HUSQVARNA FOREST AXE: Grinding the Bit To Chop Well, & Why Most Axes Don't

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  • Опубліковано 31 січ 2020
  • Profiling the Husqvarna 26" Multipurpose Forest Axe. Filing, & briefly why axes do and don't cut. What files to use for axes. And chopping some wood.
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  • @evangoodwin4698
    @evangoodwin4698 Рік тому +23

    “Never underestimate how bad an injury you can get doing that.” Personal experience on my part proves this. I was sharpening a machete with a file and the edge didn’t stop until it hit the bone in my thumb. Be safe ladies and gents

  • @brianpriest3638
    @brianpriest3638 4 роки тому +28

    Glad to see more axe content from you! I’m tired of the same old generic unboxing videos, where they hack at a half rotten sapling for 45 minutes and rave about how great their new found prize is. I have an old Kelly true temper that needs exactly what you’ve covered in this video. I believe I’ll give it a try.

  • @GabrielCsillaz
    @GabrielCsillaz 3 роки тому +86

    "I'm not going super deep" - 1 hour video xD

    • @William_Asston
      @William_Asston 2 роки тому +8

      One hour to cover a whole lot of science, philosophy, semantics, practical skills, tools, techniques, etc aint too bad. He didnt go very deep, but deeper than 5 min wranglerstar "file 'er then stone 'er" videos

    • @shahriaraghajani3486
      @shahriaraghajani3486 2 роки тому +4

      @@William_Asston, well said. One of these guys is the antidote to the other.

  • @armeddoomer6709
    @armeddoomer6709 Рік тому +2

    It's rare that agree with someone so much. I've done this exact thing to an old collins homestead axe I bought for like, $20 on on ebay. I think modifying ones tools to suit their preference is something completely lost on my generation and the newer generations, but I find that not only does it give one a tool they're very satisfied with, it gives one a since of satisfaction and person achievement as well as gaining knowledge, confidence and experience. very well done video. Thank you.

  •  18 днів тому

    Don't know if will see this comment. You are an inspiration. Because of your channel I have got from eBay 4 good old inexpensive axe heads: a boys axe, a flatter profile capenter hatchet, a double bit and a four pounder single bit.
    The double bit, axe boy and the four punder single bit all them need this same treatment because I live in the Caribbean (Puerto Rico, rural mountainous area) and don't need any wood splitting but rather good chopping tools.
    Thanks, you are really the best.

  • @ryanhughes2865
    @ryanhughes2865 4 роки тому +21

    The occasional chicken squawks in the background crack me up, I love it. It’s a strange but surprisingly welcome contrast to an otherwise detailed discussion.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +4

      It was just background this time, which is fun, though they can be pretty annoying at times.

    • @maydaverave
      @maydaverave 3 роки тому +1

      I kept looking around my house thinking a chicken had got inside.

  • @GiantPinhead
    @GiantPinhead Рік тому +3

    I rewatched this again last night, and I think it's one of the best and most useful videos you've made. Maybe not the most exciting, but thorough, well reasoned, and complete. My hat is off to you, as usual.

  • @allendeanhuscusson459
    @allendeanhuscusson459 2 роки тому +7

    So grateful that you are taking the time to teach this technique and the time to explain how and why!

  • @seantap1415
    @seantap1415 4 роки тому +51

    Respectively speaking or not depends on who you are...I laughed out loud.

  • @ScurvySander
    @ScurvySander 3 роки тому +8

    I've been using my hatchet and axe a bunch recently and I'm learning a ton from your axe videos!
    I also made a whet stone puck like you did and its getting a lot of use.
    Glad you enjoy teaching us on UA-cam how to maintain and improve our tools. I honestly thought files only existed to be baked into cakes to assist in jailbreaks!

  • @chuckthebull
    @chuckthebull 4 роки тому +2

    Your vids always make so much sense to me. Ben Scott is great too and very willing to give advice.
    I like both your clear rational calm approach to this subject. I'm just new to getting into axe work and never realized how much goes into it. It's fascinating and exciting for me to start working on my own axe acquisitions. cheers.

  • @JoeBob79569
    @JoeBob79569 4 роки тому +7

    It's not too often that I click like on a video after 10 seconds, but that beer comment pretty much impossible not to...

  • @microaggression3359
    @microaggression3359 4 роки тому +4

    That waterstone is a an absolute beast. I love them I also like a hard gator brand pocket stone for field repair. Not necessary but convenient.

  • @parallel4385
    @parallel4385 3 роки тому +1

    Great series. I took your advice on my boy's axe and removed a lot of material from the handle. What a difference. Now to get out the file and get it cutting better.

  • @joshuamoses1631
    @joshuamoses1631 4 роки тому +2

    I like your file technic. Makes sense to me, and like you, I dont worry about what people think. It's what works for me. Thanks for the great video.

  • @2STROKESTUFFING
    @2STROKESTUFFING 4 роки тому +10

    Love your videos! Woke up with a strong urge to work with and learn more about axes the other day, and stumbled upon your channel. Especially enjoy the amount of thought/reflection going on, it's refreshing. Btw, dragging on the backstroke makes it much easier to keep a consistent angle in my opinion.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +7

      Cool. I find it much easier to index with the file with the back drag.

  • @eaglescoutbushcraft6228
    @eaglescoutbushcraft6228 4 роки тому

    Happy to get on UA-cam today and see you have a new video. Thanks for passing on your knowledge, but sad to see the dreads were gone. Please keep making these very clarifying videos. Cheers!

  • @randystrand908
    @randystrand908 Рік тому

    "Axe Humidor!"😂🤣😆 ...LOVE YOUR VIDEOS! Thank you.

  • @blackdave2211
    @blackdave2211 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome, I‘ll be happy to tune in!

  • @oficinaz1483
    @oficinaz1483 Рік тому +1

    Obrigado por sua aula meu amigo. Minha machadinha estava com o corte quebrado (falha no corte) Olhando seu video eu consegui eliminar a falha no corte e deixá-la reta. Agora estou desbastando e posteriormente vou dar o toque final. Um abraço do Brasil.

  • @gerardb285
    @gerardb285 2 роки тому

    Great video! Your straightforward approach using basic tools for axe handle shaping and filing an edge on an axe bit are refreshing and very helpful. I followed your advice on lightly back dragging the file when sharpening the axe bit. This technique produced a nice flat grind on the edge with the file. It was night and day difference from the other edge that I had filed with no back dragging. Most importantly, this technique kept the file in the same position with a fluid motion. I refiled the other edge and now I can use the puck to remove the file marks. Then onto the leather strop. Thank you!

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  2 роки тому

      Awesome. It is a lot easier to keep a good index when back dragging vs lifting all the way up. You can learn to be pretty fast and accurate picking up, but it's definitely slower and more difficult to learn. Stay safe. That axe is going to cut like crazy. make sure it's cutting wood and not you :)

  • @ronmccarty7537
    @ronmccarty7537 11 місяців тому

    Dude! I winced when you moved that log with your leg!!! I used to chainsaw carve and do that more than I should have oh, I realize there is a fine line with the angle that you can use with your knee... try not to get in too much of a hurry bro.... I absolutely love your videos! You think things through and explain yourself very refreshing! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ADD EFFORT!!!

  • @dennisobrien3618
    @dennisobrien3618 4 роки тому +3

    I either never knew or had forgotten Owen's last name, but that young man can really use an axe. One of the most accurate, powerful, and efficient swings I've seen outside of timbersports competition. I discovered his channel (elemental4rce) through Ben Scott (who is quite an axe man himself) when you passed the administration of the Cordwood Challenge over to him. I always enjoy axe-related videos by competent and knowledgeable people.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +3

      yeah, those guys both show what happens when you actually chop a lot in the field.

  • @willcarmack1242
    @willcarmack1242 Рік тому

    Unfkn believable...information overload....SO glad I found your channel...Your knowledge and explanation cutz thru all of the other resources I have found...Saved me years of trail and error and kept me safe...Thanks again!!!...Much Respect from St Petersburg Florida

  • @W4ldgeist
    @W4ldgeist 3 роки тому +6

    Really interesting modifications. Your changes made the axe look a lot like the old (100+ years) axes I find in old houses or in old shops that are sold out after the old craftsman died here in Germany/Switzerland. Thin handles, front thinned etc.
    I bet those old hand tools are better for the job, because people using them back then had to use them 100% of the time. Every optimization would've helped their whole day of work and therefore most craftsmen would've adopted a more optimal way to shape and make a tool. There would be more experimentation and fiddling of individual craftsmen, because it would give them an edge over the competition.

  • @billmccaffrey1977
    @billmccaffrey1977 4 роки тому +6

    If you're going to drink a beer, you should offer to share. Thanks for the axe tips.

  • @larshandberg5917
    @larshandberg5917 4 роки тому +1

    Just bought that excact axe yesterday. Now i know how to modify it, and make it chop. Thanks.

  • @anserafers8088
    @anserafers8088 4 роки тому

    Real glad you continued THIS axe series ✅✅ quality content mate 👌

  • @j.t.patton7820
    @j.t.patton7820 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks Man...I learned a lot there. Your words mean so much more seeing you actually do the things ;)

  • @sethpatchell8404
    @sethpatchell8404 4 роки тому

    Love the long video my friend! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us and spreading the obsession!

  • @michaelstyles4678
    @michaelstyles4678 2 роки тому

    I've noticed this with Corporals Corner as well that you and him both CARE about what people write in the comments when it's negative feedback/immature feedback. Don't give power to those people by acknowledging them, they just haven't grown up and learned to have a mature discussion rather than a heated arguement. Keep up the great videos man!

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  2 роки тому +1

      Easier said than done sometimes lol.

  • @customcutter100
    @customcutter100 3 роки тому

    Excellent video! Used to sharpen the axe and machetes on the survey crew. It took me almost a week and my lunch hour to every day to take the cheeks off of a splitting axe to make a good cutting axe. Got good at putting a shaving edge on them by draw filing with a large bastard file, and stropping on my work boot.

  • @mrpanda39
    @mrpanda39 4 роки тому +44

    Nothing wrong with drinking beer mate. Here in Australia people drink all day 😂

    • @simonbedenbender3087
      @simonbedenbender3087 4 роки тому +5

      mrpanda39 distant German giggle:)

    • @sidstone8845
      @sidstone8845 4 роки тому +1

      In Maine, babies drink beer instead of milk

    • @dermotmcgreevy5220
      @dermotmcgreevy5220 3 роки тому

      @@simonbedenbender3087 distant Irish giggles

    • @juls7724
      @juls7724 3 роки тому

      ....you can try with a glass if wine...it's fine 😁. My granny used to pour wine on my soda when i was just a kid (8 years old). "It make you made blood" she always says

  • @ironwoods5751
    @ironwoods5751 4 роки тому +27

    I was literally excited for this video.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому

      awesome :)

    • @BOOSTEDLASER
      @BOOSTEDLASER 4 роки тому

      @@SkillCult Well I tried this. You made this look WAAAAAAAAAAY easier and faster than it really is. At least as a first timer.The stone is AMAZING !!!!! Talk about this thing more.
      It seems I have NEVER EVER used a proper edged axe. I did final sharpen with a Work sharp at 20 DEG..If its chippy or rolley,next time I will 25 DEG it
      My cheeks came super puffy and WAY uneven.

  • @fbwestwest
    @fbwestwest 4 роки тому +4

    I'm really looking forward to the video about edge profiles and shapes. I enjoy the way you explain things.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +2

      Well, I hope I get it done, but it's really mostly an expanded and more explained version of this. Most of the important stuff is here or can be extrapolated at least.

  • @themadleaf
    @themadleaf 3 роки тому

    I have the same axe and reworked the edge pretty much the way you did. 👍🍻
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @mvblitzyo
    @mvblitzyo 4 роки тому +1

    Watching this video, is like sitting around a campfire .. listening to a really good story at the edge of my seat! in amazement thank you so much.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +2

      Maybe I should have a chalkboard in firelight next time :)

  • @liamr6672
    @liamr6672 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, many axe videos on UA-cam but not many have actually shown such an important lesson.

  • @bartcornelius7717
    @bartcornelius7717 4 роки тому +1

    I have the same axe. I like your sensible approach to axe manship.

  • @BabakPA
    @BabakPA 4 роки тому

    Very informative and exciting, Thanks Steven.

  • @fractalofgod6324
    @fractalofgod6324 3 роки тому

    Just got myself one of these axes... Super helpful video. Thank you.

  • @mtnsprayer14
    @mtnsprayer14 4 роки тому

    Nice work on this video 👌 thanks for the time and effort all this took!

  • @davidbarclay3651
    @davidbarclay3651 4 роки тому

    You are a good teacher. I did the same to mine. I chuckled with every decision you spoke of. I watched your video on the Counsel Tool Boys Axe, which I also share and became a student. Thanks Stephen. I still pray for you and the Lime. Do not say that you "have", in reality you are "battling". Having is owning, and we don't want to own that crap. Bless you.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому

      I rarely use the term lyme even. I just use it for convenience so I don't have to explain.

    • @davidbarclay3651
      @davidbarclay3651 4 роки тому

      Got it. I still have been pray for a miracle for you.

  • @bk-pk4wv
    @bk-pk4wv Рік тому

    Great video. Detailed. Easy to understand, and a charming host. Good job.

  • @bcubed72
    @bcubed72 4 роки тому +2

    That intro just earned you a subscriber!

  • @TheJonsberg
    @TheJonsberg 4 роки тому

    Good video 👍 Picked up a few more tricks from you.
    Blessings

  • @tidge879
    @tidge879 4 роки тому +1

    Your comment about how using machines makes you only consider how fast you can get it done rather than take the process a step at a time really struck a chord with me!

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +1

      So true for me. I have to be careful to realign my attitude when using aggressive power tools.

  • @richkeagy8907
    @richkeagy8907 2 роки тому

    Work is a blessing.

  • @ThisAutomaton
    @ThisAutomaton 4 роки тому

    Excellent recording of the sharpening process, clear and crisp.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому

      I was kind of hoping the bevels would show a little better, but looks pretty good.

  • @swnorcraft7971
    @swnorcraft7971 4 місяці тому

    I recall filing a hand axe a few years ago. I remember thinking that the cheek area was too thick and filed it down some....not even knowing what I was doing. I felt a little self conscious or self doubting about what I had done. I retrospect, I see that I was right in my line of thinking about that axe. Now I want to dig it out and rehash it's capabilities and re assess what I did to it at that time. I trust most of what I have gleaned from your channel. Love your work. Thanks for the long tutorial on how and why the re-profile of this axe...........Be well.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 місяці тому

      It can be a little intimidating to file them down. I mean you can't put it back. Probably one reason that most don't file them down enough. it helps a lot to have some reference and info.

  • @Sawdak
    @Sawdak 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this video!
    Very informative to me.

  • @enzowilson345
    @enzowilson345 3 роки тому

    Just got the hultafors version of this, so useful info, thanks!

  • @fredflintstone6163
    @fredflintstone6163 Рік тому +1

    Thanks I often have people want to know what I have learned in fifty years in a few minutes you do well 🙂

  • @jamessiberrysaunders402
    @jamessiberrysaunders402 3 роки тому

    Great video and great explanation, thank you!

  • @broadusthompson1666
    @broadusthompson1666 4 роки тому +5

    I like that you mentioned the safety risk of filing towards a sharp ish edges. I absolutely despise golf ball file handles for that exact reason, even if you aren’t working on a blade you often have a sharp burr and that golf ball handle will put your fingers right in between a sharp edge and a hard place, where as with a traditional file handle you’ll hit the ferule before your finger in most cases. I’ve heard responses along the lines of “what kind of an idiot pushes so hard filing you slip?”, drives me right up the wall...

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I've seen the golf ball, it looks pretty cool in some regards maybe, but never tried it. That is definitely an issue though. Filing axes is also why I don't use the full length of my file as much as I could. It's often clumsy, the poll is in the way and I tend to not file as close to the handle as I'm constantly aware of getting my hand to close to the edge. The guards are a good idea. As to pushing so hard you slip, unless the file is new, you often have to push hard enough so that it doesn't slip. i don't know about you, but to me a file should be pushed on hard enough to get an even, skid free cut if possible and not harder. Unfortunately, as a file wears, that requires more pressure. Files just slip, especially filing something clumsy like an axe. Some might say, get a new file, to which I would say, no. :)

  • @wyliegibson319
    @wyliegibson319 2 роки тому

    Really good info, applies to hatchets also. Thank you.

  • @rettif9
    @rettif9 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the youtube videos. As a novice I can say they have been helpful. Your series on the Husqvarna axe is spot on as far as the one I purchased. The reason I'm writing is to ask a specific question about the Sager chemical double bitted axe. specifically I'm asking about the pattern that most closely resembles the USFS "Western or Pennsylvania" pattern which is what I own. In other places I found mention of the fact that this head is asymmetrical. It was also mentioned that Warren Axe sales people went to logging camps to market directly to the loggers. A compelling argument that professional loggers saw value in the asymmetrical design. Supposedly each edge was designed for a different purpose. I've read more than one idea about how each shape lends itself to a particular purpose. One interesting thought was that the thinner face was for cutting while the slightly more obtuse opposite face was intended to clear chips from the cut. Your thoughts on the topic would be of interest.

  • @jonathanschearer7778
    @jonathanschearer7778 3 роки тому

    Excellent information, I rebuts have axes with my son and you have changed a number of things we do.

  • @T3hJones
    @T3hJones 21 день тому

    Love the video like always! Theres an old joke in Sweden that goes something like "My father was very poor but oh boy did his files glide easy" :D

  • @mr.zardoz3344
    @mr.zardoz3344 4 роки тому +1

    Everytime i watch a video of yours, I learn. Thank you.

  • @travissawatzky5205
    @travissawatzky5205 10 місяців тому

    Your files are in better condition than mine and they still work fine

  • @Tom_Bee_
    @Tom_Bee_ 4 роки тому

    First time I've seen one of your videos and I just had to subscribe. Theory and practice clearly explained. Excellent, info rich production. Thanks for sharing.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому

      Thanks Tom, and welcome :)

  • @Joe___R
    @Joe___R 4 роки тому +6

    The reason that a file will dull faster if dragged backwards is that it can cause the very tip of the teeth to get bent over or break since they have less strength in that direction. As long as you let off most of the pressure on the back stroke it shouldn't have any noticeable effect on the life of the file.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +1

      That seems to make some sort of sense logically, but I'll believe it when I can see it happen. If you have any interesting reference material on that, I'd be curious to see it. thanks for commenting.

  • @TheAnonymousSword
    @TheAnonymousSword 4 роки тому +1

    An Axe is a tool to be used. First axe I ever bought was a Gransfors, that was a few years ago when they weren't as expensive. It since has seen a lot of use, had to sand down the handle tremendously and also changed the geometry to something similar that you have there. Sometimes you spend money on something that looks beautiful but isn't actually practical out of the box. Now my axe looks like it has been used, with lots of layers of linseed oil on the handle and I would say that I'd rather have this displayed at my wall, than the original unused one. Cool video!

  • @Trickydickysticky
    @Trickydickysticky 3 роки тому

    Love this video.
    I love the focus on axe safety, its not easily seen in a youtube video by an untrained eye. But there is actually quite a bit of thought put into it. I wish everyone respected their tools like this, it would lead to fewer injuries. These things really are dangerous.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, it is easy to see someone experienced swinging an axe miss almost all the reading and moving and compensation that is going on to avoid accidents.

    • @Trickydickysticky
      @Trickydickysticky 3 роки тому

      @@SkillCult Yes I would say it is deceptively simple. Will send this video to friends. Thanks.

  • @Abbbb225
    @Abbbb225 4 роки тому

    Appreciate the video. These are things I have thought about quite a bit.

  • @jeffreydustin5303
    @jeffreydustin5303 3 роки тому

    I learned a lot about filing. Great job!

  • @OEF_Vet_0331
    @OEF_Vet_0331 3 роки тому +1

    Hey man, this video was awesome. Thank you for your knowledge sir

  • @beznosn
    @beznosn 4 роки тому

    Bought that axe after watching your videos, you really got me interested

  • @CaptCanuck4444
    @CaptCanuck4444 Рік тому

    Learned a lot from this series, thank you.

  • @richardminchin5415
    @richardminchin5415 4 роки тому

    Another outatanding video. Thank you once again for some no bs insight into axe workings.

  • @quintond.7888
    @quintond.7888 4 роки тому

    Thanks Steven. I have basically this same tool probably from the same factory with a different stamp on it. I never filed it quite as thoroughly, now I think I will :)

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому

      Yeah, give it shot and see what you think!

  • @N8urecure
    @N8urecure 4 роки тому

    I have this axe and I love it for what it is. I’ve seen different reviews with different specimens being a little hit or miss but mine is great. Interestingly the edge on mine is significantly less curved, more like the Gransfors style. The head was hung perfectly and the handle grain at an excellent, essentially perfect orientation and very tight, with attractive hues even. I did have to shave down the thickness of the handle of course. The edge on mine actually came pretty much good to go, but has been and will yet be better refined over time, along the lines of what is explained here. Good discussion and good work!!

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +1

      Mine came very rough, but they may have changed it.

  • @mattweaver5196
    @mattweaver5196 2 роки тому

    This was an awesome video! Love it. Thx!!!

  • @BBQDad463
    @BBQDad463 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this very informative video. I do some of what you reveal. There is much more I will apply in the future.
    On oner thing I am certain we agree: A sharp axe (or any edged tool) is much more productive, much safer, and much easier and more pleasurable to use.
    Again, thanks for the video! ☺

  • @grandriver3152
    @grandriver3152 2 роки тому

    Back again to rewatch this top-notch educational video.👍🌲

  • @ernststravoblofeld
    @ernststravoblofeld 4 роки тому +18

    Back dragging hard just wears the teeth without cutting, so it's kind of a waste. Doing it lightly won't matter much. On very hard steel, it can bust teeth, but if it's that hard, you should be grinding anyway. On soft metals, back dragging helps clear the teeth some.

    • @simonfitrzyk3559
      @simonfitrzyk3559 3 роки тому +2

      Furthermore, when dragging back, the point of the teeth have no metal to support them against the oblique pressure exerted on them (while when push-filing, there’s the whole body of the tooth to support.) If done with enough force, the points would bent or break. Done lightly, the phenomenon occurs on a very small scale-but still a waste of sharpness, however small.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  3 роки тому +2

      Again, where is any evidence, or even specific personal comparative experience? I just see theory here and anyone can propagate that or dream it up. I've yet to find any test or reference to testing. I'm not saying, you're wrong, just even a scrap of anything besides hearsay and theory and widespread opion might bolster your position a little bit. find this guy if he's still alive and tell him he's doing it wrong. He looks like he doesn't , know what he's doing :) ua-cam.com/video/P5Kp0WEGawY/v-deo.html. A file is a consumable item and there is an efficiency issue with picking up the file every time, v.s. maintaining your index. That is largely why I chose to back drag. But I'm unconvinced it really matters. Convince me.

    • @ernststravoblofeld
      @ernststravoblofeld 3 роки тому +4

      @@SkillCult Sounds like a manly folk knowledge problem. You see manly folk knowledge in any area that's somewhat technical, but not too difficult, like basic auto repair, making beer, amateur woodworking. Amateur gunsmiths are the worst.
      Manly folk knowledge is basically a form of the old telephone game. Usually based in some real knowledge, it passes through generations until it comes unmoored from real life and sometimes becomes unrecognizable. It often referrs to conditions of long past days, or specifics misapplied to the general. There's usually an element of just-so story, where someone in the chain of transmission had way too much time to think up their own brand of "well that's probably how it works," and added it to the mix.
      Highschool shop teachers can be a source of particularly mystifying manly folk knowledge.
      Manly folk knowledge ranges from benign to annoying as fuck, to oddly helpful. Sometimes, the application of much headscratching, pondering and field archeology methods, can extract actual historical real knowledge from the manly folk knowledge, but most often it's a wash.
      The purveyor of manly folk knowledge is a curious creature, identifiable by a self-satisfied look and usually an embarrassingly bad haircut. When their manly folk knowledge is questioned, they become agitated, and make a sound much like a sealion. It is best not to engage.
      Anyway, we live in a world of cheap files. It might be different if we had to anneal it, pound it flat and recut them. If you want real old-school file knowledge, look for Paul Hasluck's book Metalworking, from a hundred or so years ago. Reprints are easy to find.

    • @simonfitrzyk3559
      @simonfitrzyk3559 3 роки тому +2

      @@SkillCult What I have stated logically flows from my notions of matter and physics; to me, it’s common sense. I have no scientific evidence to offer; I have not run an experiment to convince myself; never felt the need for either. You can have experience convince you, rather than me try to: Take two identical files in identical condition, and file two identically-shaped areas of the same material with equal pressure; lifting one file on the return movement, not the other (although removing the pressure;) and see if there is an appreciable difference in sharpness after x dozen/hundred strokes, and if that difference is compensated by the accuracy allowed by no lifting the file. I’d be interested in the results, although not so much as to run the experiment myself, not having yet encountered a case where lifting the file made it untowardly err from the index, while “common sense” prevents me from drag filing.
      And thanks for the link to the interesting video.

  • @johnleahu9503
    @johnleahu9503 Рік тому

    Great job mister! Keep it up!!

  • @michaelsinclair8279
    @michaelsinclair8279 4 роки тому

    Finally get a day off to watch this!
    Thank you Sensei.

  • @spitNsawdust
    @spitNsawdust Рік тому

    That really chimed with me, thanks ✌️😊

  • @curtisjohnson944
    @curtisjohnson944 4 роки тому

    I had to jump to the cutting part of the video to see if your axe cut better than mine. It did. So I watched the whole video and learned something, which is what I use the internet for. Thank you for the education.
    The only time I chop trees down is for Christmas , otherwise I use my Stihl, but it will certainly make that job more fun.

  • @lorenray9479
    @lorenray9479 2 роки тому +1

    Like your form! My 30 year old files need to be replaced. My new tools are sub par. I reshape most all or just make my own!

  • @wyattbreymeyer4033
    @wyattbreymeyer4033 4 роки тому

    whats even cooler about this video is it shows basic sharpening period, axe, knife, as a person who sharpens tools on the reg its nice to see someone explain it to people who may not know any of the terminology

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому

      I have a couple of videos where I talk about sharpening. My main goal is usually to present what I think are fundamental truths or foundational understanding and also, what will go wrong and why sharpening or shaping might fail. It's a deep rabbit hole, that I've never really gone down and don't want to. I'd like to create the accessible version. Not to be confused with the dummy version...

  • @beavercreekwoodcraft8134
    @beavercreekwoodcraft8134 4 роки тому +8

    Having a more closed hang or having the heel behind the toe like you showed, will give the axe a shearing action without the potential safety issues of having a very rounded edge profile.

    • @ajaxtelamonian5134
      @ajaxtelamonian5134 2 роки тому

      Yep I have the Rinaldi American Boys axe and that's really good for that reason among others.

  • @MP_Single_Coil
    @MP_Single_Coil 2 роки тому

    The echo down the valley of your chopping was wonderful.

  • @shahriariran44
    @shahriariran44 4 роки тому

    Good work.

  • @alphanumeric1529
    @alphanumeric1529 3 роки тому +1

    I can 2nd, or 20th the recommendation on that Bahco farmer's file. Very aggressive, teeth hold up well relative to the steel they remove. Buy it!

  • @pclarin
    @pclarin 3 роки тому

    You're a bad, bad man. After watching this video I spent an entire day filling on my axes, hatchets and even my lawn mower blade. Made me miss half of the 24 hours of LeMans car race. 😂😂😂. Thanks for the tips and demonstration. Didn't cut myself either. Thanks again.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  3 роки тому

      Ha ha, sorry. You need a TV in the shop :)

  • @z1z2z3z
    @z1z2z3z 4 роки тому +1

    This old Tony has a great video about files. Back dragging is fine, especially if your trying to maintain an exact angle.

    • @dutch1995
      @dutch1995 3 роки тому

      Do you know what the video is called?

  • @jarredjones3358
    @jarredjones3358 4 роки тому +1

    I have the same king waterstone, I bought it partially for my fine woodworking tools but also to make a puck after seeing your videos. The puck works great on axes and I'm very pleased but the stone wears disappointingly fast on harder tools, especially the coarse side. Even with my cheap chisels, half an hour of sharpening means about half an hour of flattening afterwards. Like I said, I got it to make a puck and for $15 the puck works great. I'd definitely recommend it for axes and such.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +1

      I dont' own any except the King brand, but my sense is that all japanese waterstones wear pretty fast. You're right though, they do go quick. I usually use a brick for the rough flattening, and maybe finish with a diamond plate. I probably should get the pecial flattening stone.

  • @mattnorris529
    @mattnorris529 3 роки тому

    Opening statement was amazing. I’m subscribing right now!

  • @user-fw7mi1nn1e
    @user-fw7mi1nn1e 27 днів тому

    مرحبا كيف حالك ستيفن متابعك من بلاد عربيه تحديداً العراق السليمانية شمال العراق تعلمت منك الكثير أحسنت تحياتي ايها الذكي القوي النشط 🙋💪🍒🥀

  • @mytech6779
    @mytech6779 4 роки тому +1

    Fun trivia time. While only an issue if mixing two brands of stone, Japanese grit size ratings do not directly convert to US grit sizing. (eg 2000 japanese wetstone is roughly 1200 US sandpaper or wheel, and p2500/f800 euro. But the size-range tolerances and size steps don't have any easy conversion factor, charts are needed.) The grit bond is as important as the grit its self.
    Files facts: they of course come in single cut or double cut, double does a better job of breaking chips but single leaves a better edge when sharpening to a knife edge.(like saw teeth)
    Within a file size and shape, say 12 inch flat(mill is a thinner less stiff flat), you can get the teeth in fine, second and bastard. Originally they were made in fine, second, and coarse but coarse was too large of a step so they created something between not quite second or coarse and people just referred to it as the bastard tooth.
    Files have been considered disposable items for centuries.
    Back dragging isn't an issue without pressure; it will mess up the tooth tips if you keep pressure on it, most people have files so old and worn that back dragging couldn't make them any worse, this info even appeared in old guide books published back before power grinders when files were purchased by the dozen and craftsmen noticed small differences.
    Filing off of the edge will leave a small feather that will need a touch with a stone but it will eliminate chatter and make a smoother finer edge. (more important in saw teeth) It will also eliminate the chance of getting cut from a slip.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому

      Iv'e had trouble finding any references about back dragging or not, looking in old machining books and stuff. . If you have any, besides the old nicholson handbook, I'd like to look them up.

  • @mdwdirect
    @mdwdirect 4 роки тому

    Yes! A real axe video!

  • @lurchie
    @lurchie 3 роки тому

    It's really satisfying to watch those big beautiful chips fly.

  • @BrookZerihun
    @BrookZerihun 4 роки тому +3

    always bring extra beer for future friends, will let this slide this time

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому

      Well, let me become more successful then I can buy a round for 20,000 people :D

  • @mikebingham7189
    @mikebingham7189 4 роки тому

    Funny, I just finished putting a new edge on a very old Craftsman hatchet given to me when I was about 10 in the early 1960's. This hatchet would bounce off wood and I never used it. After much trial and error and time I found the most effective method was what you are doing. Wow does it bite. Thanks for the instruction! You're right, once we agree on the language then we can communicate.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому

      That might be made by plumb. I think they were one of the companies that made axes for craftsman. The old plumb hatchets and axes are often extremely fat in the bit. A classic and sad example is the boyscout hatchets. My first hatchet was an estwing, which I quickly learned to hate. My second was a plumb boyscout hatchet that was so fat you couldn't do any real work with it except for splitting and I was like WTF? I've seen many of them since and never saw a single one that was ground well, or even close. We probably won't agree on the terminology, which is fine and I'm part of the problem since I avoid getting wrapped up in terminology. We just have to remember that we might not be interpreting things as they are meant and vice versa. The good part is if we take the opportunity, we can spend more time talking about how it all works instead of communicating in more abstract language.

  • @RedDawnAK74
    @RedDawnAK74 3 роки тому

    If i ever saw somebody who needed to be making axes it would be you. Great content ,I just picked up snow and nealley 24'' huson bay which sucked me in to this series of your videos. Glad it did im gonna watch your tanning fur vs leather next.

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  3 роки тому +1

      That could happen. Most new axes are designed to make money more than to move wood.

  • @kellydaniels8992
    @kellydaniels8992 3 роки тому +1

    Steven,
    Thanks for the tips on this Husqvarna Forest axe, I had one a few years and it will sharpen, the cut - something didn’t add up. You have once again put the
    Obi-Wan Kenobi effect on the forest light saber.
    I’ll use your suggestions wisely and test the results.
    Thanks again for the video,,,,
    God speed,,,

  • @scottlandmcc
    @scottlandmcc 4 роки тому

    Great video mister, thank you. Makes sense and going to give this a try on an old no name I got with a very thick bit. I'll buy ya a beer if ever out west!

    • @SkillCult
      @SkillCult  4 роки тому +1

      yeah, give it a shot. I like this approach as a test run, because you know exactly what you're getting with flat bevels If they are convex, much harder to have a measure of where you're at. but, like i said, this gives us a reference for sure of an axe that cuts deep, and we can mess about from there.