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Radio free Europe is an American governement news organization. Does anyone that works there, that purports to speak for journalism and human rights, care to explain what the US government meant by these 1944 words? This (US) Government considers talk of Macedonian "nation", Macedonian "Fatherland", or Macedonia "national consciousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece - US Secretary of State Edward Stettinius, Dec 26, 1944 It rationally follows either the US was engaged in attempted genocide of "Macedonians" in 1944.. or the current Americans are engaged in ethnic engineering of "Macedonians" much like the Yugoslav communists did back in 1944. We warned the American government not to flip-flop on this issue. We clearly were right to object. They did abuse the name. Unfortunately vast numbers of people who bizarrely claimed them "ethnic" Macedonians pretend we were wrong.. Please stop blaming Greeks for your unprincipled behavior on this name issue. Take ownership for your own mistakes like others expect us to for Greece's financial mistakes. Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts attesting to their self-determination as Greeks, isn't going anywhere for the narratives of the former Yugoslavian national extremsits suffering an identity crisis of their own making.
@vasilmirmidonski2740Christian Turks aye let me tell u something and get this through ur head The Turks ruled Macedonia and that whole entire Region for 600 hundred years so go get your dna tested u are 100% Türk aswell
Weren't you under the Turks for 500 years? We're a country of 1.8 million people and there is no way you're pushing us around. You had Zaev the crook agree to a name that was illegal. Where were you before 1991? Why weren't you complaing to Yugoslavia that we had the name Macedonia? Because you would have been wiped off the planet .
We aren't ancient macedonians you idiots, we never claimed to be their descendants, we just live on the land that they controlled in their empire (most of it is now in greece in their region Makedonia, but there are also two other parts of the ancient macedonian land, the one is the Vardar part which is the territory of my country and the Pirin territory that is part of Bulgaria), also in 20 century the greek government called us slavo-macedonians or macedonian slavs in the census of 1930 i think so the greek and bulgarian arguments that we exist since 1945/1991 doesn't make any sense.
@@metodijjankulovski918💯 Great to see someone who actually knows historical facts. Sounds like a lot of these Albunians and Bulgarians believe that history is something they can just invent!
Greece will not let it without reply. If North M decides to insist on the name without North, they have to forget the EU perspective. And they have to be ready for other financial measures
She as a President has the constitutional right to say Macedonia and not include "North", it is written in the law. Macedonia has done almost all the requirements in the "Prespa Agreement" Greece on the other hand has done little to no changes that were agreed in the "Prespa Agreement"
@@gocedelcev86 Ancient Macedonians not only spoke Greek, founded the Hellenistic period, but were also self-identifying as Greeks (see Philips participating at ancient, Greek only, Olympiads). The were most certainly not antihellenic former Yugoslavian national extremists suffering an identity crisis of their own making
@@mydogsbutler macedonians and greek where not the same.. Modern Greece is founded in 1830.. It has nothing to do with old makedonija.. Everybody wants something from the history.. The name of the region is makedonija.. If the people want to call it republik makedonija or the province makedonija in Greece.. Let everybody call it how they want, it has nothing to do with ancient makedonija..
No, why do you say that? You have a common DNA with this group of people, so you should not speak about her like that. The difference is they are partially Albanian and Slavic etc.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Greece as the major factor of the Byzantine Empire was the great protector of Christendom a thousand years ago. Then the Turks came and wrecked things. A small Greece has emerged from the hundreds of years of Turkish genocide. It cannot reclaim all of its lost land. It should at least be able to keep others from appropriating historically Greek place names. One of those place names is Macedonia, which is the name of the province of Greece in the Thessaloniki area.
so if the leftist pro EU party had won we would not ask questions? then its not a problem if they would have EU funding your opinion is biased your pro EU
Cope harder. People are absolutely sick of left wing dominated Europe letting in million of immigrants and making Europe pathetically weak, weakness musn't be tolerated *especially* now.
People looking for a fake identity. What connection do Slavic people have with Alexander's Greek Macedonia? None whatsoever. Everything was Greek. Slavs were spread over a vast area from Skopje to Warsaw. Greeks too were spread from Crete to Pella. When Black Sea cities were clearly Greek it's utter nonsense to claim that Vardarians are descendants of Alexander. Even their logo is stolen from Philip's tomb discovered by Manolis Andronikos, clear proof that North Mecedonians are upstarts.
I m Macedonian, and not Slav. What now ? My DNA are J2a, clearly not Slavic. Many ‚‚Greeks‚‚ are mixtures of Hellens, Albanians, Macedonians, Vlachs, Turks and others, and they are talking about clear nation? Idiots.
@@marijanstankovic8036 it seems we always need to come back to US Secretary of State 1945, Edward Stettinius: "This Government considers talk of “Macedonian nation”, “Macedonia Fatherland”, or “Macedonian national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic or political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece".
@@markoscream8466 why "her" how do you know that the Serbian prime minister is a "her", and what happen if the Serbs decide to elect a "him" or a "they" (LOL, for prime minister.
Eu prefer the Macedonia more then Greece. Greece İflations and deep, Number 1 on Eu. Eu tired of This. Why you think England Leave the Eu or Germany dont wanna support Eu Banks anymore
@vasilmirmidonski2740 maybe you should reconsider your real heritage an embrace it. You are either bulgarian or serbian. Mekodenes was and is a greek tribe. Like Spartans, Pontians, Cretes, Vlachs and many more. I know it is not your fault. You people have been brainwashed by the good old Tito. And i know you are just people too. Probably lovely people. But still brainwashed. The slavic people came hundreds of years later to the area. Every archelogical mekedonian found has greek words and letters on it. How come all this makes sense in greek, while these words dont even exist in your language.
@@gocedelcev86 Go4e Del4ev is bulgarian.. at least you gave your self a name of a historic person of your ethnicity. Bravo. Now go get treatment for your Schizophrenia.
Alexander the Great, King of the Macedonians, was born of Greek parents (Philip II and Olympias), in ancient Pella, which belonged to Greece. He was Greek. He had Aristotle as a teacher. He believed in the 12 Gods of Olympus. He spoke and wrote Greek. The same language and writing that we use today in Greece. That's why real MACEDONIA is GREEK and real MACEDONIANS are GREEKS !!!
the name was changed illegally, so too the constitution. She's a law professor, she is well aware of the factors that led to the fiasco orchestrated by America, the EU and Nato structures. Its time for the new government to downsize the overly big american embassy in skopje and curtail the acts of the CIA from this base.
I have no reason to be on this video. I know nothing. I am however a westerner, so I guess I have make some kind of comment as if I understand anything to play on the westerner stereotype. Its so nice to see a female leader!1! Was that good?
Speaking as a Greek... We warned everyone in good faith not to ridiculously engage in ethnic engineering "Athenians"....... I mean "Macedonians". This was based on experience from our civil war when the former Yugoslavians used to mostly still self-identify as ethnic Bulgarian ("Macedonians" in a regional sense not ethnic). You know back when the US State Department's official position was no such ethnic group as Macedonians exists. We were patronizingly ignored. Now you see the results. The antihellenic founders of the Hellenistic period.. which defies basic common sense. Blame Greeks for our botched government finances. We are not to blame for the actions of others. Take ownership for your own mistakes.; Stop blaming and hating Greeks for this situation. Start blaming the former Yuoglsavians and the Greek-hating liars that actively supported ethnic engineering them into "Spartans"... I mean "Macedonians".
@@veracoric2777 Other than some language, culture, dna, education and geography in common with ancient Greeks you are right Genocidal Greek haters like you lost the moral and historical arguments the second you bigotted frauds tried to sweep under the carpet the former Yugoslavians little change of identity from Slavs into ancient Macedonians/.
@@veracoric2777 modern Greece has nothing to do with makedonija.. Using the star of virginia from the 1970's and flag in the 80's..then they say that makedonija is Greece.. The star of macedonia is found everywhere in republic macedonia and the people there are using it for 'thousends of years..
@@gocedelcev86 all ethnic gropis are invented. You invented yours based on where you live. We came in 6th century in a province called macedonia. We live here for centuries and we call ourselves that. I asked my grandmother(who was expelled from northen Greece) what was her Grandfather. She said macedonian. So i would rather belive my family than some TV learned Propaganda.
You cannot steal history. Vardaskans should know that they are of Bulgarian and Albanian origin but they refuse to accept it. Even their ''macedonian'' language is actually just Bulgarian language 🤣🙊🙉🙈 This is Monkeydonia!
As an albanian who doesn't like the new government of macedonian, I think it is good that they don't use the name 'north macedonia' just because Greece said so
@@matthaiosvlachos3526 it is, but macedonia has the right to call themselves macedonia. Macedonians as a people are just bulgarians and albanians and greeks but they have a right to do what they want as they are sovereign
@@homelesspodcast yes but with this logic , we here in Greece should call their country as "Skopje republic "as we used to call it before Prespa agreement ,also someone should be very naive if he thinks that slavs that came 600 years after alexander died have any relation with him and Macedonian empire
Imagine that you are a Slav, that you speak Slavic, that your name is Slavic, that you understand the Bulgarian language because it is the same, and yet you say that you are Macedonian
I think that Albania will join us very soon :) N. Macedonia should understand that Yugoslavia doesn’t exist anymore and that behavior is unacceptable in the EU. Fortunately Croatia and Slovenia moved on and learn their lesson
Of course. Because it was a land that 3000 years ago was Greek and now it is inhabited by Slav people that got brain-washed into thinking that even the word "Μακεδονία" is Slavic, AKA "Macedonian".
@@KlaviersAnthologybut Greeks 3000yrs ago didn't consider Macedonians their equals. With that said, yes, modern Macedonians have been brainwashed into believing, or at least pretending to do so into unrealistic things. But, nobody can deny them their names, there are examples across Europe of modern nations carrying the names of some long gone peoples.
@@DamianP-n7b well, interesting point of view there but do hear this: back then, there might be some people in high positions (in Athens) that didn't want anything to do with Macedonians but that was out of fear of conquer and not because they shared different languages etc etc. the language overall had the same "greek" basis and later the Macedonian-Greek was a very well spoken dialect. Let's speed up to some years ago: Slavic people took over the area, as well as Turks etc, BUT they did not consider choosing to maintain THEIR roots, no, they chose to "steal" part of the identity of people that were already settled so that they blend in until some high officials decided that it was even better to change things up a bit so that the language that was NOW spoken more, which was slavic with some greek here and there, was to be considered the "Macedonian" language which of course is proven wrong as the Macedonian Greek dialect has nothing to do with slavic roots. It's all about politics my friend, they don't care about history, they don't care about you or me, they don't care about legacy, language, arts, they care about land, so they persuade the people into belonging somewhere by creating a false identity, not minding the implications it might have, so that they make those people fanatics to spread their policy and gain more $$$ in the end of the day.
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This reminds me of Man City in the premier league. All the banners look new , nobody knows what they are really chanting and it’s only them that believe the story behind their success
It doesn't matter who you are and where are you from, what matters is if you know history or not! Show respect to the dead and stop using that name! Show your humanity! Imbeciles!
Greeks when they find out that merely speaking a language doesn’t make you Greek 🤯, that the ancient Macedonians spoke their own language which was not comprehensible to Greeks 🤯 that Ancient Greek city states viewed the Macedonians as northern barbarians 🤯 that the Ancient Greek peoples under Alexander’s subjugation organised multiple revolts against his empire 🤯 that foreign ethnic groups can speak your language and even appreciate your culture for reasons that do not make them Greek 🤯 that Sts Cyril and Methodius, two Macedonians from Salonica were responsible for the pioneering of the Slavic language that had then largely been spoken by the inhabitants of Macedonia before the first Bulgarian Kingdom was ever even established 🤯 that the Bulgars only adopted the Slavonic language after it was already spoken in Macedonia and pioneered by two Macedonians 🤯 that an ethnic group’s language and cultural expression evolves overtime 🤯 that it evolved based on cross cultural assimilations and the prevailing power structures over centuries 🤯 that an evolution in culture and language doesn’t just erase your ethnic identity as a Macedonian 🤯 that multiple ancient sources consistently refer to the Macedonians as … Macedonians as opposed to other peoples they referred to as Greeks 🤯 that Greeks did not view the Macedonians in the vast region of Macedonia (which encompasses parts of modern day Greece, Macedonia and Bulgaria) as Greeks in the 19th century 🤯 that Greek nationalists persecuted the people by banning the Macedonian language, renaming the cities, and renaming the actual people to Hellenise the region 🤯
when the ancient macedonians existed in the northern balkan peninsula slavs dident not exist there until the middle ages..Its well documented by Geologist historians. But if your desperate to call yourselves Macedonians then that's totally up to you on behalf you keep to the prespa agreement..
Both slavic Macedonian and Bulgarian are part of the South Slavic branch of the Indo-European language family and are both linguistically related to each other..
@@Peterkonto LOOOL. Bro is it seriously your argument that the Macedonians who lived in Macedonia centuries after Alexander just up and vanished the moment Slavic tribes settled in the Balkan Peninsula and that there is no sign of Macedonian ancestry in the people who inhabited Macedonia after this time period? 😂😂😂 bro language evolves over time. The Phoenicians now speak Arabic, so do the Copts. The Gauls now speak a Romance language as opposed to a Germanic one.
@@michaelkiprovski3001 But it's fundamentally accurate that the ancient ancient Macedonians did not speak a slavic language.,Infact its laughable to even suggest it..The British museum that holds hellenistic artifacts from the ancient Macedonians all scripts and writings are written in the Greek alphabet and in Greek, Neither in slavic or Cyrillic 🦍
@@Peterkonto You people still don’t get it. The historical literature clearly describes them as a distinct agglomeration of tribes to the North of the Greek city states who were perceived by Greeks as barbarians, and unenlightened peasants. They conquered Greece, and enslaved them. The ancient chroniclers clearly show a distinction between the two peoples despite Alexander and other members of the Macedonian royal court being great champions of Hellenic culture. At this point in history, Greeks had the highest civilisation. They were pioneers in the natural sciences, philosophy, art, politics, literature and even athletics. Their language was already being spoken by aristocrats and nobles in many of the territories that Alexander had conquered. Their literary and philosophical masterpieces were being studied & appreciated by Greeks and non Greeks alike. Their pagan gods were worshiped by Romans, Copts, & other tribes throughout the Mediterranean basin. An appreciation of one’s culture, or even adoption of one’s language in an administrative context, does not necessitate belonging to or being part of one’s tribe. Greeks had a very clear perception of who was and wasn’t part of their ethnos. Macedonians (all of them not just a royal bloodline) were clearly not. This clear distinction between the two peoples was carried forth by the Romans who conquered them. The administrative regions of Greece and Macedonia existed as such because they reflected two different cultural, political, & linguistic realities. “BUt tHEy wErenT sLAvs BRo”. Yea we know and no one is claiming they are. Over time, Macedonians had evolved. Slavic migrations into the Balkan Peninsula & their eventual assimilation into the Macedonian ethnos led to a gradual abandonment of Koine Greek by the natives. Slavic dialects had begun to dominate rural and urban centres. These people who eventually began speaking slavic dialects were not some brand new population who magically appeared out of the sky from Poland. They were Macedonian natives who just ended up speaking a different language. This has literally happened to every single group of people today. Phoenicians (modern day Lebanese) speak Arabic, Copts speak Arabic, the French speak a Romance language as opposed to a Germanic one that their ancestors once spoke. This whole idea that Macedonians today can claim no ties to the historical and cultural heritage of their forefathers because they now speak a Slavic language - you know … the literal people who come from and live on that land and can trace ties back to that land spanning centuries, but some random guy from Crete or Athens who’s people had absolutely nothing to do with the Macedonians, hated the Macedonians, speak a language that has nothing to do with the language of the ancient Macedonians, and never historically identified with the Macedonian marker can …. Is just laughable and a clear sign of pure Greek propaganda.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 first of all is pumpkin not pamkin .So you have to go to school all over from the beginning.Amf the second reason you must go to school is to learn that when the Greeks lived in ancient Macedonia,slavian races were not existed yet....
@@matthaiosvlachos3526 He is a North Macedonian troll who impersonates the profile "mydogsbutler". His job is to steal other people's profiles and write lies.
Stupid are ethnic engineering liars that ridiculously claimed them "Macedonians'. They are about as "Macedonian" as they are Athenians or Spartans... Zero.
This is the correct direction, you would think once the name was changed and entry to NATO was confirmed but yet no NATO membership so the prespa agreement is void. Also it was a sham of an agreement where a quarem was not met, more then 50% of the population did not vote so there are many issues this president brings a bright light to the Macedonia people .
Ok, Albanians aside, but why are orthodox Slavs so freakin' keen on telling their neighbours that they are not what they feel they are, instead "we" know better. Get the h@ell over it and start cooperating and developing you pitiful nationalistic s@hitholes.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 You can't be serious. First, this is not your email but a UA-cam profile. Second, you were warned about it because you don't know what you're doing and you attack MACEDONIAN PROFILES in your comments, if they can even be called that.
@@Dinosaur315 There is no minority, I live here nobody knows about any vulgars. But theres a lot of Makedonians 🇲🇰 in Bulgaristan🇧🇬 mostly in the part called Pirin Macedonia that you took 1913 🤫
Moldova does not claim to be an ancient empire and does not say that Vlad the Impaler was a Moldovan king. Also, many Moldovians speak Romanian and consider themselves to be Romanians.
@@Georgi.Delchev.Rebornthat’s not true. Macedonia is not north Macedonia,it’s Macedonia. The name will be changed. Glory to her,down with Bulgarians,Serbs,Albanians and Greeks
That is the furthest thing from the truth she is right wing. Joe Biden is left-wing. If anything, she is more like Trump with her nationalistic ideologies and policies. I suggest you do some research and learn something
Why are you guys so loud all the time ? and always feel like you need to defend your selfs 24/7 , Greece will need no more than 35-45 minutes to take over all your land , I think a better strategic move would be to stay quiet. Kisses from Athens !
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD Personally I think in this specific scenario they won't respond for multiple reasons. 1) It might cause a domino effect (Middle East). 2) Their economy will collapse which will lower their GDP per capita which now stands at (10,000$). 3) in case we decide to remove you from nato for breaking the prespa agreement which your county has signed , and then turkey decides to attack us they violate agreements and will get strong sanctions. Personally I don't support war and conflict on any form but that doesn't mean that your small leaders can say whatever they want.
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD Personally I believe there will be no respond and I’ll explain to you why. 1) It will cause a domino effect on Middle East. 2) Their GDP per capita is already very low (10.000$) and they can’t easily fund a massive war because their economy will struggle. So they have no benefit. 3) If we decide to kick you out of nato, they will also get big sanctions. I don’t support wars in any form but that doesn’t mean that your small leaders can say whatever they want and lets not forget that your country signed the prespa agreement.
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD Turkey who? I'm not supporting any take over on Skopje from Greece but... You really need to visit another country outside of your cage and learn history brother... I'm sorry for you...
@@tatjanavelkova5814 fly to the clouds! if you don't believe the Greeks, you can study, from a third source and find out, that only..... you are not Macedonian! the whole world says it except you! you are unique! the only people in the world, who doesn't know who they are, speaks Bulgarian dialect and was non-existent, historically and politically, until 1945! of course you didn't even have an alphabet
Former Yugoslavians are woke on steroids. I Identify as a Slav... I identify as a Serb... I identify as a Bulgarian... I identify as a Macedonian. Tomorrow, I identify as a Spartan. I Identify as an Athenian. I identify as a Martian I identify as a tomato. Stop oppressing me. Feel sorry for me as I try to rob Greeks of their history and identity while promoting irredentism. Boo hoo for me.
@@IEthereaI Clown 🤡 Bulgarians Are Indoiranian Scytian people Kid !Lern World history no Tito Yugo history 😉You Real Tatarian Mongols haves Tatar mosks Sinan Pasha and city Tatar Pazar 😉cry little Tatatomongolian baby 👶
@@VerginhoGT Don't bother replying him. He is a North Macedonian troll who is using dozens of profiles. These are his profiles - HeroManNickI32, Tatarsbuster, nikoivanovBG, NikosJanakis, thetatarsarewhattheyseemmo7705, thetatar3966, nasasendthetatarsintospace185. They are all created in 2020, 2021 and 2022. His job is to write insults in Bulgarian and Greek language or lies that Bulgaria and Greece support the Macedonian cause and are Macedonian provinces.
@@mydogsbutler That's one of his alts. Another alt stole my name and he used to be 1132 and now he is I32. Also he changed Gotse.Delchev.Reborn to S with Z even though he thinks I'm that guy above. My last name is not Ivanov, despite there is a coincidence that we may have the same name.
@@HeroManNick132 The very fact he consciously lies like this shows the degree of fanaticism the former Yugoslavians have. One mistake both Bulgarian and Greek governments have made is not working together on this issue. Both countries should be supporting each others mutual positions in the dispute. You can call one guy crazy but when others start saying the same thing, the ones calling you crazy are exposed as the crazy ones.
That one made me laught Most of them are descendants of people that used to self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians "Macedonians" (in the regional not ethnic sense) .
@@mydogsbutler you are so funny, you are complaining about a name while cities like saloniki and Athene are flooded with junkies and homeless people.. Also the country Greece what nothing has to do with makedonija is indepted for generations to the EU.. Maybe for ever.. The republic of makedonija can say no to the EU.. MAKEDONIJA WILL BE ALWAYS MAKEDONIJA
@@gocedelcev86 Your country isnt' even Alexander;s home;and you dluded fool. You fanatics have even confused modern place names with ancient. During the time of Alexander Skopje was the homeland of the ancient Paeonians.
@@gocedelcev86 "MAKEDONIJA WILL BE ALWAYS MAKEDONIJA" If you want to violate the agreement, no problem champ. I never supported it because I knew fanatics like you would ignore. No EU. Request for ejection from NATO. block borders with Skopje. Work with Serbs, Bulgarians and Albanian to expose the lying and ultra nationalism going on in Skopje to the entire world. .
Get back under your mothers wings of Serbia 🇷🇸🇲🇰 Same dna, same history, same people. Together we can achieve many things. You know that only with your Serbian people you always have been free and happy. Everyone else will try to conquer or destroy you.
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sy *No we are Macedonians.* 🇲🇰 Bulgaris have turkic language not Slavonic. You guys have khans Asparukh, Kuber, Kubrat, Krum, Omurtag 🇲🇳🇧🇬 We have King Marko, King Samoil, King Filip, King Aleksandar Great, Saints Kiril and Metodij, Saints Kliment and Naum Ohridski everything best 👌 👍 😍
This piece of land (it is not a country) should be called "north OF Macedonia" not North Macedonia. They are slavs, Bulgarians, turks, albanians and gypsies. Another good name that probably fits them is Republic of Monkeydonia.
@@IEthereaI In your second largest city Kumanovo (named after the Central Asian Turkic tribe Kumans) we can see the largest mosque in North Macedonia - Tatar Sinan 👍🕌🇲🇰🇦🇱🇹🇷
"Ευχαριστώ τοις Θεοίς ότι εγεννήθην Έλλην" (I thank the gods for being born Greek) - Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander. Based on the book of Ptolemeus I Soter, Alexander’s friend
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Radio free Europe is an American governement news organization. Does anyone that works there, that purports to speak for journalism and human rights, care to explain what the US government meant by these 1944 words?
This (US) Government considers talk of Macedonian "nation", Macedonian "Fatherland", or Macedonia "national consciousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece
- US Secretary of State Edward Stettinius, Dec 26, 1944
It rationally follows either the US was engaged in attempted genocide of "Macedonians" in 1944.. or the current Americans are engaged in ethnic engineering of "Macedonians" much like the Yugoslav communists did back in 1944. We warned the American government not to flip-flop on this issue. We clearly were right to object. They did abuse the name. Unfortunately vast numbers of people who bizarrely claimed them "ethnic" Macedonians pretend we were wrong..
Please stop blaming Greeks for your unprincipled behavior on this name issue. Take ownership for your own mistakes like others expect us to for Greece's financial mistakes. Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts attesting to their self-determination as Greeks, isn't going anywhere for the narratives of the former Yugoslavian national extremsits suffering an identity crisis of their own making.
STOP WITH FAKE NEWS! - Macedonian president Siljanovska-Davkova won't use the illegal adjective "North", but only the lawfully correct name MACEDONIA!
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD No problem. No EU for you. Kicked out of NATO. blocade. removal of recognition. Call yourselves Potatoes if you like.
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD No problem. No EU. Booted from NATO. Blocade. Removal of state recognition.
The president of North Macedonia is speaking Bulgarian! This is great!
@vasilmirmidonski2740 ...says a Bulgarian Turk that calls himself Macedonian
@vasilmirmidonski2740 Turks are all Muslims, you are misinformed.
@@perikliszekakis3411 So Gagauz people too?
@vasilmirmidonski2740Christian Turks aye let me tell u something and get this through ur head The Turks ruled Macedonia and that whole entire Region for 600 hundred years so go get your dna tested u are 100% Türk aswell
You will be speaking Russian in a short time!
They think they are the ancient Macedonians 😂😂😂 but they are bulgarians and Albanians
That’s correct dude but they are pitiful and not worth our time
Weren't you under the Turks for 500 years?
We're a country of 1.8 million people and there is no way you're pushing us around.
You had Zaev the crook agree to a name that was illegal.
Where were you before 1991?
Why weren't you complaing to Yugoslavia that we had the name Macedonia?
Because you would have been wiped off the planet .
you can enjoy your dinner with Macedonians, and not with bulgarians and shiptars(albanians)
We aren't ancient macedonians you idiots, we never claimed to be their descendants, we just live on the land that they controlled in their empire (most of it is now in greece in their region Makedonia, but there are also two other parts of the ancient macedonian land, the one is the Vardar part which is the territory of my country and the Pirin territory that is part of Bulgaria), also in 20 century the greek government called us slavo-macedonians or macedonian slavs in the census of 1930 i think so the greek and bulgarian arguments that we exist since 1945/1991 doesn't make any sense.
@@metodijjankulovski918💯 Great to see someone who actually knows historical facts. Sounds like a lot of these Albunians and Bulgarians believe that history is something they can just invent!
Could it lead to new tensions with Greece now that the new leader decided to leave the 'North' out of North Macedonia?
So they should.
Greece will not let it without reply. If North M decides to insist on the name without North, they have to forget the EU perspective. And they have to be ready for other financial measures
@@PorfirioRubirosa22 This is about to get awkward
Bye bye E.U. for Fyrom if she does
She as a President has the constitutional right to say Macedonia and not include "North", it is written in the law. Macedonia has done almost all the requirements in the "Prespa Agreement" Greece on the other hand has done little to no changes that were agreed in the "Prespa Agreement"
Everyone knows they are not hellenics
True, same as modern day Belgians don't have much to do with ancient Belgi tribe, modern day ltalians with ancient ltalic tribes etc.
@@DamianP-n7b of course real Italians are direct descendants of the Roman Latins
Macedonians where never hellenic.. Hehehe
@@gocedelcev86 Ancient Macedonians not only spoke Greek, founded the Hellenistic period, but were also self-identifying as Greeks (see Philips participating at ancient, Greek only, Olympiads).
The were most certainly not antihellenic former Yugoslavian national extremists suffering an identity crisis of their own making
@@mydogsbutler macedonians and greek where not the same.. Modern Greece is founded in 1830.. It has nothing to do with old makedonija.. Everybody wants something from the history.. The name of the region is makedonija.. If the people want to call it republik makedonija or the province makedonija in Greece.. Let everybody call it how they want, it has nothing to do with ancient makedonija..
She’s absolutely terrible
To an Albanian it is
No, why do you say that? You have a common DNA with this group of people, so you should not speak about her like that. The difference is they are partially Albanian and Slavic etc.
@@mcdplayer5794that is why nearly most of the population of Macedonia is Albanian
Ethnicity isn't a shield for poor character @@aetherion7
IN MAKEDONIJA ---- MACEDONIANS.
MACEDONIA is GREECE and MACEDONIANS are GREEKS
And Greece is Turkish!
The name Macedonia historically belonged to the Greek people.
@@tonidon7875 In your dreams
@@johnsakelaris7..........
MAKEDONIJA BELONG TO MACEDONIANS ! ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Greece as the major factor of the Byzantine Empire was the great protector of Christendom a thousand years ago. Then the Turks came and wrecked things. A small Greece has emerged from the hundreds of years of Turkish genocide. It cannot reclaim all of its lost land. It should at least be able to keep others from appropriating historically Greek place names. One of those place names is Macedonia, which is the name of the province of Greece in the Thessaloniki area.
A string of right wings is getting control. A lot of money is pumped into their campaigns.
Putin?
so if the leftist pro EU party had won we would not ask questions?
then its not a problem if they would have EU funding
your opinion is biased your pro EU
Cope harder. People are absolutely sick of left wing dominated Europe letting in million of immigrants and making Europe pathetically weak, weakness musn't be tolerated *especially* now.
A lot of rubels.
What wtf are you going on about, where are you from what do you even know..
People looking for a fake identity. What connection do Slavic people have with Alexander's Greek Macedonia? None whatsoever. Everything was Greek. Slavs were spread over a vast area from Skopje to Warsaw. Greeks too were spread from Crete to Pella. When Black Sea cities were clearly Greek it's utter nonsense to claim that Vardarians are descendants of Alexander. Even their logo is stolen from Philip's tomb discovered by Manolis Andronikos, clear proof that North Mecedonians are upstarts.
I m Macedonian, and not Slav. What now ? My DNA are J2a, clearly not Slavic. Many ‚‚Greeks‚‚ are mixtures of Hellens, Albanians, Macedonians, Vlachs, Turks and others, and they are talking about clear nation? Idiots.
ALEXANDER THE GREAT IS MACEDONIAN ! ! !
before 25 centuries ALEXANDER TSAR ON MAKEDONIJA .
Proud to be Slavic. Superior race, people, and culture.
@@marijanstankovic8036 it seems we always need to come back to US Secretary of State 1945, Edward Stettinius: "This Government considers talk of “Macedonian nation”, “Macedonia Fatherland”, or “Macedonian national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic or political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece".
@@raymond7880 ALEXANDER and FILIP --- MACEDONIANS.
before 25 centuries FILIP KING, ALEXANDER TSAR ON MAKEDONIJA ! ! !
These people are so deluded 😅
Poor Slavs!!!
@@andrelockridge9109...... poor fool @ .
@@tatjanavelkova5814 poor 👨🏿🇲🇰
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Slavs don’t exist
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sybalkans = africa
A win for Serbia and Russia!
It is only a win for Serbia if her government derecognizes "Kosovo"
You are slavs nothing else😂😂😂
@@markoscream8466 why "her" how do you know that the Serbian prime minister is a "her", and what happen if the Serbs decide to elect a "him" or a "they" (LOL, for prime minister.
RESPEKT ZA GORDANA SILJANOVSKA PRETSEDATELKA NA MAKEDONIJA ! ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814 MACEDONIA BELONG TO GREECE
Forget EU
Fu..k EU.
Eu prefer the Macedonia more then Greece. Greece İflations and deep, Number 1 on Eu. Eu tired of This. Why you think England Leave the Eu or Germany dont wanna support Eu Banks anymore
@@citizenofsuperpowerindia4453 Houston we have a problem. Martian approaching.
Wannabe Makedonians
@vasilmirmidonski2740 maybe you should reconsider your real heritage an embrace it. You are either bulgarian or serbian. Mekodenes was and is a greek tribe. Like Spartans, Pontians, Cretes, Vlachs and many more.
I know it is not your fault. You people have been brainwashed by the good old Tito.
And i know you are just people too. Probably lovely people. But still brainwashed. The slavic people came hundreds of years later to the area. Every archelogical mekedonian found has greek words and letters on it. How come all this makes sense in greek, while these words dont even exist in your language.
@vasilmirmidonski2740 no you should learn some history first.
That's what u do when you are out of arguments? Pittyful rootless individual.
That's the Greeks. The Macedonians know who they are.
@@kunglao4447Makedonija is makedonija and it will be forever makedonija.. Go find a life that should be good for you.
@@gocedelcev86 Go4e Del4ev is bulgarian.. at least you gave your self a name of a historic person of your ethnicity. Bravo. Now go get treatment for your Schizophrenia.
Alexander the Great, King of the Macedonians, was born of Greek parents (Philip II and Olympias), in ancient Pella, which belonged to Greece. He was Greek. He had Aristotle as a teacher. He believed in the 12 Gods of Olympus. He spoke and wrote Greek. The same language and writing that we use today in Greece. That's why real MACEDONIA is GREEK and real MACEDONIANS are GREEKS !!!
before 25 centuries PELLA ----- MACEDONIAN LAND.
ALEXANDER THE GREAT is born in MAKEDONIJA ! ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814MACEDONIAN NEVER SPOKE SLAVS 😂😂😂
MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES speak Macedonian language ! ! ! ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814 A visit to the royal palaces of Vergina will convince you and all Skopians
@@tatjanavelkova5814 in your dreams and only …REAL MACEDONIA IS GREEK 🇬🇷
the name was changed illegally, so too the constitution. She's a law professor, she is well aware of the factors that led to the fiasco orchestrated by America, the EU and Nato structures. Its time for the new government to downsize the overly big american embassy in skopje and curtail the acts of the CIA from this base.
You are right. There should have never been recognized with any Macedonia in the name. 100 percent fake ethnic group. Fake country.
A president who work for her people and for the interest of her country not foreigner.
Yes, be proud of your Slavic heritage!!!
MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES ARE MACEDONIANS ! ! ! ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814 you are Slav 🤷♂️
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sy....... jedi c'varke.
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sy I TATJANA AM MACEDONIAN.
jedi c'varke.
I have no reason to be on this video. I know nothing. I am however a westerner, so I guess I have make some kind of comment as if I understand anything to play on the westerner stereotype.
Its so nice to see a female leader!1!
Was that good?
Speaking as a Greek...
We warned everyone in good faith not to ridiculously engage in ethnic engineering "Athenians"....... I mean "Macedonians". This was based on experience from our civil war when the former Yugoslavians used to mostly still self-identify as ethnic Bulgarian ("Macedonians" in a regional sense not ethnic). You know back when the US State Department's official position was no such ethnic group as Macedonians exists.
We were patronizingly ignored. Now you see the results. The antihellenic founders of the Hellenistic period.. which defies basic common sense.
Blame Greeks for our botched government finances. We are not to blame for the actions of others. Take ownership for your own mistakes.; Stop blaming and hating Greeks for this situation. Start blaming the former Yuoglsavians and the Greek-hating liars that actively supported ethnic engineering them into "Spartans"... I mean "Macedonians".
Greek dont exist tooo like ethnos invented by British Romance
@@veracoric2777
Other than some language, culture, dna, education and geography in common with ancient Greeks you are right
Genocidal Greek haters like you lost the moral and historical arguments the second you bigotted frauds tried to sweep under the carpet the former Yugoslavians little change of identity from Slavs into ancient Macedonians/.
@@veracoric2777
Sure buddy. I don't exist. What is your ethnic background? Can you answer without lying?
@@veracoric2777 modern Greece has nothing to do with makedonija.. Using the star of virginia from the 1970's and flag in the 80's..then they say that makedonija is Greece.. The star of macedonia is found everywhere in republic macedonia and the people there are using it for 'thousends of years..
@@gocedelcev86 all ethnic gropis are invented. You invented yours based on where you live. We came in 6th century in a province called macedonia. We live here for centuries and we call ourselves that. I asked my grandmother(who was expelled from northen Greece) what was her Grandfather. She said macedonian. So i would rather belive my family than some TV learned Propaganda.
Hahaha small Macedonia thinks that they are the strongest 😂. They are literally surrounded by enemies.
Serbia is friend.
😡She should mentally grow up!
They have been conditioned by Mareshal Tito that they are the "real" Macedon... they do not realize they speak Bulgarian.
MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES speak Macedonian language ! ! ! ! !
@@HK-pp9ig Shut up, ancient homosexual.
They make a lot of noise for such a small nation. They are all deluded, crazy
So you think that you are big?!
@@marijanstankovic8036 No, but there are more important things to worry about than a name. Move on. You are all mixed race anyway
BASED!
Се чини дека Грците се лутат во коментарите.
Nah no angry just VETO and west Bulgarian is your real name
MAKEDONIJA 25 VEKA e vo JUZ'NA EVROPA ! ! ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814 sorry but you are Vardarska we don’t recognise you 🤷♂️🤫
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sy...... srb glupak .
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sy you in..... Nis'ava.
You mean East Albania. Give it the correct name
Пуши го, козојебац.
M A K E D O N I J A 25 CENTURIES IN SOUTH EVROPA ! ! !
A very courage woman with lot of intelegent and rich knowing of low
What about the namesale region of Greece?
M A K E D O N I J A HAVE NAME 30 CENTURIES ! ! !
Greece should Return the lands back to Macedonia.
NASA presedalka e vo pravo I Južna Makedonija e naša to se se isti MAKEDONCI. President GORDANA IS corect we Are all one MACEDONIAN PEOPLE.
She's inspiring a lot of poets right now - Slovakian style.
Ha, ha, ha...Dark sense of humour...
Пуши го.
what's the song at 0:30 called
anthem vmro
it's campaign music, makedonija povtorno tvoja
@@dacho707 thank you
@@tonkusshomgus4290The anthem of VMRO is Rise the Freedom Dawn - Izgrej Zora na Svobodata. Old Bulgarian song.
@@ПламенБотев-р2е IN MAKEDONIJA --- MACEDONIAN SONGS.
dance rok en roll .
Македонија вечна. 🦁☀️🍀
in 5 minutes we can take all your land , shut up
Е колку да е вечна от 1991 - 2030 RIP
MAKEDONIJA 25 VEKA od KRAL FILIP ! ! !
More stealing history?
Exacly
Yeah we are going to steal it all!!
You cannot steal history. Vardaskans should know that they are of Bulgarian and Albanian origin but they refuse to accept it. Even their ''macedonian'' language is actually just Bulgarian language 🤣🙊🙉🙈 This is Monkeydonia!
IN MAKEDONIJA PEOPLE speak Macedonian language ! ! ! ! !
Fake country created by Communist Tito. Stole Greek name, history
As an albanian who doesn't like the new government of macedonian, I think it is good that they don't use the name 'north macedonia' just because Greece said so
If they dont like to respect the treaties , we also dont like to accept them in EU
@@matthaiosvlachos3526 you are correct, but they shouldn't join the EU and Greece should leave as well
@@homelesspodcast yeah thats a complex.and long discussion
@@matthaiosvlachos3526 it is, but macedonia has the right to call themselves macedonia. Macedonians as a people are just bulgarians and albanians and greeks but they have a right to do what they want as they are sovereign
@@homelesspodcast yes but with this logic , we here in Greece should call their country as "Skopje republic "as we used to call it before Prespa agreement ,also someone should be very naive if he thinks that slavs that came 600 years after alexander died have any relation with him and Macedonian empire
She speaks Bulgarian really well!
GORDANA SILJANOVSKA speak Macedonian language ! ! ! !
Well they should forget E.U.
2018 na REFERENDUM GRAGJANI od MAKEDONIJA rekoa ne EU.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 i dont speak slavic
@@Panagos08 I TATJANA SPEAK MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE ! !
Yes they should forget EU I HATE IT SO MUCH NC THE EU HAS THE WORST LAWS AND REGULATIONS TO EXSIT
Imagine that you are a Slav, that you speak Slavic, that your name is Slavic, that you understand the Bulgarian language because it is the same, and yet you say that you are Macedonian
Ikr, it's freaking crazy!
@@Dinosaur315 I Tatjana speak Macedonian language.
eat green.
Just call it Macedonia without the North or South
No
Macedonia is already in Greece. Removing the "North" from "Macedonia" for your country would cause confusion again.
@@Dinosaur315 MAKEDONIJA IS MAKEDONIJA ! ! !
.......@.
Macedonia should join Brics..🙏
Where is Macedonia on the map?
It borders above Greece, the round one
@@benjaminaraya8073No, Macedonia is IN Greece
The traditional Macedonia is a province of Greece.
In Greece. This lady is from the country that is west of Bulgaria.
na istok od MAKEDONIJA E PIRINSKA MAKEDONIJA.
na jug od MAKEDONIJA ---- EGEJSKA MAKEDONIJA .
I think that Albania will join us very soon :) N. Macedonia should understand that Yugoslavia doesn’t exist anymore and that behavior is unacceptable in the EU. Fortunately Croatia and Slovenia moved on and learn their lesson
To many people are
pathetic complaining about history..
Makedonija will be forever makedonija..
It was officially named Vardar Banovina before Yugoslav communists renamed it, and its mostly Bulgarian people, into Macedonians.
@@mydogsbutler macedonians are macedonians..
@@gocedelcev86Off-course
MACEDONIA 🇲🇰 ❤
@@mydogsbutlerreport the profile above impersonating you. This guy wants to be in jail, let him be.
@@KlaviersAnthologyBlocked and reported
Thats ok Aunt Esther.
These people live in a totally different world and mindset from the rest. North Macedonia is like the North Korea of the Balkans.
Greece and Bulgaria are the fascists of the Balkans. Creating genocide over a group of people.
Macedonia❤ 🇲🇰🇲🇰
Makedonija nikad nije niti bila sjeverna niti dio Grčko Grkljanske zbrčke.Zaboravite EU i okrenite im leđa -BRICS JE BOLJI
Of course. Because it was a land that 3000 years ago was Greek and now it is inhabited by Slav people that got brain-washed into thinking that even the word "Μακεδονία" is Slavic, AKA "Macedonian".
@@KlaviersAnthologybut Greeks 3000yrs ago didn't consider Macedonians their equals. With that said, yes, modern Macedonians have been brainwashed into believing, or at least pretending to do so into unrealistic things. But, nobody can deny them their names, there are examples across Europe of modern nations carrying the names of some long gone peoples.
@@DamianP-n7b well, interesting point of view there but do hear this: back then, there might be some people in high positions (in Athens) that didn't want anything to do with Macedonians but that was out of fear of conquer and not because they shared different languages etc etc. the language overall had the same "greek" basis and later the Macedonian-Greek was a very well spoken dialect. Let's speed up to some years ago: Slavic people took over the area, as well as Turks etc, BUT they did not consider choosing to maintain THEIR roots, no, they chose to "steal" part of the identity of people that were already settled so that they blend in until some high officials decided that it was even better to change things up a bit so that the language that was NOW spoken more, which was slavic with some greek here and there, was to be considered the "Macedonian" language which of course is proven wrong as the Macedonian Greek dialect has nothing to do with slavic roots. It's all about politics my friend, they don't care about history, they don't care about you or me, they don't care about legacy, language, arts, they care about land, so they persuade the people into belonging somewhere by creating a false identity, not minding the implications it might have, so that they make those people fanatics to spread their policy and gain more $$$ in the end of the day.
Πραγματικά πιστεύεις ότι οι BRICS θέλουν να έχουν ένα κράτος μπουρδέλο όπως είναι το δικό σας;😂😂😂😂😂 Προκαλείτε απλά γέλιο σε όποιον έχει θεμελιώδη γνώση ιστορίας
Im part of a BRICS country and I'm telling you that it's terrible.
Based,finally we will get our name back,Macedonia. Сила од Македонииjи
You mean you're gonna steal it again from us
@@Dinosaur315 you 1 ..... us ??
This reminds me of Man City in the premier league. All the banners look new , nobody knows what they are really chanting and it’s only them that believe the story behind their success
i am Colombian and for US is just MACEDONIA, And i been there 2 weeks ago, and i loved.. greetings :) fuerza Macedonia♥
love you
It doesn't matter who you are and where are you from, what matters is if you know history or not! Show respect to the dead and stop using that name! Show your humanity! Imbeciles!
Yes, you're from a third-rate country and your ignorance is not surprising.
*Thanks my friend. Greetings to you and Colombia 🇨🇴 from Macedonia* 🇲🇰
@@MichaelMakedonyou are Slav …nothing to do with originals Macedonians 🇬🇷😘
Greeks when they find out that merely speaking a language doesn’t make you Greek 🤯, that the ancient Macedonians spoke their own language which was not comprehensible to Greeks 🤯 that Ancient Greek city states viewed the Macedonians as northern barbarians 🤯 that the Ancient Greek peoples under Alexander’s subjugation organised multiple revolts against his empire 🤯 that foreign ethnic groups can speak your language and even appreciate your culture for reasons that do not make them Greek 🤯 that Sts Cyril and Methodius, two Macedonians from Salonica were responsible for the pioneering of the Slavic language that had then largely been spoken by the inhabitants of Macedonia before the first Bulgarian Kingdom was ever even established 🤯 that the Bulgars only adopted the Slavonic language after it was already spoken in Macedonia and pioneered by two Macedonians 🤯 that an ethnic group’s language and cultural expression evolves overtime 🤯 that it evolved based on cross cultural assimilations and the prevailing power structures over centuries 🤯 that an evolution in culture and language doesn’t just erase your ethnic identity as a Macedonian 🤯 that multiple ancient sources consistently refer to the Macedonians as … Macedonians as opposed to other peoples they referred to as Greeks 🤯 that Greeks did not view the Macedonians in the vast region of Macedonia (which encompasses parts of modern day Greece, Macedonia and Bulgaria) as Greeks in the 19th century 🤯 that Greek nationalists persecuted the people by banning the Macedonian language, renaming the cities, and renaming the actual people to Hellenise the region 🤯
when the ancient macedonians existed in the northern balkan peninsula slavs dident not exist there until the middle ages..Its well documented by Geologist historians. But if your desperate to call yourselves Macedonians then that's totally up to you on behalf you keep to the prespa agreement..
Both slavic Macedonian and Bulgarian are part of the South Slavic branch of the Indo-European language family and are both linguistically related to each other..
@@Peterkonto LOOOL. Bro is it seriously your argument that the Macedonians who lived in Macedonia centuries after Alexander just up and vanished the moment Slavic tribes settled in the Balkan Peninsula and that there is no sign of Macedonian ancestry in the people who inhabited Macedonia after this time period? 😂😂😂 bro language evolves over time. The Phoenicians now speak Arabic, so do the Copts. The Gauls now speak a Romance language as opposed to a Germanic one.
@@michaelkiprovski3001 But it's fundamentally accurate that the ancient ancient Macedonians did not speak a slavic language.,Infact its laughable to even suggest it..The British museum that holds hellenistic artifacts from the ancient Macedonians all scripts and writings are written in the Greek alphabet and in Greek, Neither in slavic or Cyrillic 🦍
@@Peterkonto You people still don’t get it. The historical literature clearly describes them as a distinct agglomeration of tribes to the North of the Greek city states who were perceived by Greeks as barbarians, and unenlightened peasants. They conquered Greece, and enslaved them. The ancient chroniclers clearly show a distinction between the two peoples despite Alexander and other members of the Macedonian royal court being great champions of Hellenic culture.
At this point in history, Greeks had the highest civilisation. They were pioneers in the natural sciences, philosophy, art, politics, literature and even athletics. Their language was already being spoken by aristocrats and nobles in many of the territories that Alexander had conquered. Their literary and philosophical masterpieces were being studied & appreciated by Greeks and non Greeks alike. Their pagan gods were worshiped by Romans, Copts, & other tribes throughout the Mediterranean basin.
An appreciation of one’s culture, or even adoption of one’s language in an administrative context, does not necessitate belonging to or being part of one’s tribe. Greeks had a very clear perception of who was and wasn’t part of their ethnos. Macedonians (all of them not just a royal bloodline) were clearly not.
This clear distinction between the two peoples was carried forth by the Romans who conquered them. The administrative regions of Greece and Macedonia existed as such because they reflected two different cultural, political, & linguistic realities.
“BUt tHEy wErenT sLAvs BRo”. Yea we know and no one is claiming they are. Over time, Macedonians had evolved. Slavic migrations into the Balkan Peninsula & their eventual assimilation into the Macedonian ethnos led to a gradual abandonment of Koine Greek by the natives. Slavic dialects had begun to dominate rural and urban centres. These people who eventually began speaking slavic dialects were not some brand new population who magically appeared out of the sky from Poland. They were Macedonian natives who just ended up speaking a different language.
This has literally happened to every single group of people today. Phoenicians (modern day Lebanese) speak Arabic, Copts speak Arabic, the French speak a Romance language as opposed to a Germanic one that their ancestors once spoke.
This whole idea that Macedonians today can claim no ties to the historical and cultural heritage of their forefathers because they now speak a Slavic language - you know … the literal people who come from and live on that land and can trace ties back to that land spanning centuries, but some random guy from Crete or Athens who’s people had absolutely nothing to do with the Macedonians, hated the Macedonians, speak a language that has nothing to do with the language of the ancient Macedonians, and never historically identified with the Macedonian marker can …. Is just laughable and a clear sign of pure Greek propaganda.
Propagand is no.1 goal on Radio "free"Europe
Good luck
We don't need EU, EU falls apart as Germany is having heavy economical issues. EU propaganda is going down, We need East and more East
East will not give shit about a fictional country with no ports.
That means Bulgaria...
Eastern Europe has been recovering from communism with the help of the EU, destroying it means destroying that rebuild program
Still would rather live in Germany than in Russia. At least German villages have toilets and laundry machines.
Long live independant macedonia
Long like Greek Macedonia 🇬🇷
@...................................... srb junk .
She must go to prison for disturbing the history .Just look at ancient Macedonian coins .They are all written in Greek ..
MACEDONIAN HISTORY 25 CENTURIES ! ! ! @ disturb.. your pampkin.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 first of all is pumpkin not pamkin .So you have to go to school all over from the beginning.Amf the second reason you must go to school is to learn that when the Greeks lived in ancient Macedonia,slavian races were not existed yet....
@@petrospanagiotidis3292 ok. .... disturb your pumpkin.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 ok disturb your teacher
@@petrospanagiotidis3292 your pumpkin. ... your stupid.
Μακεδονία 🇬🇷
M A K E D O N I J A and ONLY MAKEDONIJA ! ! !
Macedonia 🫶🏻🇬🇷☦️
❤️🔥 MAKEDONIA 🇲🇰☦️
@@IEthereaI MACEDONIA 🇬🇷☦️🤫
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sy 🇹🇷💪🏻
@@markomitiḱ4961 Nice to see that you admit your origins
@@Dinosaur315 I TATJANA AM MACEDONIAN .
your origin ? crocodile.
It's Macedonia 🇲🇰
Nah you are Vardarska
bugari ukrali Pirinska Makedonija. srbi ukrali Vardarska.
dogovor 1913 : Bulgaria na MAKEDONIJA vrak'a Pirinska Makedonija.
Srbija na MAKEDONIJA vrak'a Vardarska Makedonija .
North Macedonia kid !
MACEDONIA BELONG TO GREECE 🇬🇷
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sy what an oxymoron
Their deluded bubble will burst badly. They will only be remembered as a complete joke. Laughing stoke of the world
Bulgaria 🇧🇬
Oh, by the way, no such thing as "aegean macedonia" only Macedonia (I.E Macedonia proper) 🇬🇷
Aegean Macedonia or Belomorska Makedonija, was stolen 1913 by Yunanistan with Bucharest Treaty 😬
Speaking as a Greek I am supporting MACEDONIA 🇲🇰 ❤
So true. Every Greek supports Macedonia, Cyprus, Constantinople, North Epirus.
@@ioanniskoletis8300Ohhh my mistake. Support for
REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA 🇲🇰 ❤
@@mydogLevesD You can't support something fake
@@mydogLevesDhahahahaha you are a greek if only i am an astronaut
@@matthaiosvlachos3526 He is a North Macedonian troll who impersonates the profile "mydogsbutler". His job is to steal other people's profiles and write lies.
Dhaaaaugg woman
this is such stupid balkan beef bruh just let them choose their name
Stupid are ethnic engineering liars that ridiculously claimed them "Macedonians'. They are about as "Macedonian" as they are Athenians or Spartans... Zero.
Bro they have steal the land from Bulgarians and the history of greece, it is not just a stupid beef
Stupid and bigotted liars are those that distill the issue to just a name.
@@alextsitsi9934 grci i bugari lopovi. dogovor 1913 :
Grcija na MAKEDONIJA vrak'a Egejska Makedonija.
Bulgaria na MAKEDONIJA vrak'a Pirinska Makedonija ! ! !
@@alextsitsi9934 vo MAKEDONIJA MAKEDONCI ! ! !
bulgari ? u tvoj kenjef.
This is the correct direction, you would think once the name was changed and entry to NATO was confirmed but yet no NATO membership so the prespa agreement is void. Also it was a sham of an agreement where a quarem was not met, more then 50% of the population did not vote so there are many issues this president brings a bright light to the Macedonia people .
Congratulations Macedonia from Florida!
Macedonia belong to Greece ..it’s a fake nation 😁😉
Of Lelee, ….
40 per cento Albania.60 per cent Bulgaria
Ok, Albanians aside, but why are orthodox Slavs so freakin' keen on telling their neighbours that they are not what they feel they are, instead "we" know better. Get the h@ell over it and start cooperating and developing you pitiful nationalistic s@hitholes.
@@DamianP-n7bhahaha you are so funny, albanians are a joke..
@@gocedelcev86sad for Slavic Macedonians, but Albanians are going to become a majority in your country in near future.
@@DamianP-n7b who cares
@@gocedelcev86 Why do you speak Bulgarian language if you are not Bulgarian?
Law professor President who intentionally breaks the law. Any lower she can go? It's sad when the countries are run by a bunch of clowns.
Jedi zuto.............. u Belo More
Makedonija 24 veka
.............................................. @ leviz ..... clown.
@@levezd3722 RESPEKT FOR SILJANOVSKA ! ! !
@ leviz 5810 ukrao si moj e-mail tatjana velkova.
i uradio krivic'no delo.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 You can't be serious. First, this is not your email but a UA-cam profile. Second, you were warned about it because you don't know what you're doing and you attack MACEDONIAN PROFILES in your comments, if they can even be called that.
με το ονομα αυτο δεν επιτρεπετε να πατε ουτε για κατουρημα!
Cosplaydoians
MACEDONIA 🇲🇰 MACEDONIA 🇲🇰 MACEDONIA 🇲🇰 IS THE BEST CANTRY IN THE WORLD 🇲🇰 🌎 😅
''Cantry''
Yes lovely SLAVIC people!
MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES ARE MACEDONIANS ! ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Macedonia forever
@@tatjanavelkova5814 MACEDONIA BELONG TO GREECE 🇬🇷
Extremely based
Vewwy bathed, vewwy tru
thanl God for this
Bulgarian minority? I thought they were the majority 🤔
That minority is the ones who are aware that they are bulgarians 😂
@@Dinosaur315 There is no minority, I live here nobody knows about any vulgars.
But theres a lot of Makedonians 🇲🇰 in Bulgaristan🇧🇬 mostly in the part called Pirin Macedonia that you took 1913 🤫
@@Dinosaur315 MACEDONIANS ARE MACEDONIANS ! ! !
bulgari ? in _ _ _ .
Since it is not East Moldova, just Moldova, then it can also be Macedonia, not North Macedonia. Greeks are being insecure in this respect
Moldova does not claim to be an ancient empire and does not say that Vlad the Impaler was a Moldovan king. Also, many Moldovians speak Romanian and consider themselves to be Romanians.
@@Georgi.Delchev.Rebornthat’s not true. Macedonia is not north Macedonia,it’s Macedonia. The name will be changed. Glory to her,down with Bulgarians,Serbs,Albanians and Greeks
@@xyeB According to the United Nations the country's name is North Macedonia. Whether you like it or not.
@@xyeB POZDRAV ! ! ! Tatjana od MAKEDONIJA
@@xyeB Nice argument skopiano, why dont you back it up with a source?
1.000.000 300000 30000 8000 kalsanje davam stevo oedarov ne vi
Great now we have a female Biden.
That is the furthest thing from the truth she is right wing. Joe Biden is left-wing. If anything, she is more like Trump with her nationalistic ideologies and policies. I suggest you do some research and learn something
What do you mean
Ne daj boze.
0:27 why Bosnia?
She is great!
Ja iam 5po makedonski
Why are you guys so loud all the time ? and always feel like you need to defend your selfs 24/7 , Greece will need no more than 35-45 minutes to take over all your land , I think a better strategic move would be to stay quiet. Kisses from Athens !
Greece can kiss our ass
And how much you think it will take for Turkey and others to respond on such a mindless move? :)
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD Personally I think in this specific scenario they won't respond for multiple reasons. 1) It might cause a domino effect (Middle East). 2) Their economy will collapse which will lower their GDP per capita which now stands at (10,000$). 3) in case we decide to remove you from nato for breaking the prespa agreement which your county has signed , and then turkey decides to attack us they violate agreements and will get strong sanctions. Personally I don't support war and conflict on any form but that doesn't mean that your small leaders can say whatever they want.
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD Personally I believe there will be no respond and I’ll explain to you why. 1) It will cause a domino effect on Middle East. 2) Their GDP per capita is already very low (10.000$) and they can’t easily fund a massive war because their economy will struggle. So they have no benefit. 3) If we decide to kick you out of nato, they will also get big sanctions. I don’t support wars in any form but that doesn’t mean that your small leaders can say whatever they want and lets not forget that your country signed the prespa agreement.
@@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD Turkey who? I'm not supporting any take over on Skopje from Greece but... You really need to visit another country outside of your cage and learn history brother... I'm sorry for you...
macedonia is in Greece!
.............. you in.... carrot.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 fly to the clouds! if you don't believe the Greeks, you can study, from a third source and find out, that only..... you are not Macedonian! the whole world says it except you! you are unique! the only people in the world, who doesn't know who they are, speaks Bulgarian dialect and was non-existent, historically and politically, until 1945! of course you didn't even have an alphabet
STOP WITH FAKE NEWS! Macedonian president Siljanovska-Davkova won't use the illegal adjective "North", but only the lawfully correct name MACEDONIA!
Why does this grandmother speak Bulgarian?
Big win.
Man the woke left most be in meltdown mode hearing this stuff.
You ARE the woke left 🤣🤷♂️
@@CanadianForPutin You Canadians are the laughing stock of the world with you He / She leader
Former Yugoslavians are woke on steroids. I Identify as a Slav... I identify as a Serb... I identify as a Bulgarian... I identify as a Macedonian. Tomorrow, I identify as a Spartan. I Identify as an Athenian. I identify as a Martian I identify as a tomato.
Stop oppressing me. Feel sorry for me as I try to rob Greeks of their history and identity while promoting irredentism. Boo hoo for me.
*М А К Е Д О Н И Ј А*
🇲🇰 ☦️ 🌟 👑 🦁 🔆 ❤️🔥
🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢FYROM
😂 North Macedonia 🇲🇰 Macedonian empire and Alexander was Greece 🇬🇷 you little kid was Bulgarian .But Tito born new nacion in 1945
Macedonia is one and belong to Greece 🇬🇷 🇬🇷😉
@@stanbatakarata6081
Turkomongol bulgar tatar kid 🇧🇬 who come with Khan Asparukh Asia waiting for your return 👋
@@IEthereaI Clown 🤡 Bulgarians Are Indoiranian Scytian people Kid !Lern World history no Tito Yugo history 😉You Real Tatarian Mongols haves Tatar mosks Sinan Pasha and city Tatar Pazar 😉cry little Tatatomongolian baby 👶
I have a proposal, let's change the name from North Macedonia to West Bulgaria to end the dispute.
Every one will be happy 😊
MAKEDONIJA IN SOUTH EVROPA ! ! ! @ you... in black.
Ο Μέγας Αλέξανδρος ήταν «Μακεδόνας» 🇲🇰 και όχι Ελληνας
@@VerginhoGT Don't bother replying him. He is a North Macedonian troll who is using dozens of profiles.
These are his profiles - HeroManNickI32, Tatarsbuster, nikoivanovBG, NikosJanakis, thetatarsarewhattheyseemmo7705, thetatar3966, nasasendthetatarsintospace185. They are all created in 2020, 2021 and 2022.
His job is to write insults in Bulgarian and Greek language or lies that Bulgaria and Greece support the Macedonian cause and are Macedonian provinces.
Sure you are Greek. The very fact you pretend to be Greek and resort to conscious lying like this shows how you've lost the argument Skopian fraud..
@@mydogsbutler That's one of his alts. Another alt stole my name and he used to be 1132 and now he is I32. Also he changed Gotse.Delchev.Reborn to S with Z even though he thinks I'm that guy above. My last name is not Ivanov, despite there is a coincidence that we may have the same name.
@@Georgi.Delchev.Reborn Оня пак си върна името на Gotze. Но всъщност главният е themacedonian, който също му е от 2020.
@@HeroManNick132 The very fact he consciously lies like this shows the degree of fanaticism the former Yugoslavians have. One mistake both Bulgarian and Greek governments have made is not working together on this issue. Both countries should be supporting each others mutual positions in the dispute. You can call one guy crazy but when others start saying the same thing, the ones calling you crazy are exposed as the crazy ones.
Alexandre le grand a propager l’hellenisme pas le slavisme 😂😂😂
TSAR ALEXANDER IS MACEDONIAN. CHEERS ! !
@@tatjanavelkova5814 🤣🤣🤣
These people are the descendants of Alexander the Great's ancient kingdom.....
That one made me laught Most of them are descendants of people that used to self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians "Macedonians" (in the regional not ethnic sense) .
@@mydogsbutler you are so funny, you are complaining about a name while cities like saloniki and Athene are flooded with junkies and homeless people.. Also the country Greece what nothing has to do with makedonija is indepted for generations to the EU.. Maybe for ever.. The republic of makedonija can say no to the EU.. MAKEDONIJA WILL BE ALWAYS MAKEDONIJA
@@gocedelcev86 Naming Bulgarian language "Macedonian" was quite lame. Why do you try so hard to create a fictional identity? Let it go.
@@gocedelcev86
Your country isnt' even Alexander;s home;and you dluded fool. You fanatics have even confused modern place names with ancient. During the time of Alexander Skopje was the homeland of the ancient Paeonians.
@@gocedelcev86 "MAKEDONIJA WILL BE ALWAYS MAKEDONIJA"
If you want to violate the agreement, no problem champ. I never supported it because I knew fanatics like you would ignore.
No EU. Request for ejection from NATO. block borders with Skopje. Work with Serbs, Bulgarians and Albanian to expose the lying and ultra nationalism going on in Skopje to the entire world.
.
Get back under your mothers wings of Serbia 🇷🇸🇲🇰
Same dna, same history, same people. Together we can achieve many things. You know that only with your Serbian people you always have been free and happy. Everyone else will try to conquer or destroy you.
Take them please..or they will have nightmares soon 🇬🇷☦️
@@IEthereaI wake up albano-Slav 🇲🇰 Macedonia is one and belong to Greece 🇬🇷
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sy
Not true we don't intermingle with them.
But you are made from albanians.
@@IEthereaI learn your history…you are Bulgarian.. 🇧🇬 your heroes are Bulgarian 🤷♂️
@@MacedonGreek-lf9sy
*No we are Macedonians.* 🇲🇰
Bulgaris have turkic language not Slavonic. You guys have khans Asparukh, Kuber, Kubrat, Krum, Omurtag 🇲🇳🇧🇬
We have King Marko, King Samoil, King Filip, King Aleksandar Great, Saints Kiril and Metodij, Saints Kliment and Naum Ohridski everything best 👌 👍 😍
If someone asks me what I am i say macedonian not north or south or east just macedonian
If north is such a huge problem just call yourself vardarskan. More historically accurate
@@Dinosaur315 IN MAKEDONIJA --- MACEDONIANS.
vardaskan ??
But deep down you know you are a Bulgarian 😂😂😂
@@allstarlord9110 M A C E D O N I A N S 25 CENTURIES ! ! !
IN M A K E D O N I J A 25 CENTURIES M A C E D O N I A N S ! ! !
We don’t need the EU, long live Russia
She hasn’t learned one thing from the 1990’s wars in the Balkans. Milosevic would be proud of her, just to meet the same ending.
@ srb. Milos'evic' umro pre 10 godine.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 in this platform most people write in English, Bulgarian is a good language, but most people do not speak it.
@@rudolfohisena5701 M A K E D O N C I govorat Makedonski jazik ! ! !
srb @.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 macedonski, bulgarski same thing.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 there is no such a thing as Makedonski, it’s Bulgarski. The language you speak is Bulgarski, like it or not.
This piece of land (it is not a country) should be called "north OF Macedonia" not North Macedonia. They are slavs, Bulgarians, turks, albanians and gypsies. Another good name that probably fits them is Republic of Monkeydonia.
MAKEDONIJA 25 CENTURIES. Monkeydonia ? @ you -- pig.
...................................... Monkeydonia ? @ you -- pig.
....................... Monkeydonia ?? @ you -- pig.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Μακεδονία γη Ελληνική 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
M A K E D O N I J A IS ALWAYS M A K E D O N I J A ! ! ! !
Only way RNM may enter EU is as part of Bulgaria. No other chance.
Said the tatar khan asparukh 🇧🇬
@@IEthereaI In your second largest city Kumanovo (named after the Central Asian Turkic tribe Kumans) we can see the largest mosque in North Macedonia - Tatar Sinan 👍🕌🇲🇰🇦🇱🇹🇷
@@Georgi.Delchev.Reborn
*Kumanovo Makedonsko!!!*
Aleksandar Makedonski 🇲🇰 👑 🇲🇰
@@Georgi.Delchev.Reborn
☦️✝️☦️
@@IEthereaI I love Kumanovo, very nice turco-albanian muslim city
Time to grab the popcorn 🍿
Shut up
You Greeks you know Alexander the great was macedonian stop the lies please
Ofc we know that he was macedonian, I mean he was from Macedonia, like how we know that Leonidas was from Sparta. Don't worry, we've got you 😂😂😂
@@Dinosaur315 ALEXANDER IS MACEDONIAN ! ! !
.... don't worry.
@@tatjanavelkova5814 Alexandofski of makedonski his father was philpofski and his horse was bucephelofski 😂
FYROMIANS are 🤡
"Ευχαριστώ τοις Θεοίς ότι εγεννήθην Έλλην" (I thank the gods for being born Greek)
- Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander. Based on the book of Ptolemeus I Soter, Alexander’s friend
PELLA -- PANONIA 25 CENTURIES MACEDONIAN LAND.
PHILIP and ALEXANDER are born in M A K E D O N I J A ! !
I must admit. I've only thought of North Macedonia about 2 to 3 times in my entire life.
And lost 2.06 of your full life to watch the video 😂
I TATJANA LIVE IN MAKEDONIJA ! ! ! @ jon..... c c.
Its not North Macedonia it’s Skopia
SKOPJE TOWN IN MAKEDONIJA. you... hampti--dampti.
Macedonia is greek
@@ΓιαννηςΜουτος MAKEDONIJA IS MAKEDONIJA ! ! !
you... clown @.