Sweet setup! Been on over a year hiatus from flying but all of my rigs are of course Apex/Kiss/Fetec/TBS... you know, the right stuff... so I will have the need now to get back in as part of my journey and need to get re-informed as to what new rigs I will need. So of course I came here looking for good info and you never disappoint Steele! Thanks for your consistency! Can't wait to get building and flying again!
hi, thanks for sharing yuor pids I converted one of my betaflight quads an ApexDC to fettec (just the FC) and it flies marvelous... no hot motors and very consistent!!
Man I really appreciate you doing this for us! I hope there is a plan to release similar pids/configuration for your analog freestyle quad, which I like ver much and fly exclusively and will continue to fly till the last CCD sensor available on this planet.
I planned to do exactly the same with VTX. HDzero for freestyle. And O3 for exploring and cinematics. You just need money and space in your bag for a second pair of goggles. 😊
Dude thank you for this video a lot of us been waiting for your perspective on a video like this we all value your insights and teaching in this hobby man so thank you :)
Steel is an amazing flying God and it's cool to hear some of his secrets. AWESOME VIDEO. He's not a Luddite. He likes what works best for him and isn't a crusader.
Hi Steele, Any thoughts on the 45A Fettec esc vs the new 65A? Do you think the 45A is adequate for 6S freestyle and some occasional flights with a GoPro Hero?
There is a difference i have both but cant see any reason to use more money for the same job it's like there are more punch and response in the 45a and the 65 is more flat/dead ❤
Any reason you went with 50V caps instead of 35V (what most people do I think?). I've gone back and forth and haven't found the 50V to be better but maybe you've found something I never noticed. Happy to see a technical quad breakdown vid from you again 😄
I have this frame, really nice frame, except there was no room for the CAP, so I had to remote mount it. Where in the hell did you put your cap or did you just not put one on?
i have question. installed dji o3 on my kiss ultra v1. and didn't get battery osd. always in zero, i put bec on it and nothing works, tried pads and port . still no battery voltage in osd. is there any option to get osd ?
I didn't think freestyle could be so fast and aggressive with the O3 unit (but that is also because you use DJI Goggles V2 and not Goggles 2?). I actually wanted to run HDzero and O3 in parallel. Maybe I'll buy the O3 first and compare it with analogue. If the latency is too negative for me, I'll buy HDzero too...
are you missing the vertical fov with the 03 unit and v2 gogs? is it worth getting the 03 units? or is it worth hanging in there with old vistas as long as i can?
What’s the exact fettec ESC settings. I always get caught up in the FW for the FC pids/rates etc. but never ask the ESC settings both fettec and non. TIA.
I just built a Mr Steele Apex EVO and it flys fantastic but for some reason I can’t get turtle mode or the buzzer to work. Any ideas? Yes the radio switches are setup correctly and yes they show up as working on the KISS GUI. Thanks
So is that soft where a flight controller or is it something you add to Existing flight controller always injoy watching you fly man keep them props spinning
Hey Steele coming from BFLT, i have the parts for my first Fettec build here. Would you recommend me trying first Kiss or go directly with Alpha? Cheers
I haven't bothered much with my other betaflight freestyle quads since building an AOS5 with that T-Motor G4 fettec firmware fc with matching 60A dshot2400 esc. It just flies a lot more predictable and I find myself banging into less things even with a 60fps polar camera. I might actually get the new AOS motors for this build. Yum. EDIT: surprised you haven't slapped the CNC gimbals in that mambo yet, theyr'e gold in the tango 2.
I just flashed the esc from kiss to alpha and now when I arm the drone and give a little bit of throttle the drone takes off like a bayblade. Any idea what's wrong?
Ramp up sorry and yes I got it working it's a lot different on the new ethix mambo remote but yes I found the original one and got it working again thanks
For real though. You ever stop to think about how a comment like that makes the poster feel? You ever made videos and had people tell you are not good anymore? Maybe people are going through something or have reasons for doing what they do.
@@MrSteeleFPV oh hi Mr. Steele. Sorry if that made you sad. It wasn't intended that way. But we fell in love with FPV because of your videos. We've flown over 3,000 hours and the past 2 years because we were inspired by you (countless Apex arms and 2206 motors destroyed trying to fly like you). Now we are some of the fastest multi-GP pilots in our chapter. And love freestyle as well. Hope you and your life are well. If you ever get back to flying and posting daily, then you will have a daily captive audience over here. We have another fairly big channel as well that we don't post to anymore because of personal things, so we get it. We long to see you rip balls again, if that's the desire of your heart. Peace, love and blessings to the steele balls himself
I was able to get a decent tune on the old gyro. But the new gyro seemed to be more sensitive to different builds. So with the help of Brian we got it dialed You can use these numbers as a baseline for a 5” build. Should be good 👍🏼
It’s no harder to tune than anything. It’s just new and different and when any firmware was new and different it was considered “hard”. My first stab at it, it felt completely foreign. The new Apex tune posted here should be a great starting point for virtually any 5inch. And now people have the option to really fine tune it with PIDtoolbox if they wanna go that route. It’s great that Felix opened it up this way. Now we can see exactly what’s going on and the possibilities are limitless. It’s great firmware and with the apex HD it’s at the top of its game
@@PIDtoolboxon this tune what is the esc sigbtype? It's says 0 in the dump file which is s2m+ow...is this correct and what the hell is that? Lol thanks
Felix (the creator of KISS) left kiss and created a different company no tied to the distributer “flyduino” And his new company is Fettec. And they were still linked for a few years but now Fettec alpha is the Fettec specific FC firmware. I have always flown Felix’s gear. He’s the OG mastermind
@@blutonic yeh im not sure if KISS was still around .. so i was wondering if @MrSteelefpv was using something new that is like KISS or is KISS manufacturing under a new name or what.. ?:) .. only he can tell us!
@@MrSteeleFPV exactly thats what i was thinking cos you always flew kiss and encouraged everyone to do so .. i have flown many kiss rigs over the years.. on your recommendation .. and always had good experinece with them .. thanks for the update !
Throwing that heavier girl around like nobody's business 😂Nice! An option for a toilet tank top plate configuration for the Apex spare parts list would be more than good. Hint hint wink wink✌️😁
And now everyone will start turning to Fettec Alpha and using your settings. At least in my country almost everyone was flying KISS and using your settings to fly like you. Our facebook group for used parts will be full of post for sales 😂😂
@MrSteeleFPV lol no dude. I'm nearly half way to 96 already! Still love the FPV Though. Yeah been watching your channal for years! Good to see you back.
Man took a break from building Porsches
Thanks for the shout out Steele! Looks like it's flying real good. Hopefully Felix adds some more control over rates :-)
🤞
Thanks Brian ! ! First time Alpha felt right 👍
Sweet setup! Been on over a year hiatus from flying but all of my rigs are of course Apex/Kiss/Fetec/TBS... you know, the right stuff... so I will have the need now to get back in as part of my journey and need to get re-informed as to what new rigs I will need. So of course I came here looking for good info and you never disappoint Steele! Thanks for your consistency! Can't wait to get building and flying again!
Thank you so much Sir Steele....I think the whole world was waiting on this video.....now we can move forward with our build....yu a beast boy!!!
We really would love to see some analog freestyle again soon😢 even digital freestyle…
But love your work❤ and keep it up.🎉🎉😊
I just built the exact setup and used your tune and rates. Flys amazingly at six thousand above sea level with the candy canes ❤
Finally! Nice! I also switched to Fettec Alpha last week and am now happy with my PIDs. I'll still try your PIDs. I'm very excited!
hi, thanks for sharing yuor pids I converted one of my betaflight quads an ApexDC to fettec (just the FC) and it flies marvelous... no hot motors and very consistent!!
Ok now I’m finally ready to try an Apex with Fettec. Thanks for sharing your setup Steele🎉
Man Mr Steele, that's a good setup! It flies smooth and controllable. A really good job! Thank you for that. 👍
Been waiting for this 🙏 alpha is the shit, but tuning is a different story..can’t wait to test those settings. Thanks!
Such a good timing for me. Thanks man.
Man I really appreciate you doing this for us! I hope there is a plan to release similar pids/configuration for your analog freestyle quad, which I like ver much and fly exclusively and will continue to fly till the last CCD sensor available on this planet.
Ewwww. Ancient tech dude. Like flying through a dirty screen door on a foggy day
I planned to do exactly the same with VTX. HDzero for freestyle. And O3 for exploring and cinematics.
You just need money and space in your bag for a second pair of goggles. 😊
This is my first FETec I've ever bought on the itsFPV ERA frame i just built it and i can't wait to try it out.
Dude thank you for this video a lot of us been waiting for your perspective on a video like this we all value your insights and teaching in this hobby man so thank you :)
You said it and you did it. Thank you 💪
Thank you so much Steele! Your a BEAST! Cheers!
Tidy build and look forward to ripping the tune m8.
Thanks to you both..🤘🏼😎
Mr Steele when are you going to show us your latest analog build?
I like that frame too but I dont like how the top part of the frame is curved and so battery straps don't sit evenly, do you have a solution??
11:00 prop deflection… is that normal/bad and a thing to worry about?
Steel is an amazing flying God and it's cool to hear some of his secrets. AWESOME VIDEO. He's not a Luddite. He likes what works best for him and isn't a crusader.
💙💙💙 love the videos as always, always love going back and rewatching videos just because every video is always gonna be great from steele💙
Just one question, you say you have polarized antenna, should they be at right angles to each other?
Hi Steele, Any thoughts on the 45A Fettec esc vs the new 65A? Do you think the 45A is adequate for 6S freestyle and some occasional flights with a GoPro Hero?
There is a difference i have both but cant see any reason to use more money for the same job it's like there are more punch and response in the 45a and the 65 is more flat/dead ❤
What are your pids on the digital builds without the gopro?:)
Any reason you went with 50V caps instead of 35V (what most people do I think?). I've gone back and forth and haven't found the 50V to be better but maybe you've found something I never noticed. Happy to see a technical quad breakdown vid from you again 😄
I like alternating straps. Seems logical for me that this is a superior mount compared to 2 straps in same direction...
Is the capacitor and the spike absorber soldered to the battery pads for your XT60 lead? How are they wired together?
Do you have a link to the 3D mount? Perfect perfect mount.
Steele you live my dream life! Keep on inspiring homie!
I have this frame, really nice frame, except there was no room for the CAP, so I had to remote mount it. Where in the hell did you put your cap or did you just not put one on?
i have question. installed dji o3 on my kiss ultra v1. and didn't get battery osd. always in zero, i put bec on it and nothing works, tried pads and port . still no battery voltage in osd. is there any option to get osd ?
Have you stuck with the double antenna? And did you go to an 11mini?
The holy Grail of pids finally 😮💨
What a wonderful crazy flight!
Yo steele i love your content been watching since the rotor riot days I just had a quick question what are your GoPro settings for cinematic flight?
No matter how many times I watch you fly, it's just fuq'n awesome...
what setup are you using for antennas on the O3????!!!!????
Do you soft mount the O3 or just mount it?
Does the ALPHA support throttle idle same as into KISS ? Thanks
I too fought with alpha fw. Very interesting indeed
This DJI action cam seems to be great for light build.
I didn't think freestyle could be so fast and aggressive with the O3 unit (but that is also because you use DJI Goggles V2 and not Goggles 2?). I actually wanted to run HDzero and O3 in parallel. Maybe I'll buy the O3 first and compare it with analogue. If the latency is too negative for me, I'll buy HDzero too...
Latency is only in your mind. Once you get the feel for 03’s you won’t feel it anymore
are you missing the vertical fov with the 03 unit and v2 gogs? is it worth getting the 03 units? or is it worth hanging in there with old vistas as long as i can?
Thanks! Great content!
Thank you again for this it's helped so much
What’s the exact fettec ESC settings. I always get caught up in the FW for the FC pids/rates etc. but never ask the ESC settings both fettec and non. TIA.
I just built a Mr Steele Apex EVO and it flys fantastic but for some reason I can’t get turtle mode or the buzzer to work. Any ideas?
Yes the radio switches are setup correctly and yes they show up as working on the KISS GUI.
Thanks
So is that soft where a flight controller or is it something you add to Existing flight controller always injoy watching you fly man keep them props spinning
I'm convinced you could throw a Wii-mote FC on the quad and still rip balls. Glad to see it bro, cheers 🍻
Hey Steele coming from BFLT, i have the parts for my first Fettec build here. Would you recommend me trying first Kiss or go directly with Alpha?
Cheers
Straight to alpha unless you have a solid pid and rate path for your build
I haven't bothered much with my other betaflight freestyle quads since building an AOS5 with that T-Motor G4 fettec firmware fc with matching 60A dshot2400 esc. It just flies a lot more predictable and I find myself banging into less things even with a 60fps polar camera. I might actually get the new AOS motors for this build. Yum. EDIT: surprised you haven't slapped the CNC gimbals in that mambo yet, theyr'e gold in the tango 2.
Sick bruh 🙌
I just flashed the esc from kiss to alpha and now when I arm the drone and give a little bit of throttle the drone takes off like a bayblade. Any idea what's wrong?
Maybe your pids are too sensitive?!
Do you even fly bro?
gym, tan, flyduino.
Thanks for this video.
Can I try the same pids on my lighter apex evo setup of 650g ?
Hey sir are you still running idle up and dshot2400 ?
On alpha I just arm like a normal peasant now lol. I’m not sure if dshot2400 is a thing on alpha. There’s no option as far as I know
@@MrSteeleFPV I love it. Keep up the content
Insane quad!! very impressive!!
Hey man wheres all the OG apex frames at ?
Love the "voice" you use when quoting other peeps....cracks me up.
#teamfailsafe
LETS GOOOOO MR STEELE POSTED NEW RATES
PS: I still have the signed shades from 2018 :D
you like apha over ultra?
Is there a way to pre arm like you did in the kiss v2
I remember there being a way but I haven’t messed with it much
@@MrSteeleFPV thanks
Ramp up sorry and yes I got it working it's a lot different on the new ethix mambo remote but yes I found the original one and got it working again thanks
Guys is it lame I STILL fly only analogue? lol Im glad your still at it Mr Steve
Where to buy your thumbs?😀
@Mr Steele any chance you can share stl file for this antenna mount?
No remote ID? :p
i think your mic is trippin or my end is idk only done it on your vid sounds like 2 mics to close
how much are your cam degres
Roughly 15-20
Thank you for Sharing,...... Bro,....!!Good Luck Always.......!!!🙏
Nice transition bru
My drones gone forever on a mountain. I have a clean slate to start with for the first time.
How do you black box it?
Awesome Video
You have a beautiful home.
Ethix crossfire mambo soon?
🔥🔥🔥 bro!❤
Can i fly it?😂😂😂
0:26 damn
Mr Steele for Prez
Hdzero freestyle build next
Bro started talking bout geometry at the end. Who knew ESCs communicate in polygons
Trapezoidal communication homus
@@MrSteeleFPV Sinesoidal Conversation Hummus
Now is analog turn
I remember when Mr. Steele used to be a good pilot, making interesting videos. Those were the days
Me too he sucks now
For real though. You ever stop to think about how a comment like that makes the poster feel? You ever made videos and had people tell you are not good anymore? Maybe people are going through something or have reasons for doing what they do.
@@MrSteeleFPV oh hi Mr. Steele. Sorry if that made you sad. It wasn't intended that way. But we fell in love with FPV because of your videos. We've flown over 3,000 hours and the past 2 years because we were inspired by you (countless Apex arms and 2206 motors destroyed trying to fly like you). Now we are some of the fastest multi-GP pilots in our chapter. And love freestyle as well. Hope you and your life are well. If you ever get back to flying and posting daily, then you will have a daily captive audience over here. We have another fairly big channel as well that we don't post to anymore because of personal things, so we get it. We long to see you rip balls again, if that's the desire of your heart. Peace, love and blessings to the steele balls himself
@@theringoffire3228You got a mouse in your pocket?
Why on earth did Fettec invent a new Rate method? Don't we have enough of them?
Nutty....birds flying like a 5"....oh wait I fly wings...what do I know😂😂😂😂
Man 3d printer files would be nice.
How did you connect the o3 air unit the the fc? i cant figure it out.
geniooo !!!
OMG😱😱😱
Is there a reason why alpha is so hard to tune? If Steele couldn't tune it, then how does anyone else have a chance of getting a decent tune?
I was able to get a decent tune on the old gyro. But the new gyro seemed to be more sensitive to different builds. So with the help of Brian we got it dialed You can use these numbers as a baseline for a 5” build. Should be good 👍🏼
It’s no harder to tune than anything. It’s just new and different and when any firmware was new and different it was considered “hard”. My first stab at it, it felt completely foreign. The new Apex tune posted here should be a great starting point for virtually any 5inch. And now people have the option to really fine tune it with PIDtoolbox if they wanna go that route. It’s great that Felix opened it up this way. Now we can see exactly what’s going on and the possibilities are limitless. It’s great firmware and with the apex HD it’s at the top of its game
@@PIDtoolboxon this tune what is the esc sigbtype? It's says 0 in the dump file which is s2m+ow...is this correct and what the hell is that? Lol thanks
is FETTEC ALPHA the new kiss?
This is what I'm wondering as well because I was just convinced to try building a KISS quad.
Felix (the creator of KISS) left kiss and created a different company no tied to the distributer “flyduino” And his new company is Fettec. And they were still linked for a few years but now Fettec alpha is the Fettec specific FC firmware.
I have always flown Felix’s gear. He’s the OG mastermind
@@blutonic yeh im not sure if KISS was still around .. so i was wondering if @MrSteelefpv was using something new that is like KISS or is KISS manufacturing under a new name or what.. ?:) .. only he can tell us!
@@MrSteeleFPV exactly thats what i was thinking cos you always flew kiss and encouraged everyone to do so .. i have flown many kiss rigs over the years.. on your recommendation .. and always had good experinece with them .. thanks for the update !
I thought you was sponsored by KISS
when is the Crotchy coming out? Chesty is not the right one for me.
Throwing that heavier girl around like nobody's business 😂Nice!
An option for a toilet tank top plate configuration for the Apex spare parts list would be more than good.
Hint hint wink wink✌️😁
no more tracer?
You don't fly KISS??
And now everyone will start turning to Fettec Alpha and using your settings.
At least in my country almost everyone was flying KISS and using your settings to fly like you.
Our facebook group for used parts will be full of post for sales 😂😂
Dude you got old bro! Good to see you again though
Been flying for a decade bro 33 is young lol. You must be 18
@MrSteeleFPV lol no dude. I'm nearly half way to 96 already!
Still love the FPV Though.
Yeah been watching your channal for years!
Good to see you back.