Regenerating the Lost Season of Doctor Who

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  • Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
  • Before The Trial of a Time Lord, Eric Saward and John Nathan-Turner had already progressed with an original plan for an un-trialed Season 23. But following the hiatus, things had changed. In 2009, Big Finish took it upon themselves to reimagine this series, building a regenerated version from the ground up.
    Special thanks to Macra Music for supplying the incidental music and DanTheMan2150AD for the Big Finish audios.
    Twitter: / samorwhostudios
    Or contact me at whostudios.sam@gmail.com
    0:00 - Introduction
    4:58 - The Nightmare Fair
    7:39 - Mission to Magnus
    9:45 - Leviathan
    11:21 - The Hollows of Time
    13:37 - Paradise Five
    15:16 - Point of Entry
    16:11 - The Song of Megaptera
    18:33 - The Macros
    20:05 - Final Notes
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  • @JoshSnares
    @JoshSnares 2 роки тому +43

    Thank you for making the video i was far too intimidated to make! Lovely work 💕💕

    • @SamThomas_YT
      @SamThomas_YT  2 роки тому +7

      Haha thanks 🥰

    • @leepshin
      @leepshin Рік тому

      ​@@SamThomas_YT Next time you do a Big Finish oriented video, warn everyone ok? Not everyone fkn likes Big Finish unless they have plans to animate the audio [which is highly unlikely]

  • @simonriches77
    @simonriches77 11 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic video. I have just finished listening to 'Leviathan' and can definitely see why budgetary reasons would have got in the way of it being made. Brilliant story with a great twist for the cliffhanger at the end of Part one.

  • @fadikhoory5350
    @fadikhoory5350 2 роки тому +7

    The Macros could have given Ingrid Pitt justice after Dr Solow.

  • @josephiajanke9850
    @josephiajanke9850 Рік тому +4

    I remember reading The Nightmare Fair , Mission to Magnus and The Ultimate Evil books when they came out. Great Stuff. I am glad The Lost Stories audios exist. Frontios is my favourite 5th Doctor story.

  • @SortedRays
    @SortedRays 2 роки тому +4

    Super well made documentary! especially that chart with all the scripts found with the later adaptions shown visually, I never knew they had found that many. I'm looking forward to future lost story stuff

  • @DanTheMan2150AD
    @DanTheMan2150AD 2 роки тому +5

    I feel like a lot of the problems with the first series of Lost Stories is they are way more reliant on non-existent visuals, the first two stories especially. Many scenes expecting us to be able to see what the characters are seeing with very little explanation. Leviathan had the advantage of being written as an audio script from its source material rather than it just being a straight up translation of the televised scripts.
    The Hollows of Time is a weird personal favourite of mine but that's because I love Bidmead's style of science fiction writing. But that's as far as I made it into Series 1, lord knows you've got me wanting to listen to the rest at some point. Would love to see more of this series.

    • @SamThomas_YT
      @SamThomas_YT  2 роки тому +3

      Admittedly I didn't listen to the stories in full BUT what I did delve into I thought had some really interesting material. Some clunky dialogue here and there but really showed promise imo

    • @DanTheMan2150AD
      @DanTheMan2150AD 2 роки тому +3

      @@SamThomas_YT They refined the format and really hit the ground running with Series 2, 3 and 4 for the most part. Stories like Farewell, Great Macedon, The Elite, The First Sontarans, Lords of the Red Planet and I’ll even throw in Return of the Cybermen really showcase the power this range has to offer. The Foe from the Future I see continually raved about in many forums and circles but is not one I’ve listened to.

  • @JohnAShort
    @JohnAShort Рік тому +3

    Great video. What a shame we didn't get the original season 23 at the time as many of these stories were better than Trial Of A Timelord. My two favourites are Leviathan and The Song Of Megaptera. Far better stories than anything Colin Baker got on screen. Big Finish did get the rights to allow them to record and release The Ultimate Evil in the end as well as three other unproduced TV scripts from this era - The Guardians of Prophecy, Power Play and The First Sontarans. The latter of which is another cracker that I would recommend.

  • @JAProductions494
    @JAProductions494 2 роки тому +7

    This has to be the best video you’ve made so far
    It was really in depth, informative and interesting. The editing was on point and it was just fantastic all around
    This has now inspired me to crack on with my documentary

    • @SamThomas_YT
      @SamThomas_YT  2 роки тому +2

      Wow thanks. I'm not too sure whether it's my favourite of mine but I know I'm heading in the right direction :)

  • @timothyweers8054
    @timothyweers8054 13 днів тому

    I know it is a bit late, but since DW went on hiatus, it would in my eyes anyway if The Nightmare Fair did run as the comeback story before The Trial Of A Timelord, would give more of a mystery where was Peri and what happened to her. The only thing would be that they would need to cut the trial sequences shorter.

  • @nigelmathewsnrm
    @nigelmathewsnrm 2 роки тому +2

    I once had the book version of The Ultimate Evil, mainly, to be honest, 'cos I liked the image on the cover, and after a while, I did like the story, but after watching Revelation of the Daleks, I was interested in The Nightmare Fair, and when I heard that it was going to feature the return of the Toymaker, I looked for it, but couldn't find it in the shops. I'm surprised they didn't give Peri the yellow leotard that Nicola was wearing when The Doc drove up to the exhibition as seen in a small clip on The Colin Baker Years

  • @JeremyDuncan
    @JeremyDuncan 2 роки тому +4

    Hey! You finished it! Good job! I recall you tweeting you were making this and Josh Snares' video on the nightmare fair spurred you on. Great video love your stuff.

  • @turret72
    @turret72 Рік тому

    All that’s missing is ‘The Children of January’ and there will be the full lost 23rd Season.
    The title alone sparks the imagination.

  • @frangrock
    @frangrock Рік тому +3

    The Nightmare Fair starring Michael Gove... 🤔

  • @HJohn-xn9ub
    @HJohn-xn9ub Рік тому

    Oh my. I like Doctor Who, but there is SO much that I’ve never seen and probably ever will.

  • @steve_rode
    @steve_rode Рік тому

    Thank You “WhoStudios” (Sam) 👍
    An extremely interesting video!
    Thoroughly Enjoyed 😊

  • @AnotherScifiGuy
    @AnotherScifiGuy 2 роки тому

    Great editing, and a good topic to discuss. Another great video!

  • @slaneyinfamous
    @slaneyinfamous 2 роки тому

    excellent presentation!!! definitely earned a sub

  • @ImJustRoo_
    @ImJustRoo_ Рік тому

    Makes you wonder about other episodes that were considered for other seasons.

  • @benmiller3252
    @benmiller3252 2 роки тому +3

    Can you do one for stories that were planned for season 27

  • @1000guy1
    @1000guy1 Рік тому +1

    They should animate theses

  • @andrewdmcgill1
    @andrewdmcgill1 Рік тому +1

    I still have never heard any sensible explanation for why they tossed out all the planned stories, knowing they would have to scramble to get something new together.

  • @disneyboy3030
    @disneyboy3030 3 місяці тому

    Can you make a video on what we know on the original plans for Season 24 before Colin Baker left.

  • @whocrusader5179
    @whocrusader5179 Рік тому

    What about The Ultimate Evil?

  • @TheRealUnkn0wn_289
    @TheRealUnkn0wn_289 2 роки тому

    Black glove studios have said they are working on a fanmade audio of Yellow Fever

    • @TheRealUnkn0wn_289
      @TheRealUnkn0wn_289 2 роки тому

      Season 27 also had some audios made by Big Finish, some of them are lost stories and some of them are main range plus the companion from season 27 was used in UNIT Dominion and some other stories
      Three or more novels were made of some season 27 stories, one was also made as a big finish story however two or one remain only as novels and the rest of the planned scripts were never made into stories

    • @SamThomas_YT
      @SamThomas_YT  2 роки тому

      Ooo definitely interested. Such an interesting story!

    • @AnotherScifiGuy
      @AnotherScifiGuy 2 роки тому +1

      I would enjoy hearing that as Bob Holmes is my favorite Who writer. Had he written part of the story or just an outline for it?

    • @TheRealUnkn0wn_289
      @TheRealUnkn0wn_289 2 роки тому +1

      @@AnotherScifiGuy I think it was part of the story and an outline maybe

    • @AnotherScifiGuy
      @AnotherScifiGuy 2 роки тому

      @@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 I would be interested in it. Just finished rewatching two Doctors. Another good Holmes story.

  • @josephcooter5763
    @josephcooter5763 Рік тому

    Was the the idea of a space whale revived for the eleventh doctor story the Beast Below?

    • @SamThomas_YT
      @SamThomas_YT  Рік тому

      I'm pretty sure it was just a coincidence but it may have been inspired

    • @josephcooter5763
      @josephcooter5763 Рік тому

      @@SamThomas_YT Given how much the production teams of the revival have been super fans I wouldn't be surprised if Moffat heard these stories and decided to use it for the Beast Below. Although I have to admit the idea of Liz Ten is an original idea.

  • @twankistevenson3884
    @twankistevenson3884 Рік тому

    The original Season 23 is a sad loss. Hopefully we wouldn't have had that G*dawful version of the theme tune had things carried on as normal (personally I'd have yanked it off of Saturday nights and stuck it on Wednesdays at 8pm as well since the show was getting hammered on Saturdays by this point)

  • @robalexander8065
    @robalexander8065 Рік тому

    A decent documentary let down by some odd pronunciation. Chris Boucher - Boucher is pronounced "Bow-cher" not "Boo-chet". Michael Gough - Gough is pronounced "Goff" not "Gogh" and Dr Faustus, Faustus is pronounced "Fow-stuss" not "Fosstuss".