Can just be lots and lots of guts. I think you're thinking of torture genre. There is a difference. Terrifier kind of goes into both categories at the same time being fun. It feels like an 80s slasher film where it makes it fun to watch.
The movie made me uncomfortable in a good way. Sometimes movies that tester limits are a good thing. This movie achieve that and made it entertaining at the same time.
I thought the original Art was good. However David Howard Thornton is Leaps and Bounds better than the original actor. I met the actor who played art the clown David Howard Thornton he's awesome.
When I went to go see the 3rd move, a family of 4 with LITTLE KIDS came into the theater during a kill, but it must have been a mix-up in room numbers bc the mom immediately whisper-yelled “Wrong room, let’s go” to her kids- one of them stayed behind for a good 2 minutes before scampering off- they look NO OLDER THAN 6..💀💀💀
Terrifier is fine but im just so tired of all of the promotional material solely being "we have a scene so scary people were puking, crying, and shitting in the theaters!?!?!!" edit: im not trashing the movies, ive never seen them and i understand everything id subjective. im just talking about the marketing
That's part of why I avoid these movies like the plague despite being someone who writes torture. If that's your number one selling point, then that's just telling me you're trying to be as shocking as possible and as the other replied said, super edgy. It almost reminds me of those mobile ads where it's like "only 1% of the population can handle this!"
@@abhainn35 don’t let the promos steer you away, sure the movies are super gory. But they don’t take themselves seriously. Especially in the third. It’s more like it’s being so extra it’s hilarious, and they’re very self aware about it
I think terrified has its place in horror, but it runs into the problem that saw had. Basically you can only do so much gory blood and guts before people just get jaded by it and stop caring.
but the difference between both films is that saw has been going for TWENTY YEARS. having ELEVEN MOVIES and a very very very confusing but VERY much there plot terrifier has only 3 movies so far; you barely see their deaths coming and the lore forces you to actually dig DEEP to understand ANY of it, eventually, yes, people will get tired by the gore, but if saw can make it through 11 movies, terrifier can last just as long while keeping shock value
what a stupid argument. just say you don't find it fun. by your argument then gory movies would never "do anything" because I've seen one before. it's not a drug addiction that makes me want something more and something stronger i just want to have fun. i think you're watching movies for the wrong reasons
A small thing about the splatter genre: It was originally made as a protest against restricting censorship. They wanted things to be as gorey or sexual as possible just to gross people out. Though even those stories still had a plot, splatter stories now no longer have plots (mostly). In my opinion it has lost its spark or creativity by lack of quality in the plot in more modern stories
@@vainpiers It is, though. The genre was also made as a response to "free" women of the 70s/80s being open about their sexuality and such. Basically the world vs. said women. A lot of horror genres are based on real events/changes in society.
@@NoOneReallySpecialit isnt because sexuality is always a punishment on the women. Women who are openly sexual either harm people or are harmed. Pick up a splatter book and chances are high that its a book by a cishet man where a woman is r4ped and brutalized for the entire runtime. Theres no meanijg to the brutality beyond "isnt that gross!" And tou could easily swap out her being violently r4ped for something else. Stop calling cishet men feminists for writing stories where women are abused you absolute cow.
I bet some movie directors considered doing movies on Jeff The Killer at one moment, I don't know why but I'm certain (Btw can we talk about how TERRIBLE is this creepypasta ? I've rarely seen something that bad). And for me Art is a combination of Luna Ghost design (very similar and somehow different at the same time, I feel like Luna Ghost (from Scooby-Doo 2002 btw) looks like a alternative universe Art, its hard to explain but I think you'll got it if you check at Luna's picture), Jason powers and like Chucky's sadism (or Freddy Krueger's)
He looks soo similar to laughing jack I actually never got that out of my mind. Like this movie ‘s (1st one) script probably would’ve made it on wattpad in 2012 as a creepypasta and gotten popular lmao
Difference is that 15yo creepy pasta authors are dead serious while Terrifier is tounge in cheek and self aware. It's half tribute to, half parody of slasher movies. The author doesn't claim to have some deep messaging or complex characters in it.
One detail I wanted to point out is that the homeless lady's doll in the first film was named Emily, and the little girl that the pale girl is imitating was named Emily Crayne. My theory is that Art had killed that woman's daughter in the past which drove her crazy.
@@crazydud3380 i think its more the people making it can do horrific gore, but find a woman not looking perfect isnt fit for tv- absoloute bs if you ask me
@sophiefdez Oh it is. My point was really more that nearly every movie and TV show is guilty of it. I mean, everyone in period pieces tends to have perfect teeth, which certainly isn't accurate.
I really like the portrayal of trauma in Terrifier 3. The way it shows both sides, one trying to move on and one who's stuck, is pretty damn accurate. It was also shown that Johnathan takes paroxetine, which is medication used for depression (mainly), which is something that would def be affecting both of the kids. I love it.
The fact nobody is likening Art's obvious shift from being a living person to being a deathless demonic entity upon his actual demise to Jason Voorhees, who shares the same arc, is genuinely shocking and disappointing.
I find it odd that people call the first film “transphobic”. like the guy is an evil psychopath, even if he did do something explicitly transphobic, he’s not supposed to be likeable anyways, he’s literally the villain, I mean that’s like saying Damien Leone wants to brutally murder people because he makes movies about brutal murder, just because it happens in something a person made does not mean it aligns with that person’s beliefs. also the marketing team basically lied about David Howard Thornton almost puking on set. they made it sound like there was a scene that was so grotesque that it almost brought “Art the Clown himself to becoming nauseous”, when in reality (or so I’ve heard) the real reason was just because of some kinda phobia he had relation to the scene in question. I think it was rats but correct me if I’m wrong.
In an interview, David said the only scene that genuinely kind of bothered him and made him nauseous to do was the tube rat scene, because of the puke. Idk if he genuinely almost hurled, but he said it definitely got him
Bad guy does bad thing so that doesn't condone thing only goes so far. Because if the framing itself is "ew gross a transperson" and the horror and uncomfortability is meant to come from them being trans... it's still transphobic.
The lady in the first movie with the baby doll is played by a trans actor, with her character being depicted as a completely cis woman. She chose herself what she wanted the character to be like, and they were glad to let her! As someone who lives in a transphobic community, if they were transphobic they would have done a lot worse.
I admire the cinematography but terrifier 2 just p*ssed me and my friends off😭 the ratio of time given to female torture and male was so obvious, theres a line to be crossed
girl what r u yappin abt😭 the kills were pretty balanced sex wise. u saying the ratio was off jus shows u weren’t into the movie and just wanted to dissect it to build ur own narrative. weird
They make up for that in 3 for sure 😉 (As a dude, the d*ck being torn off, and the scene in Terrifyer 3 REALLY got to me) Genital mutilation stuff on both ends get me queezy lol.
One thing that i notice is that theres a lot of terrifier fans who ask "why do people only think these movies are only gore?!" When its due to how these movies present themselves, most slasher present themselves with fear as the focus, fear of the slasher, while these movies present themselves as goofy gorefest especially with the "people who watch this film puke lol" and "watch the goofy clown kill the guy for a while" and with the first film just being that exact thing and nothing else it mainly only attracts big horror fans, and the the "I watch gore for fun 🤓" crowd, the ladder of which also repeats the same sentiment
@notgonnapay I said most slashers, exceptions like child's play and nightmare on elm Street exist but they focus on their comedic monster scaring a bunch of teens or kids
@@deathseekr1537 Even Elm Street focuses on the fear, just in a different way. Freddy is all about fear, he just takes things less seriously than silent killers like Jason or Michael
Okay but why can't we have a goofy gorefest? I just wanna see a killer clown go fucking mental for a couple hours, if I want a slow burn psychological thriller I can go find a hundred. We're running out of good old grindhouse splatter films, and Terrifier 1 was perfect. It knew what it was and didn't try to be anything else. Terrifier 2 is about a little girl getting superpowers from her halloween costume and beating a demon with daddys love. If that is too edgy for you I don't understand how you are alive in the world right now. Just because gory movies gross you out doesn't mean everybody else who likes them is a prick going "look how cool I am for watching this" we just don't get pissy when we see it like you do. People hate to realize that they can't handle something, so they blame the thing and the people who like it instead of accepting their own limits. Another point, how exactly are you supposed to make a horror film about a guy who kills people without being edgy? What people seem to want is a convoluted backstory about why the killer is just a misunderstood sadboy they can draw sexy fanart of but that's not scary. I'm not afraid of mopey traumatized humans I'm afraid of invincible sadists who don't feel pain or empathy. That's great for a character study about a troubled individual but I didn't buy a ticket to Joker I bought a ticket to Clown Kills People The Movie and there's nothing wrong with wanting a couple hours of dumb meaningless fun
@@thatfunkadeus Those articles about people puking and fainting in theaters, though they garnered a ton of publicity for the filmmakers, were awful for the fans' reputation. People liken Terrifier to films like Saw, Hostel, and even A Serbian Film despite having nothing in common with them besides the explicit gore. If anything, I’d compare it with Italian Giallo, such as Dario Argento’s Suspiria, or The Church.
See, my issue with the movies isn’t the movies themselves as much as it is the way they’re talked about online. A lot of grandstanding about how if you don’t like the movies you don’t “get it” and are either too stupid or too much of a coward to be a horror fan in general.
Realest thing ever, I’ve seen half of 1 and a bit of 3 with my friends. We honesty, found it so boring, and the culture around the movies suck. There’s so many people around me thinking they are “different” and “edgy” because they find it fun and entertaining. I can withstand gore but it ain’t fun watching it
exactly, while i love the franchise i also don't like to watch gore, i often watch right up to when it happens then skip the actual details of the kill. But unfortunately, a certain type of terrifier fans like to dog on people who simply refuse to watch because of that aspect, like somehow they're superior because they enjoy that sort of stuff. I also dislike the way the movies are promoted, i understand shock sells, but if they keep marketing the franchise as "omg 5 people walked out and puked and shit everywhere because of this scene" then they cannot be surprised when they keep attracting cringe edgelords into their fandom.
@@月月月月-p5gdude nobody else feels the same way when I said the first two were boring, but you get it. The biggest problem these movies have is the bloated run time. They should be an hour and a half at max, but instead they’re two and a half hours and by the end you’re just glad it’s over and feel like you got your time wasted.
@@onesaucynougat7471 it was so boring to watch it. Ppl in my math class were watching 3 and out of boredom I joined in. It was over2 hours long, and what’s crazy to me is how anyone is entertained by this shit. It’s crazy. I understand the appeal with shock value or wt r but god damn is it boring.
nobody has ever once said you're stupid . give me a break. it's "not for you" and that's OK but ive never seen anybody gatekeeping terrifier for 'intelligent' ppl. save that for ari aster fans or some other arthouse horror director
terrifier fans will switch from "yeah i watch this sort of thing for fun, sorry if you cant handle it 😎😎" to having screaming matches in response to the slightest criticism and then wonder why people don't like them
THANK YOU. I see it all the time. They love to insist the films aren't overhyped but "overhated". Overhated by who exactly? WHO? I can't find a single person online that says anything remotively negative about these films.
Where do you even meet all "these people"? The movie came and went to lukewarm reception. Dunno what all this supposed controversy is. It's a B-grade movie that made it into the A-grade theatre slots. End of story.
This is why I don't interact with the fandom, I just liked the movies, but I thought "Wow, the fans are really simping for the killer, I sense a toxic fandom." Ignorance is bliss
@shawnsells7 it was a free screening for tester audiences and they dont reveal the name of the movie till you sit down, they mislead audiences on what the movie would be to get more shocked audience reactions
Actually kind of mad at the retelling of one of the funnier horror movie jokes in recent time: Tara doesnt just run away and gets shot a few times. After several attempts of fighting back against art she finally gets the upper hand, grabs a plank of wood from the ground and starts beating the living piss out of him. Giving the audience a slight shimmer of hope at her becoming the final girl and managing to defeat the killer, she prepares herself to finish the mime with the makeshift weapon. Art on his knees, beaten down and almost shivering pulls a glock from his sock like he is John Wick and shots her. Perfect comedic timing, perfect acting from Thornton
That scene turned the tide on how I was feeling about the movie. I was ready to throw it in the trash bin, but then Art pulling out his trusty gat out of desperation made me laugh so hard. Thornton really is the saving grace of that first movie.
A lot of people were disturbed by the shower scene. I grew up watching a lot of Texas chainsaw so it didn’t really bother me, but the FUCKING BOX CUTTER scene actually made me puke, and it was the first time I ever puked during a horror movie
The bedroom scene of 2 made me a little icked out. Human Centipede was my first real shock movie and that was the first and only real time I almost got sick watching it and that was cause my mom didn't actually tell me what it was about, had my sister and husband and I watch it with her and eat pizza...
I was somehow able to watch most of the scenes in 3, but the shower scene couldn’t. Something about chainsaws against people naked and wet is enough for me to feel uncomfortable in places I don’t wanna feel uncomfortable at. Just me though.
1. The Terrifier movies aren't trying to be scary, just violent af 2. Is it safe to download anything on IA rn? I know they got hacked recently so i'm scared to even go there lol
@@jgv6323 chances are its fine, the people who hacked the site were trying to protest the Palestine genocide according to journalists, i doubt they bothered to inject anything malicious whilst doing it since that wasn't really the motive
Regarding kid death on film, for me the most important part is to make sure the child actors on screen are safe. It's okay to have practical effects as long as the kids don't have to be involved with it cause I don't think it's good for little children to see gore, and be involved with it, even if it's partical effects since it takes a while before kids can fully understand the difference between reality and fiction!
Sounds like you’ve never been on a film set. I get there’s probably a line not to cross, but no kid is being traumatized on set by a blood squib or something of that nature. It’s extremely obvious even to a child that everything is manufactured.
I don’t think this is even remotely true. If you look at the behind the scenes of any horror movies with child actors, they always seem like they’re having a blast. I’m sure there’s exceptions, but from what I’ve seen, they usually understand that it’s all fake, and are genuinely having fun.
@@RangerW36 Take for example, Hereditary, where the actress for Charlie (the girl who got decapitated by a Telephone pole) Milly Shapiro, actually described filming the infamous Telephone pole scene as fun and like a roller coaster and actually wanted to keep her prop decapitated head (which unfortunately she couldn't)
Idk about misogyny in these films but that paragraph sounds like "but I have a black friend I'm not racists" it makes me think he doesn't know what misogyny looks like, and because he doesn't he can't make a proper commentary or subversion of it
The terrifier series is essentially just splatterpunk, but movie edition. Which I have no issue with, sometimes I enjoy it, but people gotta remember, not everyone is gonna like certain genres and vice versa. All I say is, if you don’t like something? Read the tags/warnings, and avoid it.
Thats how it used to be in the past that the people that liked something enjoyed it and the people that dont like it just avoided it but nowadays in the west if some people really dont like something then the people that like it are usually not allowed to enjoy it anymore.
@@sofiipote7 The difference is that most of the time in the past even if people complained about something the companys did it anyway but nowadays if people complain about stuff then the companys usually dont want to do it anymore. TV shows, movies, cartoons, video games and comics used to make fun of the people that complained about these kind of things all the time but now they are scared of those people instead. The companys also used to care about profit and earning money the most but these days being politically correct is usually even more important to them even if they would earn way more money if they did not care about that stuff. And it was in the 2010s it became the way things are like right now so we had the internet long before it became the way things are like nowadays.
The reason the demon makes Vicky cut her wrists is so she passed away completely and the demon takes full control. Just before that Art seems very annoyed with the real Vicky cuddling with the rats and using his horn, we don't see the annoyance anywhere in the film after that point
Edit: to preface, no, you are not a bad person if you like Terrifier 1. Me explaining why someone wouldn’t like it does NOT mean you’re bad for liking it. If you just want to see special effects and gore, have fun. Disagreeing with me doesn’t mean that you’re in the wrong, opinions are subjective etc etc etc. ANYWAYS. It’s less that it’s “problematic” and more that the first Terrifier feels like being edgy for edgelord’s sake. At least personally, the first movie falls into the pitfall of a lot of slashers falls into: there’s not much substance beyond “what if the character got killed dead and it was really bloody and cringe inducing”. 2 and 3 are a step in the right direction, but I don’t blame someone who doesn’t want to give them a chance because 1 was too much for them
This is how I felt about it at first until I really considered the meaning of why the choices were even made about what would be edgy. Then I realized how problematic I personally found it. I think stuff being try hard edgy is really usually a way of expressing problematic views without taking responsibility or realizing it about yourself But that's just where I've ended up on this
Everything is “edgy” nowadays. But, I’m pretty sure why people liked Terrifer was because for one, Art isn’t a misunderstood villain character. He’s evil to be evil. No sob story. Two, the blood and gore. Even more with the other movies. Not everything needs to be “substance” to be entertaining. Some people like to shut off their brains, and enjoy what’s in the screen. It’s literally splatterpunk.
@bimates2690 saying people don't wanna think and just wanna shut off their brain to watch women get tortured and have a good time isn't really the argument you think it is
This is gonna be a weird comparison, but the marketing of Terrifier 3 reminds me a lot of the "Your mom hates Dead Space 2" ad from when that game was coming out.
@@deathseekr1537 There was an old interview in a PlayStation Magazine where they talked to some of the people behind the original GTA, and the interviewer asked "Why should people play your game?" And I kid you not, one of them responded with "Peer pressure and Satan." Whether they were being serious or not, it's still incredibly funny.
Marketing is there to sell a product. Terrifier ad campaigns, and the Dead Space 2, you would not see this kind of marketing repeat itself so much if it didn't work.
Ultimately, Art the Clown will be remembered similarly to Michael Meyers, Jason, Freddy, and Chucky. Great and iconic villains who were most bad movies. Out of the 5 names listed, there is maybe 3 great movies and 2 good movies out of the like 30 or so movies they have combined. Simply put, shocking and gorey slashers with recognizable villains will always do well in theaters around Halloween. They will always be successful even if it means diminishing returns at some point. Terrifier simply joins the ranks of medicore horror franchises that survive off of seasonal trends and good marketing
I think Terrifier 2 and 3 are already a cut above those other franchises average quality, and assuming Leone actually does stop at 4 or 5, it’ll be more akin to like Evil Dead which is known for having an incredibly high batting average for a horror franchise
I just found it weird that a majority of his kills are women, cause they’re so explicit and brutal . Like all of the main characters are female it’s weird that a film with such gruesome and graphic kills are almost all done done to women. It’s definitely questionable
@ That is true but this is fiction and it’s clearly not meant to mimic reality. Most serial killers didn’t scalp their victims after pretending to go trick or treating at their house.
@@khaki9337 so? Doesnt make women any harder to kill even if its fictional. If art the clown suddenly started flying and shooting lasers out of his eyes people would complain about it. Even tho its fictional
@@purplebruh947 why does it have to be women though? why? what purpose does that serve? you'd have to be this ignorant on purpose to pretend that there aren't horror movies that exist just to exploit women and their suffering whle also sexualizing them, and to then pretend that's not gross. i think damien leone listened to the criticsm, because in the third movie it's more balanced for sure. but the first movie is the text book defintion of torture porn, and to be fair i think you could call the 2nd and 3rd movie that too if you wanted to. i enjoy terrifier because i love art and sienna, and the writing has gotten better. but then again i'm biased, obviously. i want to make excuses, but it's weird. it's weird. we need to stop only fucking torturing women in horror movies and then getting mad when people point it out. you need to think more critically if you refuse to notice the blantant misogyny in horror movies and the genre as a whole.
This is a great dissection! You explained exactly why I find the films appealing. I’m a woman, and I like the slasher genre (even the really bad ones). Terrifier stands out to me Because of Sienna honestly. This sounds like the bar is too low but like…her having a distinct hobby sets her apart from a lot of final girls. And I love the final girl as a trope! But her interest in cosplay in makeup playing a big part of her character is just great. She also doesn’t feel like she just suddenly jumps into the savior role after having no signs of being one for the rest of the movie. She’s already hyper vigilant and willing to stand up to Art before she even knows what he can do. Also the sheer amount of improvement in each movie makes it clear the Damien is listening to what people’s problems are. Most of 3’s death scenes involve men. Also you crushing on Vicky is relatable.
This is an interesting take! I’m also a woman, and I found the first movie to be disproportionately violent towards women, and when the movie starts to feel sexist it’s not fun anymore. But you saying that the director has tried to remedy that makes me wonder if I should try 2 and 3? Idk though, I really only like gore if it serves a good story, not just gore for the sake of gore. But thanks for sharing your thoughts, I feel like most terrifier fans are men so it’s good to hear your take on it
@ there’s actually way more women than you’d think! But I get why people assume it’s mostly men haha. I do recommend 2 and 3, though 2 has a scene that’s pretty violent against a woman I’ll warn you of that. But it feels less Like That because of characters like Sienna and her mom. 3 is a lot better. But also, if you don’t like crazy gore 2 and 3 may still not be your thing. Part of the appeal to me is the over the top unrealistic gore.
@@alyssestephens7726 i hated the first movie but i absolutely loved the sequels (especially 3) and it was mainly for sienna but also the fact the director had clearly listened to criticism. 2 does have a death scene that was tbh too far for me but i watched 3 first out of context and i think it's really the best representation of this franchise so far with an actual plot and characters, not exactly LESS gore but not every death is drawn out and some are even offscreen
The character itself is cool. His design, personnality, over the top kills and humour are pretty good. The practical effects are great. Even if I'm not a fan of it, his "lore" is appreciable. The movies themselves suck though. The acting is terrible, the pacing is bad, the stories are convoluted and go nowhere. There's things to like in there but as a whole, it's not good. I'm very happy that it is succesfull though. The people working on it are passionate and it shows. It's fun if you like the character, over the top gore and great effects.
“The pacing is bad” is an understatement. Watching Terrifier 2 felt like being stuck in school again in the most boring class. You think an hour has passed but in reality it was only 10 minutes.
i mean ur opinion is ur opinion but i really do think the story has grown sm being a fan since the first one. idk i get u i do but i feel like its jus getting better and stronger thanks to the best final girl sienna
I've only watched the first one. Do the special effects, gore and the such, get better with the others? To me they looked just like something out of Monty Python in quality
1:17:52 I’ll just add here. No, the targets of violence being young women doesn’t make it misogynistic. But part of the reason I have a hard time watching the Terrifier films is because Art often chooses his targets through classic means of gendered violence, and there’s a lot of enacted gendered violence. Like stalking a girl on a bus, r-pe (including with the chainsaw), harassing women in stores, etc., and I don’t think the statement “it’s a trope that makes you more empathetic” is a critical engagement with that trope at all. Especially since it also doesn’t address the fact that when this level of violence happens to men, it includes anal r-pe, which is also a gendered violence that highlights the connection between femme- and LGBT+-targeted violence. To do this work in general, I’d like to see more critical and artistic engagement with that trope to consider why this kind of violence is what we want for ‘empathetic’ and sensational storytelling.
4:37 alright if you really want to know, I was helping my sibling out with his School project which was to make a mini shoe box ofrenda for Dia de Los Muertos (Day of the Day). I decided to put this video on as background while I cut some papel picado (cut paper) and painted the clay candles, pan de Muerto (Bread of the Dead) and torta my brother made. After my legs went numb from sitting, I had finished and went into watching more of your video essays (I find you to be pretty relaxing to listen to while making art as a Studio Art major) It turned out pretty cute despite us finishing so late. Worth it and he ended up getting a very good grade on it.
I’m sorry but these movies just sound like baby’s first religious symbolism, especially the last one with the ham-fisted references like the crown of thorns and the warrior angel
Eh. It was Christmas themed so they probably just threw on the costumes like the same as the Santa one. The warrior angel had something to do with the dad as an artist
Issue with Terrifier it's that it's just not that good as people hype it out to be and mostly what stands out is the long and violent scenes of Art murdering people which is pretty boring. These movies are not scary, only shocking and that only for some. Yet they are promoted by it's fans as some big thing, when it really isnt
@@ratking7383 I genuinely thought the appeal WAS because the first movie had a very low budget, like it's good because it's bad right? I had no idea people genuinely thought it was well made and amazing lol
I love how differently religious themes in media get handled by different people. It can tell you a lot about them. You got the "tell me you were raised Catholic without telling you were raised Catholic" (My Chemical Romance), religious folks that are chill, creative, and a little fucked up (Doom and Faith: The Unholy Trinity), and satire (the band Ghost). Terrifier either falls in the first or third camp.
@theforgivingwarrior A lot of the imagery through the different eras is inspired by Catholic motifs, and the lyrics discuss themes of death, the afterlife, and redemption (or the lack thereof). Definitely not for everyone, but look up the "Helena" music video. It's a showcase of most of these ideas.
In my opinion, the misogyny in horror are those rules/tropes of the promiscuous woman who is killed because she had sex, compared to the final girl who survived for being a 'pure virgin'. This was something they actually tried to push in the 70 and 80s. If you have sex that means you'll die. (Men and women). Even the scream movie referenced this. When the killer said the main character wasn't safe anymore once she lost her virginity. Other people think the inclusion of assault and abuse is also part of misogyny. I disagree. Those things happen, and they are horrifying. Look at actual serial killers and a good share of them assault their victims before or after death. The only time i think something is misogynist is when the creators are telling women they will suffer a certain outcome if they act the wrong way. (Like having sex or dressing unmodest.) Obviously, there's more to speak on and look into on this topic. But I'm not trying to make a college essay over here. As a woman, i love horror, and i love art, the clown.
I think the issue people have is less with the abuse and assault in general and more so with how it’s portrayed. like a lot of older horror movies have scenes involving those things that are very objectifying and seem almost like they’re meant to be more titillating than terrifying. there are many examples of these things being portrayed in tasteful ways though and I don’t think people should forget about that. I’m very against the idea that real world problems shouldn’t be shown in fiction. I actually think it’s really important to shed a light on abuse through art. to me it just depends on the context and portrayal of it all. your perspective is interesting tho! it’s good to see conversations around horror become more dominated by women who can judge this stuff based on your own experiences
I just somehow don't think sexual assault and rape is presented well in slashers. It's more "isn't that wacky?" "Oh isn't that gross?" "LOL look at her"
The trope came out of the 70s/80s when women were becoming more open and free. It's basically the world vs. said women. If you look into the history of horror, you will see a LOT of genres were born from events/changes in society. Horror literally tells the timeline of how people are changing over time.
This clown supposed to be scarry unlike normal clowns, who should be funny, but it's the opposite. Terrifier looks so hilarious to me I genuinely lough at the movie clips. Especially his face expressions are making me smile. He just seems so friendly. Meanwhile normal clowns look like nightmare fuel sometimes. I know this movie is gore and mourder and all, but the terrifier himself is cute plushie material.
I meeeaaaan everyone said the same thing about the Evil Dead franchise and those have gone on to be cult classics so it’s no surprise to me that the same thing is happening with Terrifier.
I get that not everyone likes splatter genre movies, but like. It’s really wild to hear that the gore is pointless, and “gore for gore’s sake” as if that’s innately bad. Splatter is genuinely one of the most interesting types of movies in my opinion-you’re focused on a level of artistry that’s often ignored. Doing SFX and practical effects that splatter films are known for is incredibly difficult and undeniably one of the most difficult art forms out there. It’s difficult enough drawing/painting/sculpting humans. Now try doing so in a way that inserts over the person so you can explode their head. I get not liking gore, but like. Why can’t people who appreciate the art in that just enjoy it???
My problem isn’t gore for the sake of gore, it’s how smug the franchise feels about it. This could just be me, but it felt like every time Art did something messed up, it was almost like someone was pointing at the screen and just going “wasn’t that so messed up?” repeatedly, if that makes sense. I feel like the best example of this isn’t in the movies ironically, but in the advertising. A big part of advertising for the third movie was about people throwing up while watching the movie in theatres, once again like having someone point at the screen and just go “wasn’t that so messed up?” If a movie wants to be gore for the sake of gore, that’s fine. The Saw franchise is absolutely guilty of that, and those movies are still good. The main differences are that Saw actually has an interesting story, and that while it still takes pride in its kills, it doesn’t feel nearly as smug about it
If you shove 30 oranges in your mouth, sure its a lot of effort, but it won't get you a place in the olympic gymnastics team. Rather maybe a one-off at the circus.
@@gamingmaster6377 theyre saying you can acknowledge something requires a lot of talent and work to accomplish even if you dont like it. i dont like junji ito's work but i recognize he has talent and puts a lot of effort into it. its not that hard
Save for me falling and breaking out my nose, teeth, and breaking my arm then having to take Jimmy John's to court to sue to them to fix me whilst going bankrupt and everything in my apartment was breaking down. Now it's no injuries (but I am still affected by my old injuries of 2016 including horrible migraines and skull thickening from my nose causing mental issues), broken back teeth, I'm permanently disabled, husband is on strike/waiting to return to work, and things in my house are breaking down. >.
I have a hard time taking the director seriously when he claims that r*pe is "too far" and "Art would never do that" when the chainsaw murder is an homage to older slasher post/during coitus death scenes that emphasize the penetration of the victim. He tries to have it both ways by pretending he's a scholar of slasher and splatter films and then acting like his scenes aren't doing what they are clearly doing, in the context of films in these genres. It's also absurd for him to claim he doesn't show children being brutally murdered when the teens in 2 are literally children. Once again, he tried to have it both ways, and him claiming that it would be too disturbing, given how the entire point of the gore in these films is to be disturbing... Maybe he thinks his arguments make sense, but to me they ring as hollow as his asserting that his weirdly 50s tinged views on men and women's roles is the reason why he films things the way he does. Sounds exactly like someone who holds misogynistic views being called out and appealing to an imagined archetype as their defense of said views. Sure the plot is literally there, however Warhammer 40k has a plot (or more precisely a narrative) but the only reason it does is to sell toys... Which... Given the amount of things you can buy associated with this franchise.... Yeah, the mere presence of a cohesive narrative doesn't mean it's not simply there to prop up death scenes. That being said: if someone wants to make splatter films... That's what they should do, I used to watch them a lot myself, but for me, it came to a point where there's really no tension in most films like this, and tension is the real powerhouse of horror, the terrifier franchise feels like I'm watching a Cannibal Corpse album, as a film, and the thing about that is, Cannibal Corpse is only scary for people who don't want to listen to them. Since I'm cool with it, it's just a repetition of the signifiers of fear, without any actual fear occuring. The end sequence of the original "Wicker Man" is easily like ten times more distressing on an emotional level than the madcap splatter of terrifier, even though I can appreciate the F/X masterpieces that they are, it just feels like a fun house ride. And perhaps that's intentional and has deeper meaning (in a more meta sense) than I'm giving credit but, I just don't care ultimately. The films just don't compel me into caring that much. The phenomena of people watching it, and their fascination with it, is much more interesting to me. And so I enjoyed this video quite a lot.
Yeah that part didnt make much sense. He says that r*pe "distrubs him", but like does that mean that he doesnt find all the other things in the movie disturbing? Idk really how to explain but it just feels really forced and scummy
Older slashers don't depict rape either, I take Terrifier as a continuation of like Nightmare on Elm St and Hellraiser and Friday the 13th, it would be as out of place as if Jason started raping someone, that's not the character
It's strange to say he isn't sexual, while he repeatidly target sexual part (dicks and breasts) as well as the chainsaw scene that just... Well there isn't a way to say it isn't sexual in anyway. But saying "r*ape is too far" while having theses scenes feel like a straight lie or just a way to shield form critics.
Personally i dont care for terrifet at all. I rented the second movie cause i heard it was well terrifying and went in blind. I finished the movie cause i paid for it, but i personally was bored. I dont care for gore, it can be used well, but only gore just doesn't scare me, nor am i someone whos easily grossed out by that stuff. I kind of liked the artistic vibe it had at first, but it very quickly turned into just 2 and a half hours of this adult man killing mostly teenage girls in brutal ways. That w the fact that it was already easier on the guys only to then find out they cut a scene w a male victim bc they were worried id make the audience uncomfortable was not it. I mean this is terrifier, your going to show me all that not holding back at all on the teen girls, but cut one of the few male kills? Theres clearly a reason why one was seen as to far and the other not even if unintentional. It all just gave me the ick so i personally will not go see the new one.
They didnt cut out any male kill lol. The dude still got killed and his 🍆 got torn off. They just had an idea to make the kill more over the top (making a balloon animal out of it and then feeding it to the guy), but then they decided its distasteful.
@chaotix7275 as I said In my original comment they cut a scene, the scene w the added torture. Which was apparently distasteful, but the bedroom scene of killings children in 3 wasn't? Really..?
@@diepvrieskoe1335 I was correcting your misinformation where you said they cut out entire male kill scene, nothing much else really. Im not Damien Leone and i dont know whats going on inside his head and why he finds this particular idea as a bigger no no than the kills in TF1-TF3.
@chaotix7275 pls re read my comment. You cannot correct me or a claim I never made. I said they cut out A scene w a male victim. Not that they cut the whole kill. They cut the scene were they used 'it' as a balloon making it a very very tame kill and it being one of the few male kills
Honestly I hate how a lot of people's only real criticism for Terrifier and fimiliar films is " theyre gorey and gross! That's exploitative! " which is an argument which has never really made sense to me. I wish people were more willing to hve nuanced takes on the matter instead of just gorey = bad
I thought the dad's drawings were explained in Terrifier 2 and 3 subtextually. The dad is a prophet, being given visions of the future. He sees Sienna fighting Art in her Halloween costume and bases his drawing on her (in the flashback/nightmare scene from Terrifier 3 it seems like he is gripped by another vision as he passes Sienna the drawing). I would assume that his mental illness mostly stems from being forced to see the suffering and fear to which his daughter would be subjected. I don't pretend to know the extent of his visions but he may also have been tormented by visions of his wife and son being brutally murdered
I absolutely HATEEEEE the terrifier series the only thing I somewhat like is Art's design but otherwise it's just too gorey and annoyingly disgusting for me. This video was a good way to learn about the series without ever getting into it 👍🏾
1:37 i do not see it as transphobic AT ALL, but theres a scene where art wears a girls hair and boobs and parades around so maybe thats what theyre referring to 😭
I see it as a nod towards serial killers like Ed Gein, only more exaggerated in presentation because he's a literal evil clown whose sole purpose is to be edgy shock value.
If characters in a movie said, "We're going to see Terrifier, it's about an evil clown from Hell who mutilates people" it would be recognized as a funny comment on low-effort, no-stakes horror, but somehow as a real movie it's an inescapable touchstone.
As a Catholic, I really appreciate the religious themes. Sienna is very much a Christ figure and Terrifier 3 is very much the passion she undergoes. Demons will always try to mock and belittle God, but as Terrifier 3 shows, the Holy and good will always prevail.
I personally really like how Art acts, I like how he’s silly in personality but also awfully insane. The Terrifier franchise has its potential, SOMETIMES, but it does often just go through the wall and add the most unnecessary shots and ideas. 💀
i absolutely loved the terrifier films. is the first film terrible? yes its so bad. but it is unbearably funny. the terrifier movies are so masterful at combining gore with slapstick and other physical comedy. art helps this along by always pointing and laughing at the funny things he does. thanks art! you're right, that was really funny!
1:17:11 I fully agree with this! Saw is one of my all time favorite franchises with its creative kills and its convoluted story (ESPECIALLY when Mark Hoffman is introduced). Always preferred the story more than the kills tho.
I actually watched the first movie with my new bf who didn't know how squeamish i was (I love horror, but I'm more of a psychological girlie) and I THOUGHT because it was so popular that it couldn't be that bad! It'll be like scream I thought! I was mistaken :') Ended up crying and having a panic attack on the upside down scene. I'm glad you acknowledged the striking difference between the marketing/advertising and the actual content bc it is SUPER misleading imo
And your feelings are completely valid! I personally love these films (still gotta see 3, and AHE is honestly pretty meh for me for most the runtime since Art's barely there) but I totally understand why others can't stomach them or even hate them outright.
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To me, Terrifier is what Aron Beauregard’s books should be: scary, funny, disturbing in the right ways, and most importantly, have actual good characters that we care about and writing. It’s not just “disturbing just for the sake of disturbing” it’s an actual fun experience to sit through and not want to rather watch paint dry for better entertainment.
I'll admit, I was one of those people who thought these movies were just gore and nothing else before watching but I do feel like that's a fault of the marketing. It's very "Your mom hates Dead Space" type thing, completely juvenile and obnoxious, which I thought reflected the film. My impression of the creator also wasn't great. I assumed that he was one of the "relax snowflakes, it's called dark humor" types. This video really changed my mind, while I definitely think there's a juvenile aspect, the movies seem like they have more layers than I gave them credit for. I probably would have hated the first movie, but 2 and 3 definitely have more for me to bite onto. I also actually found myself liking Art, brutal slasher killers who treat what they're doing like a prank or a joke are something I like in a film like this. If you're going to do a goofy slasher, then a goofy villain fits the bill, I also liked the performance of Art's actor quite a lot. My impression of the creator definitely has improved, while his defensiveness over the misogyny isn't great (I think he definitely shows a very not stellar point of view in his statement) I do actually appreciate his refusal to involve rape in his movies, and also his surprising amount of tact he shows in the themes, and how he thinks about balancing that desire to shock the audience without relying on something more cheap like a child's on camera death. Overall walked away from this one with a much more positive view of the films than I did initially. Great video.
I think a lot of people watch it for the art and... art (pun intended) he's just a very fun and funny character and the way it's all over the top is very campy imo. the practical effects are phenomenal and I've seen nothing like it
I can’t speak for everyone but I enjoy murderous characters that can be silly and from the little content I’ve seen from the fandom Art’s silliness is a big appeal of the series. Also overdramatized things have always been something I personally enjoy and over dramatic is definitely one of the words I would use to describe the murder scenes. Sadly I didn’t really care about anything else when I watched the second movie tho(I can’t say much about the third cause I haven’t seen it yet)
I'm glad to see someone talking about this! I'm known by friends and family to be the one that's into gore, horror, etc. but I've always hated Terrifier. I've only seen the first one and haven't bothered with the other two, so read this with that in mind. I see people compare Terrifier to Saw in the fact that it's a lot of intentionally over-the-top gore, but even there Saw is better because there's some sort of context to the gore that makes it more than just gore; the traps people are put in are related to the victim and/or are just conceptually interesting. I stand in the camp of thinking Terrifier, meanwhile, is just torture porn. It's girls in slutty Halloween costumes gasping and stumbling down spooky hallways, gawking and stammering when faced with this dude that's just being a creepy freak, getting stabbed in the ankle so there's a three minute long scene of them screaming and moaning and kicking that destroys any tension of a victim trying to actually avoid someone who really wants to kill them, and then being murdered in vulgar ways purely for shock value. Is there any background we're given at any point, some insight into why our characters may be in this position (either the motives of Art or some "reason" the main characters may be experiencing this as "karma?") Nope! It's just girls getting tortured and killed. I get that that's the point, I guess, but again, that's also the point of torture porn; drawing out some unrealistic, wrong fantasy with no rhyme or reason other than "just because." Maybe I looked too far into it as a woman who has been victimized by weird men and am paranoid because of that experience, but it just felt like something for dudes who actually want to do that kind of shit to insert themselves in Art's place. The faceless interview lady at the beginning and end just feels like a cheap creepypasta type thing tacked on to make the movie seem like more than it really is. The entire movie just ended up being so uninteresting and uncomfortable, like watching a porn that you're not into and all you can focus on if how hammed-up the actors are being.
i feel like there is definitely more of a story in 2 and 3, and 1 feels like dogshit in comparison to those two. i feel like with 4, we will get answers as to who art is and why he does what he does, and i think with that a trilogy of 2, 3, and 4 could actually be good quality horror with a story as well as over the top gore. i've also heard that the first was pretty much just made so leone could have enough money to make terrifier 2, which he had been dreaming of making since 2008, but i dont know for sure. there's also always the chance that 4 is the same as all the others, with just no backstory to art and it's just more violence. i feel like that would definitely take away a LOT from the franchise, as a part of the big reason why i like the movies is the mystery behind art, and trying to piece it together, and waiting for a somewhat clearer answer. i also feel like there are *some* mildly creative kills in the terrifier franchise, but most of the creativity comes from how over the top they are, they're not basic, but also not particularly creative.
I don't think anybody watches Terrifier rooting for Art the Clown to kill those people, definitely not the same way you do with Jason or Freddy. One thing I like about terrifier is that the characters are usually likable people that you're scared for whenever they encounter Art
hey you should be more careful with flashing lights in your videos around 1:13:38 theres no warning its gonna happen. hope this doesnt come off as rude, i just have seizures so i end up being more hyper vigilant with these things. love the video and you inspired me to give terrifier a chance
I dislike every one of these movies. I think the practical effects are amazing and are the only reasons I have watched the films, but gore for the sake of gore was never for me. Also, I am a tad bit sick of seeing women take the brunt of violence in these movies because it is such an overdone trope (for lack of a better word). "OMG, the woman is gonna die." I also think the actor that plays the clown is amazing, and I totally get why people like these films. The pr is amazing, too. The first one is definely the worst one. Edgy for the sake of edgy. Again, I am 100% not this films audience, so I try not to bash it too much, but oh god, is the 1st movie awful. I also think a big reason people don't like these films is because they're not trying to say anything. There is no moral or meaning, so some people read too much into it and try to assign it one. "So many women died = movie doesn’t like women." People want a leason in their movies, so they will often assign it one even if it's nonsense.
I read all hollows eve and the first one as hating women, because in all hollows eve he literally strips a woman and puts derogatory words for women all over her body and then in the first terrifier he just generally does oddly sexual torture methods to the women while the men get normal gory ends. Perhaps the director didn't mean to, but the films definitely treat it's women in a particularly objectifying way. (2 and 3 are more equal opportunity, so I think they got a little better in that area.)
Splatter is my favorite genre of horror because everyone acts like it was made in the 2010's/2000's but it actually originates as a 1980's book genre called "splatterpunk". The idea of "horror without limits" is just so interesting to me mainly because of morbid curiosity and just how awful of a scenario someone can imagine and write/script. There are so many movies im surprised arent classed as splatter like pink flamingos and literally any movie the shameless company makes dvds of.
I haven’t watched any of the Terrifier movies cause I heard about the woman being sawed in half down the middle & that was enough for me to be like N O P E. I don’t do genital mutilation, especially not involving bodies of the same sex as myself. That on top of hearing how mean spirited the franchise is just more nope. Not for me.
Absolutely agree. It makes me very uncomfortable and it’s so weird the amount of people that come out of the woodworks trying to invalidate that opinion by saying you’re “sensitive” or something like that for thinking that way.
@@alatusedits Except some of us understand it's fake?? I've seen horrible real life gore, having to help people with real medical stuff (and since I and my family are disabled, it's bound to happen) so I am used to seeing it but it doesn't mean that I am watching these only to desensitize myself. I've been raised on horror since I was 3. I love horror. I know it's all not real save for the stuff based on true stories, which I then go to learn about so I can honor the victims and such. I love horror because it can deal with a lot of the themes I deal with in my disabilities/life. It also has good storytelling or characters. In this, Art is very funny outside of his kills. It doesn't mean there's something wrong with me for enjoying the movies or anything like that.
Terrifier isn’t a “legal snuff film” because Terrifier is a PAID PRODUCTION. It’s a THEATRICAL FILM. People were PAID to make it on a SET with well-known ACTORS. People are getting mad at a GORE movie for having GORE.
@@HxtBot Snuff films are ilegal films because it’s literally a murder caught on tape. Cartel execution videos are usually snuff films. Don’t worry, I’m also sensitive to gore stuff so I never watched or even searched it up lmfao. I’m just repeating what I’ve heard on the internet and Wendigoon videos.
I don’t think people are mad that a gore movie obviously comes with gore. They are bothered with the “gore” genre over all. Terrifier just happens to be the runner up at the moment so thats why they are criticizing it.
I can confirm terrifier fans are extremely annoying because my friends started to watch it during class and they would not stop YELLING whenever they saw art 💀💀💀
You too? I know this one girl who makes Terrifier and Joker her entire personality and I can confirm she's . . . uncomfortable to be around. Also the biggest music snob I've ever met.
@@theMyRadiowasTaken Agree. The only ones I’ve met fall into the edge-lord category. The whole “you guys just don’t wanna see it bc yall are soft and babies🤪” thing.
@@goodnightblu yeah, most of them are like urban spooks fans. Just a bunch of edgelord being edgy. I actually like terrifier though, just cause it was kinda unpredictable what he would do. Since he has very horrid ways of killing and doesn't even speak.
my friends and i tried to watch the first one on halloween; we didnt turn it off because it was ahh scary, we turned it off because its genuinely fucking ass. and i mean yeah i dont wanna see a woman get sawed in half pussy-first, these movies just love torturing naked women like no thanks. put on saw 2004 and it was incredible
A friend pressured me into watching the first film, and it scared me a bit. Spent its entire duration laughing at the plot, acting, setting, etc.. Honestly, I find it surprising people like this thing. If its purpose is just a "brutal, gory, etc." film there are already many better choices. The plot seemed cheap, with little thought put into it, and what I'd think would be better at the cost of it, the special effects, make-up and the such, isn't really, it's worse in that aspect than older films even. I'm easily, EASILY, scared, but this movie looked almost as if someone wanted to make a critic of the genre by making it the funniest possible, by means of making it ridiculous and unrealistic, which I get it, it's not meant to, but it just kept me from even getting into the plot. Heck, the gory parts (the bisected blond woman, for example) reminded me about "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"'s Black Knight when he's been "de-limbed" (don't know the word in English), which seemed quite hilarious to me. Not me, but one of the other people I had watched it with, halfway through the movie, did mention it seemed that the protagonist (meaning the clown) seemed to be a bit misogynistic, with him murdering the women particularly more brutally than the men, and the women characters being quite stupid, exploiting just some stereotypes (cat lady, stupid blonde) and also wearing the woman's parts, the latter jut seeming gratuitous and besides the point. Looking at it like that, it does seem like it is, or at least the character is meant to be (in which case then whomever thought up the movie and script is just flat-out bad at their job and lacking in creativity). After reading some transcripts about the creator's thoughts, it seems to me he leaned quite too much into some tropes.
I think most people know art the clown and his GRUsome kills I remember watching elvis the alien video about terrifier & that saw-in-half kill was stuck on my mind for days
I think the transphobia claim comes from the scene where Art skins the homeless woman and dances around wearing her hair and boobs, it gives off a very buffalo bill kinda vibe Edit: Yes, buffalo bill is a transphobic character, that I'd objectively true. No, I am not saying this movie is transphobic, so pointing out that any of the actors are queer is irrelevant. Also, anyone being outright transphobic here, you're commenting on a video by a trans creator.
Yeahhh anyone claiming that’s transphobia is an idiot Feels more like classic Art the Clown shenanigans. That sounds more like Buffalo Bill like you mentioned, or even Ed Gein
@mrsurge4789 I wouldn't say they're stupid. The horror genre has a history of transphobia and that scene invokes a lot of the same imagery. Even if that wasn't the intention, the implication is undeniably there.
@amazingspiderlad sexism, homophobia, and transphobia are so prevalent in media especially horror, that it doesn't even register as being there if you're not educated to it or part of those groups. It's really not meant as an attack to the audience until they start calling people names when it gets brought up. Advocating for less internalized bigotry from the media that gets fed to millions of people isn't really the censorship problem some people think it is. It's just about respect and being better. Ironically terrifier was the first movie where I was like...wait a minute yo...this seems kinda gross. And not in the way the creators think it is I'm very much not the target audience I guess
My problem with this movie is that it offers nothing but shock media, it is as mid as a movie can be, and the only thing I like is the terriclown, I think it could've been executed way better if the writers actually wrote something at least mildly interesting and satisfying to watch instead of empty edgy stuff. For me, this series is a solid 5/10 being very generous.
As someone who's waaaaaaaaaay too chicken to actually watch these movies (although I love horror in general, the gore levels here just sound a touch too high), this video has gotten me extremely invested in the plot and themes, particularly Sienna's arc. I almost wish there was a fan-cut of the movies that cuts around the gory bits, something like "Terrifier: The Plot Cut" although ik that's kind of an insult to the effects work and to the people who like the gore, for me I would love to watch the parts of the movies that delve into character and plot stuff but wouldn't know where to skip around to avoid the #gross. Anyway thanks for making the video, it's great!
I don't think it's either. One of the biggest complaints of Terrifier that I see is that it's just gore and nothing else, but honestly not all movies have to be deep and intricate. Sometimes all people want is goofy clown killing people in absurdly gruesome ways and it really delivers in that aspect. The films are nothing groundbreaking in terms of story, but it's some of the most fun I've had watching slasher films in a while. Art the clown is also just an insanely memorable and fantastic villain. I think the director knew exactly what he wanted the series to be and executed it perfectly. The movies truly feel like a love letter to the cheesy grindhouse slasher films of the 80s. I think most people understood this up until Terrifier 3 released. The first 2 films we're kind of cult classics. Terrifier 3 is the entry that made the series hit the mainstream, and I think most of the outrage stems from the fact that most people aren't used to films with this much violence and gore, especially ones that received theatrical releases. Terrifier 3 definitely pushed the boundaries for what can be shown in theaters, but it is farrr from the first ultra violent and disturbing film ever made. I'd argue there's many, way worse movies out there than Terrifier but Terrifier takes all the blame because of how popular it became
I think the problem it's the extremely edgy discourse around the movies, from the fans and the trailers, They oftenly focus on the shock factor instead of the characters or storytelling which is not bad at itself but it's obviously left aside for the gore scenes. I honestly won't be interested in watching a movie when their main appeal is "It's very scary 😢😮". Even some of my friends talked about how everybody is going there probably thinking they are so 'special and edgy, against the woke' for liking the movies and I think a part of the public thinks the same about art the clown.
4:40 Not an artist, but currently crocheting a Gandalf plush for my college's Tolkien Society to make up for hounding them for interviews for a journalism project. His head is turning out way too big but nevertheless I persist.
As a Ice Nine Kills fan, I cannot suggest more the song than “A Work of Art”. I suggest them if you like metal and horror because they have a ton of good songs based off famous horror and thriller franchises (Resident Evil, Evil Dead, Nightmare on Elm, Friday the 13th, Halloween, etc.)
Honestly, I love these movies. It’s a horror movie. Splatter, gore, uses heavy sounds and also lack of music here and there. It really just is as the name suggest, “terrifier”. But I really just hate that there will always be media overhyping the gore and their constant repetition of people throwing up, fainting, gagging, leaving, covering their eyes and ears and whatnot. Sure it happens but they really go to the point of paying people to overreact for reaction cams, and then have a scoop… That and also the overwhelming lack of age control for people who watch it. It is NOT for kids. Age restricted. And where I’m from, in France, it is the first movie to have received a “pg 18” in twenty years! The last one being Saw 3. Yeah. That is how hard it is to get such rating in France.
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i never imagined this would happen but good for you bro
Can just be lots and lots of guts. I think you're thinking of torture genre. There is a difference. Terrifier kind of goes into both categories at the same time being fun. It feels like an 80s slasher film where it makes it fun to watch.
The movie made me uncomfortable in a good way. Sometimes movies that tester limits are a good thing. This movie achieve that and made it entertaining at the same time.
I like them all they're all pretty much fun slasher movies to me.
I thought the original Art was good. However David Howard Thornton is Leaps and Bounds better than the original actor. I met the actor who played art the clown David Howard Thornton he's awesome.
I worked at a fancy dress shop this halloween the amount of 10-14 yr olds asking me if we had art the clown in childrens sizes was insane
I wonder if it's because of the little assistant character called the little pale girl
It's like pennywise, Jason, or Freddy Kruger.
Most of thie kids haven't seen the movies, they just like the characters.
When I went to go see the 3rd move, a family of 4 with LITTLE KIDS came into the theater during a kill, but it must have been a mix-up in room numbers bc the mom immediately whisper-yelled “Wrong room, let’s go” to her kids- one of them stayed behind for a good 2 minutes before scampering off- they look NO OLDER THAN 6..💀💀💀
That's pretty tame tbh. At least they are teenagers or close to that
hella cool
Terrifier is fine but im just so tired of all of the promotional material solely being "we have a scene so scary people were puking, crying, and shitting in the theaters!?!?!!"
edit: im not trashing the movies, ive never seen them and i understand everything id subjective. im just talking about the marketing
Same, honestly. It makes it sound super edgy and makes me roll my eyes.
@@I_Like_Ike53 yeah I wanna know I’m CUM in the terrified movie
Yeah I all they talk about is “YOUR GONNA DIE IN THIS MOVIE” meanwhile I wanna know will I nut for the clown?
That's part of why I avoid these movies like the plague despite being someone who writes torture. If that's your number one selling point, then that's just telling me you're trying to be as shocking as possible and as the other replied said, super edgy. It almost reminds me of those mobile ads where it's like "only 1% of the population can handle this!"
@@abhainn35 don’t let the promos steer you away, sure the movies are super gory. But they don’t take themselves seriously. Especially in the third. It’s more like it’s being so extra it’s hilarious, and they’re very self aware about it
The obsession with pissing in the first film is so funny for some weird reason.
he probably has a piss kink to be fr
Just like with Tarantino and feet, I feel Leone is into watersports and a possible scat fetish.
Terrifier I hardly know her
kirtis conner fan?!
Yeeeees :)
do I smell a fan of 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙈𝘼𝙔𝙊𝙍
@@twisted_pretzlesKurt Conner? I hardly know ’er.
**Jim Lahey falling**
*insert laugh track*
I think terrified has its place in horror, but it runs into the problem that saw had. Basically you can only do so much gory blood and guts before people just get jaded by it and stop caring.
but the difference between both films is that saw has been going for TWENTY YEARS. having ELEVEN MOVIES and a very very very confusing but VERY much there plot
terrifier has only 3 movies so far; you barely see their deaths coming and the lore forces you to actually dig DEEP to understand ANY of it, eventually, yes, people will get tired by the gore, but if saw can make it through 11 movies, terrifier can last just as long while keeping shock value
The director was just talking about this on a podcast. He wants to be done soon because doesn't want to over do it.
@ he was referring to siennas story; art will still be used to tell other stories :3
The difference is, art is funny to watch, basically Roby Rotten or Mr.Bean of the horror, I can’t never get enough of their funny body acting.
what a stupid argument. just say you don't find it fun. by your argument then gory movies would never "do anything" because I've seen one before. it's not a drug addiction that makes me want something more and something stronger i just want to have fun. i think you're watching movies for the wrong reasons
A small thing about the splatter genre: It was originally made as a protest against restricting censorship. They wanted things to be as gorey or sexual as possible just to gross people out. Though even those stories still had a plot, splatter stories now no longer have plots (mostly). In my opinion it has lost its spark or creativity by lack of quality in the plot in more modern stories
I think I'd really enjoy the genre if it wasn't so unaware of its own bigotry.
@@vainpiers It is, though. The genre was also made as a response to "free" women of the 70s/80s being open about their sexuality and such. Basically the world vs. said women. A lot of horror genres are based on real events/changes in society.
@@NoOneReallySpecialit isnt because sexuality is always a punishment on the women. Women who are openly sexual either harm people or are harmed. Pick up a splatter book and chances are high that its a book by a cishet man where a woman is r4ped and brutalized for the entire runtime. Theres no meanijg to the brutality beyond "isnt that gross!" And tou could easily swap out her being violently r4ped for something else. Stop calling cishet men feminists for writing stories where women are abused you absolute cow.
i wonder who drew the thumbnail i bet he's really handsome and cool and awesome
@@miiilowo who did it
@@melogome bruh
One of my favorite artists jumpscare
@@melogome i think it was the person who made the comment :)
Ok buddy, get back in quinnies basement
Art the Clown is really problematic you shouldn't be giving him attention... he literally killed people
Art like Fart
Why is you'r comment 11 hours ago but the video says posted 6 minutes ago?
Fr like... No one is talking about it🙄 /j
More like Fart
calm down liberal.. it's called dark humor....
Art the Clown is like a bad a creepy pasta villain that somehow got his own movie
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holy hell you're right! Remember Laughing Jack?
I bet some movie directors considered doing movies on Jeff The Killer at one moment, I don't know why but I'm certain (Btw can we talk about how TERRIBLE is this creepypasta ? I've rarely seen something that bad). And for me Art is a combination of Luna Ghost design (very similar and somehow different at the same time, I feel like Luna Ghost (from Scooby-Doo 2002 btw) looks like a alternative universe Art, its hard to explain but I think you'll got it if you check at Luna's picture), Jason powers and like Chucky's sadism (or Freddy Krueger's)
He looks soo similar to laughing jack I actually never got that out of my mind. Like this movie ‘s (1st one) script probably would’ve made it on wattpad in 2012 as a creepypasta and gotten popular lmao
Difference is that 15yo creepy pasta authors are dead serious while Terrifier is tounge in cheek and self aware. It's half tribute to, half parody of slasher movies. The author doesn't claim to have some deep messaging or complex characters in it.
One detail I wanted to point out is that the homeless lady's doll in the first film was named Emily, and the little girl that the pale girl is imitating was named Emily Crayne. My theory is that Art had killed that woman's daughter in the past which drove her crazy.
Yeah, it is basically splatterpunk with Five Nights at Freddy's storytelling.
I noticed she does her makeup pretty well for a homeless person! 🤣Just sayin'.
@AJ-tp9bk Ha ha! Yeah, most movies are like that. Every woman (almost) wants to look good on camera, after all.
@@crazydud3380 i think its more the people making it can do horrific gore, but find a woman not looking perfect isnt fit for tv- absoloute bs if you ask me
@sophiefdez Oh it is. My point was really more that nearly every movie and TV show is guilty of it. I mean, everyone in period pieces tends to have perfect teeth, which certainly isn't accurate.
watching art the clown get cancelled for things we ALL have done 😔
Exactly.
Every single thing?
SMH my head 😮💨
Exactly dude
I hate when i violently bisect a woman and Twitter tries to cancel me, sad days
I really like the portrayal of trauma in Terrifier 3. The way it shows both sides, one trying to move on and one who's stuck, is pretty damn accurate. It was also shown that Johnathan takes paroxetine, which is medication used for depression (mainly), which is something that would def be affecting both of the kids. I love it.
The fact nobody is likening Art's obvious shift from being a living person to being a deathless demonic entity upon his actual demise to Jason Voorhees, who shares the same arc, is genuinely shocking and disappointing.
@@Veiled_Lepidoptera wasn’t he shot in the head and still was alive?
@@Boggarthh he got resurrected after doing that to himself
You got to check horror histories video on art the clown he makes those connections really well.
oh yea
Art only got resurrected to be part of a bigger plan to conjure a demon or satan to the real world. It’s similar but not the same arc
I find it odd that people call the first film “transphobic”. like the guy is an evil psychopath, even if he did do something explicitly transphobic, he’s not supposed to be likeable anyways, he’s literally the villain, I mean that’s like saying Damien Leone wants to brutally murder people because he makes movies about brutal murder, just because it happens in something a person made does not mean it aligns with that person’s beliefs.
also the marketing team basically lied about David Howard Thornton almost puking on set. they made it sound like there was a scene that was so grotesque that it almost brought “Art the Clown himself to becoming nauseous”, when in reality (or so I’ve heard) the real reason was just because of some kinda phobia he had relation to the scene in question. I think it was rats but correct me if I’m wrong.
In an interview, David said the only scene that genuinely kind of bothered him and made him nauseous to do was the tube rat scene, because of the puke. Idk if he genuinely almost hurled, but he said it definitely got him
@ yes there we go, the marketing team really made it sound like the reason was because of some gory aspect of it, rather than something else
@@kadavre aww poor David. That said now I'm picturing Art the Clown with an inexplicable fear of vomit
Bad guy does bad thing so that doesn't condone thing only goes so far. Because if the framing itself is "ew gross a transperson" and the horror and uncomfortability is meant to come from them being trans... it's still transphobic.
The lady in the first movie with the baby doll is played by a trans actor, with her character being depicted as a completely cis woman.
She chose herself what she wanted the character to be like, and they were glad to let her!
As someone who lives in a transphobic community, if they were transphobic they would have done a lot worse.
I admire the cinematography but terrifier 2 just p*ssed me and my friends off😭 the ratio of time given to female torture and male was so obvious, theres a line to be crossed
lol n ppl will act like they just dont get it, b!tch you're actually blind
girl what r u yappin abt😭 the kills were pretty balanced sex wise. u saying the ratio was off jus shows u weren’t into the movie and just wanted to dissect it to build ur own narrative. weird
Oh yeah. You know that one dick-slashing scene was added for a reason
They make up for that in 3 for sure 😉
(As a dude, the d*ck being torn off, and the scene in Terrifyer 3 REALLY got to me)
Genital mutilation stuff on both ends get me queezy lol.
soft ngl
One thing that i notice is that theres a lot of terrifier fans who ask "why do people only think these movies are only gore?!" When its due to how these movies present themselves, most slasher present themselves with fear as the focus, fear of the slasher, while these movies present themselves as goofy gorefest especially with the "people who watch this film puke lol" and "watch the goofy clown kill the guy for a while" and with the first film just being that exact thing and nothing else it mainly only attracts big horror fans, and the the "I watch gore for fun 🤓" crowd, the ladder of which also repeats the same sentiment
@@deathseekr1537 you haven’t watched many slasher films, have you?
@notgonnapay I said most slashers, exceptions like child's play and nightmare on elm Street exist but they focus on their comedic monster scaring a bunch of teens or kids
@@deathseekr1537 Even Elm Street focuses on the fear, just in a different way. Freddy is all about fear, he just takes things less seriously than silent killers like Jason or Michael
Okay but why can't we have a goofy gorefest? I just wanna see a killer clown go fucking mental for a couple hours, if I want a slow burn psychological thriller I can go find a hundred. We're running out of good old grindhouse splatter films, and Terrifier 1 was perfect. It knew what it was and didn't try to be anything else. Terrifier 2 is about a little girl getting superpowers from her halloween costume and beating a demon with daddys love. If that is too edgy for you I don't understand how you are alive in the world right now. Just because gory movies gross you out doesn't mean everybody else who likes them is a prick going "look how cool I am for watching this" we just don't get pissy when we see it like you do. People hate to realize that they can't handle something, so they blame the thing and the people who like it instead of accepting their own limits.
Another point, how exactly are you supposed to make a horror film about a guy who kills people without being edgy? What people seem to want is a convoluted backstory about why the killer is just a misunderstood sadboy they can draw sexy fanart of but that's not scary. I'm not afraid of mopey traumatized humans I'm afraid of invincible sadists who don't feel pain or empathy. That's great for a character study about a troubled individual but I didn't buy a ticket to Joker I bought a ticket to Clown Kills People The Movie and there's nothing wrong with wanting a couple hours of dumb meaningless fun
@@thatfunkadeus Those articles about people puking and fainting in theaters, though they garnered a ton of publicity for the filmmakers, were awful for the fans' reputation.
People liken Terrifier to films like Saw, Hostel, and even A Serbian Film despite having nothing in common with them besides the explicit gore. If anything, I’d compare it with Italian Giallo, such as Dario Argento’s Suspiria, or The Church.
See, my issue with the movies isn’t the movies themselves as much as it is the way they’re talked about online. A lot of grandstanding about how if you don’t like the movies you don’t “get it” and are either too stupid or too much of a coward to be a horror fan in general.
Realest thing ever, I’ve seen half of 1 and a bit of 3 with my friends. We honesty, found it so boring, and the culture around the movies suck. There’s so many people around me thinking they are “different” and “edgy” because they find it fun and entertaining. I can withstand gore but it ain’t fun watching it
exactly, while i love the franchise i also don't like to watch gore, i often watch right up to when it happens then skip the actual details of the kill. But unfortunately, a certain type of terrifier fans like to dog on people who simply refuse to watch because of that aspect, like somehow they're superior because they enjoy that sort of stuff. I also dislike the way the movies are promoted, i understand shock sells, but if they keep marketing the franchise as "omg 5 people walked out and puked and shit everywhere because of this scene" then they cannot be surprised when they keep attracting cringe edgelords into their fandom.
@@月月月月-p5gdude nobody else feels the same way when I said the first two were boring, but you get it. The biggest problem these movies have is the bloated run time. They should be an hour and a half at max, but instead they’re two and a half hours and by the end you’re just glad it’s over and feel like you got your time wasted.
@@onesaucynougat7471 it was so boring to watch it. Ppl in my math class were watching 3 and out of boredom I joined in. It was over2 hours long, and what’s crazy to me is how anyone is entertained by this shit. It’s crazy. I understand the appeal with shock value or wt r but god damn is it boring.
nobody has ever once said you're stupid . give me a break. it's "not for you" and that's OK but ive never seen anybody gatekeeping terrifier for 'intelligent' ppl. save that for ari aster fans or some other arthouse horror director
terrifier fans will switch from "yeah i watch this sort of thing for fun, sorry if you cant handle it 😎😎" to having screaming matches in response to the slightest criticism and then wonder why people don't like them
THANK YOU. I see it all the time. They love to insist the films aren't overhyped but "overhated". Overhated by who exactly? WHO? I can't find a single person online that says anything remotively negative about these films.
Where do you even meet all "these people"?
The movie came and went to lukewarm reception. Dunno what all this supposed controversy is. It's a B-grade movie that made it into the A-grade theatre slots. End of story.
Ong.
and those fans are here with us?
This is why I don't interact with the fandom, I just liked the movies, but I thought "Wow, the fans are really simping for the killer, I sense a toxic fandom." Ignorance is bliss
It upset me so much hearing how they filmed those "scared audience" promos. They lied to the audience and didn't say at all it would be a horror movie
@@ststst981 WAIT WHAT? Did they not tell the people what they were watching?
This is a blatant lie lmao. Since when do people pay for movies, and then are forced/tricked to watch one they didn’t pay for? Thats a complete joke 😂
@shawnsells7 it was a free screening for tester audiences and they dont reveal the name of the movie till you sit down, they mislead audiences on what the movie would be to get more shocked audience reactions
@@shawnsells7 This is explained in the video, too, so you must have commented before watching it all the way through
@@sofiipote7 but they never lied, like the original commenter stated. OP was making it sound worse than it actually was
Actually kind of mad at the retelling of one of the funnier horror movie jokes in recent time:
Tara doesnt just run away and gets shot a few times.
After several attempts of fighting back against art she finally gets the upper hand, grabs a plank of wood from the ground and starts beating the living piss out of him. Giving the audience a slight shimmer of hope at her becoming the final girl and managing to defeat the killer, she prepares herself to finish the mime with the makeshift weapon. Art on his knees, beaten down and almost shivering pulls a glock from his sock like he is John Wick and shots her. Perfect comedic timing, perfect acting from Thornton
Do you mean upper hand instead of over hand?
you thought that was funny?
I particularly loved that scene bc it had huge "CALL AN AMBULANCE CALL AN AMBULANCE !!! But nOT FOR ME !" vibes
Also completely throwing slasher convention out the window by having the slasher use a gun in the first place
That scene turned the tide on how I was feeling about the movie. I was ready to throw it in the trash bin, but then Art pulling out his trusty gat out of desperation made me laugh so hard. Thornton really is the saving grace of that first movie.
A lot of people were disturbed by the shower scene. I grew up watching a lot of Texas chainsaw so it didn’t really bother me, but the FUCKING BOX CUTTER scene actually made me puke, and it was the first time I ever puked during a horror movie
the rat scene almost made me get sick but it's just because i have bad emetophobia 😭
The bedroom scene of 2 made me a little icked out. Human Centipede was my first real shock movie and that was the first and only real time I almost got sick watching it and that was cause my mom didn't actually tell me what it was about, had my sister and husband and I watch it with her and eat pizza...
Yeah he straight up punished that poor guy with that box cutter.
If something makes you puke then it probably isn't healthy to watch
I was somehow able to watch most of the scenes in 3, but the shower scene couldn’t. Something about chainsaws against people naked and wet is enough for me to feel uncomfortable in places I don’t wanna feel uncomfortable at.
Just me though.
Internet archive being down is scarier than the entire terrifier franchise.
It's back so don't be too scared guys
1. The Terrifier movies aren't trying to be scary, just violent af
2. Is it safe to download anything on IA rn? I know they got hacked recently so i'm scared to even go there lol
I still can't watch movies on there apparently. Sad.
jgv6323 it's safe, they upped their site's security before they put the ia fully online again
@@jgv6323 chances are its fine, the people who hacked the site were trying to protest the Palestine genocide according to journalists, i doubt they bothered to inject anything malicious whilst doing it since that wasn't really the motive
I would be fucked up if IA is down for good since many literature I am able to access are only available within IA's scans
Regarding kid death on film, for me the most important part is to make sure the child actors on screen are safe. It's okay to have practical effects as long as the kids don't have to be involved with it cause I don't think it's good for little children to see gore, and be involved with it, even if it's partical effects since it takes a while before kids can fully understand the difference between reality and fiction!
Sounds like you’ve never been on a film set. I get there’s probably a line not to cross, but no kid is being traumatized on set by a blood squib or something of that nature. It’s extremely obvious even to a child that everything is manufactured.
It sounds to me like the one who doesn't fully understand the difference between reality and fiction is you.
I don’t think this is even remotely true. If you look at the behind the scenes of any horror movies with child actors, they always seem like they’re having a blast.
I’m sure there’s exceptions, but from what I’ve seen, they usually understand that it’s all fake, and are genuinely having fun.
@@EgoTidethere was a very infamous incident involving the Twilight Zone mice, in which 2 child scores were accidentally decapitated in the final scene
@@RangerW36 Take for example, Hereditary, where the actress for Charlie (the girl who got decapitated by a Telephone pole) Milly Shapiro, actually described filming the infamous Telephone pole scene as fun and like a roller coaster and actually wanted to keep her prop decapitated head (which unfortunately she couldn't)
Idk about misogyny in these films but that paragraph sounds like "but I have a black friend I'm not racists" it makes me think he doesn't know what misogyny looks like, and because he doesn't he can't make a proper commentary or subversion of it
The terrifier series is essentially just splatterpunk, but movie edition. Which I have no issue with, sometimes I enjoy it, but people gotta remember, not everyone is gonna like certain genres and vice versa. All I say is, if you don’t like something? Read the tags/warnings, and avoid it.
Thats how it used to be in the past that the people that liked something enjoyed it and the people that dont like it just avoided it but nowadays in the west if some people really dont like something then the people that like it are usually not allowed to enjoy it anymore.
@@CyberLance26 right, that's why famously art was never criticised or censored before the internet
@@sofiipote7 The difference is that most of the time in the past even if people complained about something the companys did it anyway but nowadays if people complain about stuff then the companys usually dont want to do it anymore.
TV shows, movies, cartoons, video games and comics used to make fun of the people that complained about these kind of things all the time but now they are scared of those people instead.
The companys also used to care about profit and earning money the most but these days being politically correct is usually even more important to them even if they would earn way more money if they did not care about that stuff.
And it was in the 2010s it became the way things are like right now so we had the internet long before it became the way things are like nowadays.
vice versa more like vice viscera
Doesthedogdie is great for checking triggers in a film
The reason the demon makes Vicky cut her wrists is so she passed away completely and the demon takes full control. Just before that Art seems very annoyed with the real Vicky cuddling with the rats and using his horn, we don't see the annoyance anywhere in the film after that point
True
28:22 It was honestly crazy to see Art kill such a major character, especially a child, Cody NutKiss will always be my favorite character. RIP
Wait why are we talking about SML again??????
@LoominousShroominous fake fan 😔
@@sniplord3051 what
Edit: to preface, no, you are not a bad person if you like Terrifier 1. Me explaining why someone wouldn’t like it does NOT mean you’re bad for liking it. If you just want to see special effects and gore, have fun. Disagreeing with me doesn’t mean that you’re in the wrong, opinions are subjective etc etc etc. ANYWAYS.
It’s less that it’s “problematic” and more that the first Terrifier feels like being edgy for edgelord’s sake. At least personally, the first movie falls into the pitfall of a lot of slashers falls into: there’s not much substance beyond “what if the character got killed dead and it was really bloody and cringe inducing”. 2 and 3 are a step in the right direction, but I don’t blame someone who doesn’t want to give them a chance because 1 was too much for them
This is how I felt about it at first until I really considered the meaning of why the choices were even made about what would be edgy. Then I realized how problematic I personally found it. I think stuff being try hard edgy is really usually a way of expressing problematic views without taking responsibility or realizing it about yourself
But that's just where I've ended up on this
Everything is “edgy” nowadays. But, I’m pretty sure why people liked Terrifer was because for one, Art isn’t a misunderstood villain character. He’s evil to be evil. No sob story. Two, the blood and gore. Even more with the other movies. Not everything needs to be “substance” to be entertaining. Some people like to shut off their brains, and enjoy what’s in the screen. It’s literally splatterpunk.
@@bimates2690 This comment is super funny since we just got a horror film called The Substance just released this year.
@bimates2690 saying people don't wanna think and just wanna shut off their brain to watch women get tortured and have a good time isn't really the argument you think it is
@@michaelelmes2135A guy literally gets his dick ripped off in 2 Art doesn’t discriminate.
This is gonna be a weird comparison, but the marketing of Terrifier 3 reminds me a lot of the "Your mom hates Dead Space 2" ad from when that game was coming out.
Real, it mainly reminds me of the old GTA strategy where they say the game is so brutal and edgy so the "I watch gore for fun 🤓" crowd could swarm it
@@deathseekr1537 There was an old interview in a PlayStation Magazine where they talked to some of the people behind the original GTA, and the interviewer asked "Why should people play your game?" And I kid you not, one of them responded with "Peer pressure and Satan." Whether they were being serious or not, it's still incredibly funny.
I remember when Saw first came out I heard a lot of rumours about people leaving the cinema. I guess it's a strategy that has been employed many times
Marketing is there to sell a product. Terrifier ad campaigns, and the Dead Space 2, you would not see this kind of marketing repeat itself so much if it didn't work.
More like "see Paris Hilton die" with House of Wax
Ultimately, Art the Clown will be remembered similarly to Michael Meyers, Jason, Freddy, and Chucky. Great and iconic villains who were most bad movies. Out of the 5 names listed, there is maybe 3 great movies and 2 good movies out of the like 30 or so movies they have combined.
Simply put, shocking and gorey slashers with recognizable villains will always do well in theaters around Halloween. They will always be successful even if it means diminishing returns at some point. Terrifier simply joins the ranks of medicore horror franchises that survive off of seasonal trends and good marketing
I’m curious what the good and great movies are between these five in your opinion
I think Terrifier 2 and 3 are already a cut above those other franchises average quality, and assuming Leone actually does stop at 4 or 5, it’ll be more akin to like Evil Dead which is known for having an incredibly high batting average for a horror franchise
@@Dr_Mortis_SCPid bet:
Halloween 1
F13 4 and 6
Child’s Play 2
Nightmares 1 and 3
@ I can accept this list
I'm hoping Terrifier 4 is like Evil Dead, I want to see Sienna just rip and tear.
@@thesologoldfish
It would be high time for that
Me too. The chainsaw/sword fight got me hyped up for cool action in the next one. Maybe she’ll recover the armor too and go army of darkness
The poster for terrifier 4 set in space so I’m actually curious how that one turns out
@@月月月月-p5gThat is not confirmed yet bro
doomguy shows up and kisses art on the cheekbone and art dies
sienna shaw they could never make me hate you
I love my girl Sienna Shaw she's a queen and a final girl for the ages!!
I just found it weird that a majority of his kills are women, cause they’re so explicit and brutal . Like all of the main characters are female it’s weird that a film with such gruesome and graphic kills are almost all done done to women. It’s definitely questionable
Serial killers in real life also mostly went for women or children. They cant fight back as much as a grown man
@ That is true but this is fiction and it’s clearly not meant to mimic reality. Most serial killers didn’t scalp their victims after pretending to go trick or treating at their house.
@@khaki9337 so? Doesnt make women any harder to kill even if its fictional. If art the clown suddenly started flying and shooting lasers out of his eyes people would complain about it. Even tho its fictional
@@purplebruh947 why does it have to be women though? why? what purpose does that serve? you'd have to be this ignorant on purpose to pretend that there aren't horror movies that exist just to exploit women and their suffering whle also sexualizing them, and to then pretend that's not gross. i think damien leone listened to the criticsm, because in the third movie it's more balanced for sure. but the first movie is the text book defintion of torture porn, and to be fair i think you could call the 2nd and 3rd movie that too if you wanted to. i enjoy terrifier because i love art and sienna, and the writing has gotten better. but then again i'm biased, obviously. i want to make excuses, but it's weird. it's weird. we need to stop only fucking torturing women in horror movies and then getting mad when people point it out. you need to think more critically if you refuse to notice the blantant misogyny in horror movies and the genre as a whole.
@@mika-si7fu yeah, nature is misogynistic for making women way easier to kill for grown men. Such a shame
This is a great dissection! You explained exactly why I find the films appealing. I’m a woman, and I like the slasher genre (even the really bad ones). Terrifier stands out to me Because of Sienna honestly. This sounds like the bar is too low but like…her having a distinct hobby sets her apart from a lot of final girls. And I love the final girl as a trope! But her interest in cosplay in makeup playing a big part of her character is just great. She also doesn’t feel like she just suddenly jumps into the savior role after having no signs of being one for the rest of the movie. She’s already hyper vigilant and willing to stand up to Art before she even knows what he can do. Also the sheer amount of improvement in each movie makes it clear the Damien is listening to what people’s problems are. Most of 3’s death scenes involve men. Also you crushing on Vicky is relatable.
This is an interesting take! I’m also a woman, and I found the first movie to be disproportionately violent towards women, and when the movie starts to feel sexist it’s not fun anymore. But you saying that the director has tried to remedy that makes me wonder if I should try 2 and 3? Idk though, I really only like gore if it serves a good story, not just gore for the sake of gore. But thanks for sharing your thoughts, I feel like most terrifier fans are men so it’s good to hear your take on it
@ there’s actually way more women than you’d think! But I get why people assume it’s mostly men haha. I do recommend 2 and 3, though 2 has a scene that’s pretty violent against a woman I’ll warn you of that. But it feels less Like That because of characters like Sienna and her mom. 3 is a lot better. But also, if you don’t like crazy gore 2 and 3 may still not be your thing. Part of the appeal to me is the over the top unrealistic gore.
@@carolinewheeler77 thanks for the heads up, I appreciate it! Happy belated Halloween :)
You like the 3rd movie because men die more? What the fuck is wrong with you
@@alyssestephens7726 i hated the first movie but i absolutely loved the sequels (especially 3) and it was mainly for sienna but also the fact the director had clearly listened to criticism. 2 does have a death scene that was tbh too far for me but i watched 3 first out of context and i think it's really the best representation of this franchise so far with an actual plot and characters, not exactly LESS gore but not every death is drawn out and some are even offscreen
"what are you drawing? I DEMAND TO KNOW" Geez if ya wanna know so badly, it;s Hades 2 Dionysus in Chel's clothing from El Dorado
Incredibly based
@@r0tt3nap0ll0 would you like to share with the class 👀
If you post your art is your username the same as on here? Bc when that shit drops I want to be among the first to see it o7
you better not whitewash him 👁👁
@malum9478 why would I whitewash perfection? He's free rep as a dark skinned person myself
4:38 That artist call out took me by surprise haha
Yes, Im drawing commissions, please continue with the video
i got jumpscared when you asked what the artists are drawing-
i was drawing kevin from spooky month btw lol
ITS DA SPOOKY MONTH !
@@fernoagent8581 IT THA SPOOKY BEFOR CHRISTMAS~!!!
FELLOW SPOOKY MONTH FAN SPOTTED 🗣🗣🗣🗣
oh hell yeah
Art the Clown rule 34 from what I’ve seen
The character itself is cool. His design, personnality, over the top kills and humour are pretty good. The practical effects are great. Even if I'm not a fan of it, his "lore" is appreciable.
The movies themselves suck though. The acting is terrible, the pacing is bad, the stories are convoluted and go nowhere. There's things to like in there but as a whole, it's not good. I'm very happy that it is succesfull though. The people working on it are passionate and it shows. It's fun if you like the character, over the top gore and great effects.
“The pacing is bad” is an understatement. Watching Terrifier 2 felt like being stuck in school again in the most boring class. You think an hour has passed but in reality it was only 10 minutes.
i mean ur opinion is ur opinion but i really do think the story has grown sm being a fan since the first one. idk i get u i do but i feel like its jus getting better and stronger thanks to the best final girl sienna
I really like the second one, and the acting inthe 3rd is crazy good imo
@@andersbell2046 It is better indeed.
I've only watched the first one. Do the special effects, gore and the such, get better with the others? To me they looked just like something out of Monty Python in quality
1:17:52 I’ll just add here. No, the targets of violence being young women doesn’t make it misogynistic. But part of the reason I have a hard time watching the Terrifier films is because Art often chooses his targets through classic means of gendered violence, and there’s a lot of enacted gendered violence. Like stalking a girl on a bus, r-pe (including with the chainsaw), harassing women in stores, etc., and I don’t think the statement “it’s a trope that makes you more empathetic” is a critical engagement with that trope at all. Especially since it also doesn’t address the fact that when this level of violence happens to men, it includes anal r-pe, which is also a gendered violence that highlights the connection between femme- and LGBT+-targeted violence. To do this work in general, I’d like to see more critical and artistic engagement with that trope to consider why this kind of violence is what we want for ‘empathetic’ and sensational storytelling.
More like Shart the frown
@@SoldierRat7274 real
he's coming for you because of this
this made me laugh so much, I need to be put down
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I can't believe we got quinnamon doing a manscaped ad before GET OUT GET OUT OF MY HEAD
4:37 alright if you really want to know, I was helping my sibling out with his School project which was to make a mini shoe box ofrenda for Dia de Los Muertos (Day of the Day). I decided to put this video on as background while I cut some papel picado (cut paper) and painted the clay candles, pan de Muerto (Bread of the Dead) and torta my brother made. After my legs went numb from sitting, I had finished and went into watching more of your video essays (I find you to be pretty relaxing to listen to while making art as a Studio Art major) It turned out pretty cute despite us finishing so late. Worth it and he ended up getting a very good grade on it.
I’m sorry but these movies just sound like baby’s first religious symbolism, especially the last one with the ham-fisted references like the crown of thorns and the warrior angel
Eh. It was Christmas themed so they probably just threw on the costumes like the same as the Santa one. The warrior angel had something to do with the dad as an artist
Slasher movies were never intelligent in particular.
Sorry the movie doesn't cater to your dumbshit taste Lindsay. Some of us actually know and enjoy slasher films.
? The second one did it in such an artistic way lol
As someone who wouldn't be able to stomach the actual movies, thanks for this analysis
You're going in my "trusted UA-camr" list
Issue with Terrifier it's that it's just not that good as people hype it out to be and mostly what stands out is the long and violent scenes of Art murdering people which is pretty boring. These movies are not scary, only shocking and that only for some. Yet they are promoted by it's fans as some big thing, when it really isnt
@@ratking7383 I genuinely thought the appeal WAS because the first movie had a very low budget, like it's good because it's bad right? I had no idea people genuinely thought it was well made and amazing lol
It’s subjective.
Subjective. I love the movies because of Art. He's hilarious and the stuff he does is funny; outside of the kills, that is.
I love how differently religious themes in media get handled by different people. It can tell you a lot about them. You got the "tell me you were raised Catholic without telling you were raised Catholic" (My Chemical Romance), religious folks that are chill, creative, and a little fucked up (Doom and Faith: The Unholy Trinity), and satire (the band Ghost). Terrifier either falls in the first or third camp.
MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE MENTIOEND OHMYGOD 😖😖😖😖🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵😝😝😝😝
It's very obviously the first.
I LOVE DOOM!!!
i dont know shit about my chemical romance, what makes it fall under the first?
@theforgivingwarrior A lot of the imagery through the different eras is inspired by Catholic motifs, and the lyrics discuss themes of death, the afterlife, and redemption (or the lack thereof). Definitely not for everyone, but look up the "Helena" music video. It's a showcase of most of these ideas.
In my opinion, the misogyny in horror are those rules/tropes of the promiscuous woman who is killed because she had sex, compared to the final girl who survived for being a 'pure virgin'.
This was something they actually tried to push in the 70 and 80s. If you have sex that means you'll die. (Men and women). Even the scream movie referenced this. When the killer said the main character wasn't safe anymore once she lost her virginity.
Other people think the inclusion of assault and abuse is also part of misogyny. I disagree. Those things happen, and they are horrifying. Look at actual serial killers and a good share of them assault their victims before or after death. The only time i think something is misogynist is when the creators are telling women they will suffer a certain outcome if they act the wrong way. (Like having sex or dressing unmodest.)
Obviously, there's more to speak on and look into on this topic. But I'm not trying to make a college essay over here. As a woman, i love horror, and i love art, the clown.
I think the issue people have is less with the abuse and assault in general and more so with how it’s portrayed. like a lot of older horror movies have scenes involving those things that are very objectifying and seem almost like they’re meant to be more titillating than terrifying. there are many examples of these things being portrayed in tasteful ways though and I don’t think people should forget about that. I’m very against the idea that real world problems shouldn’t be shown in fiction. I actually think it’s really important to shed a light on abuse through art. to me it just depends on the context and portrayal of it all. your perspective is interesting tho! it’s good to see conversations around horror become more dominated by women who can judge this stuff based on your own experiences
Did you see cabin in the woods? It also smartly references these tropes.
I just somehow don't think sexual assault and rape is presented well in slashers. It's more "isn't that wacky?" "Oh isn't that gross?" "LOL look at her"
The trope came out of the 70s/80s when women were becoming more open and free. It's basically the world vs. said women. If you look into the history of horror, you will see a LOT of genres were born from events/changes in society. Horror literally tells the timeline of how people are changing over time.
@@NoOneReallySpecialthat doesnt make it okay. That makes it worse actually because its in protest of progress.
This clown supposed to be scarry unlike normal clowns, who should be funny, but it's the opposite. Terrifier looks so hilarious to me I genuinely lough at the movie clips. Especially his face expressions are making me smile. He just seems so friendly. Meanwhile normal clowns look like nightmare fuel sometimes. I know this movie is gore and mourder and all, but the terrifier himself is cute plushie material.
I meeeaaaan everyone said the same thing about the Evil Dead franchise and those have gone on to be cult classics so it’s no surprise to me that the same thing is happening with Terrifier.
the difference in violence and intent between evil dead and terrifier are monu-fucking-mental.
oh yeah more peak
I was not expecting to see an analog horror creator commenting on a quinnamon video
*insert obligatory “ermmm didn’t expect to see YOU here 😜😜😜” reply*
holy fuck its the suitmation trials guy
is that the man in the suit???!?!?!?
@@tom_stuff2806 wrong person bud
I get that not everyone likes splatter genre movies, but like. It’s really wild to hear that the gore is pointless, and “gore for gore’s sake” as if that’s innately bad.
Splatter is genuinely one of the most interesting types of movies in my opinion-you’re focused on a level of artistry that’s often ignored. Doing SFX and practical effects that splatter films are known for is incredibly difficult and undeniably one of the most difficult art forms out there. It’s difficult enough drawing/painting/sculpting humans. Now try doing so in a way that inserts over the person so you can explode their head.
I get not liking gore, but like. Why can’t people who appreciate the art in that just enjoy it???
My problem isn’t gore for the sake of gore, it’s how smug the franchise feels about it. This could just be me, but it felt like every time Art did something messed up, it was almost like someone was pointing at the screen and just going “wasn’t that so messed up?” repeatedly, if that makes sense. I feel like the best example of this isn’t in the movies ironically, but in the advertising. A big part of advertising for the third movie was about people throwing up while watching the movie in theatres, once again like having someone point at the screen and just go “wasn’t that so messed up?” If a movie wants to be gore for the sake of gore, that’s fine. The Saw franchise is absolutely guilty of that, and those movies are still good. The main differences are that Saw actually has an interesting story, and that while it still takes pride in its kills, it doesn’t feel nearly as smug about it
"people who don't like gore, why??? the gore is well made! like the gore!!!"
If you shove 30 oranges in your mouth, sure its a lot of effort, but it won't get you a place in the olympic gymnastics team. Rather maybe a one-off at the circus.
@@gamingmaster6377 theyre saying you can acknowledge something requires a lot of talent and work to accomplish even if you dont like it. i dont like junji ito's work but i recognize he has talent and puts a lot of effort into it. its not that hard
My doctor says I need Art's over the top brutality to balance out my boy Freddy Fazbear's over the top tameness in my daily horror content consumption
so real lmao
Freddy Fazbear isn't that tame when you remember Garten of Banban
I'm sorry, Mike's kids are named Edd and Molly? Hm... Wonder what Mike's last name is and if he found his files yet
Golly gee i wonder what this could be referencing 🤔
I just hope Mikes friend is getting over his breakup well :(
i have that plushie thats in your pfp
@@ilovemen42 Oh, cool. I also love men
@@MossOnTheWall08 good to know!
0:20 it really does feel like 2016 again, doesn’t it? 😔
Save for me falling and breaking out my nose, teeth, and breaking my arm then having to take Jimmy John's to court to sue to them to fix me whilst going bankrupt and everything in my apartment was breaking down. Now it's no injuries (but I am still affected by my old injuries of 2016 including horrible migraines and skull thickening from my nose causing mental issues), broken back teeth, I'm permanently disabled, husband is on strike/waiting to return to work, and things in my house are breaking down. >.
@ wow that fucking SUCKS
I have a hard time taking the director seriously when he claims that r*pe is "too far" and "Art would never do that" when the chainsaw murder is an homage to older slasher post/during coitus death scenes that emphasize the penetration of the victim. He tries to have it both ways by pretending he's a scholar of slasher and splatter films and then acting like his scenes aren't doing what they are clearly doing, in the context of films in these genres.
It's also absurd for him to claim he doesn't show children being brutally murdered when the teens in 2 are literally children. Once again, he tried to have it both ways, and him claiming that it would be too disturbing, given how the entire point of the gore in these films is to be disturbing... Maybe he thinks his arguments make sense, but to me they ring as hollow as his asserting that his weirdly 50s tinged views on men and women's roles is the reason why he films things the way he does. Sounds exactly like someone who holds misogynistic views being called out and appealing to an imagined archetype as their defense of said views.
Sure the plot is literally there, however Warhammer 40k has a plot (or more precisely a narrative) but the only reason it does is to sell toys... Which... Given the amount of things you can buy associated with this franchise.... Yeah, the mere presence of a cohesive narrative doesn't mean it's not simply there to prop up death scenes.
That being said: if someone wants to make splatter films... That's what they should do, I used to watch them a lot myself, but for me, it came to a point where there's really no tension in most films like this, and tension is the real powerhouse of horror, the terrifier franchise feels like I'm watching a Cannibal Corpse album, as a film, and the thing about that is, Cannibal Corpse is only scary for people who don't want to listen to them. Since I'm cool with it, it's just a repetition of the signifiers of fear, without any actual fear occuring. The end sequence of the original "Wicker Man" is easily like ten times more distressing on an emotional level than the madcap splatter of terrifier, even though I can appreciate the F/X masterpieces that they are, it just feels like a fun house ride. And perhaps that's intentional and has deeper meaning (in a more meta sense) than I'm giving credit but, I just don't care ultimately. The films just don't compel me into caring that much. The phenomena of people watching it, and their fascination with it, is much more interesting to me. And so I enjoyed this video quite a lot.
yeah he has a weird dichotomy that i can't get over/ignore like a lot of people.
Yeah that part didnt make much sense. He says that r*pe "distrubs him", but like does that mean that he doesnt find all the other things in the movie disturbing? Idk really how to explain but it just feels really forced and scummy
Older slashers don't depict rape either, I take Terrifier as a continuation of like Nightmare on Elm St and Hellraiser and Friday the 13th, it would be as out of place as if Jason started raping someone, that's not the character
based commenty, the chainsaw scene really rubbed me the wrong way, even if the director is clueless the scene just implies rape so fucking hard
It's strange to say he isn't sexual, while he repeatidly target sexual part (dicks and breasts) as well as the chainsaw scene that just... Well there isn't a way to say it isn't sexual in anyway.
But saying "r*ape is too far" while having theses scenes feel like a straight lie or just a way to shield form critics.
Personally i dont care for terrifet at all. I rented the second movie cause i heard it was well terrifying and went in blind. I finished the movie cause i paid for it, but i personally was bored. I dont care for gore, it can be used well, but only gore just doesn't scare me, nor am i someone whos easily grossed out by that stuff. I kind of liked the artistic vibe it had at first, but it very quickly turned into just 2 and a half hours of this adult man killing mostly teenage girls in brutal ways. That w the fact that it was already easier on the guys only to then find out they cut a scene w a male victim bc they were worried id make the audience uncomfortable was not it. I mean this is terrifier, your going to show me all that not holding back at all on the teen girls, but cut one of the few male kills? Theres clearly a reason why one was seen as to far and the other not even if unintentional. It all just gave me the ick so i personally will not go see the new one.
They didnt cut out any male kill lol. The dude still got killed and his 🍆 got torn off. They just had an idea to make the kill more over the top (making a balloon animal out of it and then feeding it to the guy), but then they decided its distasteful.
@chaotix7275 as I said In my original comment they cut a scene, the scene w the added torture. Which was apparently distasteful, but the bedroom scene of killings children in 3 wasn't? Really..?
@@diepvrieskoe1335 I was correcting your misinformation where you said they cut out entire male kill scene, nothing much else really. Im not Damien Leone and i dont know whats going on inside his head and why he finds this particular idea as a bigger no no than the kills in TF1-TF3.
@chaotix7275 pls re read my comment. You cannot correct me or a claim I never made. I said they cut out A scene w a male victim. Not that they cut the whole kill. They cut the scene were they used 'it' as a balloon making it a very very tame kill and it being one of the few male kills
@@diepvrieskoe1335 You said "they cut one of the very few male scenes" which made it (to me) sound like it. But if not then thats fair.
Honestly I hate how a lot of people's only real criticism for Terrifier and fimiliar films is " theyre gorey and gross! That's exploitative! " which is an argument which has never really made sense to me. I wish people were more willing to hve nuanced takes on the matter instead of just gorey = bad
i havent watched terrifier because i hate gore but im glad it exists, i kinda missed the more campy and stupid horror movies that are just a gorefest
I thought the dad's drawings were explained in Terrifier 2 and 3 subtextually. The dad is a prophet, being given visions of the future. He sees Sienna fighting Art in her Halloween costume and bases his drawing on her (in the flashback/nightmare scene from Terrifier 3 it seems like he is gripped by another vision as he passes Sienna the drawing). I would assume that his mental illness mostly stems from being forced to see the suffering and fear to which his daughter would be subjected. I don't pretend to know the extent of his visions but he may also have been tormented by visions of his wife and son being brutally murdered
I absolutely HATEEEEE the terrifier series the only thing I somewhat like is Art's design but otherwise it's just too gorey and annoyingly disgusting for me. This video was a good way to learn about the series without ever getting into it 👍🏾
1:37 i do not see it as transphobic AT ALL, but theres a scene where art wears a girls hair and boobs and parades around so maybe thats what theyre referring to 😭
SAME im a transboy (so is quinnamon) and i understand how it can be viewed as that but i don’t think that was the intent
To me... The way Texas chainsaw massacre and Sleepaway Camp objectify crossdressing and forced feminization feels way more transphobic to me
Or he is just insane and you freaks of nature gotta stop trying to say everything is trans
@@numb3r_1sayakafan Also even if it was transhphobic... It's done by the most evil man on earth for f sake! Would only make sense.
I see it as a nod towards serial killers like Ed Gein, only more exaggerated in presentation because he's a literal evil clown whose sole purpose is to be edgy shock value.
If characters in a movie said, "We're going to see Terrifier, it's about an evil clown from Hell who mutilates people" it would be recognized as a funny comment on low-effort, no-stakes horror, but somehow as a real movie it's an inescapable touchstone.
As a Catholic, I really appreciate the religious themes. Sienna is very much a Christ figure and Terrifier 3 is very much the passion she undergoes. Demons will always try to mock and belittle God, but as Terrifier 3 shows, the Holy and good will always prevail.
I personally really like how Art acts, I like how he’s silly in personality but also awfully insane.
The Terrifier franchise has its potential, SOMETIMES, but it does often just go through the wall and add the most unnecessary shots and ideas. 💀
The Nux jumpscare was the most scary part of the video
real asf
@@VirtualFox true dat
Gave me traumatic flashbacks from when I used to watch him
Same goes for that super mario Logan cameo
i absolutely loved the terrifier films. is the first film terrible? yes its so bad. but it is unbearably funny. the terrifier movies are so masterful at combining gore with slapstick and other physical comedy. art helps this along by always pointing and laughing at the funny things he does. thanks art! you're right, that was really funny!
1:17:11 I fully agree with this! Saw is one of my all time favorite franchises with its creative kills and its convoluted story (ESPECIALLY when Mark Hoffman is introduced). Always preferred the story more than the kills tho.
HOFFMAN IS THE BEST.
so deliciously idiotic. I genuinely fangirled over the saw X after credits scene hahaha
I hope you had a nice harfest opposite looking mae.
Hi opposite looking mae
@Artycat55 oh that's my evil clone..
I actually watched the first movie with my new bf who didn't know how squeamish i was (I love horror, but I'm more of a psychological girlie) and I THOUGHT because it was so popular that it couldn't be that bad! It'll be like scream I thought!
I was mistaken :')
Ended up crying and having a panic attack on the upside down scene. I'm glad you acknowledged the striking difference between the marketing/advertising and the actual content bc it is SUPER misleading imo
And your feelings are completely valid! I personally love these films (still gotta see 3, and AHE is honestly pretty meh for me for most the runtime since Art's barely there) but I totally understand why others can't stomach them or even hate them outright.
Womp womp 😭😂 having a panic attack over terrifier one?
@@Skibiditoiletwatcher53283it’s called a phobia you jackass. We’re not supposed to like seeing what’s inside of us, we strive to stay alive
@@Skibiditoiletwatcher53283 your name is skibiditoiletwatcher pls shut up
@@Skibiditoiletwatcher53283 You will start coughing in 7 days
Subscribing because I feel so seen as a digital artist watching this video in the background while I draw 🤣
I'm working on a comic, and drawing full comic pages is so tedious and effortful - but having someone talking in a video in the background makes it much less exhausting. Thank you for making videos! ❤
28:20
I had to stop disassembling my halloween setup to look at the screen when I heard this LMFAO
I use to love Terrifier, but this crossed the line for me 😤😤😤
@@RedLaundryBasket he doesn't need to be canceled he needs to be locked up 😭 ‼️‼️‼️‼️
To me, Terrifier is what Aron Beauregard’s books should be: scary, funny, disturbing in the right ways, and most importantly, have actual good characters that we care about and writing. It’s not just “disturbing just for the sake of disturbing” it’s an actual fun experience to sit through and not want to rather watch paint dry for better entertainment.
I'll admit, I was one of those people who thought these movies were just gore and nothing else before watching but I do feel like that's a fault of the marketing. It's very "Your mom hates Dead Space" type thing, completely juvenile and obnoxious, which I thought reflected the film. My impression of the creator also wasn't great. I assumed that he was one of the "relax snowflakes, it's called dark humor" types.
This video really changed my mind, while I definitely think there's a juvenile aspect, the movies seem like they have more layers than I gave them credit for. I probably would have hated the first movie, but 2 and 3 definitely have more for me to bite onto. I also actually found myself liking Art, brutal slasher killers who treat what they're doing like a prank or a joke are something I like in a film like this. If you're going to do a goofy slasher, then a goofy villain fits the bill, I also liked the performance of Art's actor quite a lot.
My impression of the creator definitely has improved, while his defensiveness over the misogyny isn't great (I think he definitely shows a very not stellar point of view in his statement) I do actually appreciate his refusal to involve rape in his movies, and also his surprising amount of tact he shows in the themes, and how he thinks about balancing that desire to shock the audience without relying on something more cheap like a child's on camera death. Overall walked away from this one with a much more positive view of the films than I did initially. Great video.
yeah this reflects my thoughts, the first movie is definitely a little questionable but I like that Damien Leone is clearly listening to criticism
28:00 Animatronics are still considered practical effects to a degree, it essentially refers to anything non- cgi :)
I think she meant the digital eye, though
The moves are incredibly mediocre. I really do not understand why they’re so popular.
I think a lot of people watch it for the art and... art (pun intended) he's just a very fun and funny character and the way it's all over the top is very campy imo. the practical effects are phenomenal and I've seen nothing like it
It’s a funny clown going around doing mortal kombat fatalities on people.
What moves are you referring to?
I like the 2nd and 3rd for the complex character relationships, the acting, and way better writing.
I'm sorry you don't like them though.
I can’t speak for everyone but I enjoy murderous characters that can be silly and from the little content I’ve seen from the fandom Art’s silliness is a big appeal of the series. Also overdramatized things have always been something I personally enjoy and over dramatic is definitely one of the words I would use to describe the murder scenes. Sadly I didn’t really care about anything else when I watched the second movie tho(I can’t say much about the third cause I haven’t seen it yet)
I'm glad to see someone talking about this! I'm known by friends and family to be the one that's into gore, horror, etc. but I've always hated Terrifier. I've only seen the first one and haven't bothered with the other two, so read this with that in mind.
I see people compare Terrifier to Saw in the fact that it's a lot of intentionally over-the-top gore, but even there Saw is better because there's some sort of context to the gore that makes it more than just gore; the traps people are put in are related to the victim and/or are just conceptually interesting. I stand in the camp of thinking Terrifier, meanwhile, is just torture porn.
It's girls in slutty Halloween costumes gasping and stumbling down spooky hallways, gawking and stammering when faced with this dude that's just being a creepy freak, getting stabbed in the ankle so there's a three minute long scene of them screaming and moaning and kicking that destroys any tension of a victim trying to actually avoid someone who really wants to kill them, and then being murdered in vulgar ways purely for shock value. Is there any background we're given at any point, some insight into why our characters may be in this position (either the motives of Art or some "reason" the main characters may be experiencing this as "karma?") Nope! It's just girls getting tortured and killed.
I get that that's the point, I guess, but again, that's also the point of torture porn; drawing out some unrealistic, wrong fantasy with no rhyme or reason other than "just because." Maybe I looked too far into it as a woman who has been victimized by weird men and am paranoid because of that experience, but it just felt like something for dudes who actually want to do that kind of shit to insert themselves in Art's place.
The faceless interview lady at the beginning and end just feels like a cheap creepypasta type thing tacked on to make the movie seem like more than it really is. The entire movie just ended up being so uninteresting and uncomfortable, like watching a porn that you're not into and all you can focus on if how hammed-up the actors are being.
i feel like there is definitely more of a story in 2 and 3, and 1 feels like dogshit in comparison to those two. i feel like with 4, we will get answers as to who art is and why he does what he does, and i think with that a trilogy of 2, 3, and 4 could actually be good quality horror with a story as well as over the top gore. i've also heard that the first was pretty much just made so leone could have enough money to make terrifier 2, which he had been dreaming of making since 2008, but i dont know for sure. there's also always the chance that 4 is the same as all the others, with just no backstory to art and it's just more violence. i feel like that would definitely take away a LOT from the franchise, as a part of the big reason why i like the movies is the mystery behind art, and trying to piece it together, and waiting for a somewhat clearer answer. i also feel like there are *some* mildly creative kills in the terrifier franchise, but most of the creativity comes from how over the top they are, they're not basic, but also not particularly creative.
I don't think anybody watches Terrifier rooting for Art the Clown to kill those people, definitely not the same way you do with Jason or Freddy. One thing I like about terrifier is that the characters are usually likable people that you're scared for whenever they encounter Art
hey you should be more careful with flashing lights in your videos
around 1:13:38 theres no warning its gonna happen.
hope this doesnt come off as rude, i just have seizures so i end up being more hyper vigilant with these things. love the video and you inspired me to give terrifier a chance
I dislike every one of these movies. I think the practical effects are amazing and are the only reasons I have watched the films, but gore for the sake of gore was never for me. Also, I am a tad bit sick of seeing women take the brunt of violence in these movies because it is such an overdone trope (for lack of a better word). "OMG, the woman is gonna die." I also think the actor that plays the clown is amazing, and I totally get why people like these films. The pr is amazing, too. The first one is definely the worst one. Edgy for the sake of edgy. Again, I am 100% not this films audience, so I try not to bash it too much, but oh god, is the 1st movie awful. I also think a big reason people don't like these films is because they're not trying to say anything. There is no moral or meaning, so some people read too much into it and try to assign it one. "So many women died = movie doesn’t like women." People want a leason in their movies, so they will often assign it one even if it's nonsense.
I read all hollows eve and the first one as hating women, because in all hollows eve he literally strips a woman and puts derogatory words for women all over her body and then in the first terrifier he just generally does oddly sexual torture methods to the women while the men get normal gory ends.
Perhaps the director didn't mean to, but the films definitely treat it's women in a particularly objectifying way.
(2 and 3 are more equal opportunity, so I think they got a little better in that area.)
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@totallynotdown3982 LMAO IM IMAGINE UR BUM SELF WRITING THIS ITS SO FUNNY 🤣🤣 trash movies trash fans
@@zinabepp Sissy response.
@totallynotdown3982 cry more?
4:40 not drawing, but crocheting art sunflower sunglasses
Splatter is my favorite genre of horror because everyone acts like it was made in the 2010's/2000's but it actually originates as a 1980's book genre called "splatterpunk". The idea of "horror without limits" is just so interesting to me mainly because of morbid curiosity and just how awful of a scenario someone can imagine and write/script. There are so many movies im surprised arent classed as splatter like pink flamingos and literally any movie the shameless company makes dvds of.
I haven’t watched any of the Terrifier movies cause I heard about the woman being sawed in half down the middle & that was enough for me to be like N O P E. I don’t do genital mutilation, especially not involving bodies of the same sex as myself. That on top of hearing how mean spirited the franchise is just more nope. Not for me.
It's really not that bad at all. The sequels had way worse scenes than it. It's probably the most tasteful anyone could ever do a scene like that.
Absolutely agree. It makes me very uncomfortable and it’s so weird the amount of people that come out of the woodworks trying to invalidate that opinion by saying you’re “sensitive” or something like that for thinking that way.
@@aacm9062 could not have said it better than both of y’all, absolutely agree
Understandable. The only legit valid reason to watch these films is to desensitize yourself to violence, but even that is questionable
@@alatusedits Except some of us understand it's fake?? I've seen horrible real life gore, having to help people with real medical stuff (and since I and my family are disabled, it's bound to happen) so I am used to seeing it but it doesn't mean that I am watching these only to desensitize myself. I've been raised on horror since I was 3. I love horror. I know it's all not real save for the stuff based on true stories, which I then go to learn about so I can honor the victims and such. I love horror because it can deal with a lot of the themes I deal with in my disabilities/life. It also has good storytelling or characters. In this, Art is very funny outside of his kills. It doesn't mean there's something wrong with me for enjoying the movies or anything like that.
I don’t care if it makes me a bad person I love Terrifier and art the clown, low key a huge fan of it
Terrifier isn’t a “legal snuff film” because Terrifier is a PAID PRODUCTION. It’s a THEATRICAL FILM. People were PAID to make it on a SET with well-known ACTORS. People are getting mad at a GORE movie for having GORE.
Exactly, also isn't snuff literally cp???
(Correct me if im wrong, too scared to look it up lmfao)
@@HxtBot Snuff films are ilegal films because it’s literally a murder caught on tape. Cartel execution videos are usually snuff films. Don’t worry, I’m also sensitive to gore stuff so I never watched or even searched it up lmfao. I’m just repeating what I’ve heard on the internet and Wendigoon videos.
@@HxtBotIt’s not necessarily Club Penguin but ofc there are a bunch of club penguin snuff, but it’s still ilegal for the obvious reasons 💀💀
@@Yourstruly_band and people are saying that the gore is on par with snuff films, what's not clicking?
I don’t think people are mad that a gore movie obviously comes with gore. They are bothered with the “gore” genre over all. Terrifier just happens to be the runner up at the moment so thats why they are criticizing it.
ive never seen terrifier and im trying to see how long i can keep it that way because every terrifier fan ive ever met is really annoying
I can confirm terrifier fans are extremely annoying because my friends started to watch it during class and they would not stop YELLING whenever they saw art 💀💀💀
You too? I know this one girl who makes Terrifier and Joker her entire personality and I can confirm she's . . . uncomfortable to be around. Also the biggest music snob I've ever met.
@@theMyRadiowasTaken Agree. The only ones I’ve met fall into the edge-lord category. The whole “you guys just don’t wanna see it bc yall are soft and babies🤪” thing.
@@goodnightblu yeah, most of them are like urban spooks fans. Just a bunch of edgelord being edgy. I actually like terrifier though, just cause it was kinda unpredictable what he would do. Since he has very horrid ways of killing and doesn't even speak.
my friends and i tried to watch the first one on halloween; we didnt turn it off because it was ahh scary, we turned it off because its genuinely fucking ass. and i mean yeah i dont wanna see a woman get sawed in half pussy-first, these movies just love torturing naked women like no thanks. put on saw 2004 and it was incredible
A friend pressured me into watching the first film, and it scared me a bit. Spent its entire duration laughing at the plot, acting, setting, etc.. Honestly, I find it surprising people like this thing. If its purpose is just a "brutal, gory, etc." film there are already many better choices. The plot seemed cheap, with little thought put into it, and what I'd think would be better at the cost of it, the special effects, make-up and the such, isn't really, it's worse in that aspect than older films even.
I'm easily, EASILY, scared, but this movie looked almost as if someone wanted to make a critic of the genre by making it the funniest possible, by means of making it ridiculous and unrealistic, which I get it, it's not meant to, but it just kept me from even getting into the plot. Heck, the gory parts (the bisected blond woman, for example) reminded me about "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"'s Black Knight when he's been "de-limbed" (don't know the word in English), which seemed quite hilarious to me. Not me, but one of the other people I had watched it with, halfway through the movie, did mention it seemed that the protagonist (meaning the clown) seemed to be a bit misogynistic, with him murdering the women particularly more brutally than the men, and the women characters being quite stupid, exploiting just some stereotypes (cat lady, stupid blonde) and also wearing the woman's parts, the latter jut seeming gratuitous and besides the point. Looking at it like that, it does seem like it is, or at least the character is meant to be (in which case then whomever thought up the movie and script is just flat-out bad at their job and lacking in creativity).
After reading some transcripts about the creator's thoughts, it seems to me he leaned quite too much into some tropes.
I think most people know art the clown and his GRUsome kills I remember watching elvis the alien video about terrifier & that saw-in-half kill was stuck on my mind for days
@@M1ch43lRoyElvis is awesome. That is how I get my dose of Terrifer.
I remember watching that video and the Dead Meat video before it got this big
Yeah that’s how I first found out about Terrifier, before the sequel came out
I think the transphobia claim comes from the scene where Art skins the homeless woman and dances around wearing her hair and boobs, it gives off a very buffalo bill kinda vibe
Edit: Yes, buffalo bill is a transphobic character, that I'd objectively true. No, I am not saying this movie is transphobic, so pointing out that any of the actors are queer is irrelevant. Also, anyone being outright transphobic here, you're commenting on a video by a trans creator.
Yeahhh anyone claiming that’s transphobia is an idiot
Feels more like classic Art the Clown shenanigans. That sounds more like Buffalo Bill like you mentioned, or even Ed Gein
@mrsurge4789 I wouldn't say they're stupid. The horror genre has a history of transphobia and that scene invokes a lot of the same imagery. Even if that wasn't the intention, the implication is undeniably there.
@amazingspiderlad sexism, homophobia, and transphobia are so prevalent in media especially horror, that it doesn't even register as being there if you're not educated to it or part of those groups. It's really not meant as an attack to the audience until they start calling people names when it gets brought up. Advocating for less internalized bigotry from the media that gets fed to millions of people isn't really the censorship problem some people think it is. It's just about respect and being better.
Ironically terrifier was the first movie where I was like...wait a minute yo...this seems kinda gross. And not in the way the creators think it is
I'm very much not the target audience I guess
@@mrsurge4789 dude buffalo bill is just transphobic
This feels like when people were claiming Pennywise was homophobic for that one part of the 2nd (?) film. It’s really not it, not that deep.
My problem with this movie is that it offers nothing but shock media, it is as mid as a movie can be, and the only thing I like is the terriclown, I think it could've been executed way better if the writers actually wrote something at least mildly interesting and satisfying to watch instead of empty edgy stuff. For me, this series is a solid 5/10 being very generous.
As someone who's waaaaaaaaaay too chicken to actually watch these movies (although I love horror in general, the gore levels here just sound a touch too high), this video has gotten me extremely invested in the plot and themes, particularly Sienna's arc. I almost wish there was a fan-cut of the movies that cuts around the gory bits, something like "Terrifier: The Plot Cut" although ik that's kind of an insult to the effects work and to the people who like the gore, for me I would love to watch the parts of the movies that delve into character and plot stuff but wouldn't know where to skip around to avoid the #gross.
Anyway thanks for making the video, it's great!
I don't think it's either. One of the biggest complaints of Terrifier that I see is that it's just gore and nothing else, but honestly not all movies have to be deep and intricate. Sometimes all people want is goofy clown killing people in absurdly gruesome ways and it really delivers in that aspect. The films are nothing groundbreaking in terms of story, but it's some of the most fun I've had watching slasher films in a while. Art the clown is also just an insanely memorable and fantastic villain. I think the director knew exactly what he wanted the series to be and executed it perfectly. The movies truly feel like a love letter to the cheesy grindhouse slasher films of the 80s. I think most people understood this up until Terrifier 3 released. The first 2 films we're kind of cult classics. Terrifier 3 is the entry that made the series hit the mainstream, and I think most of the outrage stems from the fact that most people aren't used to films with this much violence and gore, especially ones that received theatrical releases. Terrifier 3 definitely pushed the boundaries for what can be shown in theaters, but it is farrr from the first ultra violent and disturbing film ever made. I'd argue there's many, way worse movies out there than Terrifier but Terrifier takes all the blame because of how popular it became
I think the problem it's the extremely edgy discourse around the movies, from the fans and the trailers, They oftenly focus on the shock factor instead of the characters or storytelling which is not bad at itself but it's obviously left aside for the gore scenes. I honestly won't be interested in watching a movie when their main appeal is "It's very scary 😢😮". Even some of my friends talked about how everybody is going there probably thinking they are so 'special and edgy, against the woke' for liking the movies and I think a part of the public thinks the same about art the clown.
I’m glad you like The Wild Robot
I read the book in fifth grade and Kit Connor is my celebrity crush so a win win!
@@LegosWithLouis I also like the wild robot
It is a beautiful movie.
i am drawing a man in a maid dress. thank you for asking
I was drawing a cat boy 😭 I mean it’s a member of a band but-
@@aliciamarrow7062 Nice pfp
4:40 Not an artist, but currently crocheting a Gandalf plush for my college's Tolkien Society to make up for hounding them for interviews for a journalism project. His head is turning out way too big but nevertheless I persist.
Had a halloween movie marathon (Which had terrifier 2) until 2am and now watching this at school while sleep deprived lmao
omg??? i have today off because halloween was yesterday
@@joshuamelgar6251 what im so jealous
YAYYY I LOVE HALLOWEEN VIDEOS! Also my Quinn plushie arrived, so I’ll be watching this video with the little goober :3
Same!!!!! My Quinn plush came two days ago and it’s literally the silliest thing ever
@ It is!!!! I have it next to my Rockstar Freddy plush currently and it looks so devious 😈
@ Geahhhahahah!!! 🦅🦅🦅
how did he feel about the quinn death scene at the end
@ The what 😨
As a Ice Nine Kills fan, I cannot suggest more the song than “A Work of Art”. I suggest them if you like metal and horror because they have a ton of good songs based off famous horror and thriller franchises (Resident Evil, Evil Dead, Nightmare on Elm, Friday the 13th, Halloween, etc.)
Honestly, I love these movies. It’s a horror movie. Splatter, gore, uses heavy sounds and also lack of music here and there. It really just is as the name suggest, “terrifier”. But I really just hate that there will always be media overhyping the gore and their constant repetition of people throwing up, fainting, gagging, leaving, covering their eyes and ears and whatnot. Sure it happens but they really go to the point of paying people to overreact for reaction cams, and then have a scoop…
That and also the overwhelming lack of age control for people who watch it. It is NOT for kids. Age restricted. And where I’m from, in France, it is the first movie to have received a “pg 18” in twenty years! The last one being Saw 3. Yeah. That is how hard it is to get such rating in France.
Believe it or not, since the 80’s people have loved slashers. Terrifier is a breath of fresh air for the genre
1:36:31 oh that’s gore… that’s gore of my comfort character…