...but at the same time, we also know the rap money runs thru the East Coast and South these days
It's the music and the cadences.. a lot of LA or Cali artist can't make music outside of that sound and those who do don't get love or promoted by the city
Bingo. And I'm from TX. I feel kind of the same way about us. Dallas & Houston kind of pegioned holed itself. Yeah there's Meagan. But I think that has more to do with the current wave of female rappers. And Travis Scott went beyond whatever the world thought of TX.
What I think it's weird is that NY rappers who rip off the Southern sound now did it with better ease than any Westcoast rapper. I feel like L.A. and The Bay don't want to change, like we do in TX, because we don't have to. Our sate populations are both at 30 million or above. Sauce Walka, for all his goofiness and antics, probably does ok in other states. But he kills it in TX.
....T-Rell talking about Dejon 😂
Because all yall talk about is gangbanging etc etc same ole stuff man that’s why Kendrick is winning because he switches up his subject matter
LA will never be the forefront again but I do think there needs to be more respect but LA is just sooo different that people are never going to get it. It’s an acquired taste. They do need to support each other more and make that unity STRONG. Make mfs wanna be there and be from there.
Great segment more vids like this
If you could do a tape with Dom, Hit, Larry, Pac Div, Buddy, and various upcomers
With Mike & Keys, yourself(DJ Hed), Cardo as the producers.
It would be beneficial cause these artists can get inspiration and learn how others create & curate a soundtrack in the process.
One thing that's annoying about this narrative that ppl dont fuck with West Coast rap is the lack of accountability. Nipsey absolutely was about to be that guy in a mainstream way because he'd already planted his flag in so many other places. Yes, he was an LA dude to the core, but he embraced other regions with love. I used to see Nipsey all the time in NY. I heard about him being in grimy gambling spots in Brooklyn too. His sound was specific to his coast, but he never hid his admiration for New York. Succa Proof is a straight up east coast song with west coast lyrics. That reggae production is straight Brooklyn. You get further exchanging culture vs trying to push yours only. Ppl expect alot from NY without understanding the mentality of NY. Aint no hand holding in NY. You gotta grind & hit that mixtape circuit, period! NIpsey did all of that, which is why Kay Slay fucked with him as well as DJ Envy & Clue. NY artists don't even get played if they arent grinding. The music is good, but sometimes the attitude is too stand offish. It's like y'all aren't used to networking. Notice Nip's Rap Niggas video had him in NY and LA!
The west Coast sonics just dont hit like that no more..Kendrick and Tyler aint traditional, also the Game wasnt either...YG was prolly the last but he too had to link up with Jeezy...Roddy also had to sound like a southern ninja to blow up.
You naming mainstream artist actually proves the point that ppl just don’t know the artist in the first place. I can name 20 underground artist in Baton Rouge but someone can’t name 20 from la. That’s like me just only knowing boosie and Kevin gates lol
Jeezy beats came from Cali too behind Lex Luger
What is that man talking about? Either yall weird or the music trash. People outside of the west coast fw Mozzy, Westside Boogie, Dom Kennedy, Nip and Larry June. Save the think pieces. Its not a conspiracy. Yall dont produce a lot of heat and thats ok.
Tyler the Creator too, but Tyler and Odd Future blew up on the internet 🛜 before anyone knew they were from LA
West coast just need to keep doing them and dont worry about if the east,south like em or not cuz when the east make a song we dont worry if the west like it everything has its time the south had now the west got it even Canada had a little run thats just the way it is
Don’t know and can’t relate in Texas Detroit are my second homes and I don’t sound like LA so that also helps
Every doja cat , Tyler the creators and others make it out of LA
Its cause theres not alot of black people in LA simple
💡, don’t even get played on the radio lol or in the clubs. Gotta damn near be a mainstream artist to get played
Good content. keep goin!
That jacket hard
Blue Bucks Clan, Dom Kennedy, G Perico, Mozzy, Shoreline mafia , Rucci, Drakeo, Kendrick, YG, Larry June, Jay Worthy, Alchemist , and Niko G4 all have strong fanbases outside of Cali . Ppl don’t wanna hear that old school west coast shit no more. Y’all refusing to evolve just like the bubble gum shit in New York. It’s a new era adapt or die.
Valid points but alot of yapping going on here. The truth is the overwhelming majority of up and coming LA artists are trash and the music doesn't resignate outside of their neighborhood. If the music is good people will find it. They sound like watered down versions of YG and YG is ridiculously mid.
Imagine being from south Ga that west coast outlet is bunkers
Man im from thee westcoast we really dont support each other especially thee new celebs inculding this channel imma be clear IM 4rm WATTS We Have it thee hardest but thee truth if cali stuck together and supported each other we would really win
The Hip Hop/Rap scene/street culture in the WestCoast is just played out, from the music, down to the gangbanging lifestyle, that dominates everybody down there. Nothing about the WestCoast has changed since it's start from the 1970's and 1980's. Khakis and Gangbanging, and lowriders. Everybody down there is basically stuck in a time loop, from back in the day, and the sound and lifestyle has never progressed into anything remotely different, like it has in the South and the EastCoast. Meaning that, Young new rappers from Texas and Louisiana, don't sound or look like RapAalot or No Limit artists. The same goes for How this generation of rappers from Memphis and Florida, don't sound like their older rappers from their States. Moneybagg, Gotti, Dolph and P.R.E don't sound like 3-6 Mafia. Even in Florida, Plies, Gimbo, Nino Breeze, Rick Ross, don't sound like 2 live crew or jt money. Now listen to this carefully, they implemented some of the old sounds from back then, but they advanced it by incorporating new different flows and cadences, while elevating a better sound to how their regional sound use to sound. Kendrick sound isn't 100% WestCoast, but it is now, because he's purposely making WestCoast music, to prove a point, to support his coast. But it's nothing regional about Swimming Pools, Loyalty, Love Me, Black Panther soundtrack, poetic justice, etc. You can throw Game and Nip in their as well. Meaning that Gangbanging will always be apart of their culture, but the sound and marketability of the rapper, has to transcend outside your region, in order for people that aren't from your city and state, to like or love you. Look at Atlanta, jeezy, gucci, migos, lil baby, young thug, gunna, don't sound like or dress up, like Outkast or Goodie Mobb or like a SoSo Def artist from back in the day. Even the OG's in this video don't understand or get it. Homie just said, nobody will ever understand or get it. Nope, yall older og,s on the west definitely don't understand what's been going on in the South. Our Sound and look is constantly changing and progressing every 5 to 10 years, and that's a huge reason why we've dominated rap for the past 30 years nonstop. Plus we don't have gangbanging politics that hinders or stop the advancement and progression of our new artists coming up, like y'all. If Nip and Draeko the rulers don't get killed because of gang politics, and take away the politics all together, so they could do with business with yg, Kendrick, mustard, hitboy, philthyrich, mozzy, while progressing the sound to a newer sound. Then yall could be the South 2.0 as far as dominating the rap industry. But all of yall are stagnant because yall don't want to change the sound nor throw away the gang politics. So yall are about to be crying and complaining for another 10 to 20 years, while hitting switches and bumping More Bounce To The Ounce, or some old Dr Dre and Snoop. Also, the OG Debo mentality of the gangbangers, has turned alot of us off about Cali too. 2 Pac, Biggie, Nip, Pop Smoke, PNB Rock, and a few more have been killed on the WestCoast. Add to the fact, yall think that everybody has to check in with yall old crash dummy og,s to be protected and then extorted. Simply because they never did nothing with their life for 40 to 65 years, is super out of this world crazy. The entire energy of going down there, is the same as Chicago, it's feels negative and depressing because of the gangbanging culture that surrounds us in those cities, which is black people. None of that BS is happening in the SOUTH, and you can make money down here and come and go everywhere as you please, just as long as you don't starr up drama or beef. People are excited to travel to Florida, Texas, Georgia, and Louisiana, and Memphis. It's a open market, that's not dominated by gang politics and crab n a barrel mentality. I bet my life, that no rappers are happy to kick it in L.A. anymore like how people love and enjoy being in the South. Hanging around in 110% Heat, with alot of broke ninjas in Khakis with oldschool cars, talking about whos the hardest and who gotta check in, in order to come do business down there, iS NOT EXCITING OR ANTICIPATED TO GO BE AT OR HANG AT. some of my family is from their, and i never understood the hype L.A. would get, when it comes to black people. Hollywood is the only thing that's keeping it afloat right now. You would have to gut and change the entire culture and mindframe of the WestCoast, but it's not going to change any time soon by the way how they talk. They love that old raggedy death trap of the gangbanging mentality with dusty khakis and old broke down cars with hydraulics lol. Everybody called is slow, but we've dominated Hip Hop/Rap for decades now, while everybody else has stayed stagnant mentally, musically, and physically. So who was really slow, because everybody and they mommas been moving to the South, meanwhile, nobody don't want to set foot in Cali. Just to be broke because of the cost of living, while dealing with the gangbanging nonsense. Who TF wants to deal with that? It's all about the South, like Pimp C use to say, we having thangs down here.
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The south is gay, play and simple. You guys are easy to control. Thats why the labels love you.
Music is regional,everybody is gate keeping they shit
West coast artist get love in texas, michigan, and colorado just to name a few. The east coast the only ones that dont really don't rock with us.
When did Hed become a voice?
Love the Westcoast for sure. It's all about finding your pocket and groove. The Westcoast has just as much versatility as any other region. Just tap into your unique vibe and make it digestible.
The real reason Cali artists are not making it out is because of gang politics. Look at all the rising artists: Nispey, Drakeo, Young Slo-be, Bris. All of the big up and coming names died due to gang politics.
A lot of the artists in Cali that are poppin now don’t leave the West Coast with the exception of Larry June.
In the words of kendrick ..im fine with wit it ill push the lign wit it
They never leave LA they don’t travel outside of the west coast
In LA there are more Hispanic, white and Asian people than there are black people. We’re 4th in population and we still drive culture
That’s the demographics of the whole state now.
LA is super influential but it doesn't drive culture. New York, Chicago and Atlanta also up there with LA.
@ I totally disagree. LA and California in general has influenced the culture so much I don’t think you even notice it, because it’s so deeply embedded now. The fact people make music specifically for you to ride around to and play real loud in them old schools. That’s California and Dr Dre. Most of our slang is from the Bay Area. It’s so crazy people don’t even realize it. I grew up in the 90s everyone was and atill are trying t be fake LA gangsters. Weed culture it stems from California.
@@ptyten9718you missed his point he is saying that a minority of people is driving LA culture. So much that other groups are embracing the influence but not citing sources. The bay people are from the bay. Asian,black and Hispanic. While in LA is sectional af
But get pressed the most.
This is a True Story, so I was living down south.
(Wait Sidebar): I was listening to nipsey hussle mixtape 'Crenshaw' in real time in 2013. I was following Nip and his team work ethic via social media throughout the years prior to 2013 as well. Fast forward, Nip passed and a young man that was from Cali came down south and was riding on my van. He out of no where told me that I just started repping Nip now and I don't know nip like that. I didn't say nothing, but he said other things that was unnecessary. Mind you he didn't know anything about my music choice, upbringing, life, nothing. Cali guys are very eager to write their narratives and it can be their biggest write off for themselves sometimes, because they're emotionally impulsive and don't sit and think it through. I followed Nip journey online. It was cool to see him just be regular dude who just happens to do music like the rest of us artists. The West has social media like the rest of the world. Believe in yourselves more, grow and explore other parts to yourself as a human and evolve. Gotta grow yourselves or else you'll be stuck in a loop. That goes for the world too. Dj Hed cannot say what won't be accepted. I'm from the south, and I've been listening to west coast artists since I was a kid in the 90's. I like to hear west coast artist tell their real story. I just want to see them evolved as a human too, so that the music can reflect it. I believe their is a stunt in growth from peers, elders, and that makes the coast looks stuck. You gotta get out and get around people outside of gang culture, and grow as humans. To see what the world outside of themselves are saying that makes sense to get through to you about. They have the key, they gotta unlock it for themselves.
BINGO!!
First, WHOLE lot of talent on the West. But... The guys from the West's perspective is skewed and they don't even know it. Its like nothing exists to them outside of the west and gang culture/politics. The music reflects that.
Also, only their viewpoint is valid. It comes off as arrogant. What everyone else thinks or listens to doesn't matter. This mentality permeates from Hollywood all the way down to Crenshaw. To sum it up, LA is kind of stuck in a bubble that they don't know they're in... and they don't care to leave it.
Over generalizing. 🙄
@foreverfly3113 stfu this my story. Wanna be overly spiritual ssa
That's not true big bro it's the same here where I'm from in Minneapolis Minnesota. We have a amazing talent, and I have watched some of their interviews, and it's like some of them all say the same thing nobody wants to come together it feels like everybody hates on everybody.
Cali music aside from Kendrick , Tyler , nip and the OG seems like immature high school music they don’t talk about getting money , problems in the community, etc it’s just gang bang which hip hop today is mainstream so barely anybody cares outside your city
Yall should have kept G funk alive..those of us outside of California loved G-Funk or some modern form of it
Lived in Cali, grew up in Houston. Im Mexican and LA is cool but its not as connected like the south is. LA, Tijuana, San Diego, IE, Phoenix and Vegas is about it for that sound. Houston got Monterrey, Matamoros, Reynosa, DFW, Austin, the RGV, Oklahoma, San Antonio, New Orleans, Atlanta, Florida, Mississippi and Alabama. Its all connected in the south. That new orleans bounce/cumbia/crunk/miami bass/Norteño/Tejano sound gets a lot of play down here. Its about dancing down south. Cumbia and NO Bounce gets played in all the clubs/strip clubs from Miami to san Antonio.
West coast ya'll got the torch keep it lit. Who cares what people say or think. There's no party like a west coast party.
Knowing how large California is and telling Cali artists they need to worry about the rest of the world is just goofy.
NGL as a DJ.. DJ Hed sucks at understanding music
I think west coast artists are too insular. We knew Nip because he spent time trying to touch new markets in the east coast.
Good to hear Hed answer the questions in its entirety, lots of info being disseminated
It’s the music bro u can’t make people like shit they don’t like 😂
facts idk why they obsessed with helping wen these west coat rappers are bots fr
Thnk you ..exactly
It’s that simple 😂
Why you lie
I've been saying this for years out here.
I think it has more to do with the culture itself. No matter where you are from if you are just a figurehead for the area your popularity peaks in that area. If you want to stand outside of that you have to be more than that. Tyler is an LA artist who doesn’t sound like an LA Artist. Rocky is a NY artist who doesn’t sound like the rest of New York. Kanye doesn’t sound like Chicago. Etc etc there are always artist that break the mold and are largely celebrated as artist everywhere. Not just labeled as west or east coast artist you feel me. If you want to refer to the culture as your own source of inspiration that’s fine but like Unc said it’s never gonna be understood the same way in other regions or countries outside the us
Its very simple. GANG BANGING. Peep:
1. Yall speak about gang politics and issues that only yall understand.
2. Yall speak gang lingo that only yall understand.
3. Yall can only collab with certain people and support certain people due to politics. That makes it hard to create a hood following in your own city.
Its not the fashion, sound etc. theres mad westcoast artists that make it big, BECAUSE THEY NOT GANGED OUT IN THEY MUSIC. And all this “everybody hate the west” narrative is BS and it turns people off. Of course theres gona be bias and political ties in the industry, but yall be sounding like victims. Hate that. KDOT just made an LA Centric album with LA sounds, clothes etc. but it was hot and people could make sense of it… Get on the grind!
That’s every region though, i don’t see why it’s hurts the west coast the most. To be fair in my opinion west coast beats are way more groovy.
@ you just dont want to understand bro
No its yall are outdated
Man kut the 🧢. All these niggas from Atlanta to Memphis to Detroit to Florida to Texas ALL talk bout shit people outside of those cities/states know nothing about. They have different lingo but it’s a problem when we do it
@@KHY_001because y’all are 7% black. Atlanta is 50% black. So with the numbers everybody doesn’t have to like you. In LA gang politics makes that 7% smaller. I’m from Atlanta and live in LA and that’s mainly the difference. Some songs are so west coast they don’t translate well to the rest of the nation. Atlanta has music like that too but it’s not trying to be mainstream.
I think the East/West beef really messed up the money for a lot of LA rappers for at least a generation. It took the Game joining G-Unit for people to pay attention to west coast rappers again. And then he fumbled the bag beefing with 50.
I think the LA artists who’ve blown up recently (Kendrick, Tyler, etc.) did so because of the internet and blogs like DatPiff.
But the West Coast isn’t just LA; the Bay Area/Sac have a handful of rappers who are also experiencing a good deal of success (Larry June, Mozzy, etc.)
LA needs to transition outta that gangbanging shit, it had a run in the 90s but now it looks dusty. They should’ve embraced the skater shit Tyler was on
Naw that will never happen. Gangbanging will never die, it's rooted to deep in cali culture which is then tied in with Chicano culture and Chicano culture is tied in with mexican culture.
Lol I’m from Atlanta, but telling them to “get outta gang banging” is crazy lol. That sht is not a phase😂, it’s real life n sum authentic sht.. Now blending the sound a little, maybe.
@@conspiracychipmunk3488Exactly it’s just a different culture
@@juice.globalsome degenerate shit they choose to join lmao
@@juice.globalit’s part of the problem that they can’t get out of this hole they’re in.. Cali gangbanging outside of LA looks burnt out to everyone else. It doesn’t sell
I love the demographics piece of this convo.
LA music is too much gang banging.Older people don’t want to hear that
Same thing for Texas artist. You can make millions just by being big in Texas. You can go to city and city and max out at each venue.
Its too much politics on the west!
Big facts and it be celebs like this that really hate on thee next coming up
I’m going be honest every city has the same thing going on with their music but I’m from dc I don’t listen to west coast music because it’s too slow and yall do like abc rap
lol DC rap
Abc rap got me dying 😂
How many DC artist do you listen to?
DC in the house!
All these excuses....Its like asking Why battle rappers can't break through and make good albums or songs. Make good music and the cream will rise to the top.
Nip proved that
That’s why Kendrick is changing things.Kendrick is basically making it possible to not even leave the city and pop
I’m from Baltimore and listen to the west coast all the time guess it’s just preference
Off-beat conversation flow, FAKE Drakeo cadence, wave needs to fizzle out
That’s the definitive westcoast sound for now unfortunately.
Drakeo and 03 was collating with ppl all across the country. INDEPENDENTLY
Westside Webb should be the biggest new artist from Cali
Dangerous north of 10
To say it'll never be accepted isn't true because in the 90s it was accepted by the masses. Things comes in seasons it's some other regions turn right now. When i was a teenager Atlanta was poppin
Most west coast music just don’t sound good to anybody but people on the west coast
It's gas prices
man stfu lol, respectfully. the west coast has hella talent. but yessss, y'all haven't ben popping in a min but the early 90s & mid 90s was y'all"s time, y'all n the east coast use to shit on the south. intel andre3000 had to pop out n show niggas on stage "the south got some say''. late 90s to now. the south has ben on top ever since & still is. Kenny did put the west coast back on board but dont act like y'all dint run shit once lol. especially in the early 10's TDE was on top fr.
This man drink the cool aid low key
Rappers need to stop making where they from their whole identity. That’s why Kendrick and Tyler blew up their music was unique to them and not where they’re from.
It’s hard because y’all never wanna pay homage to who is moving forward , rip Drakeo
To be honest the west coast is the only one keeping it "black" (black culture) everybody else went commercial.
West coast, ya can start by NOT pronouncing your Rs in the music. We know ya talk mad proper, compared to the rest of the country. Eazy E used to pronounce Mark as “Mawk” in his music for example. Also, TRAVEL more. We get it, Cali is the biggest state, but there’s a world outside of Cali. Tap in and network with artists & journalists from different parts of the country. That’s what we New Yorkers do to. We be everywhere. Whether it’s ATL, Miami, LA, Dubai, etc…
That argument easy to refute cause LA culture is the only city whose culture is in every city in America. That makes it easier
Huh? LA culture in every city in America? That’s false. People think LA is weird in Chicago
@@Shawn-p6x5x lmao LA thinks people from Long Beach is weird.
Even other places only have a couple good artist from each city, stop caring 1 state to a whole country worth of artist, every city has low view up and coming artist it’s not just Cali
Gina a flip
All these excuses you guys can make but reality no one like that sound outside of LA
Who is NO ONE?
@@pjg179 Black America
Idk some of the artists making the best music are from LA….Kendrick, Schoolboy Q, Vince Staples, Ab Soul, Big Sad.
I agree with you about the excuses... but Not Like Us is LA sound and that hit worldwide so people do like it.
Trippin
WestCoast
These losers are so busy attempting to intimidate that they have no idea how to welcome in. Certain artist understand but many don't. Always crying and attempting to force folks to play their trash. Then they want to extort artist as they come out here. You cannot play both sides and the idiotic gang shit is what will always hold Southern Cali back for the most part. World has evolved and they're still stuck in that 80-early 90's mindset on their third, fourth and fifth childhoods.
bro yall can bring up west coast artists on everyday of the week i aint gonna listen bc yall all trying sound the same and the ‘different ones’ they just try to rap all lyrical ona old westcoast beat
Who sound the same? You sound dumb asf. Gperico don’t sound like Big Sad 1900
I'm from here and I don't listen to this crap outside of the legends
@ lol I wanna ask some questions but nahh I think I already have my answers
Y'all talking about Lil Wayne complaining but every time I see one of these dudes they're complaining about no support..
Y’all gotta stop making trash music for the rest of the country wanna hear…
Stop killing rappers and y'all sound sucks
L.a is the best place to live
The West does not need to appeal to other regions; otherwise, the music will be wack. I live on the East Coast now, but I am from the West. I can not get into any other music. We grew up with music programs with a lot of instrumentation in the West. No other region has anyone like Dre, DJ Quik, or Terrance Martin. To me, other regions do not make good music like the West.
West Coast not rapping bout selling Dope or getting money no more. Most of the black hoods in the United States all about hustling and getting money/ not Gang Bangin. That’s why the bay gets more love. Cali niggas don’t seem like they bought getting no real bread no more.