@NW3D Yeah I was thinking the same and realized it was true when he started talking about carrying the chain lube. Still a well done and Id say accurate review. I picked one up at 98mi almost a year ago and put 8000 on it mostly single track mine looks like a dirtbike now lol
Very informative video Ron. Its in the top 5% of all motorcycle review videos simply because you took some time to plan it, were articulate and set your camera in a steady spot. Some of the videos out there could give a guy as seizure or stroke just trying to watch it.
Great review and talking points i cant wait to get another xr650l. Best bike i ever had. What people dont understand is caveman tech wont leave you stranded. I love my ktm's and huskies for performance but when it comes to an adventure enduro these oldschool aircooled primitive bikes do the trick better than anything else.
Great video I recently bought a 2021 XR650L, and these great videos are giving me lots of ideas to personalize my new bike. I’ve been a motocross guy my whole life and my age is leading me to more mellow riding that includes my wife as a passenger from time to time. Thanks again... Oh, and brand new, my XR listed for 6999
Thanks R/R for a very good video. Thinking about buying my brothers XRL . Rode it several times and like how solid it feels on pavement and dirt roads.
Excellent video Ron, much appreciated. You took a lot of time to put that together as a review; but you made it look like it was natural. Well done and thanks again mate!
Hey Ron, GREAT video!! I'm thinking I'm going to go ahead with my first choice from he start. This bike! I'm the same height as you and was concerned about the lowering link sacrificing ground clearance . Not so! I'll have a passenger here and there so I need my feet planted firmly on the ground when she's getting on the back. I also noticed the smog delete was done. I'm 51 yrs. old and dying to ride off-road again! Thanks again my good man!!
just got mine on Saturday. Brand new off the floor at cycle county in Oregon great people over there made me feel part of the family and most definitely be back to finance a bike for the my kids. My dad is 56 and scored a 2001 he needed a riding buddy. Didn’t come with tool kit. Said I didn’t need lol.
Hi Ron, Great vid. great modification points to ponder. At 45, I'm looking to purchase my first motorcycle. I've looked at just about all of them and have done a LOT of pre-purchase research, Dirt, Street, Cruiser, Sport, Classic Retro (Standard), Cruiser, and I keep coming back to the Dual Sport for the versatility. I've been looking at the CRF250L, which appears to be growing in popularity. The primary reason, for me, is the seat height. 5'6" 220lb, I have a 29" inseam and bone stock, with a 37" seat height, the XR650L is jussst a wee bit in the clouds for me. The only remedy that I have been able to find is the following: The Kouba Link is one useful first option, lowering the front forks, the other option would be shaving the seat 2-3 inches. With regard to the rack, I'd probably have to work with a metal fab and machine shop to develop a very useful and practical pannier and top box set for the bike, which would be geared toward commute, grocery shopping and fishing/camping trips. I DO like the hour meter and tach gauge. Considering the combined weight, I figure an adjustable rear shock is probably going to be required. As for the CRF250L, the bike certainly doesn't seem to be a bad alternative, BUT...... For all it's pros, it does have it's share of cons. For me, it's primarily in the way of engine size. I am uncertain whether it is a bike that I would outgrow. I kinda wonder about that part from time to time. I think the 250 is probably what I will end up with, but the 650, with the mods, sure is tempting, too. Perhaps a future acquisition after I've put some time in? IF Honda could come up with a CRF450L that was water-cooled, fuel injected, 6 speed, 250L seat height, with the adjustable suspension, I think the bike could turn out be a darned nice machine for someone like myself who's primary interest is versatility, fuel economy and of course, be more accessible to us shorter stature'd folks. Thanks for sharing. :>)
Hello Twinhit. What did you end up buying in the end? I am curious because I own both a CRF250L and an XR650L. I could have plenty of sound advice based on owning and riding both daily. Anyway.... hope you respond.
@@xrrider914 I'm in a similar situation to the OP. I'm new to bikes, but I've been driving stickshift and fast cars all my life so I feel like I'd outgrow a 250 quickly. I'm trying to decide between the Honda 650 and the Suzuki DR650. I honestly don't like the look of the KLR. I'd be using my bike 50/50; commuting 50 miles roundtrip to work on nice days and also on off-road trails when I go hunting/ camping etc. A lot of people are saying the Honda is more for off-road. Am I gonna eat it if I take a corner too fast?
@@cg9608 Hi Chris. I will try to help a little. If you are new to bikes as you say, and you are planning on commuting AND doing some trails, you would probably be better off starting with something smaller than the 650's. There are other very good dual purpose bikes out there that are comparable to the CRF, but I will stick to only the bikes that you mentioned ok? Here goes : The CRF is a very manageable bike on the asphalt and in the city. You will be able to handle it much more confidently around traffic. It is probably mostly due to the fact that it is much lighter than the XR and the centre of gravity is way lower. It inspires confidence. You will probably have more fun and be safer. I also commute approx. 50 miles to work and I enjoy those rides. I found the CRF lacked some pep. I changed the sprockets (smalller up front & larger in the back) and that helped a lot. Then I bought an aftermarket pipe & presto, more usable power that transformed the bike. It literally transformed the bike! Up to 65MPH the CRF shouldn't disappoint you As for cornering, it all depends on the tires you buy. If you buy some dual purpose tires with smallish knobbies, you can corner more aggressively. But you will then have trouble in the trails. Between the Suzuki 650 & the Honda 650, I would recommend the XR. If you look closely at both bikes in regards to street riding and trail riding, I can't see that the Suzuki has anything at all over the XR, no advantages anywhere. Both bikes are very good though, whichever one you choose. The XR has more power for sure. Dependable as hell. Probably too much bike to learn on in the trails. Learning on the XR on the street should be ok. On the street, commuting and in traffic, the XR is a good bike to learn on but you might actually be safer on the CRF. Think of it this way; if you aren't planning on racing but want to really learn how to ride, and zip around town, do some trails on a bike that will allow you to do so without killing yourself, then a CRF250L would be a good choice. And if you end up outgrowing it after a season or two, then so be it. By then you will know exactly which bike you will need next to suit your needs and preferences. Where do you live Chris? and when are you planning on buying? Keep me posted if you like, I would like to hear about how it goes.
@@xrrider914 Thanks for the feedback! I hear you with the 250, but ive made up my mind and ruled it out. You made a great point though and that is the center of gravity. I see people acknowledge the XR being top heavy. It also sits higher at 37". It's going to come down to comfortability (is the seat too high? The DR is 3" lower...) and power. You said the Honda is faster, but my research shows it at 40HP vs 46HP DR? Maybe it has better gearing, more torque, higher rpms? I'll probably keep the stock knobbies and buy more street appropriate tires. Just change them out depending what I'm doing. I hear you with the safety concern, but the highway/ towns/ hills won't he for a while. I'll be practicing in large fields and empty back roads. I got a truck to haul it wherever to practice! I'm in eastern PA. Gonna buy asap once I decide which bike (Leaning towards honda bc reputation and looks). Found a 2015 with 1.5k miles for $5.5k recently...
I was torn between the KLR & the Honda,........... But I have always had good luck with Honda. Honda 650l it is........... Thanx! :). Awesome video...........
I just found a 2006 XR650L for $1225., its suppose to have only 800 miles on it. Really looking forward to making it as nice as your! Great vid too thanks.
Baja Designs has a electric starter kit for the R models. Im 53 now and some days wish I had one on my XR650R. Theres a few vids of it on my channel. I run Pirelli MT21 tires. 10% street 90% offroad. Also my aircooled model can trail ride very slow all day while my water cooled one has to keep moving a little faster to stay cool. BUT I live in Arizona Desert 116 the other day. Oh the 2000 Rs are much lighter with aluminum frame no batt or starter no blinkers. Let me know if you have question
Thanks for making the video. I like the dog at the end and the wife saying "Are you sellin' it". I have been considering the KLR but will look into other options now.
que hermosa maquina.. y que bien cuidadita la tiene el tipo este. Un saludo de Uruguay.. y Honda la mejor maquina del mundo. saludos a todos los fanáticos de Honda como yo ..
Very nice info, Sir. Thank you. I am in the middle of the dual sport buying decisions right now. I have had 3 XR's in my motorcycling history: 2 500's and a 400. Have loved them all. So like you, I am predisposed to the Honda. My main decision now is used bike vs. new. Really appreciate your advice, information, detailed mods and most of all adding up the mods/budget info. A consideration of mine as well. Love how your bike looks too! Many thanks. Well done!
Just to clarify, The seat height is FINE on this bike. I started riding a 250X, which sits slightly higher and has harder suspension, when I was 5'10", and I never had problems. I recently sold it and now own a 650 Thumper, and I have to say that I LOVE the 650L. The suspension is very soft stock, so it could use a little pumping up for the dirt, and the "deathwing" dual sport tires make sand interesting, but otherwise, I have never been happier with a bike. Loving what you did with yours!
Good informative video Ron. Rode a CR250 for years as a kid and now want a dual sport bike. I'm leaning towards the Honda, seat height not a big deal I'm 6'3". Found a few good deals around $4k with minimal miles.
I have a 2008 XR650l. With a 30 inch imseam, I added the lowering link, and the Saddleman Dual Purpose seat. I also lowered the front end an inch and a half by loosening the triple trees. I can ride it much better than before. I love the Thumper!
+DR Dan I have one, 2012 XR. raised bars up 3" and forward 3" Lowering link, A-LOOP tank/seat/kit, MEFO rear 140/80-18 . 14 tooth up frt and easily change to 13t If I want to trail ride the day. Love the pig and I got 10k miles outta the MEFO, I recommend highly. check it my ch and have a laugh as well :)
Thanks a lot. you made some good points and comparisons between the bikes, especially the ground to motor gap, that's something I would've missed. Thanks.
You would be just right for the bike. I'm 6'4" too, and 210lb and I'm comfortable on the bike. I have 37" inseam and can sit flat footed on it with the stock seat height.
Excellent information and advice! I ride the BMW GSA and is so comfortable and while standing it feels so balanced. I also have the XR650L. Although I live the motor this bike is a real odd ball feel bike while standing. It feels like the foot pegs should be lowered as my knees feel to high on the tank. It’s very too heavy. Most cases you don’t need such extreme ground clearance. I’m lowering my XL with the link and shortening the front shocks in the trees. Get the bike down and enjoy a lower stance if you don’t need the clearance. I’m 6’ with a 32” inseam.
Great video! thanks for taking the time to go over all the details...I am looking for a bike now that my wife and i can take on little trips and i can take in the back woods. This really helped me out in my research.
My XR650L / XR600 engine. 50lbs. lighter but no electric start. I'm at 80% dirt. Basically a street legal XR600. Love reliability. Super low maintenance. Energizer bunny of Dualsports.
Edlebrock made a carb for the XRs that can run on its side with fast response and no flooding. esay to tune for altitude changes as well. Oh and depanding on what state your in the XRs are legal for street with mods. And very very little mods in Arizona needed. Ive seen the eastern states are hard on the laws for fun vehicles heck we got quads on the freeways out here.
Love the honda xr my first was an xr 100! But I must say I got a 2006 DRZ 400 and I'm more than satisfied what a few mods I'm hanging in there with all of them
I agree! I got the XR650L because I wanted to take jumps (albeit small ones) at the motocross track. I couldn't imagine a KLR or a BMW doing well on the track or in very rough terrain!
im 6'5 255lbs in full kit and i drive the XR 650R only problem i've had so far is the stock suspension is for someone around 180lbs so ive had to get heavier springs so just find out about that for this bike and remember to include your baggage weight into the calculations if youre gonna be doing touring etc...
I had the 650R and it's a freakin monster. I like tight trails and it was just more bike than needed, which made it unruly. Plus you need Premium fuel. Going fast in desert or fire roads the bike was amazing. I miss the bike a lot, but have been happy with my xr400.
After having owned 2 KLR650's and a KLR250, I was tired of the slowness and the doohickey mods on the 650's and lack of off-road capability of those bikes. Plus the weakness of liquid cooling off-road (think stick into the radiator). So I went back to my roots (Z50A 1969) and got an XR650L, 2007. Wow, what a difference. It came already with the Pro-Taper bars, jetted carb and de-smogged, with a DG pipe.The bike will hold 75 on the highway easily with more to go and does really good on trails. I have been holding off on getting another gas tank like a Clarke 4.8 gallon, mostly because of the cost and I have to ask a question here about the tank. Does the Clarke have 2 petcocks or just one? And if only one, do you have to rock the bike over to the left to get the remaining gas out of it?I have a stock exhaust pipe, but when I put it on for quietness, the bike loses all kinds of torque and top end and will only do 65 on the same highway. The DG weighs in at nothing compared to stock, so it's staying on there. I am going to get a rear rack from the internet and some other goodies as cash permits. Would I go back to a KLR? No. The torque and power won me over. Thanks for a relaxed review of your bike.
I've owned the R and L version and would prefer the R version as the performance differance is significant no matter what you do to improve the L it just isn't as strong.
Nice informative video! I'm just thinking of getting a second bike to start exploring the gravel and light back country. The fuel range is a huge deal, so it's nice to know that all those issues can be addressed at such a reasonable investment price. I just want something that is reliable & light...I was leaning to the KLR mostly due to the fuel capacity. It's comfortable and reliable with a huge fuel range...but I'm not adverse to any of the brands (except BMW for the reason you mentioned)
any concerns with gas tank discoloration. I've seen some white tanks that turn yellow after some time. I would hate to have to change out a good tank just because it started looking bad.
Great video Ron. Thanks for taking the time. I had a 2006 XR650 L It was a great bike. As you mentioned very tall, at 6.2 it was even still a bit on the high side... and I miss it, now I am in the process of rebuilding my 2007 KLR. Im liking all the gadget mounts want that for mine this time.. Ram mount?
Great video! So much cost worthy informations thanks men. But if i could give you some constructive critisism it would be great if you could add the numbers in meters as annotation as im german and have to pause and google every time you talk about foots and punds :D (i hope my english is understandable)
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Great review Ron , and a great bike too . Honda is for me the best choice . Honda XR400 is my preference
Good video, I've set up lots of DS /mini adv bikes for several customers. I realize it's another price bracket but I like the 690s for bigger bikes and 500 excs for superight.
Great video Ron, very focused with lots of good detail! I've been street riding for many years but am looking to get into dual sport and am trying to decide between the Kawasaki KLR and the Honda. I think my mind is made up.
Where did you get the mount for the XM radio?. I am thinking of purchasing a KLX 650 in the next few months and you have the coolest products.This video is the BEST by far of all I have watched.Cant believe you sold the XR, but we all need to be happy with our bikes. Thanks for the video.
Back in 2005 I owned a new KLR 650, I really liked it, but I also have a astigmatism in my eyes and need lots of light for night riding, always wanted to know do bikes like the XR 650 have the extra electrical capacity to run auxiliary lights, maybe an HID system if available.
Hey good video & good choice for a dual sport bike. Like your up grades you may want to think about getting a dry battery & mounting it under the seat than you can get rid of the heavy wet one & the metal box it's in & ignitioin. That would get rid of more weight. Your bike is good choice for someone that does 80 percent of riding off road which is what I like to do the most. Nice bike!
Cool bike. You’re right honda's are good reliable bikes. Over 20 motorbikes owed I really like the Honda’s xl & xr 500, 600 & 650. In fact I style have in my basement a 1986 xl 600 frame on a 650 xr engine, really fun to drive. I was wandering where you got the signal lights. I really love the inserted ones at the front, are they LED lights also? Thanks for sharing & if you ever come down East (Canada, Quebec) let me know, I’ll show you great places in the world.
Great points, and thank you for declaring your bias early on! :). As a KLR guy I of course believe it was sent from the Kawi heavens to ride on water and reverse my age...
The XR650 will not be denied! As you know, a monster in dirt- basically hydroplanes over terrain. I strongly recommend going to Blue lake just west of s Tahoe) The road going in (off of 88 I believe) has the scenery of Yosemite and the topography of luguna seca- 6 miles of riding bliss. The trails on either side of 395 north of Lee Vining and south of Bridgeport are heavenly to ride- soil is like oatmeal, with a good mix of rolling hills etc.
That's a great looking 650l .. really informative video too. I have the XR650R which I love but wish it had the E start and lighting of the L. We don't get the L model in the UK, but I'm sure you could import one. Steve
I was looking at upgrading my xt 225 and I chose an 2001 XR 400 that has been dual sported. It is at least 100 pounds less, way better for off road but it is geared a bit to low for the highwsy. I miss the electric start, but boy does it climb hills offroad.
Hey guys! Grey vid, lots of info! I'm between a 2002 xr650l motor has been already rebuild for $4800, or a 2008 Dr650 with 11000 km for $6000. Which one would you go for?
The best improvement I made to my XR650L was to replace the 45 tooth rear sprocket with a 50 tooth. This makes the gearing almost perfect for street and dirt.
Raymond Johansen , I currently have a DR650 but used to have an XR650L. The DR is definitely smoother in every way; engine, ride, and handling. Keep in mind the XR650L was originally designed as a dedicated dirt bike (derived from the old XR600 dirt only model). The DR650 was designed as a true dual sport and it's very good at that. The Honda I had felt much more like a real dirt bike and felt better off road, but not silky smooth like the Suzuki when on the highway. Can't speak for the KLR because I've never ridden one.
Ron, cheers for the great insight, im just about to buy either a Xr600R or the XR650L in your opinion what is the best one to go for? its purley for green laning here in the UK so minimum road use..
Jake, the l is the street legal version that came out in 93. The r came out in 2000 and its the dirt only version- aluminum frame, kick start, a little lighter
I sold my XR and bought a Triumph Tiger 800. I'm doing more adventure riding now. I love my Triumph a bunch and it is fast...but...nothing feels as much like a tractor with speed than an XR. I wish I had it back!
Hey Ron! Just got back here from your ktm review, i though they had about 71horse 6 speed, when I heard that I though maybe I should get one ... Then I saw the price an decided I really like my honda! Lol anyway I was looking at your vid again because I finally bought me a pumper carb. Fcr mx 40mm , all the set ups I've found pertain to sea leval, an I know you were running something similar on your mod video. (Maybe)Haven't been able to come across it again . I'm at 5000 ft an think your probably close to that aren't you? Maybe it was a different video. Been taking something to improve my memory , can't remember what it is right now. Lol but when I'm riding in colo ill wave at ktm 's just in case it's you ! ✊live to ride , ride to live
Thanks for the info, already two weeks ago i buy a 2001 i´m in dominican republic, but i buy like a proyect to restore, the bike is runnig pretty well, but a few things is missing, and you are 100% true in your las comment thanks for share this helpfull Video! And enjoy the bike!
One of the classiest, most professional and informative videos on youtube. Thanks for a job well done!
@NW3D Yeah I was thinking the same and realized it was true when he started talking about carrying the chain lube. Still a well done and Id say accurate review. I picked one up at 98mi almost a year ago and put 8000 on it mostly single track mine looks like a dirtbike now lol
I agree!
Very informative video Ron. Its in the top 5% of all motorcycle review videos simply because you took some time to plan it, were articulate and set your camera in a steady spot. Some of the videos out there could give a guy as seizure or stroke just trying to watch it.
That is the cleanest Honda Xr I have ever seen. Good work in your presentation of the bike.
Bruce Mcmurtrie No doubt, I was thinking the same thing.
thx Ron, despite the age of this video and the number of others since, this is the best enduro review I've seen re the Honda. Much appreciated.
Great review and talking points i cant wait to get another xr650l. Best bike i ever had. What people dont understand is caveman tech wont leave you stranded. I love my ktm's and huskies for performance but when it comes to an adventure enduro these oldschool aircooled primitive bikes do the trick better than anything else.
Great video
I recently bought a 2021 XR650L, and these great videos are giving me lots of ideas to personalize my new bike.
I’ve been a motocross guy my whole life and my age is leading me to more mellow riding that includes my wife as a passenger from time to time.
Thanks again...
Oh, and brand new, my XR listed for 6999
Thanks R/R for a very good video. Thinking about buying my brothers XRL . Rode it several times and like how solid it feels on pavement and dirt roads.
Excellent video Ron, much appreciated. You took a lot of time to put that together as a review; but you made it look like it was natural. Well done and thanks again mate!
Hey Ron, GREAT video!! I'm thinking I'm going to go ahead with my first choice from he start. This bike! I'm the same height as you and was concerned about the lowering link sacrificing ground clearance . Not so! I'll have a passenger here and there so I need my feet planted firmly on the ground when she's getting on the back. I also noticed the smog delete was done. I'm 51 yrs. old and dying to ride off-road again! Thanks again my good man!!
just got mine on Saturday. Brand new off the floor at cycle county in Oregon great people over there made me feel part of the family and most definitely be back to finance a bike for the my kids. My dad is 56 and scored a 2001 he needed a riding buddy. Didn’t come with tool kit. Said I didn’t need lol.
Hi Ron, Great vid. great modification points to ponder.
At 45, I'm looking to purchase my first motorcycle. I've looked at just about all of them and have done a LOT of pre-purchase research, Dirt, Street, Cruiser, Sport, Classic Retro (Standard), Cruiser, and I keep coming back to the Dual Sport for the versatility.
I've been looking at the CRF250L, which appears to be growing in popularity. The primary reason, for me, is the seat height. 5'6" 220lb, I have a 29" inseam and
bone stock, with a 37" seat height, the XR650L is jussst a wee bit in the clouds for me.
The only remedy that I have been able to find is the following:
The Kouba Link is one useful first option, lowering the front forks, the other option would be shaving the seat 2-3 inches.
With regard to the rack, I'd probably have to work with a metal fab and machine shop to develop a very useful and practical pannier and top box set for the bike, which would be geared toward commute, grocery shopping and fishing/camping trips.
I DO like the hour meter and tach gauge.
Considering the combined weight, I figure an adjustable rear shock is probably going to be required.
As for the CRF250L, the bike certainly doesn't seem to be a bad alternative, BUT......
For all it's pros, it does have it's share of cons. For me, it's primarily in the way of engine size. I am uncertain whether it is a bike that I would outgrow. I kinda wonder about that part from time to time. I think the 250 is probably what I will end up with,
but the 650, with the mods, sure is tempting, too. Perhaps a future acquisition after
I've put some time in?
IF Honda could come up with a CRF450L that was water-cooled, fuel injected, 6 speed, 250L seat height, with the adjustable suspension, I think the bike could turn out be a
darned nice machine for someone like myself who's primary interest is versatility, fuel
economy and of course, be more accessible to us shorter stature'd folks.
Thanks for sharing. :>)
Twinhit did you ever buy a bike?
Hello Twinhit. What did you end up buying in the end? I am curious because I own both a CRF250L and an XR650L. I could have plenty of sound advice based on owning and riding both daily. Anyway.... hope you respond.
@@xrrider914 I'm in a similar situation to the OP. I'm new to bikes, but I've been driving stickshift and fast cars all my life so I feel like I'd outgrow a 250 quickly. I'm trying to decide between the Honda 650 and the Suzuki DR650. I honestly don't like the look of the KLR. I'd be using my bike 50/50; commuting 50 miles roundtrip to work on nice days and also on off-road trails when I go hunting/ camping etc. A lot of people are saying the Honda is more for off-road. Am I gonna eat it if I take a corner too fast?
@@cg9608 Hi Chris. I will try to help a little. If you are new to bikes as you say, and you are planning on commuting AND doing some trails, you would probably be better off starting with something smaller than the 650's. There are other very good dual purpose bikes out there that are comparable to the CRF, but I will stick to only the bikes that you mentioned ok? Here goes :
The CRF is a very manageable bike on the asphalt and in the city. You will be able to handle it much more confidently around traffic. It is probably mostly due to the fact that it is much lighter than the XR and the centre of gravity is way lower. It inspires confidence. You will probably have more fun and be safer. I also commute approx. 50 miles to work and I enjoy those rides. I found the CRF lacked some pep. I changed the sprockets (smalller up front & larger in the back) and that helped a lot. Then I bought an aftermarket pipe & presto, more usable power that transformed the bike. It literally transformed the bike! Up to 65MPH the CRF shouldn't disappoint you As for cornering, it all depends on the tires you buy. If you buy some dual purpose tires with smallish knobbies, you can corner more aggressively. But you will then have trouble in the trails.
Between the Suzuki 650 & the Honda 650, I would recommend the XR. If you look closely at both bikes in regards to street riding and trail riding, I can't see that the Suzuki has anything at all over the XR, no advantages anywhere. Both bikes are very good though, whichever one you choose. The XR has more power for sure. Dependable as hell. Probably too much bike to learn on in the trails. Learning on the XR on the street should be ok. On the street, commuting and in traffic, the XR is a good bike to learn on but you might actually be safer on the CRF.
Think of it this way; if you aren't planning on racing but want to really learn how to ride, and zip around town, do some trails on a bike that will allow you to do so without killing yourself, then a CRF250L would be a good choice. And if you end up outgrowing it after a season or two, then so be it. By then you will know exactly which bike you will need next to suit your needs and preferences. Where do you live Chris? and when are you planning on buying? Keep me posted if you like, I would like to hear about how it goes.
@@xrrider914 Thanks for the feedback! I hear you with the 250, but ive made up my mind and ruled it out. You made a great point though and that is the center of gravity. I see people acknowledge the XR being top heavy. It also sits higher at 37".
It's going to come down to comfortability (is the seat too high? The DR is 3" lower...) and power. You said the Honda is faster, but my research shows it at 40HP vs 46HP DR? Maybe it has better gearing, more torque, higher rpms?
I'll probably keep the stock knobbies and buy more street appropriate tires. Just change them out depending what I'm doing. I hear you with the safety concern, but the highway/ towns/ hills won't he for a while. I'll be practicing in large fields and empty back roads. I got a truck to haul it wherever to practice! I'm in eastern PA. Gonna buy asap once I decide which bike (Leaning towards honda bc reputation and looks). Found a 2015 with 1.5k miles for $5.5k recently...
I was torn between the KLR & the Honda,........... But I have always had good luck with Honda. Honda 650l it is........... Thanx! :). Awesome video...........
"your're selling it?" lol now that was funny! glad you didn't edit that out
I just found a 2006 XR650L for $1225., its suppose to have only 800 miles on it. Really looking forward to making it as nice as your! Great vid too thanks.
Baja Designs has a electric starter kit for the R models. Im 53 now and some days wish I had one on my XR650R. Theres a few vids of it on my channel. I run Pirelli MT21 tires. 10% street 90% offroad. Also my aircooled model can trail ride very slow all day while my water cooled one has to keep moving a little faster to stay cool. BUT I live in Arizona Desert 116 the other day. Oh the 2000 Rs are much lighter with aluminum frame no batt or starter no blinkers. Let me know if you have question
Thanks for making the video. I like the dog at the end and the wife saying "Are you sellin' it". I have been considering the KLR but will look into other options now.
Nice clean bike with sensible mods. God knows I love a good rack!
que hermosa maquina.. y que bien cuidadita la tiene el tipo este. Un saludo de Uruguay.. y Honda la mejor maquina del mundo. saludos a todos los fanáticos de Honda como yo ..
I really like your videos, you are very concise and have a good fast pace. Please do more!
Very nice info, Sir. Thank you. I am in the middle of the dual sport buying decisions right now. I have had 3 XR's in my motorcycling history: 2 500's and a 400. Have loved them all. So like you, I am predisposed to the Honda. My main decision now is used bike vs. new. Really appreciate your advice, information, detailed mods and most of all adding up the mods/budget info. A consideration of mine as well. Love how your bike looks too! Many thanks. Well done!
Just to clarify, The seat height is FINE on this bike. I started riding a 250X, which sits slightly higher and has harder suspension, when I was 5'10", and I never had problems. I recently sold it and now own a 650 Thumper, and I have to say that I LOVE the 650L. The suspension is very soft stock, so it could use a little pumping up for the dirt, and the "deathwing" dual sport tires make sand interesting, but otherwise, I have never been happier with a bike. Loving what you did with yours!
Good informative video Ron. Rode a CR250 for years as a kid and now want a dual sport bike. I'm leaning towards the Honda, seat height not a big deal I'm 6'3". Found a few good deals around $4k with minimal miles.
That's exactly what I did to make my xr400 run perfect! Two notches from the top with a 58 and a 60. Clean bike!
I have a 2008 XR650l. With a 30 inch imseam, I added the lowering link, and the Saddleman Dual Purpose seat. I also lowered the front end an inch and a half by loosening the triple trees. I can ride it much better than before. I love the Thumper!
Thanks Ron, well done. Keeping my DR650 for height reasons, but the XR is a classic.
Great video Ron . I've been looking at the KLR and the XR and I think you may have made the decision for me. Thank you!
+DR Dan Don't DR, XR :))
+twing21able but get the lowering Lnk
+DR Dan I have one, 2012 XR. raised bars up 3" and forward 3" Lowering link, A-LOOP tank/seat/kit, MEFO rear 140/80-18 . 14 tooth up frt and easily change to 13t If I want to trail ride the day. Love the pig and I got 10k miles outta the MEFO, I recommend highly. check it my ch and have a laugh as well :)
Thanks a lot. you made some good points and comparisons between the bikes, especially the ground to motor gap, that's something I would've missed. Thanks.
smart guy. I'm going to buy a 1994 xr650l today for 1800 in excellent condition. I'm looking foward to it
I'm a Honda guy, so Honda it is
Excellent video and information.
Your voice makes me think Peter Strauss is talking...especially the last minute lol!
Thanks for posting this.
You would be just right for the bike. I'm 6'4" too, and 210lb and I'm comfortable on the bike. I have 37" inseam and can sit flat footed on it with the stock seat height.
Ive had a Xr400 for years and luv it (sank it in a stream and it started up in 20 min) Now im getting the XR650L
Thank You Sir!!!Very Good News…I just purchased a 2019 XR Honda L..Love you Bike Snd Miss…Safe Riding..God Bless
Excellent information and advice! I ride the BMW GSA and is so comfortable and while standing it feels so balanced. I also have the XR650L. Although I live the motor this bike is a real odd ball feel bike while standing. It feels like the foot pegs should be lowered as my knees feel to high on the tank. It’s very too heavy. Most cases you don’t need such extreme ground clearance. I’m lowering my XL with the link and shortening the front shocks in the trees. Get the bike down and enjoy a lower stance if you don’t need the clearance. I’m 6’ with a 32” inseam.
Thank you for the great info- really appreciate it. Doing a bishop-yocemite-mammoth-Tahoe run next week, mainly offroad. Happy riding to you!!
I wish all my hobbies had useful videos like this. Thanks for taking the time to make the vid.
Ron, Thanks for your response. The Tiger is a nice bike! Our mammoth, Tahoe etc trip was a blast. We adventured out by hwy, trail, sea!
Great video! thanks for taking the time to go over all the details...I am looking for a bike now that my wife and i can take on little trips and i can take in the back woods. This really helped me out in my research.
My XR650L / XR600 engine. 50lbs. lighter but no electric start. I'm at 80% dirt. Basically a street legal XR600. Love reliability. Super low maintenance. Energizer bunny of Dualsports.
Edlebrock made a carb for the XRs that can run on its side with fast response and no flooding. esay to tune for altitude changes as well. Oh and depanding on what state your in the XRs are legal for street with mods. And very very little mods in Arizona needed. Ive seen the eastern states are hard on the laws for fun vehicles heck we got quads on the freeways out here.
Very nice review. Great bike in fine condition
Love the honda xr my first was an xr 100! But I must say I got a 2006 DRZ 400 and I'm more than satisfied what a few mods I'm hanging in there with all of them
Thanks Ron. I'm getting that XR fever now...
Robert DeMilo I've had the same fever! All year long. I'm going to get my own in December ! Will update
I agree! I got the XR650L because I wanted to take jumps (albeit small ones) at the motocross track. I couldn't imagine a KLR or a BMW doing well on the track or in very rough terrain!
Good video. I have a YAMAHA WR450 street legal and I am thinking about switching to the Honda XRL650 since I am 70% road. Thanks for sharing,
Really enjoyed the info , great job, and tks for sharing the prices. Your pouchie just added flavor to the vid, realcute.
Really really nice bike and setup. that's exactly how i want my xr650 to be set up.
im 6'5 255lbs in full kit and i drive the XR 650R only problem i've had so far is the stock suspension is for someone around 180lbs so ive had to get heavier springs so just find out about that for this bike and remember to include your baggage weight into the calculations if youre gonna be doing touring etc...
I had the 650R and it's a freakin monster. I like tight trails and it was just more bike than needed, which made it unruly. Plus you need Premium fuel. Going fast in desert or fire roads the bike was amazing. I miss the bike a lot, but have been happy with my xr400.
Very helpful comparison and accessories overview! Thanks!
After having owned 2 KLR650's and a KLR250, I was tired of the slowness and the doohickey mods on the 650's and lack of off-road capability of those bikes. Plus the weakness of liquid cooling off-road (think stick into the radiator). So I went back to my roots (Z50A 1969) and got an XR650L, 2007. Wow, what a difference. It came already with the Pro-Taper bars, jetted carb and de-smogged, with a DG pipe.The bike will hold 75 on the highway easily with more to go and does really good on trails. I have been holding off on getting another gas tank like a Clarke 4.8 gallon, mostly because of the cost and I have to ask a question here about the tank. Does the Clarke have 2 petcocks or just one? And if only one, do you have to rock the bike over to the left to get the remaining gas out of it?I have a stock exhaust pipe, but when I put it on for quietness, the bike loses all kinds of torque and top end and will only do 65 on the same highway. The DG weighs in at nothing compared to stock, so it's staying on there. I am going to get a rear rack from the internet and some other goodies as cash permits. Would I go back to a KLR? No. The torque and power won me over. Thanks for a relaxed review of your bike.
I've owned the R and L version and would prefer the R version as the performance differance is significant no matter what you do to improve the L it just isn't as strong.
didn't know there is a diff between the 650L and 650R?
*600R
Nice informative video! I'm just thinking of getting a second bike to start exploring the gravel and light back country. The fuel range is a huge deal, so it's nice to know that all those issues can be addressed at such a reasonable investment price.
I just want something that is reliable & light...I was leaning to the KLR mostly due to the fuel capacity. It's comfortable and reliable with a huge fuel range...but I'm not adverse to any of the brands (except BMW for the reason you mentioned)
Could you link all the stuff you added? I would like to check it out, especially the LED blinkers.
any concerns with gas tank discoloration. I've seen some white tanks that turn yellow after some time. I would hate to have to change out a good tank just because it started looking bad.
Fabulous review and well put together bike. It would be the one that I would want to buy!
great review. picking my 650l up tomorrow
Great video Ron. Thanks for taking the time. I had a 2006 XR650 L It was a great bike. As you mentioned very tall, at 6.2 it was even still a bit on the high side... and I miss it, now I am in the process of rebuilding my 2007 KLR. Im liking all the gadget mounts want that for mine this time.. Ram mount?
Those front turn signals are so darn cool!!! Thanks for the tips! I luv my 2008 xr400l
Great video! So much cost worthy informations thanks men. But if i could give you some constructive critisism it would be great if you could add the numbers in meters as annotation as im german and have to pause and google every time you talk about foots and punds :D (i hope my english is understandable)
Great review Ron , and a great bike too . Honda is for me the best choice . Honda XR400 is my preference
Good video, I've set up lots of DS /mini adv bikes for several customers. I realize it's another price bracket but I like the 690s for bigger bikes and 500 excs for superight.
Great video Ron, very focused with lots of good detail! I've been street riding for many years but am looking to get into dual sport and am trying to decide between the Kawasaki KLR and the Honda. I think my mind is made up.
Great video - solid bike - XR 650 will always be my favorite bike 👍🏼
Thank you. Excellent guidance and commentary !
Where did you get the mount for the XM radio?. I am thinking of purchasing a KLX 650 in the next few months and you have the coolest products.This video is the BEST by far of all I have watched.Cant believe you sold the XR, but we all need to be happy with our bikes. Thanks for the video.
Back in 2005 I owned a new KLR 650, I really liked it, but I also have a astigmatism in my eyes and need lots of light for night riding, always wanted to know do bikes like the XR 650 have the extra electrical capacity to run auxiliary lights, maybe an HID system if available.
Hey good video & good choice for a dual sport bike. Like your up grades you may want to think about getting a dry battery & mounting it under the seat than you can get rid of the heavy wet one & the metal box it's in & ignitioin. That would get rid of more weight. Your bike is good choice for someone that does 80 percent of riding off road which is what I like to do the most. Nice bike!
Cool bike. You’re right honda's are good reliable bikes. Over 20 motorbikes owed I really like the Honda’s xl & xr 500, 600 & 650. In fact I style have in my basement a 1986 xl 600 frame on a 650 xr engine, really fun to drive. I was wandering where you got the signal lights. I really love the inserted ones at the front, are they LED lights also? Thanks for sharing & if you ever come down East (Canada, Quebec) let me know, I’ll show you great places in the world.
what size tank is that how many litres /gallons does it hold.
Very nice video, thank you. I hope you are enjoying your bike!
Great points, and thank you for declaring your bias early on! :). As a KLR guy I of course believe it was sent from the Kawi heavens to ride on water and reverse my age...
The XR650 will not be denied! As you know, a monster in dirt- basically hydroplanes over terrain. I strongly recommend going to Blue lake just west of s Tahoe) The road going in (off of 88 I believe) has the scenery of Yosemite and the topography of luguna seca- 6 miles of riding bliss. The trails on either side of 395 north of Lee Vining and south of Bridgeport are heavenly to ride- soil is like oatmeal, with a good mix of rolling hills etc.
Hello. After putting the kuba link in did you lower the front end or is it fine the way it is? Let me know I'm very curious.
Good stuff, thanks!!! Looking for one right now too.
can you mention in detail the mods? you didnt mention anything about the oil temperature guage
How does that mirror hold up at freeway speeds? Mine fold at anything over 75mph
Total envy. Love your bike and all it's improvements!
So are the dual sport seats uncomfortable like dirt bikes
What did you do in order for both front and rear LED turn signals to operate correctly?
That's a great looking 650l .. really informative video too. I have the XR650R which I love but wish it had the E start and lighting of the L. We don't get the L model in the UK, but I'm sure you could import one. Steve
I was looking at upgrading my xt 225 and I chose an 2001 XR 400 that has been dual sported. It is at least 100 pounds less, way better for off road but it is geared a bit to low for the highwsy. I miss the electric start, but boy does it climb hills offroad.
Hey guys! Grey vid, lots of info! I'm between a 2002 xr650l motor has been already rebuild for $4800, or a 2008 Dr650 with 11000 km for $6000. Which one would you go for?
hi could you please tell me the name of the security system you have one the bike and where i could purchase it???
The best improvement I made to my XR650L was to replace the 45 tooth rear sprocket with a 50 tooth. This makes the gearing almost perfect for street and dirt.
iv owned drz400, dr650, klr650, and yz450f plated. I wanna give the ol XR a try!!
Raymond Johansen , I currently have a DR650 but used to have an XR650L. The DR is definitely smoother in every way; engine, ride, and handling. Keep in mind the XR650L was originally designed as a dedicated dirt bike (derived from the old XR600 dirt only model). The DR650 was designed as a true dual sport and it's very good at that. The Honda I had felt much more like a real dirt bike and felt better off road, but not silky smooth like the Suzuki when on the highway. Can't speak for the KLR because I've never ridden one.
Awesome video thank you so much for sharing
Dual sported xr650r for the win!!!
Is that a Safari tank on it? They have a 25 liter(6.6 gal) version of it.
Ron, cheers for the great insight, im just about to buy either a Xr600R or the XR650L in your opinion what is the best one to go for? its purley for green laning here in the UK so minimum road use..
Jake, the l is the street legal version that came out in 93. The r came out in 2000 and its the dirt only version- aluminum frame, kick start, a little lighter
I already sold the bike. I was thinking about a Honda XLR 650. Which is what brought me to this video.
What the difference between the l and the r models
I sold my XR and bought a Triumph Tiger 800. I'm doing more adventure riding now. I love my Triumph a bunch and it is fast...but...nothing feels as much like a tractor with speed than an XR. I wish I had it back!
wow great video and break down!! thanks
Hey Ron! Just got back here from your ktm review, i though they had about 71horse 6 speed, when I heard that I though maybe I should get one ... Then I saw the price an decided I really like my honda! Lol anyway I was looking at your vid again because I finally bought me a pumper carb. Fcr mx 40mm , all the set ups I've found pertain to sea leval, an I know you were running something similar on your mod video. (Maybe)Haven't been able to come across it again . I'm at 5000 ft an think your probably close to that aren't you? Maybe it was a different video. Been taking something to improve my memory , can't remember what it is right now. Lol but when I'm riding in colo ill wave at ktm 's just in case it's you ! ✊live to ride , ride to live
Like those blinkers and mirrors.
Hi Ron, 9 years later, are you still happy with the jetting? I’m in Colorado too and plan to ride in the front range foothills a lot. Thanks
Thanks for the info, already two weeks ago i buy a 2001 i´m in dominican republic, but i buy like a proyect to restore, the bike is runnig pretty well, but a few things is missing, and you are 100% true in your las comment thanks for share this helpfull Video!
And enjoy the bike!
Nice video Ron: I too own and love a Honda xr650l. Please tell me what Brand is the hours/rpm meter and where you got it.
Thanks
I watch this over and over, great vid!