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people ALWAYS say this, yet every time i'm out somewhere nice i see guys in black suits/blazers that look awesome
I have to respectfully disagree with the title. I really dig a nice black suit and white dress shirt combination. However, I really do agree that people should definitely go with either a navy or grey suit as their first suit.
Black suits matter.lol. Just had to say it lol.
Hahaha
3 years later... BLM...
All suits matter.
@@billysinge8977 not really. Black is universal. Do you own a white, purple or orange suit? Exactly.
@@Rashaadthegr8 My white suit is built in
On ties: They're either 100% perfect on the first attempt, or on the 17th attempt. There is no in-between.
EDIT: Holy f*ck, those light brown shoes are slammin'!
Johnny Cash made it work.
Classic Black ....... never goes out of style ........ can wear any color shirt or tie with it ..... dress it up ...... dress it down ....... Black is best suit to start with ..... simple !!
I dont agree bcoz black suit with white shirt, black shoes & a solid Maroon tie looks so killer in a business environment!!!! Black is actually not that limited...people nowadays r just afraid of wearing black in daytime!
I'd say more people are too comfortable wearing it in the wrong environments, as opposed to too many people being afraid of it.
Unless you are at a funeral.....Black Suit with White shirt = Car Driver, Waiter.... DO NOT DO IT! You don't look good in a "business" environment.. you look ill informed. In Business environment Navy/Charcoal is by far the way to go. You can't wear brown or burgundy shoes with Black suit, but you can with Navy/Charcoal. You won't be mistaken as a waiter wearing a Navy suit, but be prepared to take orders wearing that Black suit.
Exactly...
Dang bro. that blue trench coat would make a nice camp fire.
XD
Pale skinned, red carrot tops do not carry a black suit well. That is why black suits and black shoes are more popular among Latinos and Chinese.
Agreed. Skin tones play a huge role in how good it does or doesn't look.
And it still looks bad unless it's a funeral.
@@michaelbell3952 it depends on how you style it
I didn't choose a black fabric even when I had my dinner jacket and formal trousers made. I went with a midnight blue Zegna Trofeo which, in artificial light or photographs, appears "blacker than black." It's all about how the fabric absorbs or reflects light. For weddings (evening), I like a dark navy suit or charcoal gray suit with a white shirt and "wedding tie" - something silvery looks great. Maybe a sliver grenadine or tiny woven macclesfield. Black suits are for mafioso and funeral directors.
Love the comment Kevin. You accomplished what most men want with black but did it in a more unique, albeit still subtle way. That's how you inject some taste and personal preference into your style without going overboard.
you're definitely right, but I just love traditional black suits.
There’s no such thing, black suits would generally have been frowned upon until the 1980’s.
@@billysinge8977 Not true. Black suits became unfashionable in the twentieth century but here in the UK it was the only appropriate colour to wear at funerals, Masonic events etc. To wear blue or grey to a funeral was frowned upon in the early 20th century. Victorian mourning customs carried on beyond the 1800s
If you get one black suit, one navy suit, one grey suit, one brown suit and one tan suit along with two white shirts, two cream shirts and two powder blue shirts, you will also need one pair of black shoes, one pair of white shoes and one pair of lite brown shoes you can make 74 combinations that will always match and look really good, you can't go wrong 👍🏆.
Navy , grey and charcoal !
Agreed!
You can never go wrong with black. You just got to be creative when you want to dress down.
Cream with a pink shirt is the way to go.
Black suits rule!!!
A lot of people in the comment section misunderstood the point of the video i.e. go with more versatile colors instead of getting a black suit since a black suit will be more restrictive in terms of wearing it and how it matches with your clothes.
In my opinion black is absolutely the least versatile. Since it's super formal, you are limited to black shoes, black tie, white dress shirt. Can't dress down the look with black like with navy blue. Dress it up with black shoes, dress down with brown, and shirt and tie combinations are almost limitless with navy
I'm going to buy a black suit tomorrow.
Tanner I just clicked on your video to listen to the intro music. Its awesome!!!!
Black suit with black dress shirt, no tie. Pair it with a maroon pocket square and oxblood derbies. Looks amazing.
Depends on where you live in Japan for example black is the standard color for business suits not blue or grey.
Good observation. So much of this is based on both time and culture - once again proving that very few aspects of style are objective.
I’m in a similar position. In the U.K. black isn’t common in most settings apart from the law. Working in court a fair bit black and very dark grey are my go to options. Luckily we get to play around with mixing trousers or waistcoats in other colours.
I cannot speak for all Europe but in both Paris and Spain black is the standard business suit.
Jay for Drivers that is absolutely true. Sorry, No real business person wears black suits.
I love wear black suit with green nech tie :D
You sure you aren't mistaking them for very dark charcoal gray?
Tanner, I always enjoy your videos and I certainly appreciate blue as a base suit for starting out however overwhelming I prefer a well tailored black wool suit. I find it very flexible and it also shows confidence or even gravitas wearing something that stands out and yet it can morph into anything. White shirt and dressed up formal, but with printed shirts, stripes, paisley , checks, dark and loud solid coloured shirts it can be anything. And of course virtually every tie works. Black or burgundy shoes, chelsea boots. For me black suits always generates compliments the most from women. Back to black. Very chill. . PS Full disclosure, i am astrologically a rooster and in your archetype "rakish" . PPS Keep your chin tucked.
Definitely need to keep the chin tucked and we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm not a fan of black with any sort of pattern or color besides white in a shirt. Thankfully I'm also not a sartorial despot reigning with an iron fist.
Kind of sad to see that the camera focus isn't always right.
Aside from that, thank you for the video, I appreciated it.
Agreed. We make do without multi-thousand dollar cameras for now. Things will keep improving though!
signature combo is black blazer with charcoal grey trouser😅😂
Charcoal and navy suits, black balmoral captoe oxford, black leather briefcase, red and blue ties, simple white shirt, leather strap dress watch.
I love that you talk about archetypes and tribes. It make so much sense because there are general style rules and then there are style rule for each tribe. For cowboys a really long duster is okay because we are on horse back all day and need the extra cloth but, for a business man they probably shouldn't have something that goes past there knees.
I disagree, if you're only going to own 1 suit black is the most versatile. Wedding, funeral, job interview, date, and more. It's the only color that can do everything. Id say to get a black suit first (like a full set, vest, pants, and jacket), and then when you start buying more you can branch out. There are a million ways to style the pieces of a black suit.
Except there aren't. It limits the color of your leather, your shirts, and your ties. Black is formal, not versatile.
Andy Tryon Charcoal gray may be the color you're thinking of
Andy Tryon Navy is the best
yup, navy. i have charcoal and grey suits but now i only wear navy one. with navy suit you can wear ANY shirt (except for black, but why would you do that) same with the shoes.
definitely a charcoal is most versatile because it can be used with brown leather, red leather, black leather, and all color accessories besides grey scale
Couldn't agree more! Black is also such a boring color for a suit. Black is black: you don't have the variations you can choose between grey and even navy. Out of all of the colors you can choose for a suit, it's so horribly boring to pick black.
That's the big problem - it's one of the most limiting colors available.
Why not pair a black jacket with grey or even white pants? Use the black pants for another combination. A greay or navy jacket. Can be done!
I like a black suit just the same as I do a charcoal or navy suit. Burgundy and chocolate are two other suit colors I'd LOVE to own!
My complement monster suit is my least useful- a black double breasted suit from the early 90s. It was a hand me down from a friend who wore it to his first wedding. It is an event suit. I do not wear it for business.
Unless you are in finance...
I have 500 euro to spend on a suit, but don't have any clue as to where to go to get that classy, fitting, flawless suit I want. A tailored suit is more than 700 I heard. Should I just train myself to make suits? I've never spend more than 100 euro on one set of clothing, so it amazes me how expensive suits are and the limited options I have.
To explain that wind in that part of Utah. When there are tall buildings surrounding a somewhat small area then the wind will go around the building on the sides and not over the buildings, that only happens when the building is small. So Utah being located around the left center of the United States not only do you get winds from the normal south east, you also get wind from Canada and the Pacific Ocean. Cheers m8.
How about changing the tie color in a black suit? White shirt, red silk tie and the black suit looks very good in my humble opinion.
Yooo i dont know why but i love White suits
I got a black suit what are you gonna do about it
I find black to be pretty limiting as well.
You can basially only wear it with a white shirt and a very subtle dark tie(ideally grey or black). I've tried to wear my black waistcoat with a light blue shirt but it just doesn't look right. For some reason it looks very tacky to me once you introduce color to an outfit based on a black suit. That being said, I do love navy with black.
agree. I'd same the same for a casual wardrobe. Compared to brown black is extremely limiting.
Awesome video tanner! Interesting that you put a black shoe with navy pants. As a started working in menswear everyone openly bashed that combination so badly that my one pair of black shoes only got worn occasionally with grey. I'm still a little too timid to try and pull it off, but as i continue to mature, my style continues to grow...(i mean hey, 3 years ago i'd never wear a brown DB) Anyway, awesome awesome video! I remember telling my dad to get a new suit and taking him in to get a MTM where i work, and him wanting to go to black. But after talking to him, he settled on charcoal. Lots of guys get it wrong and need guidance, and it's good you put out such awesome content to help guide!
That black shoe only works with a true navy. As soon as you get into more vibrant shades of blue, black leather is really tough to pull off without looking bad. Glad to hear you're making some serious sartorial progress and helping your dad out too! Keep it up.
Nathan Price Yes, people can hate navy blue suit (dark blue) with black shoes. I saw one guy say it's faux pas or something, in their opinion. They look too much alike. But I disagree. However I use dark brown shoes with my navy suit
black is perfect for assassins
In India and Pakistan, black suit and tie mandatory for lawyers appearing before courts. I see a lot of diversity in what you can wear in black without having visible patterns such as pintsripe or check. I like charcoal more in that regard
Muhammad Umer Toor.... nothing wrong with wearing a black suit if it is part of a uniform or mandatory. Here in the States there are no written rules, but if you show up in a black suit for a business event you may be mistake for a server/waiter. Charcoal is safest, and Navy is most business like. It should be noted that if you are going to a FORMAL event such as a Black Tie or Funeral... Navy is definitely not the way to go.. and Black is Preferred.
You can wear a black suit just Mix it up with the tie pocket square and dress shirt
My dad was a preacher and the only suit he would wear was black and that's it. It's what he preferred and it was the only suit he owned. He never would try any other colors.
Preachers can wear black suits because it is appropriate for the profession. Just like it is for a server, waiter, and driver. It is also good for FORMAL events. Just not for Business. You don't look like a business man at all. You look like a pretender. Also don't match your pocket square with your tie...it should match your shirt not your tie.
Light grey and navy all the way 👍
I only have a black suit and i wear it about 12 times a year only because its uniform for band and choir concert at my school. but other than that i agree
Devon.. I salute you... You get it.
The only reason to wear a black suit is a job interview or a funeral
My guy, what are you talking about.
He thinks because he watched one supposed male fashion advice youtube channel that he knows all the "rules" or something, when in reality its just confidence that pull outfits together
Black suit + pale blue shirt + Burgundy tie = Perfection
Black suit + pale blue shirt + Grey/silver tie + Burgundy pocket square = Perfection
Black suit + white shirt + open collar (no tie) + any pocket square = Perfection
Black suit + white shirt + silver tie + white pocket square (TV fold) = Perfection
Black suit + black shirt + open collar (no tie) + black pocket square = Perfection
Do I need to keep going?
Black suits are meant for: black tie events, formal dinners, and funerals. Black suits are needed
No, a tux or dinner jacket is for black tie. A funeral is the only opportunity to wear a black suit and be correct, and even then, charcoal is just as good.
You have that unmistakeable quality: charisma. I really liked the blue coat on you though I agree about the length. But Tanner the beard has got to go, or at least be trimmed. By the way I detest those pinched-toe shoes-I always wear Gucci.
Worse than your black suit is the fact that you are NOT wearing a crew crew neck shirt. TACKY
A navy suit will often make you look like you are a lawyer or a banker, which is something only lawyers and bankers desire for. ;-)
Most other men don't buy a suit anymore to wear at an office. If I look at the few occasions about 80 to 90 pct of the men that are not a lawyer and not working in a corporate bank will still wear a suit, a black suit , if I was to buy one and only one suit, does it all.
Funeral? Black! Wedding? Black! Very fancy restaurant? Black! Prom? Black! Fantasy Fare? Men in Black!
So in this case, I would recomend a lot of man to start with a black suit, they will never need another suit anyway.
Charcoal, wedding, Great. Funeral, works. Business, great. Night out, great. Black is extremely formal. Like not even wedding formal, unless you are the one getting married, or working as the wait staff. Black is essentially White tie, black tie, or funeral only. And the casual person(non politician), is almost never likely going to anything that formal.
Utah wind, just hailed a few days ago.
We even had tornadoes last week. Never happens here.
So, don't get a black suit because of wind in Utah. Got it.
As much as I agree with the limited wearability of a black suit, there's just something about a great black suit that I find so appealing. I guess it kinda brings out your inner James Bond!
Bond is a good example. He's not a business man and he doesn't only own one suit. So black is a great, essential part of his wardrobe.
Mind you, he solely wears black suits at black tie events, not in any other occasions.
Good observation. He knows what he's doing.
Bond has only worn black at Funerals. Black is only for funerals or for undertakers or security personnel. Dinner suits should be midnight blue not back too by the way.
AronBagel.. Bond wears a black suit at FORMAL events.. as one should. Not in the Business world. Black Suits in the Business world is like wearing a Hawaiian Shirt at a Polo Event. No.
I wonder what Tom Ford would say about that comment ...
If you run in the same circles as Tom Ford, you should absolutely own a black suit (or four).
Tom Ford looks better than anything these fashion "advice" youtubers have, with these dandy and gentleman looks these guys are trying to wear make them look like Mormons LOL
came for curiosity... stayed for Ace Attorney music
It's not just formal wear for black suits in your commentary, however, the entire NY Orthodox Jewish community is built on very specifically tailored for all of them. Also, when people see us, we are NOT the wait staff of some restaurant employee, and definitely we are not Amish either... Otherwise, cool vids. Keep up the good work.
Black suits are for funerals, you should have one just for that .apart from funerals I don't wear black, but wouldn't feel right at a funeral in a non black suit .
Everyone should own a black suit. In case you need to go to a funeral in certain cultures. My black suit gets worn only to funerals. It's the only suit I own that is off-the-rack. Nightlife? Midnight blue. I guess it fills in as tux-replacement if you don't own black-tie wear.
I can't count the times I have had to explain this to men... and the all black look. So overdone on the red carpet. It just looks lazy. And these guys have stylists - no excuse.
I actually think I'm going to disagree with you on this one. A black suit or tux, without any attempt at getting crazy or outlandish, is exactly what I'd wear on a red carpet. I'd much rather have people paying attention to me than my clothes in that environment.
By "all black" I meant AAALLL black - black tux, black shirt, black tie, black pocket square, if you can even see it. Just not an interesting look to me. Perhaps in person if there was enough going on with a variety of textures it might work. In the photos and on TV you can't really tell.
Gotcha! Yeah I'm definitely not a fan of the completely black look - even with adding the textures.
This is not the video to watch if you plan on getting a suit for formal occasions like a wedding lol
Good video! You have great charisma.
I won’t be mistaken for a waiter lol in a black suit
i toured in Utah, you must be the nices dressed man there. no one was really trying in the looks dept
How long ago were you here? I've been pleasantly surprised by how much it's changed over the last five years.
i was there back in july of 2011. thats great that men are putting more effort. i was there for a few nights so who knows what i missed
Like your videos man, they are very informative. But Please invest in a better lens/camera. Because I have a hard time to really see color and textures
We're getting there. The camera and lens are decent, I'm just not as good behind them as I should be yet.
Please post a video on how to tie the perfect Windsor Tie Knot the first time 👍
Yep.. Classic. Black suit, not great. Funny thing is my navy blue suit Looks black when in poor lighting conditions. It's just that dark shade of blue. In sunlight etc it radiates blue a little but dark, almost black.
good video but holy unfocused
what would you wear to a funeral?
Black suit. If you dont own one dark grey or dark navy. Black tie. White dress Shirt with barrel cuff and pointed, wide spread or tab collar. Black oxfords or maybe black chelsea boots. Black wayfair sunglasses. Depending on climate black or dark grey overcoat and black scarf. Black leather gloves. Silver tiebar. White straight pocket square.
What do you think about that?
Mr.Crazy nicely done
Junior Dos Thanks mate :D
At this point, I'd wear black - but just because I have enough need to own one for other events. A deep charcoal is plenty appropriate for a funeral but also more wearable in the business world.
Perfect
I often have heard not to start with black, but what about taking a black suit and using bold color "dress" shirts, like pinks, and silver to add variety? I use quotes because I recently heard that dress by definition had to be a light blue or white. Anything else is casual? Well, how is this this different than a navy or gray suit with the intention of often using white or blue shirts?
It creates a stronger contrast and often looks more like you're attending a prom than actually dressing casually. A super formal color like black and then a super casual look like a brightly colored shirt are just too far apart from each other.
Do you think it has the same effect at a casual occasion if you where you only wear a bold shirt and a black vest, or should vests also try to avoid black as well?
Vests are even harder to pull off well as a casual piece as they're derived from an even more formal three-piece ensemble. If you were to do a black vest out of a cloth with some serious texture, you might be able to pull it off.
Awesome job with the tie dimple Tanner love that little detail, speaking of ties what is your favourite knot? I myself am partial to the Nicky, Cheers.
P.S. just discovered your channel today keep up the good work, love it.
Black, charcoal shirt, red tie?
As always, a great video!
A small question (shown in the video too), what is your opinion on combining light brown shoes with dark colored trousers or even suits. May I wear tan shoes with a navy blue suit or charcoal grey suit? And to take it further, may I wear dark blue or dark green chinos with light tan dress shoes? Is this kind of contrast desired or even acceptable? Thanks!!
I agree with hieuwey - the darker the fabric color, the tougher it is to pair with light shoes. I believe the main reason a deep navy works better than a charcoal is because of different tones - warm vs cool, etc.
My black suit, bought them as a fashion thing and end up using them for funerals.
thanks!
You're welcome!
I wish you could give me a suit
too late lol
oh never mind it’s for my graduation so it’s fine
Any suggestion for those who MUST have a black suit for their job? (Specifically, Clergy) Is there anything we must be aware of when buying a black suit?
When Buying a Black suit, just make sure it is made of WOOL, and most importantly that it FITS. If it doesn't fit get the suit altered/tailored to fit. There is nothing wrong with wearing a BLACK suit when it is part of a uniform or a profession that requires it (i.e clergy, driver, server..etc.)
Where in Utah?
what about all black. coat pants shirt tie shoes? does that look to formal I think it looks cool
Personally I don't like it. It really doesn't look good, it looks like you couldn't think up anything else. Tired of seeing it on the red carpet. These men have stylists so there's really no excuse. Plus all the black just blends together and you can't distinguish tie from shirt from jacket....
So I've got a job fair at my college next week. Wear my black suit or a far more casual dark green blazer?
What's the industry? How do they fit compared to each other?
Tanner Guzy They both fit well. I am a history major interested in museums and there will be one or two tables that are really relevant to what I am studying.
Hmmmm that's tough. In this case, you're probably better off leaning towards the black. I would imagine the "museum tribe" is fairly conservative and will appreciate a look that leans more towards formal than casual.
Utah!
What about black sport blazers? Do you like'em?
I don't. But that's my own personal preference. I have friends who have effectively incorporated them into their own styles, but I doubt I'll ever own one.
Really limited pants options with a black jacket. I wore mine with glen plaid slacks. Shirt and tie options are limited as well.
make a video abouy your beard i'm growing one
It's already planned for next month!
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